Ho Chi Minh City - Massage Parlors

[Talon]

I'm new to the Ho Chi Minh parlor scene, and made some rookie mistakes on my first session, but hopefully you can benefit from my errors.

I went to the Hot Toc at 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh on a Sunday at 5pm. You can't see much from the street, but inside were about 6-7 girls. One immediately took my arm and hustled me upstairs; I assumed the girls would shortly be presented in a lineup for my selection, like they would in a Thai MP, but that wasn't the case (mistake #1). I should have dallied in the lobby a bit and got a better look, and then made my choice, but oh well.

I was lead to what looks like a hospital gurney and the girl took off my shirt, then wiped down my left hand and chest. After a perfunctory and unmemorable massage she pulls down my pants, takes off her panties and bra, wipes off my tool and gets to work. Though she wasn't the prettiest girl her bbj skills were quite good, certainly better than any I had in Cambodia, so I wasn't exactly suffering. I CIM and that's the end of it. I tip her 100k, which she seems happy with.

After I get dressed I'm lead back to the lobby and this is where mistake #2 comes into play: I should have negotiated a price first. The mamasan asks for 500k and I laugh in her face. After some more minutes of arguing I get her down to 200k for the room. I should really only be paying 100k, and probably could have gotten it I spent more time arguing, but life is short.

Now that I have some experience under my belt I'll be frequenting more MPs in the next week, so stay tuned.

[Expatriot]

Expatriot, great find, thank you!

Any particular address you recommend? Also, how to do you get to choose the girls?

For all: I went to Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 today and there were closed for renovation, I suppose. I don't speak the language!

Just look for places with the frosted glass, when I go back I will get an address for you.

[Alex Sure]

Expatriot, great find, thank you!

Any particular address you recommend? Also, how to do you get to choose the girls?

For all: I went to Khai Hoan Blow 'and Go in District 7 today and there were closed for renovation, I suppose. I don't speak the language!

[Expatriot]

Must be one heck of a hair cut.

If you go upstairs it is a hell of a haircut, its worth the the trip out of Dist's 1, 2.3, 7, I know its Tan Binh but it is always guaranteed good time, with out the haggling

[Tim Em Xinh]

Hello, All,

There is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy.

Must be one heck of a hair cut.

[Expatriot]

Hello, All,

Since I live in Q, PN I thought I would share in what's in my part of town for mongering. A local friend of mine took me out by the airport in the Korean area of Tan Binh dist. On Bai Vi Street (use Diadiem. Com or google maps)

There are a number of Korean barber shops that offer full service for 620k (120 to the house. 500 to the girl). There are comfortable rooms upstairs with showers, and a decent bed, and yes they actually change the sheets. The price for all of these places is the same, and they tend not to service locals, because they think they are all Five-O. They never haggle over the price, and you pay after you are done. The girls working there were slim, don't really care about cup size since I have lived here, and very accomodating. I took a shower with my girl post coituos, and ended up popping again. Just look for anyplace with frosted glass, and there is always one guy getting a haircut, if you go back more than once its always the same guy. The fresh line up of girls comes in around 2pm, and it always seems to be the pick of the litter. If anyone needs anymore info just let me know.

[Disher]

Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.

I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a * fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.

I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff

Yeah, definitely not a good idea to start a fight there. I was in a similar situation there a few weeks back. XVNT has some nice lookers on the bikes but the service is really poor most of the time. You should really avoid those standing on the bridge or anywhere close to the bridge. Those are even worse than the bike girls and most of the time they are also users (be it out of free will or not.) Every time I asked one of those on the bridge they would ask me if I want to fuck them or want to do drugs with them. Should really avoid that bridge but if you feel lucky then go for the bike girls.

[Raverboy]

Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.

I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a * fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.

I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff

This shit happens more often than you think, especially to foreigners. Mind telling us where 'this place' is so we can avoid?

[K Brew]

Could you share with us your 'horrendous' experience? Was this a moto-girl FL or a SW standing on the bridge itself? By the way, its Xo Viet Nghe Tinh Street and Thi Nghe Bridge.

