Medellin Reports

[BlueChange]

Hello everyone,

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Hey buddy. This post makes my heart bleed for you! Keep your head up. This is what they do.

Paisa are Jedi Level 100 heart Manipluators. Anyone that has lived in Medellin for more then a month has had this happen to them.

I'm not here to beat you up or give you examples of what to do and what not to do. ALl I can tell you is to remember. Remember all the pain it caused and to learn from the good and bad. It.

S brave of you to share on here I know. We might be a "mongers" board but we are also Humans. Good luck to you. PM me if you like. I actualy know some more "real" girls like real real ones. It can happen. You just need to make actual friends with colombian locals and you will get into the social circles.

[Iguana Six]

Hmmmm. Spending time, money, and energy taking another man's girlfriend seems like the height of self loathing: a metaphor for alpha fucks and beta bucks. Best case scenario: you take her on the trip, she is on her best behavior, she gives you the best sex of her life, and she declares her love for you. Congratulations, you are human **** detector, having determined that she is willing to vine swing to the Bigger, Better Deal. Like the Parisian tart who had a boyfriend in the French Army in 1940, upgraded to German soldier in 1943, and was the war bride of an American officer in 1946, only to be divorced and safely ensconced in the suburbs of Scarsdale, New York, by 1951. (Think of the mother of the Leonardo deCaprio character in 'Catch Me If You Can. '.

I hope this experience has opened your eyes. Don't take your wife on vacation. Don't take your girlfriend on vacation, unless she helps pay for it. And you certainly don't take a "potential" girlfriend or someone else's girlfriend on vacation. A trip to Manizales is cool. But there are chicas there, too, not need to bring one. Why take sand to the beach? Why take coals to Newcastle? Why fly lobbyists to Washington?

Like Maslow's hierarchy of human needs, the female corollary is a constant need for Protection / Provision / Entertainment / Validation. When she started bringing up potential conflicts to leaving in the first place, she was giving you a "shit test" (as in "How much shit will this guy put up with? Have I bent him to my will, yet? You passed her shit test by wanting the vacation more than she did, she got to enjoy some "drama" (getting you to beg), and she was not committed to it from the start. That was the time to say, "ok," we can hang out while I am in town, and if she started getting unreliable, you would have still been free to have fun with her local competition. By not taking her on the vacation, she would have learned to value your availability, and you would have deflected her pent up demand for Provision / Attention / Validation back to her boyfriend. What would have been the next step? You take them both on vacation, and spend your nights in the bed room next door listening to them cavorting at your expense?

Women rarely act better on vacation than they do at home. On a vacation that you are paying for, provision and protection are already assumed. The fact that you have chosen them for the vacation will. Temporarily - sate their need for validation. However, when women are not sufficiently entertained, they will gladly accept the substitute of made up conflict. In other words when the "soap opera" of their own lives starts to bore them, they create things to be upset about. Why do you think we call it "drama?

They will ruin a perfectly good vacation if they get bored or if you focus on enjoying the vacation instead of using it as a platform to bolster their self-esteem. They will start with pouting, emotionally withdrawing to see if you focus on the vacation rather than on the subtle cues she is sending you that she wants more attention. When you don't, they will sabotage the vacation, first by criticizing and nitpicking more and more details. ("Aspen is too cold. This beach isn't sandy enough. Rio de Janiero is too hot. The local women are all wearing slutty string bikinis. Don't look at them. You only gave me $500 to go shopping with. The bed is too hard. My co-worker's boyfriend took her to Mount Expensive. Why didn't you take me to Mount Expensive? The humidity of San Tropez is bad for my hair. ".

Like the true princess in the fairy tale, you will find out that she CAN detect if someone has put three peas under the bed of 26 mattresses she slept on.

