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  1. #24489
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Maybe Mr. E will volunteer his services to take a couple of Indian guys around?



    No problem not drinking alcohol in gogo bars. Your drink will cost around 90 to 185 baht for a non-alcoholic drink and a lady drink will range from 150 to 215 baht, depending on the bar. with a 1600 baht budget per day you can see your money will not last long at all in gogo bars. Gogo bars are not cheap which is why most ISG members do not go to them often, if at all.
    For ST there are girls at beer bars you can find for say 500 bar fine, plus 1000ST, plus another min 500 baht for drinks and to have time to chat and build some kind of rapport. So, a min of 2000ST at a beer bar and about 3000 LT. But quality is all over the map at the beer bars and good looking young ones are slim pickings requiring a heck of a lot of time and work.

  2. #24488
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    This applies not only to Indians but to Farang and Asians as well. It's irrelevant if you only plan on going to a specific bar once but believe me girls notice if you bought lady drinks for anyone from a previous visit.
    With all due respect, I would submit that if you are a guy (like many older golfer type Koreans or just any fun guy) who buys multiple girls drinks and has done that on prior occasion (s) at the same go go bar, the positive attention that behavior gets is likely to be stored in a specific section of the brain's cortex vs. A poor single lonely guy who walks in, has one drink and leaves after 30 minutes. This other guy is not memorable and boring and that memory is stored in different sections of the brain because that memory has no specific associative power, since it has no 'value' . Additionally, if there are 20-30 girls in a go go bar on any specific night and say 100-150 guys are coming and going, not ALL the 20-30 girls will too remember or even try to remember EVERY single guy (50-150 of them) in that one single day who DID NOT buy a drink. It's just much associative memory overload, particularly when a girl has worked in that go go for weeks or months. BUT it is easier to recall positive memories when it is reinforced (memory overlays) multiple times by the same person or a specific ethnic group. That is how the brain receives, stores and organizes information in various DIFFERENT memory centers of the brain. Positive experiences, negative experiences, neutral experiences etc are all stored in different sections of the brain and with different " associations ". And this results in different measures of aided and unaided recall and no two girls memories will be just as good.

    Finally, if you are a guy who has been to a specific go go, say 3 times in a week, and not bought a girl a drink those times but enter a fourth time AND buy a girl a drink within say the first 5-10 minutes, all those prior memories (if any and I submit very weak recall) will be overridden by the brand new here and now memory. And, to top it all, if on the 4th visit, you also barfine a girl (vs that another guy who bought 12 drinks for 4 different girls but never bar fined a single one of them, you on the 4th visit after you barfined a girl are likely to be remembered by the girls (not all of them to be sure) and the memories of the 3 earlier visits whisked away into the far reaches of the memory as unimportant vs the newer memory. That is just how the neuroscience of the brain works. Positive experiences are stored in better / different memory areas and unimportant stuff that happens all the time is dismissed into the far reaches or sections of the.

    Brain where the organization, associative linkages and neuronal recall iis poor and inefficient.

    I know this is more than you bargained for BB, but this stuff is true and valid empirical based scientific fact.

    Neither the go go girls nor any other average human is gonna remember everything UNLESS it is memorable and has “ associative value “. They are not gonna remember ALL the guys who did NOT buy drinks. But they are much more likely to remember the guys who bought LOTS of drinks or bar fined ANY girl there in the recent past. All a guy has to do on the 3rd or 4 th time, is buy a girl a drink within the first 5-10minutes and / or bar fine a girl from there and you are much more likely to be remembered by the girls there. These other guys who did NOT buy drinks is unimportant stuff and has very low associative value for the brain. It does its thing without any of us having any clue at all and we have very little control over how memories are stored, organized and recalled based on a number of factors that our non-conscious brain ( not the same thing as unconscious or conscious) takes into consideration.

    Yes, my man, I like to study stuff and a very huge part of my travels is to observe and analyze and learn about all kinds of stuff about the brain, consciousness and neuroscience ... and more crap than 99.999999 % of the humans ever do. Lol

  3. #24487
    Quote Originally Posted by NRock  [View Original Post]
    10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there.
    Maybe Mr. E will volunteer his services to take a couple of Indian guys around?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars.
    No problem not drinking alcohol in gogo bars. Your drink will cost around 90 to 185 baht for a non-alcoholic drink and a lady drink will range from 150 to 215 baht, depending on the bar. with a 1600 baht budget per day you can see your money will not last long at all in gogo bars. Gogo bars are not cheap which is why most ISG members do not go to them often, if at all.

  4. #24486

    Pattaya Scouting Day 1.

    Hi guys,

    This is my first FR and after RTFF for quite some time, it was a big help to understand how things work in Pattaya.

    Coming to the scouting report.

    Reached LOS in the morning and straight bus to Pattaya. Checked in at hotel. Needed a sure shot session so headed to Sabai Dee at 1530 hrs and the talent was pretty much there since I went in early.