Oh man where to start? I went to this place found a half decent looking girl. I offered her $20 for FS and she covers hotel. Got there, paid her and then she said no full service bc "too big". So then I tell her BBBJ and she reaches for the condom. I had previously negotiated no condom for the BJ. I was with a friend and his girl spoke much better english so I knew she understood this. When she took off her clothes she had massively saggy skin, so I was incredibly turned off.

I offered her another $5 to let me take pics and I'm pretty sure she understood. But immediately after I gave her the money she told me to put the camera away and threw a ***** fit. I'm certain she understood me. Anyways she finally agreed to the BBBJ and it was terrible, at one point I pulled my cock out and tapped her face. She looked at me like I did the most heinous thing in the world. Put on her clothes and left.

I wanted to take my money out of her purse but didn't want to get in some fist fight with a vietnamese hooker and her pimp. Uff

[Wendella]

Your point is taken on my #2 and #3. One thing I'll say about hygiene is. Most of the BJ shops in Q10 for example are about the same level of cleanliness as the FS salons I mentioned in #1. I. E. A small knotch lower than the 'normal' hair wash salons one finds in Q1.

As for #1, an enterprising poster on another board (you know which one) made a list of ALL (!) the FS salons in that one little area. There are 20+ of these, each with 20+ girls. Based on pure statistics alone, I am sure the odds of finding a few Lookers out of 500 odd girls is not bad at all.

Ah ok. I know where you mean but not who. I don't keep up with that other forum these days. Or even this one really. Just drop in once in awhile. 20? I had no idea there were nearly that many.

I thought of another reason I still like the HBT bars: the girls dress up sexy. I dig that. And if things click, you get to roam your hands right there, and see how much the girl is willing to do right there in the bar, or let me do in the bar. I like that part.

[Raverboy]

...I could be wrong about #1 on your list, maybe I just wasn't lucky. But I haven't come across one shop up there that can match 91 or Bin Bin for sheer numbers of lookers. But if you know of one that can, please please send me a PM. ;-) For #2 or #3, no way on earth can the motorbike girls or BJ shops match the HBT bars in the looks dept. That goes back to the convenience issue: I don't want to drive around all night looking for one thats acceptable. I know if I walk into 91 I'm almost surely going to spot that immediately. If I go drive around motorbike spots, chances are much lower I'll spot what I like. Also, if you go to one motorbike spot (with 3 to 10 girls at once) and don't see what you like, then the next spot to check might be on the other side of the city. For the HBT bars (10-20 girls) , the next place might be next door (another 10-20) with a bunch more a short walk away. Also, in your #2 and #3 venues especially, hygiene is way lower. For #2 the STD / HIV risk would be way higher than anywhere else (they do way more customers, plus many of them inject). Anyway, I'm a foreigner who does go outside the D1 comfort zone. But I have to say a lot of the time it takes a lot of driving around for no results. And I always keep checking out D1 again. But your key point is totally correct: they're definitely much more expensive than the other venues, can't argue with that one. To get into the spots you mention, a guy has to be a bit adventurous, and also not too bothered by things that look a bit rough. It's not for everyone. So "comfort zone" regarding D1 bars is a good way of putting it.

Your point is taken on my #2 and #3. One thing I'll say about hygiene is. Most of the BJ shops in Q10 for example are about the same level of cleanliness as the FS salons I mentioned in #1. I. E. A small knotch lower than the 'normal' hair wash salons one finds in Q1.

As for #1, an enterprising poster on another board (you know which one) made a list of ALL (!) the FS salons in that one little area. There are 20+ of these, each with 20+ girls. Based on pure statistics alone, I am sure the odds of finding a few lookers out of 500 odd girls is not bad at all.

[Wendella]

That's what I said preceding my 1st statement:

OK, just that you said "tourists / non-residents". I guess what I meant to stress was that those spots are also useful for some of us expats here. I still visit them, and I think others do too.