Women will ruin perfectly good vacations if they get bored. They can afford to. To you, that vacation ruined by her impossible-to-meet standards (which is actually her bottomless pit of need for entertainment / validation) represents vacation days you will not get back from your employer, the overtime hours you put over some weekends, the little sacrifices you made to save the extra money to pay for the vacation while meeting her everyday P / P / E / V needs. To her, it was just an opportunity to run you through a battery of shit tests. They do this, because you can't do anything about it. You are trying to salvage a vacation she has no investment in. I have seen women on vacation turn into emotional terrorists, creating psychodrama as that get their men locked up in jail (on domestic violence charges or orchestrating a fist fight with one of the locals), setting off financial bombs ("honey, I took all our savings and lost it in the casino".), or completely humiliating their men in public.

Imagine being the pilot of a jet airliner. In the cockpit, is the pilot, the man who just wanted clear skies and low cloud cover as he navigates his way through this flight. In the passenger section, are not passengers, but all the man's work and social relationships, his credit record, and the rest of his 'baggage. ' The bored and slightly suicidal wife or girlfriend is like a terrorist who bursts into the cockpit and will wrestle the pilot for control of the plane / vacation. The flight / vacation is too smooth and lacks excitement, so she will remedy that by trying to crash the vacation into a mountain. Not because she is trying to make a political point. But because she is bored and the pilot is not paying enough attention to her.

If you have gotten this far in a relationship, to the point that you will take her on vacations, she already determined she has "gotten" you, that you care. Women appreciate men that they have acquired easily the way that children appreciate toys that their parents replace every time they break them for the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time. What does she really appreciate? The guy that is still out of reach. She figures you are a broken plow horse and not a wild stallion, so why not see how far the taming process goes? What are you going to do? Hit the "ejection seat" midway through the vacation, check out of the hotel, and go your own way?

99% of men will not do that, because they think they have so much to lose. "I can't just pay the hotel bill and leave her with her credit card, passport, and plane ticket so she can go back home while I go and spend the rest of my time with the local women who are younger, hotter, and less bitchy than my girlfriend. I just can't! I have too much to lose back home. I've invested* too much into the relationship. " said every blue pill man who came back from vacation tired, frustrated, alienated, broke, and with blue balls.

Most men have high expectations for the vacation. They think that a new environment, a new adventure is going to make her soooo romantic. It is just the opposite for women. Whatever endorphin thrill she experienced about the vacation came when she saw the charges for airfare and lodging get swiped onto your credit card and tapered off 15 minutes after she bragged about the vacation plans to her friends. That occurred days or weeks before you went to the airport, and women are programmed to ask "What have you done for me. Lately?" and by lately, for some women, emotionally, they have the 30 second emotional memory span of a goldfish. When goldfish are hungry or scared for 30 seconds, they believe that they have been hungry or scared all their lives.

This is why I argue that you are better off being a monger and having many "honeymoons. " Go abroad, meet exotic, beautiful women, be nice to each other, enjoy those wonderful endorphins at the peak of their tingly freshness, knowing you have gotten 75% of the best parts of any relationship with a woman in 5% of the time and for a fraction of the cost. Now, THAT is an investment with a high rate of return! Experience time with a woman that has nothing to gain by creating "drama" because you aren't the pilot of big, slow jet airliner that is loaded with all your baggage. You came in a fighter jet and your cockpit comes equipped with the handle to an ejection seat. And guess what? You aren't sitting in the ejection seat. She is!

Once she cut you off from her competition, she had you at her mercy. To have her cut you off from girlfriend sex to hand jobs. That was her seeing how much she had "broken you. ".

Imagine if you had said, after a second night of hand jobs, that you saw this wasn't working out and you heading back to MDE or checking into another room in the hotel (to cavort with the local talent). She would have changed her tune pretty quick. You are not around all the time, and she could not wait until you were heading back home to experiment with her local guy? And she had to tell you she was carrying a torch for him? Why? To humiliate you, is why.

Women only have power over thirsty men. She took you away to the waterfall (MDE), created a temporary "pussy desert," and then spent the rest of the week taunting and teasing you with "mirages" of an oasis and dangling a canteen of water while you crawled in the sand.

Chicas are on their best behavior when they have something to lose. Sure, the idea of trip seems like a great idea, but it never works out, or if it does, it has an expiration date of 72 hours.

* We can have a discussion at some other time about how a blue pill man's "investment" in a relationship is such a poor one.

[Cursnoop]

Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.

