American Politics

[The Cane]

I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

I don't consider myself to be far left or far right. I can't stand either side really. I would say that I'm mostly left of center, but still so close to the center as not to be anywhere near a "leftist". I tend to feel most comfortable with left leaning candidates around the center, followed by right leaning around the center.

[Franciscass]

I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

It would be interesting to know the breakdown of ISG members between right wing or left wing, conservative or liberal, Pro Trump or Anti Trump. From those expressing views I feel it's pretty much an even split but with the edge given to the conservatives when it comes to feelings of righteousness.

[LittleBigMan]

To keep people from hanging outside in groups on those mats drinking and eating and spreading corona.

Do some people only see one side of life? I'm sure if there wasn't a curfew 3rd road the local clubs would be packed to the rim since business don't get going until 10 pm and that doesn't include all the Thai clubs further up 3rd road towards Pattaya Nua and then you got Naklau even more local clubs that cater to the underage if a Thai need to find their son a first place to look is head there.

Darkside, BBQ Jim June places packed to the rim no social distance anywhere to be seen it is like the wild west slowly opening they must not have gotten the word because it seem they are already on the 4th stage?

[Mogwai]

Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that.

The problem is that left wing and right wing posters often have a different view on what the real facts are.

[Mogwai]

The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to.

I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

[Cons68]

If you use the NY Times and Washington Post as your "sources" of information, you have shown your leftist leaning, anti-Trump colors to the world.

My name is Stewie Griffin and I must confess. I hate Trump so much that I travelled back in time 150 years in my time traveling machine to create a newspaper with the only goal of discrediting DonaldTrump back in 2019. And you guessed. That newspaper is the New York Times.

In any case guys, I want to thank you. Really.

When I look at my country and see the huge mess the Government has made managing this crisis I think "we are the dumbest in the galaxy".

But then I just need to take a look at the good old USA. And I feel smarter. Not by much to be honest, but a little. The whole thing with the face masks is even better than the one the spanish Health minister has organized. And that was a tough one.

I never thought I would say this. But long live the Vietnamese Communist party (0 deaths and a nice border with China).

If people were not dying this would be so laughable.

[Run Mann]

Thanks Run Mann but if other guys are like me we don't scroll all the way down to the Blog Section on a regular basis. The German thread is on the main forum. Maybe Admin2 can move your thread from the Blog section to the Main Forum.

Well the Thread is there and if you use it, others may follow your lead. Its ok to lament over its position but try contributing to it, you may effect the change you wanted.

[ScatManDoo]

If you use the NY Times and Washington Post as your "sources" of information, you have shown your leftist leaning, anti-Trump colors to the world.

Tests? What does testing do to prevent the transmission of the Wuhan virus? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Infection takes place only by close contact with infected patients.

Testing helps us to identify spreaders of the COVID-19 who are asymptomatic or experiencing minor symptoms. Otherwise these folks would have no other way to know that they need to take additional steps to prevent giving the virus to other people, like their friends and relatives.

Please let us know what sources you use to get your information from, so that we can get a good laugh.

I will suggest a good source for you to learn something, and be entertained.

Go watch the 50-minute interview that Joe Biden gave to Stephen Colbert on his late show May 21st (that ran past midnight into the 22nd of May).

Joe Biden tends to stays away from 5-syllable words like "asymptomatic", [Deleted by Admin]

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[Franciscass]

The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to. They can't help themselves. They are on a political crusade to save the world. Ha Ha.

As a counter example, there is a competing P4 P website that does a better job at policing its threads. I am not allowed to mention the name of this competing website here, but I am pretty sure everybody knows the site I am referring to. Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that. Sorry Jackson or whoever is in charge here. Banish me if your want. Take away my posting privileges - I don't care, but allowing the left wingers to take over a forum topic is bad management or maybe you approve of the takeover. In any case, either do something about it or I predict you will lose 30% to 50% of your contributing members. Take a look/see at Sports Illustrated subscription numbers over the last 6 years since they began to insert left wing dogma into their sports stories if you don't believe me.

Natty Bumpo - I am fed up.

I hope you don't leave Natty. I may not agree with your views on politics but when you are not allowing yourself to be upset with criticisms of the dear leader your posts are no pun intended chatty and entertaining and sometimes informative especially on the Manila scene where I sometimes find myself. Open forums like ISG attract all types from narcissistic navel gazers to online Walter Mitty's to perpetual whiners but mostly just decent heads who want to voice their opinion on their experiences of the P4 P scene here. Over the years I have found using the ignore button helps a lot in not allowing oneself to get annoyed at what's on screen. Hope things get back to some semblance of normality when or if you manage to get back later in the year. Stay safe.

