American Politics

[Paulie97]

Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one

Damn straight on that again! Trump truly is, is why Russia worked so hard for his election in 2016 and 2020. They obviously are much smarter than you. One YouTube out of context, Trump pronouncing Russia "ru SHA" where the aim is to mock Germany, not chastise Russia. He worked overtime sowing divisions in our alliances and was the laughing stock of Europe.

[Gino02]

Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.

Glad we agree that Trump was successful to distract Putin from invading Ukraine, which is called "Effective Diplomacy."

[Paulie97]

Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one

Trump decidedly is. Why did you choose to ignore all of these points? Do you not have any answers for them? I'll add one, Trump calling his top Vlad "genius" and "savvy" in his recent invasion of Ukraine.

As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.

As to NATO, Trump was telling his aids from the beginning that he wanted to move us out of the alliance. Each country decides for themselves what percentage of their budgets they spend on defense. NATO has no authority to tell them otherwise. This has been steadily increasing in Canada and Europe from 2014 onward. As to your Youtubes with Trump posturing about Germany and energy, yawns. There was pushback about the crowing for more defense spending in Europe, an old campaign talking point, so Trump goes with the whataboutism and the Russian energy pipelined to Europe which is a complicated historic matter that isn't solved overnight. The wean has begun though and at a substantial rate. NATO nations have never been stronger in their commitments to one another and against tyrants like Putin. Trump tried to weaken it but failed.

If you wish to answer my points, these and the ones I made previously I'll entertain it, but this is all the time I have for feeble whataboutism. He's a traitor that incited a violent insurrection based on lies and continually praised and gave comfort to our enemy Russia. There's of course more but that's the worst of it. Next step is to get him in an orange jumpsuit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-nato-ukraine/

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...asion-00010923

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/fa...-nato-remarks/

[Bearsi]

As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.

Now, do as true to form, ignore all but one or two of these points. Pick one sentence out of context and go to town repeating your same lies over again. We are all used to it by now. LOL.

I like how comrade Trump told Germany that it was inappropriate for a NATO Country to be energy dependent on Russia when the whole point of NATO was to prepare for Russia aggression and not give them billions of dollars and a pipeline.

Yes a good friend of Putin tells Germany that it needs to put more than 1% of it's GDP into NATO and not into Russia pockets making them richer.

Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one!

Trump says Germany is "controlled by Russia" at NATO meeting by CBS NEWS
Jul 11, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5MJEMHZZsI

4 years later and we get this.

Russia Has Germany 'By The Balls' On Natural Gas
Jul 25, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2f8peN-4c

Why Germany is hooked on Russian gas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMiQeS1XywA

[Paulie97]

NATO's door remains open to any Euro country. They are free to seek membership. Giving in to a tyrant's demand to exclude one named country perpetually irrespective of any desires or future qualifications is ludicrous, betrays weakness, and most of all, violates the dictates of the treaty. No one president of a country would have the authority to change it. Not to mention that a slimeball like Putin would seize on this and bring further demands. And Ukraine offered a commitment to neutrality in early negotiations if confirmed by popular vote, but this was of course rejected. That's because Russia wants it all, Ukraine's industries, farmlands, and ports.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49212.htm

At little research goes a long ways, but few on the far right here have any desire and / or ability to do it. Thus all we get is a rehashing of Tucker Carlson's loud, Russo appeasing, treasonous mouth.

[ScatManDoo]

A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists.

Close:

All democrats and independents actually know this.

[Paulie97]

Biden provoked Putin and caused Ukraine invasion (had Biden said that Ukraine will not be in NATO, there would have been no war).

You've been corrected on this lie dozens of times yet choose to keep repeating it dozens of times for months. Biden lacks the authority to do that. NATO has an open door policy and anyone is free to apply. That includes Russia. Putin knew his demands would be rejected, which all was a ruse anyway to give him an excuse to invade Ukraine and try to topple Kyiv. He didn't care about NATO anyway as he stated that he didn't mind Finland and Sweden joining. His design has been rebuilding empire as he stated many times in the past. He is 100% the aggressor and wasn't "provoked" by Biden or anyone else.

The love of democracy, something you have no respect for, is what provokes tyrants. Former USSR countries in his region tasted freedom, enjoyed it, and have asked for integration and protection. That's what Putin is scared of as he has nothing to offer but darkness and threats. He certainly doesn't want his own people desiring it, is why he controls the press.

As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.