For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with. My game is quite OK and I am never shy to go to talk to any woman.

But I am looking for something really specific: a girl, educated, that does not want me to be her sugardaddy all the time, with a skinny top model body.

Sex just for sex doesn't interest me so much any more unless new experiences.

I am 32 y old; super tall; OK looking and European. My first language is French but I speak quite well Spanish. I am living in Medellin for 2 months.

Just came back yesterday from 5 really crazy days. I must say. I really hate myself now, but I guess it makes me feel temporarily better to write about it.

The girl.

5/6 weeks ago, I met this girl in a Parque LLeras club (el deck), had her whatsapp really easily with funny lines like "you are the girl of my life, I want to meet you, blabla"....

I hate to say this but anywhere were there are too many sex tourist girls won't take you seriously in relationship unless you show them you are there to live and not for 2 weeks and leave. And what did you mean with * ? And don't forget some girls ain't worth to be in relationship it is just life they just want to be banged by different guys they don't want to be saved. And Parque Lleras is full of pros if you want to meet cool girls go to eafit. Rule of advice every where there is money $$ there is prostitution.

[Member #4402]

Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.

For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with...

Interesting story. Thanks for sharing.

Perhaps you are over thinking it? (Easy, I know, when you get hooked on someone.).

A highly simplified version of your story could be:

1. Girl meets interesting boy.

2. Girl wants to learn more, and so gives him lots of encouragement.

3. Girl decides he's nice, but not for her, and so gives him a lot of discouragement.

The details of her positive, then negative signals don't really matter, and it may be wasted energy to analyze them.

My own story was a bit different. I met my chica, was similarly starstruck, then returned to spend several more time with her. She was nice and fun to party with, but it was clear that she was looking for money, so I just lost my interest. She sensed that and didn't try to keep it going afterwards.

[KillArmy]

Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.

For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with. My game is quite OK and I am never shy to go to talk to any woman.

But I am looking for something really specific: a girl, educated, that does not want me to be her sugardaddy all the time, with a skinny top model body.

Sex just for sex doesn't interest me so much any more unless new experiences.

I am 32 y old; super tall; OK looking and European. My first language is French but I speak quite well Spanish. I am living in Medellin for 2 months.

Just came back yesterday from 5 really crazy days. I must say. I really hate myself now, but I guess it makes me feel temporarily better to write about it.

The girl.

5/6 weeks ago, I met this girl in a Parque LLeras club (el deck), had her whatsapp really easily with funny lines like "you are the girl of my life, I want to meet you, blabla".

She is physically my perfection: very skinny but still with a nice and natural ass / boobs combo; rather tall for a local girl (1.69) and has the longest hair I have ever seen. 22 years old.

I met her twice afterwards, we kissed on first date; she told me some really wonderful things like. "I want to know all about you", etc. She is middle class and in her last year as a dentist, she hates if I pay anything for her.

I am basically quickly falling into sentiments. The third date, I invite her at my place to watch some movie and we end up have amazing sex. She has the most beautiful body I have ever seen in real.

She is bisexual, tells me about some of her crazy stories, damn, perfect girl. She told me she wanted to go to EJE Cafetero (Salento, Manizales, etc.) during Semana Santa and I quickly said I would go with her. This is exactly what happened.

But it was not easy. She does not have money since she is still studying and her father is helping her. But the night before we are supposed to go, she is like, I am canceling all because my father is so bad, I can't go; blabla. She is out of her house for +24 hours.

I don't believe her and tell her she is playing with me. She answer me with so crazy messages telling me that "that all our conversations, laughs, the sex we had together, etc, were not a game, that she likes me a lot, etc. ".

I feel in heaven with her answers and the next day. Her father finally gave her money and Tuesday morning, we were in our way to Eje Cafetero.

I am like "Damn, OK, I only know her for a little bit of time but going 5 days in a trip with her is going to make things amazing. " Especially since she is dreaming about traveling but didn't have many opportunities.

When we make it to our amazing hotel near Manizales in our first day, we have amazing sex, she is so beautiful, god I am happy. Once again, she pays everything, we do all 50/50.

