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  1. #1177
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    The majority of USA currency in circulation is circulating abroad. It is America's biggest export at this stage. The last thing you want to do is call it in, at least not before all the appropriate people convert their Federal Reserve banknotes into diamonds and are keeping them in little bags they're wearing around their necks.
    We are spending 700 billion a year on interest for our debt almost 2 billion a day! If we print new money and take the central banks out of the picture then that debt can be repaid as we choose. Then we base the new money off of the power and resources of the United States. Diamonds are worth as much as crushed carbon to anyone with an IQ over 120. Gold isn't much better as it has such limited use. Platinum or Titanium are some valuable metals that will never lose their value. We must implement the change to save 680 billion a year. We can still pay the world bank 20 billion a year for a 1000 years!

  2. #1176
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Lets do a recap. Debt when Dubbya assumed office 5. 7 T, when Obama assumed office it was 10.6 T and when Trump took over it was 20T.
    Any honest individual would agree this is a bipartisan screw job. Trump is certainly not doing anything to help, but this thing has been going on well before him.
    Dubbya walked into a strong economy and proceeded to put it into meltdown with unnecessary tax cuts and unnecessary wars. Obama waked into a basket case and tuned it into a stable economy. The deficit was contracting to less than 400 b a year despite Republican refusal to raise taxes. Trump was generating $1 T a year deficits in a strong economy. Now they are running hundreds of billions a month with no plan to address it.

  3. #1175
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    Nate Silver in 2016 gave Trump a 29% chance of beating Hillary Clinton. How professional and reliable was that?
    Russia rigged the vote.

    There really was more people that voted for Hillary.

    (Hope no one takes me seriously).

  4. #1174
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    That the gov is doing it for corporations is the ultimate rationalization of your mindset. You are basically questioning the fundamental tenets of capitalism having benefitted in its busom for decades. Sad.
    You travel and monger today purely because you are from a country that has succeeded in capitalism.
    Sorry to have challenged you beyond your capacity. Yes, it is the bank that issued the Visa / Mastercard that must not be denied their interest payments. And it is the banksters who are the donor class the politicians work for. Put money into the pockets of the flyover country and inner city citizenry and that money (either in cash or via credit card) soon finds its way to McDonalds, Home Depot, Target, and the rest of them. These corporations are then able to pay their management and reward their shareholders. The Money-Go-Round, get it? Take away credit from the ever-increasing rabble and what do you have? Answer: quick and hard descent to Revolution.

  5. #1173
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterMonger  [View Original Post]
    26 Trillion in national debt in the US solved in 30 days. Tell people To transfer all their money into private banks then after 30 days close all central banks and sister banks. Collect all the cash from the people and give them new money printed directly by the US government at an equal rate. Then return all the money printed by the federal reserve back to the federal reserve. Any outstanding debt offer the world bank repayment over 1000 years at 0% interest rate!
    A debt that can't be repaid, won't be repaid. Economics 101, Day 1.

    The majority of USA currency in circulation is circulating abroad. It is America's biggest export at this stage. The last thing you want to do is call it in, at least not before all the appropriate people convert their Federal Reserve banknotes into diamonds and are keeping them in little bags they're wearing around their necks.

  6. #1172
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    The creditor class are the ones with the shit entitlement mindset. Any money put into the hands of The People is so that Visa / Mastercard can continue to get their interest payments. The corporations must have customers. Banks and rentiers must be paid in order to remain whole and keep the system from collapsing. What we have is socialism for the rich and capitalism for everybody else.
    What are you talking about? The level of ignorance astonishes me. First Visa and mastercard are like tollroads, they don't collect interest. The banks do. Next traveling on the toll road is discretionary, and you blame the road instead of the person who made the choice to do so. Cash still plenty avaiable last I checked.

    Finally these companies can sell their products anywhere. If you do not like coke, do not drink it, the african laborer will gladly take ypur place. If you don't buy and they can't sell anywhere then the company can go eat crow. What gives you the god given right to x or y product? Its the definition of an entitlement mindset. That the gov is doing it for corporations is the ultimate rationalization of your mindset. You are basically questioning the fundamental tenets of capitalism having benefitted in its busom for decades. Sad.
    You travel and monger today purely because you are from a country that has succeeded in capitalism.

  7. #1171
    Quote Originally Posted by GDreams  [View Original Post]
    Trump is a bankruptcy expert. What do you think you get when you cut taxes and increase spending?
    Lets do a recap. Debt when Dubbya assumed office 5. 7 T, when Obama assumed office it was 10.6 T and when Trump took over it was 20T.
    Any honest individual would agree this is a bipartisan screw job. Trump is certainly not doing anything to help, but this thing has been going on well before him.

  8. #1170

    Broken System

    It isn't who is the president that is the problem. They have all done horrific crap! The problem is the whole system.

    First, eliminate all political parties and let politicians fend for themselves as individuals. Next, eliminate all campaign contributions and any candidate or politician accepting any money from any source outside of the Government will be charged with treason. Finally the government will provide free advertising distributed in equal proportion on a television channel running only political ads 24 hours a day and also offer the same service on all social media platforms and a website. If a person wants to become a politician but still can't afford the campaign they can anonymously crowd fund through the government run website that is providing the free advertising. The money can only be used to cover expenses related to the campaign such as offices, phone lines, hotels and venues, which will be reimbursed from their crowd funding accounts when the government is presented with receipts. Any additional money after the campaign goes back to the government to help pay for the free advertising and other services.