    Chose girl #159 and she didn't disappoint. 3 k+tip for the soapie. She was really pretty and the figure top notch!

    Moving on, scouted through Soi 6 after that but jonny was a bit tired after that amazing session so didn't enter any.

    Realized that Soi 6 is full of talent only till 8 pm because then you will see all the talent with some other guy.

    Scouted through WS agogos next:

    BananaBoi's scouting list helped me through:

    Baccara: They kept telling me its for members. Probably no entry for me since I'm Indian.

    Palace: Same as above. They kept saying it's full.

    Sensations: A lot of girls but hardly any stunners. They were all in their early 20's and demanded 3 k for FS ST but only HJ. Declined on the spot.

    Sapphire: There were quite a few stunners. I bought drinks for many but they told me that they are not free tonight since its a Saturday. Rate was 3 k for ST FS+BBBJ.

    Barfine was 1.5 k for the above agogos.

    I decided to go off Agogos after that.

    Went to Soi 6 again but the bars were closing and the girls had found their LT. I took a Baht bus again and reached WS. BR FLs were pretty much there and some looked good. Maybe hit up few in the next few days.

    Tried few Indian clubs. If you are an Indian, the club punters swarm you a lot but make sure you go only to Nasha because that has a lot of girls. I entered there and boy, there was a lot of talent but mostly taken.

    The night went more on scouting so didn't try barfining. Maybe will do today at Sapphire.

    In the end, since this is my first time in Patts. Watched that sex show in Playgirl, had dinner and then back to room.

    I feel that starting late on a Saturday night was the biggest mistake. I'll start early from today.

    More for tomorrow cya!

  5. #24485
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.
    I can't help you with hotels near walking street.

    So far the advice you have received is excellent.

    As far as drinks are concerned, I understand that you don't drink alcohol, but you have to understand that the bars / gogos / discos make money from selling drinks. It is good that you are willing to buy the girls drinks. If you are good with buying drinks, then you should be able to get away with buying a water or two. Again, the bars make money by selling drinks, so if you are in a place for 3 hours and buy 1 drink, that is not good for the bar.

    You are going to face racism because you are Indian, so be prepared. I have seen girls in gogos refuse to even accept a drink from an Indian guy.

    Good luck.

  6. #24484
    Quote Originally Posted by NRock  [View Original Post]
    This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.

    How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?

    My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.
    Hey bro,

    I said that I won't drink alcohol because I haven't drank alcohol earlier in my entire life. And I never said that I won't buy ladies drink in fact I made it clear in my earlier posts that I will buy ladies drink.

    And I should also clear that I an not going there just to monger but also to visit different tourist attractions.

    I know that my budget is a lot less than it should be but I think that it will motivate me to explore more of the city and I find more interest in exploring rather than just banging the chicks. As said earlier, chase is better than the catch, at least in my opinion. And thanks for the insightful information.

  7. #24483

    Sorry not sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks. I knew that we might not be able to bring a girl for LT before the booking (which I did day before yesterday) but I will be there in 4 days and prices of hotels were skyrocketing due to high season. My friend is not a monger like me and he wanted a good hotel to stay and so I had to book a good one (which raised my budget, I could have stayed in a hotel half that price if I were alone). I think I will have to do with the ST only with one of us being outside the hotel when the other one is in room with a girl. And also I think that we will take a cheap room for one night near our hotel for LT once. I am all ears for your suggestions.

    And guys could you also suggest me some good areas or clubs to explore that are Indian friendly.
    This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.

    How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?

    My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.

  8. #24482
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    On to soi 6, where I took 2 girls at once. I resented their charging me double (600) just for the one room.
    This is normal in every short time bars around the town. I had plenty of threesome in soi6 (different bars), club4, kinnaree, 007, and some bars in the Darkside and always charged a double room. If you take 3 girls you will be pay the room x3. Once in the darkside I took 5 girls and I had to pay room x5.

  9. #24481
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.
    Good decision to get another room, so that you will have a room for the each of you. On my last trip I got to know three Indian guys that actually were staying altogether in one room and I remember what kind of problems they were facing when they wanted to take back girls to their room. It was impossible because their buddies were there in the room and how fun could that have been?

    I can't answer all of your questions but at least can say something and others can fill in the remaining answers. I don't know about hotels close by to where you already booked but it shouldn't be a problem to just walk around in the area and step in to whatever hotels that will show up, and ask of prices and availability. I think that you should be able to find something by doing that.

    Personally I don't go to the Go Go clubs (those in Walking Street) because I am too happy to get girls from Soi 6 or some other (beer) bars. And actually I never pay exact attention of how much a lady drink is in Soi 6 for example, because I know that it will be reasonable anyway. If I find a girl attractive I always pay for a LD to get some time to sit with her for a while and it is a good idea that you are prepared to do the same. I think lady drinks in Soi 6 bars are something like 130 - 180 Baht, more or less. But you can ask first of course so you know how much it will be.

