Kyiv

[beorning]

hi kievman,

Im looking to make an extended visit to Ukraine this year. Can you provide info about apartment rental? Im looking for a reasonably priced place for a month or two. Also, do you know where I might find a detailed street map of Kiev? Im also looking for all the same info on Odessa. In fact, any info you could point me to in Ukraine besides the usual tourist traps would be helpful.

thanks

beorning

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by snail
from chris in the old unkraine archives

'Generally, a sence of jealous xenophobia does exist, always keep a low profile and avoid overcurious local men (this applies especially to black dudes, recently i saw a "gang" of 50 or 60 teenagers beating up a group of tourists in the middle of Kiev, simply 'cause they are black, and nobody...not even the cops did anything about it). '

caution is always prerequisite when traveling in the former soviet union.

Bullshit!
I live here, but never saw 50 teenagers together. Only with a teacher
Some time ago "skeanheads" attacked jewish church in Kiev. So cops and spetial forces didn't sleep two days, but catch them all! If something happens with citizen of US in the middle of Kiev, some police generals and colonels can have a really big troubles, and they know it.
But after football match Kiev can be a dangerous place (so why I hate this game). And not only for black people. But cops works ok, in any situation...

[Snail]

from chris in the old unkraine archives

'Generally, a sence of jealous xenophobia does exist, always keep a low profile and avoid overcurious local men (this applies especially to black dudes, recently i saw a "gang" of 50 or 60 teenagers beating up a group of tourists in the middle of Kiev, simply 'cause they are black, and nobody...not even the cops did anything about it). '

caution is always prerequisite when traveling in the former soviet union.

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by Rastaman
Kievman-- I am a Black American guy--would I have any problems if I were to visit Kiev or Odesa???

No, man..
Americans are still welcomed there, and not so much racists there. If only you don't sell drugs.

It's a many places in Kiev, where foreigners can feel safe and comfortable, and not expensive.

May be you got some problems with gals, so be prepared if some of them refused sex with you.
This is not rasism, just common xenofobia, cause we haven't much black people there, like in France, or Germany.

[Kiev Man]

So guys, finally somebody (like me) here from Kiev. You can ask me, I can provide help with Kiev, gals, or places. Hope you enjoy the capital of Ukraine!

[Merlin Magician]

Sinanjumaster,

As a son of Chiun, I recommend the tour at the Nuclear plant at Chernobyl. Just ask anybody who glows in the dark for directions.

[Sinanju Master]

Can anyone give a price quote (average) for an apartment in Kiev for say, a week? Also, when I'm not poon-hunting, what historical sites are there to see in Kiev? I was told it's the oldest city in "Russia".

[Admin]

In the FSU looking like you have money garnished with a western accent usually means you have money and that is a big plus when meeting women here.

Right, but as Pedro rightly said to overdo is as bad as dressing too low. Best is to look fashionable and refined, but not obsessed with it. That is why IMO intentionally wearing a suit in a club is ludicrous. We're not in the 90s anymore. Now a sex-weaned foreigner who dress like a "biznessman" solely with the intention to impress is rather a subject of mockery.