Jakarta

[Turgid]

Can't see any of us being able to travel in without there being a vaccine in place otherwise we are taking a huge risk. .............

There are many countries with a much less infection rate than the US so I don't see the risk. Vietnam has had 369 infections and no deaths and Cambodia has had 141 infections and no deaths from covid-19 so I don't see the risk for Americans, though being allowed entry into those countries is a completely different issue.

[Irish Mongrel]

The good news is the incentives are strong, many high tech pharmaceutical companies worldwide are racing to be first to develop a viable vaccine, and there are signs that progress is being made ie serious Human trials are now underway. The bad news is from testing to production to world wide distribution, it is going to take TIME. That's why I opted for an Airline refund over a reschedule or an account credit. I plan to book a bigger & better trip as soon as I get the vaccine; whenever that is. Probably not until the end of the 1st quarter 2021. But we shall see.

Can't see any of us being able to travel in without there being a vaccine in place otherwise we are taking a huge risk. I have multi-trip travel insurance, which currently covers me for COVID, but then at the minute I can't travel. Absolutley certain that when it comes to renewal COVID-19 will not be included in the cover. So I can either hope I catch it and recover (in a first world country) between now and borders re-open, I take the risk of catching it whilst travelling in the Big Durian (not really a good plan), or wait untill a vaccine is available. I can see it being at least another year before I step in Jakarta, unless I get sent there for work. So fingers are crossed for the work route, then I will have proper medical coverage.

[Marky1]

I plan to book a bigger & better trip as soon as I get the vaccine; whenever that is. Probably not until the end of the 1st quarter 2031. But we shall see.

That's more like it.

[Member #4698]

I am talking about 3 months from now. Not today. Flights are actually open now if you have a KITAS. They aren't allowing tourist visas yet.

Well all I know is that the trans Pacific portion of my United Airlines flight to Singapore was cancelled the other day. Since early June I knew this mid August scheduled departure was not going to happen. United's announcement just made it official.

On their website United gave me 3 choices: reschedule the flight for up to 5 months down the road, take a United account credit for the flight good for up to 2 years, or accept a full cc refund. I chose a full refund. So that's that. No trip for me and nothing scheduled until a vaccine is available. And today I cancelled all my hotel reservations and inter Asian flights. I am kind of blue now. It would have been a great trip. But I don't see any changes or improvement as far as international air travel is concerned in the next 6 months because it is going to take a vaccine break thru to change the current international status quo.

The good news is the incentives are strong, many high tech pharmaceutical companies worldwide are racing to be first to develop a viable vaccine, and there are signs that progress is being made ie serious Human trials are now underway. The bad news is from testing to production to world wide distribution, it is going to take TIME. That's why I opted for an Airline refund over a reschedule or an account credit. I plan to book a bigger & better trip as soon as I get the vaccine; whenever that is. Probably not until the end of the 1st quarter 2021. But we shall see.

[Smoothy]

even if you were able to get a flight over, which you won't, many hotels aren't operating right now and most tourist locations, even the beaches are closed. Restaurants aren't operating, neither are the bars and its going to be a pretty lonely holiday with nobody else around.

I am talking about 3 months from now. Not today. Flights are actually open now if you have a KITAS. They aren't allowing tourist visas yet.

[StephenK]

Want to bet?

Are we going to bet your tickets to indo?

America is gaining covid19 cases by 40 k per day, pretty much all other countries are starting to ramp up and increase in cases. The death rate is sort of at the same number each day, its just shifting numbers to different countries each month where its starting to significantly infect.

You must understand that flights don't take off either unless the intention is that there will be enough ticket sales to completely fill that plane or overbook it IE; sell more than what the plane can hold. One of the key problems is, not only does every country want to stem the spread of the virus, but people don't have the confidence to travel. That lack of confidence would result in poor ticket sales leading to the flights to be eventually cancelled anyways. I've said in a previous thread, even if you were able to get a flight over, which you won't, many hotels aren't operating right now and most tourist locations, even the beaches are closed. Restaurants aren't operating, neither are the bars and its going to be a pretty lonely holiday with nobody else around.