[Franciscass]

Natty. You seem like a very sensible dude, but you let the bile that is politics on a hooker web site get under your skin? I'm surprised.

No doubt ISG has become more of a forum for expression of political views. I guess it's up to admin to decide how far that goes.

What I feel is important is how civil the discourse is. I have always felt where there is a difference of opinion on an issue it should and can be done with respect for the other person's opinion.

We can differ on issues, political, social and otherwise but unfortunately too often usually when one side feels it is losing the argument it sadly becomes heated and personalized.

It shouldn't and doesn't need to.

[MonkeyPaw]

1. Divide the USA and the people even more than it already is.

2. Weaken any of the USA alliances with others.

3. Strengthen the USA's enemies' weaponry and nuclear arsenal.

4. Isolate the USA from the rest of the world.

5. Weaken the USA's economy by weakening any other economies pegged to it.

6. Piss off the biggest creditor of the USA in terms of foreign debt.

7. And perhaps when 1-6 is accomplished, send the country into a war.

Do 1-6 very cunningly, so that it's unsuspecting, just like a wolf in a sheep's clothing. Results speak for themselves, no matter what we do, what the intentions are, what we believe, what we write, or what comes out of our mouths. And if the price of tea in China does matter, I'the keep and eye on China and HK and the end of 1 country 2 systems with China's National Security Law. End of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

[LittleBigMan]

The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to. They can't help themselves. They are on a political crusade to save the world. Ha Ha.

As a counter example, there is a competing P4 P website that does a better job at policing its threads. I am not allowed to mention the name of this competing website here, but I am pretty sure everybody knows the site I am referring to. Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that. Sorry Jackson or whoever is in charge here. Banish me if your want. Take away my posting privileges - I don't care, but allowing the left wingers to take over a forum topic is bad management or maybe you approve of the takeover. In any case, either do something about it or I predict you will lose 30% to 50% of your contributing members. Take a look/see at Sports Illustrated subscription numbers over the last 6 years since they began to insert left wing dogma into their sports stories if you don't believe me.

Natty Bumpo - I am fed up.

Not taking sides, your opinion is a bit bias even on this site the only thing people are doing is giving their opinion right or wrong that is all it is, the left spins and so does the right read accept it or take it with a grain of salt and hope you have enough sense to make something out of it. Just because it doesn't sit well with your position doesn't mean you should leave walk out of this site isn't going to mean you won't get it outside.

I've had my differences in the past with Jackson I don't think he is around any longer but even then when I did at least I had the opportunity behind the scenes to have a conversation with him, to be honest, whoever is in charge has a better handle now it seems?

I know the website you didn't mention I haven't posted in years and just left for a number of reasons it is informative but years before joining I was told the web owners are biased so are a number of their regular posters against Americans there seem to be a click group who control everything and what I mean control everything is they have a moderator who join into the conversation and if they don't like what is said about their own opinion get warnings, timeouts, and finally banned if you try to even have a simple conversation from their own rules it is their way or the highway. I've heard a number of members say " think their shit don't smell " you take what you need to state your opinion or not and move on " there isn't greener grass " and that includes Websites like these. You walk you lose.

[Stykler]

The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to. They can't help themselves. They are on a political crusade to save the world. Ha Ha.

As a counter example, there is a competing P4 P website that does a better job at policing its threads. I am not allowed to mention the name of this competing website here, but I am pretty sure everybody knows the site I am referring to. Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that. Sorry Jackson or whoever is in charge here. Banish me if your want. Take away my posting privileges - I don't care, but allowing the left wingers to take over a forum topic is bad management or maybe you approve of the takeover. In any case, either do something about it or I predict you will lose 30% to 50% of your contributing members. Take a look/see at Sports Illustrated subscription numbers over the last 6 years since they began to insert left wing dogma into their sports stories if you don't believe me.

Natty Bumpo - I am fed up.

Natty. You seem like a very sensible dude, but you let the bile that is politics on a hooker web site get under your skin? I'm surprised.

[Member #4698]

Maybe I should start talking about needlepoint or crocheting and see how you guys feel.

