Bogota Reports

[Igor54]

You've clearly not thought about this or done any planning which is another reason why it will ultimately fail.

You mentioned previously that you want high end people (IE professionals with large disposable incomes) to frequent this "idea" but again how are you going to reach these people? Are you going round to their business and dropping of a card lmao? Are you sending them an email which will ultimately go to spam with your contact info? How actually are you going to come across these high end people without putting yourself in massive legal jeopardy? Are you buying their flight and getting their hotels? Are you expecting these people to just hand a complete stranger $$$ to arrange this? Do you regularly just hand over money to someone lmfao? Or wait. Did you plan to meet them to break the ice so they know you're a real person and you show up and get busted? When they're in Colombia are you meeting them there? So you're paying for your own flight down there too or are you charging these high income customers the cost of their flight and your flight? Or are you hiring someone to pick them up despite every common sense spidey alarm bell that goes off with every traveler when visiting Latin America of being told not to just go with a random guy that says I'm here to pick you up to take you to some girls. What if your "guy" doesn't show up to pick this customer up what are you going to do?? What happens when the flight gets delayed or cancelled? Who does the customer call?

What happens if you charge him all this money to arrange all that and he pays with a CC then to screw you over for doing something like this he disputes it for sex tourism and the CC company has your address and informs authorities? If he's down in Colombia and decides he doesn't like the trip and wants to cancel what you going to do? How much are you charging to even make this profitable? What's the benefit to someone just coming on here and buying airfare and hotel himself privately and anonymously to go on a sex trip that let's face it if it came out that your hypothetical dentist or doctor gets caught going to Colombia and paying your "tour company" his career is ruined.

All things to think about but Again, really dumb idea and it's clear you haven't put much thought into this or research and instead are hoping that others will do this for you. And kinda not wanting to be a jerk but it's clear you've not done much research of most things as you're on the Bogota forum asking how much girls are in Montreal when you only literally have to look at the 1st page of the Montreal forum here and you'll find loads of info. It's cool to ask questions but seriously take a bit of time to see if you can find an answer before asking dumb shit. I don't know why but that really pisses me off.

You are right. And I appreciate your post and your time. It's very helpful. I need your feedback. I need to know how Americans think because I am not one of them. Now I see that. Thanks to everyone who comment my post.

[Woodman09]

That is a rather dangerous area to which many locals don't dear going. There have been plenty of reports in local news and local forums of people being drugged and robbed in those clubs. MO is similar: something is put on your drink that reduces your ability to say no. Is a tea or powder made with a local plant called borrachero (borracho=drunk) and the active ingredient is called escopolamina. Then anything can happen. There have been cases of people robbed of everything and left on the street or people taking on a trip to the ATM's or even a beating for not having much to be stolen from. Murders in the area are not uncommon.

Advice is: do not go alone, do not leave your drink unattended, do not bring expensive looking stuff.

Most things I have ever heard about that place is negative from the druggings / robberies to the extortive touts-- I have never had any desire to go.

One reason probably is there is much less police presence than the downtown area.

Santa Fe has the same if not better girls.

And to the Dickhead who said grow a pair-- You Go-- Have Fun!!

[DaVinci40]

You've clearly not thought about this or done any planning which is another reason why it will ultimately fail.

You mentioned previously that you want high end people (IE professionals with large disposable incomes) to frequent this "idea" but again how are you going to reach these people? Are you going round to their business and dropping of a card lmao? Are you sending them an email which will ultimately go to spam with your contact info? How actually are you going to come across these high end people without putting yourself in massive legal jeopardy? Are you buying their flight and getting their hotels? Are you expecting these people to just hand a complete stranger $$$ to arrange this? Do you regularly just hand over money to someone lmfao? Or wait. Did you plan to meet them to break the ice so they know you're a real person and you show up and get busted? When they're in Colombia are you meeting them there? So you're paying for your own flight down there too or are you charging these high income customers the cost of their flight and your flight? Or are you hiring someone to pick them up despite every common sense spidey alarm bell that goes off with every traveler when visiting Latin America of being told not to just go with a random guy that says I'm here to pick you up to take you to some girls. What if your "guy" doesn't show up to pick this customer up what are you going to do?? What happens when the flight gets delayed or cancelled? Who does the customer call?

What happens if you charge him all this money to arrange all that and he pays with a CC then to screw you over for doing something like this he disputes it for sex tourism and the CC company has your address and informs authorities? If he's down in Colombia and decides he doesn't like the trip and wants to cancel what you going to do? How much are you charging to even make this profitable? What's the benefit to someone just coming on here and buying airfare and hotel himself privately and anonymously to go on a sex trip that let's face it if it came out that your hypothetical dentist or doctor gets caught going to Colombia and paying your "tour company" his career is ruined.

All things to think about but Again, really dumb idea and it's clear you haven't put much thought into this or research and instead are hoping that others will do this for you. And kinda not wanting to be a jerk but it's clear you've not done much research of most things as you're on the Bogota forum asking how much girls are in Montreal when you only literally have to look at the 1st page of the Montreal forum here and you'll find loads of info. It's cool to ask questions but seriously take a bit of time to see if you can find an answer before asking dumb shit. I don't know why but that really pisses me off.

