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09-23-20 09:44 #12104
Posts: 336Let them eat cake!
The "special tourist visa" of 90 days is about as worthless as they come. The recent comments by the CP Group chairman that Thai tourism should be only for the wealthy ignores the fact that millions of poor Thais rely on the tourism business in some manner and that the industry makes up over 20% of Thailand's GDP!
The recent student protests will become a revolution if the government fails to recognize the needs of its people. A communist ploy of fermenting revolution to get rid of the monarchy will play in to the Communist Chinese Party's intention on making Thailand a client state or worse a complete take over with the PLA seizing the entire country. When 11 million Chinese tourists come from the PRC, one can easily see how the CCP would relish taking over Thailand.
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09-23-20 09:19 #12103
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by GettingFedUp [View Original Post]
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09-23-20 08:44 #12102
Posts: 178Originally Posted by GrapeMan [View Original Post]
You've kind of hit the nail on the head. The Ministry of Tourism / Tourist Authority of Thailand blows hot air about stimulating the moribund Tourism sector, but in reality this is aimed at a very small market of individuals.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
You won't see them around Pattaya or the mongering mass tourism spots of Phuket, Samui etc but there are a small but significant band of reasonably (and some of them extremely) wealthy foreigners who come to Thailand to escape the cold northern hemisphere winter for 4, 5, 6 months each year. Chinese, Russians, Scandinavians, North Americans. Some are retirees, others may have business interests in Thailand or elsewhere in SE Asia.
There's a reason why the marinas of Phuket are always full of boats. And not cheap boats (or moorings) at that. I know a chap who worked on an Azimut 105 which is usually based in Phuket. The Chinese owner spent around 6 months a year living on Phuket and about 4 days of that on the boat but never stayed overnight because "only fishermen and sea gypsies sleep on the sea". For those 4 days of boating he retained a crew of 6 for the boat on top of the 4 or 5 Thais employed at the villa year round and certainly not at 330 baht per day (the Thais likely 10 times this, the two farang well into 6 digits USD). He had to leave his cushy job when the boat was sold to a Russian. He made the mistake of admitting he understood some Russian and the new owner would never allow any of the crew the opportunity to overhear or eavesdrop his dodgy dealings.
To everyone.
Understand this. Thailand has made its choice to avoid "second wave", renewed lockdowns, etc. And that means anything vaguely like mass tourism is closed until further notice. The vast majority of the Thai population nationally agree with keeping the borders effectively shut. The demonstrators / activists / reformists are not calling for a change to this policy. High season 2020 has been written off. Their country, their rules as they say.
As to the economic impact. It is what it is. It would be interesting to see a comparison of the overall impact of a second lockdown of all but essential businesses versus the tourism effect of the borders closing. A lot of people both here and on other forums display complete disregard for the composition of the Thai economy.
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09-23-20 08:37 #12101
Posts: 28Originally Posted by BuschMan [View Original Post]Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Do the maths now.
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09-23-20 07:49 #12100
Posts: 178Originally Posted by JohnnyO [View Original Post]
I've just answered a query in another thread which covers this. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...78#post2486278.
Short answer is if they don't like your paperwork or you test positive at the required test within 72 hours of departure your cash is gone.
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09-23-20 07:03 #12099
Posts: 351Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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09-23-20 04:34 #12098
Posts: 6308Originally Posted by BuschMan [View Original Post]
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09-23-20 02:36 #12097
Posts: 1310Originally Posted by AmPervert [View Original Post]
Phitsanalok is great, I though what Yai was gorgeous and I really spent some time with Phra Buddaha Chinnawat, which itself is worth a trip.
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09-23-20 01:33 #12096
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by GrapeMan [View Original Post]
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09-22-20 23:26 #12095
Posts: 1Not enough
Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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09-22-20 22:26 #12094
Posts: 351Originally Posted by DanCee [View Original Post]
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09-22-20 21:26 #12093
Posts: 146Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Try Sukhothai. It is a pleasant little town. It has ruins from long ago. I photograph there all of the time. The different seasons have different light. Don't go in the burning season. In the summertime, it is all Thai tourists for the most part. I looked up hotels recently and they are so cheap. Places are showing up that I had never seen listed. If college is back in session, I recommend Phitsanulok as well. It is dead in the day. The students and faculty come out at night and they are fun. Interesting little town with some of the best street food in Thailand.(in my experience) The Chiang Mai train passes through Phitsanulok. It is an interesting ride north. Going south to BKK is grueling.
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09-22-20 19:52 #12092
Posts: 28Or looking from their point of view.
Originally Posted by JohnnyO [View Original Post]
But their point is that we are in the leper colony now, not them.
Sure, economic complacency will set in eventually, but I'm not holding my breath any more. I've given up, been gasping too long.
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09-22-20 15:24 #12091
Posts: 261Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo [View Original Post]
Just think how much money this is going to cost after 2 - 3 weeks before your holiday even starts, I'm guessing around $5000 to basically spend 2 weeks on a leper colony and go through the worst bureaucracy on the planet and then to top it all off they want to track you on an app which leaves me with more questions. What happens if you run out of battery and the tracking stops or you lose your phone, will you get into trouble? There must be a lot more to this that they will only reveal once you land on the leper colony as you will have no choice but to comply.
This is really only for people that really need to return and there is no other way for them. There are just way too many obstacles and out of pocket expenses for the ordinary tourist for this to make any sense.
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09-22-20 11:20 #12090
Posts: 220The last gas plant to go to Thailand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU9SppsvJs&t=65s
It's probably easier to go to the moon with SpaceX (and maybe cheaper)