There I am, with a girl that I find physically perfect, not with me for my money, a bit crazy like I like, doing very well in her studies, etc. Almost most perfect times ever.

Then. Things start to go down. Second day, she tells me she does not want to have sex with me anymore. Basically, for the 4 other days, we had a once a day really nice masturbation sessions where I would give her an orgasm and she would finish me at handjobing.

Very nice but I don't understand why she doesn't want sex any more.

Then, and that is where I start to hate myself, I basically show too much my sentiments and she doesn't like it. Things like, when we are traveling, I always want to touch her hand or something like that. She doesn't like it.

We have conversations where she tells me that she is still young; that she doesn't care if people think she is a ***** but that she still wants to experiment with many guys and girls.

She wished and I wish that I was the guy that didn't had any feeling about her, just sex and fun.

But I basically never can do that in my life when I start to like a girl. And almost every times, it fucks me. I really think of myself of shit about this. Its like, any girl I really like I will always fuck up things. While most girls I fuck with, that I don't care about, things go quite well.

Then. Things get even worse. 3 days ago, she finally tells me, little by little, that she is thinking about another guy ALL the time. That she thinks to be in couple with him. All the bullshit about not wanting to be in a relation and then this.

The guy is Colombian, 36 why old (god girls love older guys here.), he told her she is in a informal relation with a woman but wants to be with her.

She goes so crazy about it, looking at her whatsapp all the time.

The fucked up thing is they met. Just a little bit before she met me! They had sex only once, when we were already together.

The *****. But before our 5 days trip, she would never show she was thinking about someone else. Once again, she showed me so many signs that I interpreted as 'I really start to like you too'. This whole drama only started during the trip.

What is more horrible than having a girl next to you that is 100% thinking about someone else?

God, this makes me feel so much like shit.

- I think it is almost impossible for a gringo guy, even with good Spanish; to find a paisa girlfriend in a relation non based about money. The nice educated girls, with no kids; they only want Colombian guys.

Plus, even if your Spanish is really good, the conversations with a local educated guy will always be more enjoyable for her. God this fucks me so much to think like that. Is my only viable option, knowing what I want, to be with a girl from my country? (Belgium) I hate the idea.

- She probably saw the guy almost as soon as we arrived to Medellin yesterday night. I tried to go party, to speak to a few girls but came back quite drunk, feeling like shit like never.

I hope it went wrong with the guy but I doubt it. He is probably good to make someone feel crazy like she did with her and even if he only wants a young and fine pussy, he will not fuck his own game.

She told me she was only in love twice in her life and that she had problems about it then (had to go to a psychologist, missed a whole school year, etc.). She is super passionate.

I don't know much what to do now. I plan not to write to her at all for a few days but the Whatsapp attraction is really strong.

Even though the idea fucks me, I guess I am done with her and should grow up and stop to be a drama Queen. But as soon as I will be again alone with my thoughts, not doing much, I will go down again.

°Did some of you have kind of the same stories? What do you think about it? Please, it would be great to read your since thoughts.

°Even though it doesn't make sense with the 'I am totally in love and want a relation with this Colombian guy' bullshit, she told me many times that she would want to have group sex.

I am opened to bisexual relations and she seems to be very fond about the idea. Do you recommend me the Swingers Clubs? I have read about Lili Swinger, is it nice there?

°Last but not least. Where do you recommend me to go out to, I guess I will have no choice, find more girls like her: educated, not looking for money type of girls. Where does university girls go? In my opinion, Parque LLeras is as bad as hell even though you can always get lucky. (I met her there.).

Parque Colombia? Anywhere else? For the story, before I met her, I once went to Bello, we were the only gringos in place and the game was maybe the easiest of my whole life! Had a really nice fuck the next day.

Cheers guys.

[Mr Enternational]

How long does it take the bus to get there? How do I arrange to take the bus back to the airport? How long does it take the bus to get back to the airport?

When I arrive, I usually drop off my bags where I am staying and make a mad dash for pharm/phone/food/cash: Hit the pharmacy, buy minutes for my local phone, change money, get snacks. I know where to get all that in Poblado, and in short order, but can anyone provide locations near the Hotel N?