    News is a bit more difficult, the problem is money. We need to create tax funded Newspapers and Television news stations that are run by publicly elected officials that also face treason if they have income from "any" other source but the government. Being a politician or a government official should not be a money making venture it should be for the purpose of making the world a better place. The other news media can do what they like but the only news the people can trust will be the tax funded news outlets and all employees will be scrutinized and face treason if they are caught accepting money or lying about the news. The tax funded news media will be 100% transparent and not worry about who is the first to report the news. Tax funded news will encourage and protect whistleblowers and offer rewards for convictions related to information provided by whistleblowers.

    26 Trillion in national debt in the US solved in 30 days. Tell people To transfer all their money into private banks then after 30 days close all central banks and sister banks. Collect all the cash from the people and give them new money printed directly by the US government at an equal rate. Then return all the money printed by the federal reserve back to the federal reserve. Any outstanding debt offer the world bank repayment over 1000 years at 0% interest rate. If the World Bank refuses declare war on the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.

    Wow politics is sooo easy!

    Master Monger for President!

  9. #1169
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    With the national debt at 26 T and counting, I think that's fine. People can learn to live on 2 k / month. Its not the end of the world. If its too little in LA they can move. This shit entitlement mindset is garbage. The money printing and distribution crap needs to end, or we will all be in the toilet and sooner than you think. We were 5. 7 T in debt when dubbya took over. 26 T and counting now. Enough already.
    Trump is a bankruptcy expert. What do you think you get when you cut taxes and increase spending?

  10. #1168
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    With the national debt at 26 T and counting, I think that's fine. People can learn to live on 2 k / month. Its not the end of the world. If its too little in LA they can move. This shit entitlement mindset is garbage. The money printing and distribution crap needs to end, or we will all be in the toilet and sooner than you think. We were 5. 7 T in debt when dubbya took over. 26 T and counting now. Enough already.
    The creditor class are the ones with the shit entitlement mindset. Any money put into the hands of The People is so that Visa / Mastercard can continue to get their interest payments. The corporations must have customers. Banks and rentiers must be paid in order to remain whole and keep the system from collapsing. What we have is socialism for the rich and capitalism for everybody else.

  11. #1167
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Being the incumbent is a huge advantage, that and Trump's willingness to do whatever it takes to avoid losing means its going to be close.

    Following is from Nate Silver's Five thirty Eight, recognized by most professional in the polling business as independent and reliable. I recommend visiting the site, lots of interesting stats.

    "That, in a nutshell, is why the FiveThirtyEight presidential election forecast, which we launched today, still has Trump with a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College, despite his current deficit in the polls. This is considerably higher than some other forecasts, which put Trump's chances at around 10 percent."
    Nate Silver in 2016 gave Trump a 29% chance of beating Hillary Clinton. How professional and reliable was that?

  12. #1166
    Bottom line. People will vote to protect and / or to further their interests. That is the bottom line. The majority of Electoral College delegates will elect the winner. That is the system.

    I personally believe the silent majority will come out and re-elect Trump. Trump voters will not be shouted down. Most Americans are appalled at the lawlessness rioters and do not support defunding the police. Rioters, gutless mayors and governors have made it easier to vote for Trump than for Biden.

    The thought Biden will be beholden to Bernie's far left agenda is enough to scare enough voters over to Trump's side. The lesser of two evils.

    I doubt if there will ever be a Boy Scout as a presidential candidate. Voting will always be for the lesser of two evils.

  13. #1165
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    Yesterday the Republican controlled Senate recessed without passing any covid relief legislation.

    Unemployed people in California will not get the extra $600 on top of their weekly state unemployment benefits.

    I was on unemployment one summer in 1983 or 1984 back when California's maximum UI benefit was IIRC $451 a week.

    My understanding is that California's UI top benefit today is close to what it was 37 years ago when I received it for around two or three months when I was in my 20's.

    Back on May 15th the Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the Heroes Act that would have provided the extended Covid relief that the Senate could not get their act together for this week, before adjourning.

    Senate leader Mitch McConnell would not allow the Heroes Act to come up for a vote or even discussion in the Senate.

    Yesterday Mitch McConnell said that between 15 to 20 senate Republicans would not vote for and coronavirus relief bill.

    Senate leader Mitch McConnell essentially refused to allow 48 Democrats and around 35 Republicans see if 51 of them could agree to prevent unnecessary hardship to fall on 32 million Americans currently collecting unemployment.
    With the national debt at 26 T and counting, I think that's fine. People can learn to live on 2 k / month. Its not the end of the world. If its too little in LA they can move. This shit entitlement mindset is garbage. The money printing and distribution crap needs to end, or we will all be in the toilet and sooner than you think. We were 5. 7 T in debt when dubbya took over. 26 T and counting now. Enough already.

  14. #1164
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    As of today, his chances are around 40%. It all depends on how much worse things get between now and election day.

    I do agree - It will NOT be a landslide for Biden, as most pundits are predicting.

    ~BKKguru.
    Being the incumbent is a huge advantage, that and Trump's willingness to do whatever it takes to avoid losing means its going to be close.

    Following is from Nate Silver's Five thirty Eight, recognized by most professional in the polling business as independent and reliable. I recommend visiting the site, lots of interesting stats.

    "That, in a nutshell, is why the FiveThirtyEight presidential election forecast, which we launched today, still has Trump with a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College, despite his current deficit in the polls. This is considerably higher than some other forecasts, which put Trump's chances at around 10 percent."

  15. #1163
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    You've got to avoid it for another four, he's going to be re-elected.
    As of today, his chances are around 40%. It all depends on how much worse things get between now and election day.

    I do agree - It will NOT be a landslide for Biden, as most pundits are predicting.

    ~BKKguru.

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