Everything now goes in the Thailand General Reports forum so if you want to delve into needlepoint go right ahead. I am interested in AstroPhysics myself, so I think I will start things off by posting "a simplified explanation and brief history of string theory" by Charlie Wood:

As a so-called "Theory of Everything" candidate, string theory aims to address various theoretical conundrums; the most fundamental of which is how gravity works for tiny objects like electrons and photons. General relativity describes gravity as a reaction of large objects, like planets, to curved regions of space, but theoretical physicists think gravity should ultimately behave more like magnetism fridge magnets stick because their particles are swapping photons with fridge particles. Of the four forces in nature, only gravity lacks this description from the perspective of small particles. Theorists can predict what a gravity particle should look like, but when they try to calculate what happens when two "gravitons" smash together, they get an infinite amount of energy packed into a small space a sure sign that the math is missing something.

One possible solution, which theorists borrowed from nuclear physicists in the 1970's, is to get rid of the problematic, point-like graviton particles. Strings, and only strings, can collide and rebound cleanly without implying physically impossible infinities.

"A one-dimensional object that's the thing that really tames the infinities that come up in the calculations," said Marika Taylor, a theoretical physicist at the University of Southampton in England.

String theory turns the page on the standard description of the universe by replacing all matter and force particles with just one element: Tiny vibrating strings that twist and turn in complicated ways that, from our perspective, look like particles. A string of a particular length striking a particular note gains the properties of a photon, and another string folded and vibrating with a different frequency plays the role of a quark, and so on. In addition to taming gravity, the framework proved attractive for its potential to explain so-called fundamental constants like the electron's mass. The next step is to find the right way to describe the folding and movement of strings, theorists hope, and everything else will follow.

But that initial simplicity turned out to come at the cost of unexpected complexity string math didn't work in the familiar four dimensions (three of space and one of time). It needed six additional dimensions (for a total of 10) visible only to the little strings, much as a powerline looks like a 1 D line to birds flying far overhead but a 3 D cylinder to an ant crawling on the wire. Adding to the conundrum, physicists had come up with five conflicting string theories by the mid-1980's. The theory of everything was fractured.

A more fundamental theory emerges.

Over the next decade, scientists exploring the relationships between the five theories began to find unexpected connections, which Edward Witten, a theorist at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey, gathered up and presented at a 1995 string theory conference at the University of Southern California. Witten argued that the five string theories each represented an approximation of a more fundamental, 11-dimensional theory in a particular situation, much as how Einstein's space- and time-bending theories of relativity match Newton's description of objects moving at normal speeds.

The novel theory is called M-theory, although to this day no one knows what mathematical form it might take. The "M" is likely inspired by higher-dimensional objects called membranes, Taylor said, but since the theory has no concrete mathematical equations, the "M" remains a placeholder with no official meaning. "It was really a parametrization of our ignorance," Taylor said. "This parent theory that would describe absolutely everything. ".

Attempts to find those general equations that would work in every possible situation made little progress, but the alleged existence of the fundamental theory gave theorists the understanding and confidence needed to develop mathematical techniques for the five versions of string theory and apply them in the right context. Strings are far too small to detect with any conceivable technology, but one early theoretical success was their ability to describe black hole entropy in 1996.

Entropy refers to the number of ways that you can arrange the parts of a system, but without being able to see into the impenetrable depths of a black hole, no one knows what type of particles might lie inside, or what arrangements they can take. And yet, in the early 1970's Stephen Hawking and others showed how to calculate the entropy, suggesting that black holes have some sort of internal structure. Most attempts to describe the black hole's makeup fall short, but tallying the configurations of hypothetical strings does the trick. "String theory has been able to give a spot-on counting," Taylor says, "not just roughly getting it right. ".

The string framework still faces many challenges, however: It produces an impossible number of ways to fold up the extra dimensions that all seem to fit the broad features of the Standard Model of particle physics, with little hope of distinguishing which is the right one. Moreover, all of those models rely on an equivalence between force particles and matter particles called supersymmetry that, like the extra dimensions, we don't observe in our world. The models also don't seem to describe an expanding universe.

A number of physicists, such as Peter Woit of Columbia University, view these divergences from reality as fatal flaws. "The basic problem with string theory unification research is not that progress has been slow over the past 30 years," he wrote on his blog, "but that it has been negative, with everything learned showing more clearly why the idea doesn't work. ".

Taylor, however, maintains that today's models are overly simplistic, and that features like cosmological expansion and a lack of supersymmetry may someday be built into future versions. Taylor expects that, while the new era of gravitational wave astronomy may bring new tidbits of information about quantum gravity, more progress will be made by continuing to follow the math deeper into string theory. "I have a theoretical bias," she said, "but I think the kind of breakthrough I'm describing would come from a chalkboard; from thought. ".

Modern string theory connects mathematical dots.