Now, do as true to form, ignore all but one or two of these points. Pick one sentence out of context and go to town repeating your same lies over again. We are all used to it by now. LOL.

[ScatManDoo]

The true face of the left. This is why we have the Second Amendment.

It's just cheap and sleazy to say that when you've been embarrassed.

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/n...s-denmark.html

[Paulie97]

Sure enough, Canadelvis can't choose a favorite Trump "governing" disaster because there were simply too many from which to choose.

And it did not go unnoticed that he / she could not cite even one positive Trump "governing" result by the end of his disastrous 4 year so-called presidency to at least partially offset one of his many, many disasters.

Canadelvis had nothing to offer but an ad hominem. That's when you know you've made some effective arguments.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

[EihTooms]

There is little wonder why this blathering, bumbling, seriously cognitively impaired loon and his America-hating Repub lackeys only produced the worst economic, national security and foreign policy results of all time (that Joe Biden and the Dems have been historically successful at resolving over the past 18 months) had to resort to demanding Repub state reps commit election fraud and set up "fake electoral college" documents and impostors along with inciting idiot Repub mob violence in order to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and steal a re-election for himself:

'Yesterday is a hard word for me: Watch Ex-US president Donald Trump struggles to read

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/...574168402.html

There is no way the "covfefe, oranges oranges, anominus anominus, Yo! Semite, Yesterday is a hard word for me" guy, his equally numbskull appointees and fellow Repubs could possibly produce anything but the across-the-board disastrous results they always produce or to even try to produce anything else.

With their America-hating lemming supporters, they don't need to produce historically posititve, Dem-level results. Not that they have the slightest clue how or interest in producing positive results for America anyway.

That isn't what Repubs do for a living.

[Villainy]

Great report, you forgot to mention, Bidden gets in a fight with the oil Executives, when gas was at it highest price ever and we our in a recession. What a clown.

You can't spell the President's name and you express yourself below the level of a 3rd grader. Why would anyone think your opinion is worth anything at all?

[ScatManDoo]

Great report, you forgot to mention, Bidden gets in a fight with the oil Executives, when gas was at it highest price ever and we our in a recession. What a clown.

United States gas prices today dropped for the 41st consecutive day.

So, to help Dramafreak11 better understand:

We "our" seeing results.

[Elvis 2008]

Now Agent Orange, on the other hand is a totally different animal. You should know, public figures are fair game.

Besides that, I'm only repeating what he his been called in the press and media, or by ex-colleagues, ex-business partners, ex-lawyers, ex-administrators, sexual assault victims, ex-pornstars, ex-pussy grabbies and pundits have informed, reported, investigated and verified as the truth about dude's character, behavior, business reputation, integrity and conduct unbecoming.

You can call him whatever you want, and I can do the same with Bill Clinton, but Clinton was a good president and so was Trump. Carter and GW Bush were much better character wise than either Clinton or Trump but were horrible performance wise. The fact that all you can do is call him names means that he was in fact good.

You've yet to answer my question. First things first!

You seem to want me to say you only had Trump and Biden to vote for so you voted for Biden. Well, you could have voted for a 3rd party candidate or not voted at all. I was so disgusted by the candidates in 2012 I abstained from voting. I thought Obama had reneged on his promises to clean up the banks and Wall Street after voting for him in 2008. That was a mistake though because he cleaned things up more than I thought.

you love to throw around the word "douche-bag/douches". I'm pretty sure you must hold the record for the usage of this word on ISG.

Democratic douche is a term that I use to describe Democrats who turn off their brain and tow the party line. A person who voted Democrat is someone who respects the vote of someone else, and I respect them. A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists. Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means you are a Democratic douche.

It would be a douche move for me to compare GW Bush and Nixon to Obama and Clinton and say Bush and Nixon were better presidents. Similarly, it is a douche move to compare Carter to Reagan and say Carter was better.

[Paulie97]

The Soviet Era Show Trial..

You can cut out the red baiting. Rofl Add that one to the long list of logical fallacies used here. It's not a "trial" but an inquiry as the American people deserve to know what happened. No criminal charges are forwarded or even recommended. It's no different than Watergate other than that Trump and his MAGAs make Nixon and his goons look like choir boys. MAGAs were invited to the party but rather choice to whine, play the victim as usual, and throw rocks from the sidelines. I'm sure you aren't even watching the hearings but are only recycling right wingnut propaganda from online. Pitiful.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Red-baiting