Bangkok Reports

[Elmo]

Alright guys. Enough of this nonsense. Back to business.

Getting what you want from a Thai working girl can be frustrating at times. With all the horror stories on the forum such as runners, starfishes, no BBFS, no BBBJ, no CIM, no GFE, no PSE, no photos, no video, and mechanical experiences, we mongers need to be constantly be on our toes to make sure we get what we want. In this post, I will outline some sure fire ways that should get you what you want most of the time. Of course, there will be some loss causes. With these ladies, no matter what you do, how much you pay, what you say, or how you act, she will still deliver a bad experience.

BKK Dog.

Everyone wanting better service from girls should follow these important tips.

Another one: there is a saying - "treat a lady like a working girl, and a working girl like a lady. ".

I always try to treat the P4 P.S. Girls I have had nicely. If they gal is completely jaded, then nothing will work for them. I sense that and move on to ones who will appreciate being treated nicely, and usually get well rewarded for my efforts.

Have not been active for over 10 years until this just completed trip to Thailand. Will post trip reports.

[Syzygies]

LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.

I found the easy solution was to switch off PMs, in general. 555.

[Member #4591]

Thank you.

If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?

Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?

Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?

So how do you get BBFS then? How to get what you want? Check out my post.

[EihTooms]

Thank you.

If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?

Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?

Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?

Vaginal intercourse with condom is the norm in Thailand's P4P scene. Anal sex, too, of course, for those girls who allow it. It does happen on occasion that neither of you bringing a condom, or claiming not to have brought one, or neither of you mentioning it will result in the girl going ahead with BBFS+CIP anyway. Bkkdog's latest couple of overviews do a good job of covering many of the How and Why factors that can help make that happen. However, do not be surprised if doing everything "right" according to his or anyone else's recommendations on this subject still results in a girl adamantly refusing to go forward with bareback intercourse even at the point where she has spread her legs and you are poised to enter her vagina. It has certainly happened to me often enough that I rarely engage in that kind of "go with the flow and see what happens" method anymore.

More often than not these days I ask beforehand in the bar or wherever I have met the girl. The "go with the flow and see what happens" method is fine for guys for whom going BB is great but having to wear a condom is still pretty good. I am not one of those guys. For me, going BB is great but having to wear a condom means I will not be having intercourse and finishing at all. Period. Therefore, except for the very rare instances where I am so smitten by a girl that I am willing to risk paying whatever the going rate is just to wind up eating her pussy and get no satisfaction for myself tonight, I will not be engaging in a "go with the flow and see what happens" method.

Personally, I have had MUCH better success getting BBFS+CIP from go-go bargirls than with any massage shop girl in any shop at anytime, including the highly praised "PSE" shop, Tulip. Then again, I hate massage shops because I find the experience and the girls to be too mechanical and utterly lacking in sensuality and eroticism. Therefore, I very, very rarely bother wasting my time, emotion and money going to them or taking girls who work in them out on a barfine. Again, Bkkdog discusses his success rate in getting both BBFS and BBFS+CIP at those kinds of shop with a special mention of Tulip.

Getting a vasectomy was one of the best decisions of my life. I have experienced zero negative side effects from it and it has helped me to better enjoy thousands upon thousands of bareback sexual encounters without worry that I or someone else will have to pay for it with an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy.

I am not into any butt-play other than sometimes going doggie with a girl so I can enjoy the sight of her fine butt while fucking her. Oh, and squeezing and kissing her butt if so inspired. I tried anal with a girlfriend a couple of times many years ago and just wasn't all that impressed. Certainly not enough to justify the extra hassle. So the issue of anal sex, covered or BB, has never come up for me with a working girl anywhere.

[Steve 9696]

LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.

It is true people don't like to RTTF but this is only because I have to sift through so much crap to find the nuggets. If it was just summarized it would be so much easier (as you have done). However the ironic thing is if each location was concisely summarized you wouldn't really need the forum. It's a conundrum!

But anyhow your summary of Bangkok is TRULY helpful. I've only done the Soi cowboy gogos and my friend swears by Poseidon but now I see there is so much more. I think I will try the nightclubs next time. In Brazil they have nightclubs with onsite rooms (Boates) and I really liked that format.

The other thing I appreciate is your thoughts on being presentable and being a gentleman. I, like you, am completely convinced this affects service level, no matter what others say. I also believe we owe it to the girls. Theirs is one tough job. We should make it as pleasant as humanly possible for them IMO. At least that is how I approach it and hope there is a small faction that feel likewise.