Regardless of how string theory's Theory of Everything candidacy evolves, its legacy as a productive research program may be assured on mathematical merit alone.

"It can't be a dead end in the sense of what we've learned just from mathematics itself," Taylor said. "If you told me tomorrow that the universe absolutely isn't supersymmetric and doesn't have 10 (spatial) dimensions, we've still connected whole branches of mathematics. ".

When Witten and others showed that the five string theories were shadows of a single parent theory, they highlighted connections called dualities, which have proven to be a major contribution to mathematics and physics.

A duality is an abstract, mathematical relationship between two situations that look different, but can be translated from one to the other. Consider, for example, a bird hologram on a credit card. Is it 2 D or 3 D? In a physical sense the sticker is flat, but in a visual sense the image has depth. Both descriptions agree that the hologram contains a bird.

Physicists have used analogous dualities to bridge seemingly unrelated branches of math, such as geometry and number theory. Each operates as a separate language, but dualities let mathematicians translate from one to the other, attacking problems untenable in one framework by using calculations done in the other. Other dualities help overcome challenges in quantum computing. "It's not going to make your next generation iPhone," Taylor said, "But it may make your iPhone for the 22nd century. ".

Whether string theory's ability to illuminate the dark web connecting different areas of math turns out to be a sign of its potential, or just a lucky coincidence, remains a subject of debate. Witten, speaking at the Institute for Advanced Study in May, acknowledged that while he no longer feels as confident as he once did that did that string theory will evolve into a complete physical theory, his gut tells him that the theory remains productive field of research.

"To me, it's implausible that humans stumbled by accident on (to) such an incredible structure that sheds so much light on established physical theories, and also on so many different branches of mathematics," he told the audience. "I have confidence that the general enterprise is on the right track, but I don't claim that the argument I've given is scientifically convincing."

My next post will be on M Theory

[Rodwint2]

Weird, I was reading below Trump was a foreign policy genius, and now you are saying he got played like a moron by China.

As much as China tried to hide things from end December to 20th of January, why didn't the Trump administration understand that if China put 50 million people in mandatory lockdown from 22th of January to begining of april and 1. 3 billion people in semi mandatory lockdown from 25th of January to mid / end of February, it was for a reason? why several other asian countries adopted strick measures too?

President's intelligence briefing book repeatedly cited virus threat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...101_story.html

How about the diamond princess? 700 sick people within a few days on the boat and half a dozen dead so pretty much the same death ratio we're seing nowdays. And Trump was still minimizing the situation, refusing to test the american people against covid. Calling the sickness a hoax.

Only a few hundred tests had been done in the US while Italy had done thousands and South Korea tens of thousands.

TESTS (or the decision from the administration NOT TO PERFORM TESTS) that's where the "FALSE AND MISLEADING INFO", to quote you, comes from. He refused to test and therefore didn't find the ten of thousand sicks people already there in america.

How about his support on twitter to people against the lockdown measures states took? How about the "lets get contaminated together parties" that came out of it?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...tion-by-trump/

If you use the NY Times and Washington Post as your "sources" of information, you have shown your leftist leaning, anti-Trump colors to the world.

Tests? What does testing do to prevent the transmission of the Wuhan virus? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Infection takes place only by close contact with infected patients. That was proven in Wuhan, NY and Seattle nursing homes, and on cruise ships. Face masks of any kind, 6 feet distancing, and avoiding infected people will keep everyone safe. Once an effective vaccine is developed and mass inoculations of the most vulnerable takes place, this pandemic becomes a footnote in history.

Look at the outbreaks in northern China and Seoul that have been just discovered. Links to lack of social distancing and partying in gay karaoke bars was found to be the source of these outbreaks. The bars were closed in Seoul and northern China is in lockdown. Wait three weeks and those outbreaks will be over. How many people will have died from these outbreaks? Far less than the previous outbreaks in Wuhan and Daegu since the authorities know to handle the situation.

The severe outbreaks in the Northeast US is due to the extremely poor leadership of the Democrats who run those states. Not to be racist, but NY State and NYC both have Italians running their governments and given the Europe's worse outbreak is in Italy, my big suggestion is that no "Fredo" should be an elected leader in the free world! LOL !!! On a serious note, what idiot would order nursing homes to take in Wuhan virus patients? Governor Cuomo. Thousands of elderly nursing home patients died in NY. When asked if this was a bad decision, Cuomo said that the people in the nursing homes who died were old any way and would soon be dead. What school of government taught him that concept? The Nazis at Nuremberg?