It takes 50 minutes to get back and forth to the airport. To go back you go to the same place it dropped you off and hop on the next thing smoking. They leave every 30 minutes. I don't know about changing money because I use the ATMs. The one inside Nutibara hotel is one that is accessible 24 hours. Everything else that you mentioned you will find in ample supply all over the area.

P.S. There are restaurants open downtown today. Right now me and my girl are having breakfast at my usual spot.

[Iguana Six]

After you pass out of immigration and go outside there will be 2 green and white buses. One goes to San Diego and the other goes to centro. The people going to Poblado take the San Diego bus then take a taxi from there. The people going downtown take the centro bus and get off at the last stop, which is in front of the bus company's office and behind the Nutibara Hotel. 9000 pesos.

Thank you so much, sir. Once again, our own strange version of Fight Club delivers.

I'm dipping my toes into the Centro action next trip, staying at he Nutibara, and not using a driver to get there.

How long does it take the bus to get there? How do I arrange to take the bus back to the airport? How long does it take the bus to get back to the airport?

When I arrive, I usually drop off my bags where I am staying and make a mad dash for pharm/phone/food/cash: Hit the pharmacy, buy minutes for my local phone, change money, get snacks. I know where to get all that in Poblado, and in short order, but can anyone provide locations near the Hotel N?

[Surf Looker]

Yes visited but also good to keep hearing new info and others opinion.

Never been to this place but seems to be fun and pretty girls.

https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1029014894/

Fonda las Chifladas.

Anyone been there!

Are you ever really going to Medellin or are you writing a book? As early as 2009 you have been asking questions about Medellin. By your posts it seems like you know a shitload about the place (way more than me and I have been 5 times since January last year) for someone who has never been, but you still have more questions about the place as well as individual girls. You said you would go last November, but I guess that never happened so now it is back to more questions?

[Mr Enternational]

I'll be visiting MDE next month. I'd like to know more about this bus.

After you pass out of immigration and go outside there will be 2 green and white buses. One goes to San Diego and the other goes to centro. The people going to Poblado take the San Diego bus then take a taxi from there. The people going downtown take the centro bus and get off at the last stop, which is in front of the bus company's office and behind the Nutibara Hotel. 9000 pesos.

[Iguana Six]

I arrived in Medellin Friday night and took the usual bus downtown for 9k pesos. I have never seen the bus leave the airport and not be full, but this time it was only half full.

I'll be visiting MDE next month. I'd like to know more about this bus.

[Dellorto]

I arrived in Medellin Friday night and took the usual bus downtown for 9k pesos. I have never seen the bus leave the airport and not be full, but this time it was only half full. I met another monger on the bus who is retired and said he would be staying about a month. He is staying at a popular downtown hotel where I know other guys who pay $125/month stay. I rattled off some names and he knew the same guys.

Must feel good to arrive in Medellin like you did. This popular downtown hotel you are talking about, which one is that (pm)?

[Mr Enternational]

I arrived in Medellin Friday night and took the usual bus downtown for 9k pesos. I have never seen the bus leave the airport and not be full, but this time it was only half full. I met another monger on the bus who is retired and said he would be staying about a month. He is staying at a popular downtown hotel where I know other guys who pay $125/month stay. I rattled off some names and he knew the same guys.

When we got off the bus I peeked up the street and it appeared Barra and Maracaibo were closed. As a matter of fact downtown looked like a ghost town. No worries for me though because my girl was already in the room waiting. I had to make a brief stop by the front desk so the lady could copy my passport for immigration purposes.

When I got to the room I was ready to fuck. My girl said that we would have to wait until midnight because it was Good Friday. It was only 10:30. I told her enough with the superstitous shit. Soon we were doing the horizontal rumble and were off to sleep. I woke up at 5am to her sucking my dick and soon after we were asleep again.