    There are a few bars in Soi 6 that have higher prices and I don't know the names of all those bars buy I know that Scooters and Wet Six Club are more expensive than the others. But in general, and I would say for 95% of the Soi 6 bars, prices are more or less the same and very affordable. About 95% of Soi 6 bars have short time rooms upstairs too (Scooters and Wet Six Club don't have rooms on the premises).

    And about not drinking alcohol in bars: I can tell you that it won't be a problem at all. Personally I like to be sober when being with the girls so I most of the time drink water and it is always fine of course. Do your thing and drink whatever you want and it will be just fine!

  10. #24480

    Chasing the money shot

    Honey 2 massage at 5 pm. All girls showing tits and not much else. I'm just not into tits, silicon or otherwise. A girl can have wooden tits for all I care. 3000 bat, so-called VIP girls even more expensive at 3800 bat. Beds with mirrors stupidly positioned so that they reflect nothing of the action. CBJ only. Overpriced.

    On to soi 6, where I took 2 girls at once. I resented their charging me double (600) just for the one room. Still, good session. One of the girls had an ugly face, with teeth braces like WWII tanks. She was a good responder, tight clenching pussy. I collected her Line ID for repeats.

    Had a drink at Paradise a go go at 11 pm. Didn't have the impression that the girls there were a notch above what you can intercept in the streets at this time of night.

    Stumbled upon a short African girl with a good ass on 2nd road opposite View Talay 6. Agreed on a ST tomorrow 11 am. I said let's agree on a rate. She replied 1000 bat for 1 hour. I had been prepared to accept, indeed to suggest 2000. Good thing I provoked her into talking 1st.

  11. #24479
    Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.

  12. #24478

    Haha, very funny

    Quote Originally Posted by Traveller747  [View Original Post]
    I was on Soi 6 again, when my animal instincts surprised me by choosing a 150 cm small and curvy girl; big butt, strong thighs and full tits. Soon we were in the room naked on the bed, where I received a good BBBJ. She was easy to arouse and we started in missionary. Maybe my animal instincts knew that before, but now I noticed her incredible control about her vagina muscles. In Haiti and the DomRep they call it Cocomordan: biting pussy in english. It feels like a strong grip or massage on your dick. I never had a woman before, who could do it with such perfection as this curvy girl. All I can say is that if you never had it, you definately missed something.

    She could do it in missionary as well as in doggy and the view of her big butt in combination with Cocomordan gave me an explosive climax. One should trust the animal instincts once in a while.
    I relate to you being surprised by your animal instincts. It happens to me quite often, and I learned to just trust it and go with the flow, very pleased so far.

    In the US, we refer to what you describe above as "kegel control". The Korean chicks are notorious for their ability to control their kegel muscles and exert a tight grip on junior. I personally don't care much for it, as it does not enhance my enjoyment of the session, but many other folks swear by it.

  13. #24477

    Cocomordan

    I was on Soi 6 again, when my animal instincts surprised me by choosing a 150 cm small and curvy girl; big butt, strong thighs and full tits. Soon we were in the room naked on the bed, where I received a good BBBJ. She was easy to arouse and we started in missionary. Maybe my animal instincts knew that before, but now I noticed her incredible control about her vagina muscles. In Haiti and the DomRep they call it Cocomordan: biting pussy in english. It feels like a strong grip or massage on your dick. I never had a woman before, who could do it with such perfection as this curvy girl. All I can say is that if you never had it, you definately missed something.

    She could do it in missionary as well as in doggy and the view of her big butt in combination with Cocomordan gave me an explosive climax. One should trust the animal instincts once in a while.

  14. #24476
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Hello guys,

    I am from India (Delhi), visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for the first time (was really trying to visit it for a very long time). I have RTFF from December. I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.

    P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).
    Booking a single room is a bad idea. Separate room for you and your buddy is absolutely necessary. If you tell a girl that you share a room with your buddy there is no way she is going with you to your room. You end up spending money on ST rooms which in the end will turn out to be more costly than booking separate rooms. Follow the advise of many here and don't act like a cheap charlie. Spend 8-10 K per day on food, drinks and girls and you will surely have a memorable trip. Dress in a decent manner. Shower as many times as you come back to your room or before going out. Use a good deodorant and treat the girls nicely. Be polite and always wear a smile on your face. Afterall you will be in the Land of Smiles. Enjoy and have a great time.

  15. #24475
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    It's irrelevant if you only plan on going to a specific bar once but believe me girls notice if you bought lady drinks for anyone from a previous visit.
    And then what? They won't let you bar fine them if you didn't buy any lady drinks on a previous visit? I thought one of the main reasons for mongering was that you didn't have to court chicks with meals/gifts/drinks/time, etc. You can just cut to the chase and get to fucking.

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