[Smoothy]

LOL October. You'll be waiting longer than that.

Want to bet?

[Marky1]

Maybe someone has some more updated information, but it looks like they won't allow any tourist visas until October. Seems a ridiculously long time to wait.

LOL October. You'll be waiting longer than that.

It's because of a global pandemic. Maybe you haven't heard.

[Blacka0]

Maybe someone has some more updated information, but it looks like they won't allow any tourist visas until October. Seems a ridiculously long time to wait.

It is indeed I can't wait to come to Indonesia again, on the other hand most places are closed now because of corona.

[Smoothy]

Maybe someone has some more updated information, but it looks like they won't allow any tourist visas until October. Seems a ridiculously long time to wait.

[Hilo77]

Honestly the idea of travelling here solely to pursue the hobby is absolutely daft. Unless you have definite leads set up and it's all assured there is no point. Even then you will pretty much be confined to your hotel as nothing else is open, that's if, as has been pointed out below, you even get into the country in the first place.

Give it a miss guys, write this place off for the next three months at least. Save your money at home watching p0 rn and check back in around September some time.

[StephenK]

I think for all the people who are asking, you may have the chance to travel to Jakarta and be allowed into Indonesia if you are a healthy person and can prove it, but I wouldn't do it based on the 2 reasons why:

1) depending on who is and isn't on duty for quarantine on the day, certain officers may clear you and others wouldn't depending on how much they like your paperwork. Indonesia has been real finnicky based on what is lawful and unlawful and most criteria with laws is never really set in stone. I would hate to pay good money to get on flights just to be turned around at the border. Or, to get there and they slap a 14 day quarantine on you like most countries do.

2) good luck getting flights! Getting international flights at the moment is notoriously hard, plus also expensive. International flights at the moment are for people trying to return home, not go on holiday- and I know plenty of people who have overseas businesses and they're completely screwed, half have gone under because of it.

[Thampi62]

So according to the chart, as a foreigner assuming one passes the rapid test, seems pretty reasonable that an international traveler can make it in. However, my only doubt is what do they mean by a "Health Certificate"? Does that mean that one has to take proof that they (passenger / traveler) passed a covid exam (negative result) X amount of time before the trip? Or does that mean you need a document or letter from your doctor as well?

Health Certificate. Hmmm. Anyone have more information about that? Would be much appreciated.

It is the present status of entry to the country. It is not comfortable to travel following this as a monger. I travel to Indo only after easing the entry. It will take few more months. I am waiting for it.

Regards.

[Koperen Klaas]

In case you weren't aware, Jakarta is the fastest sinking city in the world and expected to be underwater by 2050. Works out perfectly with the 30 year contract!

Bangkok is the other scary SEA city to invest in as it will be sitting below sea level by 2030!

This is true mostly to the north of Monas. Further south the settlement is much less. Go to Sarinah and you can get a good impression of the settlement there; Sarina has a pile foundation and does not settle. The surrounding pavement does.

[Koperen Klaas]

Just saw this post. I happened to be working in Jakarta during August / September 1992 when this particular McDonald's opened and stopped by during its first week, it was spotlessly clean and orderly even though there was a line outside the door. I remember chuckling because most Indonesian food is far superior (and healthier) than McDonald's food. Also remember going to a few birthday parties with my then-3 year old back in 2006.

Hey, Sarinah's has had a good run, even though I remember reading that it was sinking. Famously named after Sukarno's nanny (and allegedly his first sex experience).

If you mean "sinking" in the business sense, you may be right. I haven't been there for some time. In the physical sense it's unlikely, since Sarina was one of the first buildings with a pile foundation and doesn't subside. The surrounding pavement did not have a similar foundation, so over the last years a large height difference has developed between Sarina and the parking area. In the words of another member "you need a stepladder to get from the pavement to the first step of the stairs at the entrance".