I thought we would be out doing things Saturday but she only wanted to lounge in the room. She even sent me to breakfast alone and had me bring something back for her. We stayed in the room all day fucking and watching TV. My girl even brought Vaseline because she wanted to try anal for the first time. There was no hope in getting my big dick in her small [CodeWord116] chute though. We fucked so much that she started crying. I asked what was wrong and she said her pussy was sore. I asked why she would want to keep fucking if it was hurting. She said because she really wanted to be with me. I said that is fine, but don't do it to the point that you are hurting.

She did not leave the room until 8 pm when we went to the casino for dinner. From the looks of it downtown was in full swing. Now when I was dining at the casino last month with Dcfan and a couple of buddies, I did not see any women to talk to, but as Murphy's Law would have it, since I was with my girl then there were two hotties working there that I would have liked to chat up. We went back to the room and were asleep by 10.

My girl tells me that since tomorrow is Easter, we will be lucky to even find food.

Usually when I come here I am hanging out mongering with the fellas and only in the room minimum time. But let me tell you that it is hot as a mf in this room all day and night with no AC. If I ever plan on just staying with the same chick again then I will surely get an apartment so I can have more creature comforts. This place is great if you are only in it to sleep or fuck, but for chillin out it is for the birds.

[Mr Enternational]

Wake up in morning.

Morning: Head to Centro- best top 2 casas based on reviews has been I believe NEW LIFE and Zandalay and??

Are you ever really going to Medellin or are you writing a book? As early as 2009 you have been asking questions about Medellin. By your posts it seems like you know a shitload about the place (way more than me and I have been 5 times since January last year) for someone who has never been, but you still have more questions about the place as well as individual girls. You said you would go last November, but I guess that never happened so now it is back to more questions?

[Surf Looker]

Wake up in morning.

Morning: Head to Centro- best top 2 casas based on reviews has been I believe NEW LIFE and Zandalay and??

Afternoon: After getting some rest back to the casas or make an appointment with one your FB / Mansion girls or Colombian Cupid / RomanceLatina girls.

Evening: Top 3 strip clubs I believe is Fase Dos, San Diego and?

Top 3 discos for gringos to find putas. Gusto, Farenheight, Luxury Club??

After the strip club closes and after your done with your girl- Head to? I can't recall the place but I believe there is something open until 4 am or where the strip club girls go.

To.

[World Jockey]

I regard Argentinian women as the most beautiful in this hemisphere. Others may not but I am also absolutely mesmerized by Chinese women and also Italian and Ukrainian women. I consider these four to be the most beautiful on the planet.

My top would be Ethiopian, Colombian, Iranian, Japanese / Chinese / Korean (I honestly can't tell them apart by looking)/ Armenian.

I spent a couple of weeks in Medellin and I wasn't impressed with the quality of the girls at the casas, yet I saw gorgeous girls in the city, on the metro, out and about.

Is Facebook a better option to find beautiful girls? I did see a few beauties in Fase dos and La isla. I'm a face person, so no mater how perfect their body is, if the face is not gorgeous, it's a no go for me.

Where are the 10's?

I'm going back again soon. PM me if you want to share any FB contacts of gorgeous girls in Medellin.

Thanks!

No doubt the city if filled with head turners but how many casas did you visit?

What do you consider a 10? Knowing your type can help fellas lead you to a casa that has it.

Surprised you are returning considering.

Private apartment, studio on Airbnb is anywhere from $30-$60 for a nice one bedroom and some with washer and dryer and fridge. In El Poblado, LLeras.

No hassles with bringing in guest.

What are the pros of hotels. Other then room service and cleaning.

If I plan on just hanging out with a local novia or two the entire trip; who will cook and do my laundry Apartmento is cool.

However if I am doing a mongering trip something close and cheap is what's needed.

An well-educated Paisa might appreciate you using proper espanol, but the prepagos, taxistas, et al don't give a shit. For the most part, they don't use anything close to correct Spanish.

Sometimes I text and email girls I meet online and think "how is my spelling in Spanish better than yours" no doubt some is slang but I think some is just poor writing skills.

….As a matter of fact, one of them called to book it for me for my next stay at the end of the week. I am not out to try to impress a chica. They need to be trying to impress me.

"Eres grosero." LOL they sure love dropping that where you don't say or do what they want. Ja Ja.