As for other venues ... several options:

I could be wrong about #1 on your list, maybe I just wasn't lucky. But I haven't come across one shop up there that can match 91 or Bin Bin for sheer numbers of lookers. But if you know of one that can, please please send me a PM. ;-) For #2 or #3, no way on earth can the motorbike girls or BJ shops match the HBT bars in the looks dept. That goes back to the convenience issue: I don't want to drive around all night looking for one thats acceptable. I know if I walk into 91 I'm almost surely going to spot that immediately. If I go drive around motorbike spots, chances are much lower I'll spot what I like. Also, if you go to one motorbike spot (with 3 to 10 girls at once) and don't see what you like, then the next spot to check might be on the other side of the city. For the HBT bars (10-20 girls) , the next place might be next door (another 10-20) with a bunch more a short walk away. Also, in your #2 and #3 venues especially, hygiene is way lower. For #2 the STD / HIV risk would be way higher than anywhere else (they do way more customers, plus many of them inject). Anyway, I'm a foreigner who does go outside the D1 comfort zone. But I have to say a lot of the time it takes a lot of driving around for no results. And I always keep checking out D1 again. But your key point is totally correct: they're definitely much more expensive than the other venues, can't argue with that one. To get into the spots you mention, a guy has to be a bit adventurous, and also not too bothered by things that look a bit rough. It's not for everyone. So "comfort zone" regarding D1 bars is a good way of putting it.

[Disher]

Was at DBL today when it started to rain so I decided to stop to put on my raincoat. Just happened to stop right in front of a Goi Dau shop. Well, haven't tried this street yet and read somewhere there is actually ngu om. Wasn't a very busy place and there was also just one girl available at that time.

Place was dirtier than benny but way less customers. I actually think I was the only one. So instead of going to a tiny box you go into a big room with 2 massage mats, room has a curtain if there should be another customer there at the same time. But it looked like they have like at least 4 rooms on 2 floors.

Came in the room and she asked me to undress and went out to get wet towels. Speculating on FS I just undressed completely. This wasnt the place I heard of though so when she came back she told me I can't do this here. Meh.

Asked me if I want to have a massage but I denied so she starts with the usual nipple licking and then goes down.

Girl had nice boobs, decent face. I'd say she was 25 but didn't care to ask. Also didn't asked her for phone number or if she's available for st / lt. But pretty sure she is though. There are some very new and nie mini hotels on this street as well. Maybe ill ask next tie if you need to bring a girl or if you can pick them up right there.

Girl: 6.

BBBJ+CIM: 6, not sure if CIM is normal but I just kept her head down and she didn't mind really.

Damage: ticket 80k, tip 120k (only had 200k bill on me) = 200k.

Will give some other places a shot some other time as DBL has plenty of Goi Dau or massage places

Cheers.

Ps: don't try to hard to find cheap FS. Girls are rather average, place is usually dirty and service is mediocre at best. Go straight for free instead. Looking for serious GFE then be ready to spent some big bucks. Hot chicks don't come for free, not even if they are [CodeWord140] poor and need the money. And its still cheap for expats / tourists anyway.

I also strongly advice to learn some basic vietnamese. Use google translate and vdict and you're set for real world encounters as well as other places on the net where they exchange air planes. Vietnamese love to share. Learn, read and win. Sounds easy and it is. I actually know vietnamese but hardly need to speak when I'm out mongering. They know what you want without having to hear it from you.

[Raverboy]

First statement not exactly true. The bars in D1 are good for expats for whom cost is not the top priority while time and convenience are. They're more expensive than most types of places (and are actually still cheaper than some). What's good about them is that 1. You can get a large selection of quite attractive girls all in one spot, all ready to go. I don't think any other type of venue in the city can match them for concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space. 2. It's easy: no legwork to do, no need to exchange phone numbers and do dates first to soften them up. You can literally walk into one and choose a girl and walk out in less than 5 minutes if that's your thing. For guys who don't have lots of free time, that's a huge plus, and also a reason expats (esp married ones who can't be out all night) will go there. I would guess that more of the customers in these places are expats than tourists. Some guys on here hate them, and I get why, and understand. But these bars do serve their purpose. There's more to it than this too. The atmosphere in these bars is a big step up from, for example, the NPK hot tocs or bia oms or other VN-oriented places. Places with lower prices than these bars are generally a lot seedier looking. Some would say dirty. I can't say I've ever done a swab analysis to compare...