[Member #4591]

Dog are you by any chance in the process of writing a how to do monger in Thailand book with some selected previews available on ISG. While a tad smug in its tone and personally of little value to me having developed my own system over the past 20 years developed my own system I have to admit it well written and an insightful look into its subject matter.

LOL. I'm not writing a book and no selected previews were taken from ISG either. Everything is based on my own experiences. I was just getting a lot of PMs and there were many questions about this stuff on the board so I took it upon myself to write it. Saves me the time of answering the thousand PMs I have. The funny thing is I still see the same questions after I posted. Nobody likes to RTFF.

[JRoberto]

How to get what you want from a working girl in BKK

A Senior's Experience in BKK

Thanks so much for your 2 recent mega posts.

I've had a couple of previous solo visits to BKK, so I worked out some of this stuff, but it's invaluable to have such a good refresher, and update on the new stuff like Thai Friendly.

Anyway, I will be in BKK for 4 days from next Thursday 29 Nov, putting some of it into practice I hope.

Again, thanks.

Rob.

[Kalle Kula]

Speaking as a man who can truthfully tell a Thai working girl in a bar or on the street that he has had a vasectomy so will not make her pregnant and has a recent negative HIV test document (from Thai Red Cross) if she wants to see it, I'd say my percentage of getting a girl to agree to BBFS+CIP (I guess we are now required to stipulate BBFS+CIP for clarification? Ok. It used to be just saying BBFS was enough) runs about 30-35%. With dating site girls or regular girls working in malls and restaurants around town it is higher, maybe more like 75%.

I don't always mention either of those factors unless it feels like it might help get a Yes from the girl. For example, last night I took a dancer with one of the top three best bodies in the place from Twisters BKK go-go bar after a single LD. In the bar she agreed to BBFS (ok, ok, BBFS+CIP! LOL) with me within a few minutes and after zero discussion about possible pregnancy or medical test documents. 1000 baht barfine and 2000 to the girl..

Thank you.

If you haven't negotiated in advance, is protected sex the norm? Or do the girls do BBFS as long as you don't bring out a condom?

Is it a different story with bargirls compared to massage girls from places like Tulips?

Has the vasectomy affected your stamina or sex drive in any way? Do you also do BB anal?

[PiedIPie]

I tried Pin recently, was slim and friendly, but her services were pretty average. Seemed to be going through motions.

I repeated Pin, the freelancer from Soi 4, the service was good this time. I joked around with her, which made the session better. The kissing was slow and better than the last time. Then I got a slow BJ followed by sex in in multiple positions. Ended it with BBBJ and CIM. Pin was very enthusiastic, even though the session was long. I would recommend her now.

[Blanquiceleste]

In my case, I only asked you a question.

LOL. This quibbling over semantics may impress a toothless hooker willing to give a BBBJ + CIM (to completion) behind a dumpster in Sanam Luang.

Why don't you move along to another website that you might understand better and makes you happier?

Does anyone else think of this statement as a harmless question?

This site is probably not the best place for you to work out your "mother" issues.

So much for asking questions only. What is this now? Oh, I know. Opinion. Haha.

[Aviator12]

Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.

BKK Dog.

Excellent post. Cudos to you Sir Dog. This is exactly my experience also after 10 years of mongering in Bangkok. Your advise might not get down well with all punters, but unless you are extremely unattractive physically, these advice will get you a long way.

[Franciscass]

Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.

Dog are you by any chance in the process of writing a how to do monger in Thailand book with some selected previews available on ISG. While a tad smug in its tone and personally of little value to me having developed my own system over the past 20 years developed my own system I have to admit it well written and an insightful look into its subject matter.

[Member #4591]

Alright guys. Enough of this nonsense. Back to business.

Getting what you want from a Thai working girl can be frustrating at times. With all the horror stories on the forum such as runners, starfishes, no BBFS, no BBBJ, no CIM, no GFE, no PSE, no photos, no video, and mechanical experiences, we mongers need to be constantly be on our toes to make sure we get what we want. In this post, I will outline some sure fire ways that should get you what you want most of the time. Of course, there will be some loss causes. With these ladies, no matter what you do, how much you pay, what you say, or how you act, she will still deliver a bad experience.

Number 1, look nice. Out with the flip flops, tank tops, running shoes, old clothes, scuffed up shoes, unkept hair, bad hygiene, bad breath, and bad odors. Use deodorant, put on cologne, and buy some decent clothes. A well dressed and well groomed man garners respect from a Thai girl. If you look healthy and successful, your chances of getting what you want will increase 10 fold. The girls will be more comfortable and less inhibited with a man like this, you will get that BBFS / CIP encounter you are hoping for. The ladies will want to spend time with a man like this. She will let you go BB, cum in her pussy, fuck her ass, give you multiple pops and so on.

