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08-24-19 23:10 #7270
Posts: 5466Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
The whole "all Venezuelans" stuff is pure garbage.
I haven't had experience with all Venezuelans yet. I guess I have some catching up to do. I did have experience with 1 Venezuelan. The first 2 times I was trying her out as a webcam model. She had potential. If she'd known some English, she would have done well. The third meeting with her she said she didn't want to do the webcam, but she would be happy to earn the money making it up to me. We spent about 2 hours just talking, working into a bit of foreplay, which became an excellent, long session. If I wasn't busy with everything else, I'd have gotten around to a few more dates.
Plenty of time went by and she hit me on Whatsapp. Chatted a bit. Told her my current situation, she told me hers. After that she checked in a few more times. Never asked for anything, never mentioned any problems.
Hit her up again in June, to let her know I'd be back in July. She was in Venezuela, but hoping to get back to Medellin before I arrived. No request for money, no sob story. Told me what she was working on and that was all. Once I was on the ground I checked in again and learned she hoped to be in Medellin while I was there.
She arrived, let me know and we set up a date to see a movie. I paid for a coffee. I offered to pay for a beer, she declined. I paid for the movie and I had my taxi drop her where she's staying, on my way home.
The next day she called to ask for a favor. I was expecting she would finally ask for money. Instead, she asked if she could use the apartment to take some pictures. She showed up, paid her own taxi and I took some pics and video of her. We chatted for a while. I wasn't feeling a strong urge to get her into bed, she wasn't feeling it either, so I walked her out, flagged down a taxi and said goodbye.
We're still in contact. When I return, we'll probably get together again. Maybe another movie, maybe dinner, or maybe she'll be spending the night with me. The one thing I'm certain she won't do is turn into a gold digger.
She also seems to have had no problems learning capitalism. She's been paying her own way. When I met her for the movie I had to wait while she bought a new Samsung A50 at the Claro store. She even offered to pay for the coffee.
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08-24-19 20:34 #7269
Posts: 35Bogota Sunday and Monday night
How's the scene in Santa Fe and Chapinero on Sunday and Monday night?
Going next week but only have time those nights, 9/1 and 9/2.
Santa Fe is always better not alone, so looking for a wingman. I want to try la 49 as well given the recent good reports.
I'm young and like to party / drink, I'm fluent in Spanish.
Hit me up if I'm Bogota those dates.
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08-24-19 19:25 #7268
Posts: 413Tall man / cucuta
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08-24-19 18:16 #7267
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 17:15 #7266
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 16:49 #7265
Posts: 9Hello ISG,
Last night was a very fun night, we went to Pasarela Club and had a very fun moment, prices are as the regular clubs in Santa Fe, but this club is in 49 and Caracas, there are three more clubs.
The amazing thing of the night was discovering the night club Fourty Nine, because it is awesome, I would say that is the best club I have been in Bogota, it has really nice VIP section, nice very nice girls, and a lot of other places inside it that it makes you feel that you are not in Bogota, well I hope you have the opportunity to come.
Johny V.
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08-24-19 16:09 #7264
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
The sad part is I can today see an American politician read the above story, stroking his chin saying, "Hmmm, not a bad idea."
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08-24-19 15:28 #7263
Posts: 3234YK,
I get you guys are trying to be helpful, but the cynicism you and me show towards women is pretty incredible. I don't regret my relationship with my fiance it all. There is something to be said for wanting to lay in her arms all night versus just fuck, the special way a woman in love looks at you. I have been cynical too. I didn't think I could fall in love again, didn't think it was in me to want to be monogamous with someone again, but I did. We were together for 2 years. What broke us up was that she didn't understand how free markets were. This company she "worked" for was very slick, but that is all they were, and she, being from a socialist country, fell for a multilevel marketing scheme that I doubt she would have fell for if she lived in a capitalist country. People from Venezuela are different because of what they have been told, what they have seen, and you can talk to the average Colombian about Venezuelans, and they will share their views which are practically identical to mine.
It's different than when the USSR fell and Russian women stormed the scene in the late 1990's. Those women were kept in the dark, but it is similar in that Venezuelans have to learn the rules of capitalism. They come from a country where they see people eating out of the trash, leaders who derided capitalism but stuffed their pockets full of cash. The American Dream doesn't exist in Venezuela. If you work hard, had a long term perspective, and provided solutions in the market place, you were a sucker. The government would steal you blind. The people who got rich in Venezuela are / were self serving drug dealers and thieves. That affects people. My gal thought this multilevel marketing shit was going to make her a millionaire, and she didn't tell me about it because she knew I was cynical of it. She still believes that she will be rich doing it BTW. I shouldn't have put the stuff in there about seeing another man. I think it was more about how she was hiding who she was from me that made her sexually frigid in the end. And you guys don't get this part. Both our families were cynical of our relationship and when they saw us together, they wanted it to work out. It wasn't just me who bought into the dream.
And the reason I posted my story was to warn people about Venezuelans. They ARE different because of what they have seen, what they have been told. I was concerned about losing my gal to another guy: a guy with rip roaring abs or one who gave her more cash. I never thought I would lose her to a con man.