That's what I said preceding my 1st statement:

The problem is perpetuated by tourists / non-resident mongerers who might not have the time or inclination to chase that abundant yet elusive poontang in VN, of pricing more in line with the average wages in this country such as that you speak of. To many of them (for example: Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean, etc.) they are willing to pay the USD 50 for ST because 'its still cheaper' than in their home country....

As for other venues in this city to match the "concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space", here are a few examples out of several options:

1. The FS salons in Q Tan Binh and PMH Q7.

- 20+ salons in Q Tan Binh in a cluster of 4-5 streets. 20+ girls each.

2. Moto girls along NBK / XVNT / DBP.

- Example: I stopped along the side of the road along NBK one night on my motorbike, in about 20 seconds I was propositioned by 6-7 riders, all riding single. At least 2 do-able out of the lot.

3. BJ salons in Q Binh Thanh, Q10, Q Thu Duc.

- Depending on which salons, most of these girls would be amenable to being taken out at short notice for FS at a ST hotel, as they can easily double or triple their meagre income that way.

All of the above - No silly barfine, all ranging from minimum VND 300k to VND 600k maximum for ST, all already mentioned on this board. At the HBT bars you're out a minimum of VND 500k barfine + USD50 ST = VND 1,5 M for ST, plus overpriced ladydrinks.

Your 2nd statement: you also need a lot of TIME to pursue the free ones here. If you're single, living in a guesthouse or apartment or something, OK. But not everyone is in that situation. A lot of guys are very busy with work and don't have much free time, or have wives and families.

Right. So a small correction:

"IMO, if you are a single Foreigner in VN (I. E. You don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap / free pussy in this city are endless."

[Wendella]

Bars like Smiley's on Thi Sach and the 'numbered' bars on Hai Ba Trung and Dong Khoi streets are visited almost entirely by tourists / non-resident / foreign mongerers who are not willing to go outside of their D1 comfort zone.

IMO, if you are a foreigner in VN (I. E. You don't draw a Vietnamese salary) , have game, some basic Vietnamese, have your own motorbike being a plus, the possibilities for cheap / free pussy in this city are endless.

First statement not exactly true. The bars in D1 are good for expats for whom cost is not the top priority while time and convenience are. They're more expensive than most types of places (and are actually still cheaper than some). What's good about them is that 1. You can get a large selection of quite attractive girls all in one spot, all ready to go. I don't think any other type of venue in the city can match them for concentration of 100% available hotness in one small space. 2. It's easy: no legwork to do, no need to exchange phone numbers and do dates first to soften them up. You can literally walk into one and choose a girl and walk out in less than 5 minutes if that's your thing. For guys who don't have lots of free time, that's a huge plus, and also a reason expats (esp married ones who can't be out all night) will go there. I would guess that more of the customers in these places are expats than tourists. Some guys on here hate them, and I get why, and understand. But these bars do serve their purpose. There's more to it than this too. The atmosphere in these bars is a big step up from, for example, the NPK hot tocs or bia oms or other VN-oriented places. Places with lower prices than these bars are generally a lot seedier looking. Some would say dirty. I can't say I've ever done a swab analysis to compare.

Your 2nd statement: you also need a lot of TIME to pursue the free ones here. If you're single, living in a guesthouse or apartment or something, OK. But not everyone is in that situation. A lot of guys are very busy with work and don't have much free time, or have wives and families.

That's the normal price (1 million ST and 2 mil. LT) at Smiley's along with the HBT bars. The girls set the price and all stick to it. Stick to the Hot Tocs and BNG shops for the $200, 000 service. There are plenty out there and many listed in the forum.

I wasn't sure from the original post on this if the girl was asking for $50 for a BLOWJOB. If so, that's surely off the charts. But for ST it's standard. Last time I got a quote on a BJ in Smiley was 500, 000. You might be able to negotiate a tad lower, but not much (if at all). But 200, 000 is well below going-price in Smiley. That's a tip for some girls.