Number 2, be generous. You can be generous with the ladies without being a push over. Buy lady drinks for her and a select few of her friends. Tip small amounts but do it consistently. This goes a long way. Face is very important in Thai culture. These girls become proud if they bring a good customer into the bar or massage shop. If your actions give the lady good face in front of their peers, they will reward you in the bedroom. Don't be the Keneow (stingy) customer. In the massage shop, give a big tip once and while. You will be talked about amongst the ladies. The next time you go in, your chosen lady will most likely know who you are and go the extra mile to make you happy. I love the girls who when you ask how much, they say up to you. Does anyone know why they say that? It is because you have done all the right things up to that point and they feel comfortable and secure with you to go with the flow. These girls will never ask you how much you will pay and are happy receiving a fair amount the next morning or after your session. Once, during a night of partying at Sharks in Soi Cowboy, I spent 800 Baht on 4 large pizzas for the staff and girls in the bar. Needless to say, I had a complete and 100% genuine GFE from my lady that night. Pure BBFS, CIP, CIM, and multiple pops. No mention of a condom whatsoever. On another occasion I took the girl LT from a Go Go bar to Above Eleven roof top bar. I only spent 1,500 baht on a few cocktails. Back in my room, she commented on how I was such a gentlemen and took care of her very well. Needless to say, she fucked my brains out in the room BB and let me cum in her pussy. I have a really hot 22 year old Vietnamese girl I see often. I posted about her already on ISG in the foreign working girls thread. She has to be one of the hottest Asian girls I have ever been with. More about her later but my generosity and politeness paid off in the end.

Number 3, don't get hung up on the small details and don't talk too much. Thai girls hate men who talk too much and include many details in the interaction. Go with the flow. More often than not, if you go with the flow, the condom, number of pops, BBBJ, CIM and so on will become a non- issue because the girl will genuinely be happy to spend time with you and make you happy. She will get lost in the heat of the moment and give you that true GFE or PSE session you are looking for.

Number 3, be polite. Politeness goes a long way with the ladies. Learn some of the language. Ask about their families. Open doors for them. Escort them to the toilet if you take them to the bar after you bar fine them. You will be amazed what you will get from them in the bedroom. I can just hear the skeptics now. " She is a hooker, why would you care about how she feels and what she thinks?" This is the wrong attitude to have. Most working girls do this part time and are normal girls during the day. They are real people with real feelings. If you care only about how much the encounter will cost you, then you will fail. However, if you want to get what you want and that is really important to you, follow these guidelines. Especially if you are on holidays. You want to have the best dam time you can. This will ensure your success. I often see a Vietnamese working girl here in BKK. I sometimes take her for dinner before our session. We go to a nice restaurant. I listen to her problems and give her advice. Then I take her back to my room and fuck her brains out BB and CIP. She has to be the one of the hottest 22 year old Asian girls I have been with hands down. Not an ounce of fat on her, natural see cups, and an ass to die for. She charges me 3000 Baht where others ay 5-6 K. She just told me yesterday that I know her better than she knows herself. I fucking love Asia. You can see my original post about her after our first session in the foreign working girls thread. It just got better and better every time we were together. The BBFS started in our 3rd session together.

Number four. Get them tipsy. This might seem a little dodgy and maybe you are thinking along the lines of this is taking advantage of a drunk girl. That's not the case at all. You are not making them so drunk where they lose consciousness and you fuck then BB and CIP. That's [CodeWord123] and I don't condone that at all. Just get them tipsy enough where they lose their shyness and open up enough so they feel more comfortable with you.

Finally, brush up on your dady and foreplay skills. If you give the lady excellent DATY and make her cum, in most cases, she will want to return the favor. This has been the difference between me getting BBFS or not on many occasions. For example, as the session begins, the lady places the condom beside you and her on the bed. Now the foreplay starts. You go in for DATY, after you make her cum several times, she is so caught up in the moment, she will allow you to fuck her BB and or give you that BBBJ with CIM. This works for me 80% of the time.

Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.

BKK Dog.

[EihTooms]

Ouch! Did I hurt this "senior" member's feelings? Or is this the all too familiar "come-out-swinging-big-when-cornered" response?

Either ways, I don't care. And I don't think this forum needs a mother telling us what to do.

This site is probably not the best place for you to work out your "mother" issues. In my case, I only asked you a question. I didn't order you to stop doing whatever it is you've been doing in the bathroom for so long and go clean your room.

[Ed Setra]

I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.

Excellent post, Dog. Just what the site needs every now and then to keep up to date and share info.

Should be a Report of Distinction.