I think what you guys ARE talking about is falling for a woman like this Santa Fe stripper I met. The best lay of the trip so far has been Asakira. She dances at Troya. Well, all the women move around the clubs down there, but that was the one club where we met. I invited her back to my hotel. She was up for $100 for TLN. I paid for the hotel versus in house facilities because she agreed to DFK and BBBJs OTC. She was so good in bed that a lot of guys would fall for her right there. Her BBBJ may have been the best I have ever had. The reason I am sharing her name is because outside of another roll in the hay, I am not interested in anything else with her.
I don't get the part about being with someone every day. For 18 months, there were no issues with me and my gal. If she were in a position where she could have come to the USA, it might have worked even better. I was giving her in a month what I paid a SB for a night with me. Paying for a USA Girl with her qualities for a week or two in Mexico would have cost four, maybe even five figures in the past. You can video chat for free these days and we did every week. Shit, half of the times I have bought an American woman a ticket for a trip, I have been stiffed. American women are scared of traveling for some reason. My gal loved it, and here in Colombia, every woman I have offered up a trip with has ate it up, and they have jumped at the meager amount per day I have offered. I probably am going to cut the offer in half and see what happens.
It's never easy to know how much to give. Steve Jobs said it was easier to make money than to give it away. It's tricky. You want to give enough so a woman can do anything but not enough so they do nothing. That is a paraphrased line from Warren Buffett, and I am skeptical of anyone who thinks they have the answer on how much the right amount is to give any woman.
Yes, I want to recreate what I had. I am not forcing love, but I want to be with someone with the potential for love. I am interested in seeing a Colombian woman for a week vacation and see what happens from there. The price is too high for quality American women. I had some of the best looking and best performing SBs you guys have ever seen: Bud Light girl, college cheerleader, a woman who was a dead ringer for a SI swimsuit model, but I never thought about getting serious with any of them. They all had a screw loose, and they want marriage for something serious. I know Hollywood talks of Romance and the hell of divorce is not talked about nearly enough. 50% of my income? Fuck that.
I have met and bedded several Colombian women now. Just because they are professionals does not mean they aren't hucksters, but it is cynical to think they are all hucksters. The best lay was the Santa Fe stripper, but the test time I had was with a 2nd grade teacher, and she was great in the sack. The woman loved sucking cock. In between her, who never even gave me a price tag, was an engineer asking for $400 a day and a lawyer who wanted $300. I kicked them both to the curb. The other one with potential for a vacation was a 19 year old who is a model / finance student. She is too young for anything serious, but she would be fun to hang with for a week. And I have more lined up. It's been a busy week.
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08-24-19 14:33 #7262
Posts: 5656Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 12:00 #7261
Posts: 175Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 01:57 #7260
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 01:11 #7259
Posts: 5466Originally Posted by YippieKayay [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 01:05 #7258
Posts: 5466Originally Posted by IronQuinn [View Original Post]
Substitute an American from Texas for his Venezuelan and I had the same experience. It hits you in the gut when you find out the woman who has been telling your whole family how much she loves you, is out shopping for a better deal. It's even worse when her mother is telling you how much her daughter loves you, while the mother is setting her up with married sugar daddies.
It's an expensive lesson to learn and money isn't the biggest cost.
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08-23-19 21:36 #7257
Posts: 1137Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
(1) Stop looking for love in foreign places. You can find it where you live. It doesn't even need to be romantic love. A good female friend is just as valuable and sufficient.
(2) All Latinas who take money from extranjeros (foreigners) to support themselves are going to have at least one, sometimes more, local guys they party with and fuck. Especially in Colombia women don't go out alone so they always need a guy to go with. Usually these guys are scumbags who mooch off the chica since you keep supporting her. Sometimes they are just weak men who can't find anyone except a prostitute to be with them.
(3) Don't talk long term or any of that shit. You don't want to be the guy I mention in point (2). You want to be the rich guy who fucks her like a champ whenever you're in town.
(4) Accept the fact that fucking and dating for short periods when you visit is all you're going to get. Everything else is just lies, pain and suffering.
Go to Colombia. Have a good time. Take some photos. When you get back you can look at the photos and remember the good times. Unless you move there that's all you should expect.
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08-23-19 21:31 #7256
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by IronQuinn [View Original Post]
Of course her family liked him if he was footing the bill for sending them all across the world. In Rio we used to say you will know how much these chicks really like you when you show up with no money. If someone is still around you when you are not paying for everything and helping them out of financial jams (those will never end) then you have a winner. But if you are always having to come out of your pocket, that is when you need to take heed.
It is easy for me to do because being a player I have probably 100 or so chicks and I am not trying to settle down like that. Imagine 100 chicks coming to me talking about needing money for a $20 electric bill or whatever. That would be 2000 damn dollars for me to give out. Not possible. But when you are concentrating on only 1 chick, the nickel and diming will slide through until either they feel they have used you enough and want to go on to suck the blood out of someone else, or you realize you have been had. In the OP's case, he had set his chick and her family up nice and it was not until she had already moved on to do her own thing when he started questioning everything.
And just like anything it gets easier with practice. It was hard the first time a chick had to ask a guy for money. But as they kept doing it, it got easier and easier to where it is just second nature and rolls off the tongue. Telling them no is the same way. It may be hard the first couple of times because you are afraid to lose out on the pussy, but as you practice it and practice it, you can do it in your sleep. One of my chicks recently asked me for money and I told her nope I did not have it. She said you never have it. I said, yet you continue to ask.