You are right, but to compline with the law. It's just a technical issue. 1) Tours to Bogota is one business. = security + woodman's excursions to SF, etc (but on high level scale). 2) The girls is another business. Example: the girls can be independent sellers on a website (as they work in SF or casas (no pimping).

Please comment, Thanks.

[Ryck II]

I was on the south recently on a Friday night, in a date with a seeking girl. I wanted to go dancing and we went to a salsa club at 11 PM but it was totally empty. It was dissapointing. So we went out and saw a night club similar to those in SF and it had many working girls dancing with customers. Which seemed really fun, with a great vibe. I asked my date if she was ok going there and she said sure. Let's go inside!

The place name is Azafatas VIP and is located exactly here: https://goo.gl/maps/K2iXUcb6sQ3dwddt9.

My seeking date turned out to be a webcammer girl in the past. So she was not shy at all. She was very happy dancing together with the working girls and customers. Many men thought she worked there and kept asking for her rate. Everybody thought we were a couple.

Lap dance is 40.000. Sex for 15-20 minutes is 90.000.

There was one 22 yo, 170 cm tall, nice ass and natural tits venezuelan hottie who kept looking at us. I approached her and told her to come over and dance with us and she said she didn't want to because I was together with another girl. I told her she was not my girlfriend. She came when I bought her a Smirnoff beer (20.000). I also hired her for a lap dance. And in the end, fucked her. The rooms are very crappy I think SF rooms are a bit better.

After I fucked her I wanted to leave, it was already 3 AM but my seeking date didn't want to leave yet. So she called another working girl to come dance with me to keep me distracted. This was another level dance. And I ended up french kissing and tits / ass grabbing her while dancing and kissing. It worked well to keep me distracted to be honest.

We ended up staying until 6 AM when the place closed. It was great to see all the working girls in their regular clothes getting out to catch a bus to go home. I kissed goodbye to Jhoselyne, my venezuelan girl in her normal clothes and went home to sleep with the seeking girl.

Overall a great experience. In terms of quality of the girls and the rooms though, I think SF is a bit better. I only saw 2 working girls I'd pay to fuck. The club itself was much better than those in SF. And there were many more clubs in the same street, similar to SF too.

That is a rather dangerous area to which many locals don't dear going. There have been plenty of reports in local news and local forums of people being drugged and robbed in those clubs. MO is similar: something is put on your drink that reduces your ability to say no. Is a tea or powder made with a local plant called borrachero (borracho=drunk) and the active ingredient is called escopolamina. Then anything can happen. There have been cases of people robbed of everything and left on the street or people taking on a trip to the ATM's or even a beating for not having much to be stolen from. Murders in the area are not uncommon.

Advice is: do not go alone, do not leave your drink unattended, do not bring expensive looking stuff.

[Aureliano16]

Stopped by the (original?) Absolut location on Cra. 16, near closing time on a recent Sunday.

The girl who answered the door was the one available, not sure if they have a line-up normally or if it's the kind of place where the next girl up takes the next customer.

She was 25 yo, heavy silicone up top, natural bottom. Pretty cute right around a 7. 5 depending on my mood. I saw 3-4 other girls around the property who were all 6. 5-7. 5. A couple of other customers.

She quoted several prices but massage + FS was 330 K. I think an hour, but there was no clock watching.

They have a pricing chart w / the add-on fees for using a credit card. It would have been 370 ish to use a card.

Pretty comfortable room with multiple mirrors so you can also watch the action. She actually started with a decent 10-15 minutes massage which I enjoy.

Multiple positions, but no kissing. Passive but not holding back.

Note the spa's Google Maps location is accurate. It's the unmarked building next to the restaurant.

Speaking of restaurants, now that you've worked up an appetite, one of Bogota's concentrations of dining is just a block or so away-- lots of options to make a night of it.

Not the cheapest and maybe I could have bargained, but easy is nice sometimes. Decision fatigue you know.

No complaints but wouldn't repeat at this price. But I would stop by Absolut again for the convenience.

I don't travel for the hobby much these days but though an actual report would do the forum good. Happy mongering.

You went on one of the worst days for mongering (Sunday). If you'd have gone on a weekday you'd have found several girls in the "presentacion".

I went there on a Thursday night at about 6 PM and there were like 10 girls available. A couple of 8's and 9's.

Booked Isabella which was really good looking, a very well made breast surgery (doesn't look so fake as some I've seen in SF). At the end she told me to save her number to go out some day. I messaged her to go out the next day (Friday) but as usual with the colombians, she flaked.

After the fact, I found a very familiar picture (it was definitely her) in a prepagos website. And she was charging 650 k for 1 hour as a prepago. In absolute I paid 320 k for her.

[MaddTraveler]

Technical complying with the laws of Colombia may not help you all that much. You are a foreigner there, and if they charge you with something (rightly or wrongly in your opinion) you can spend a couple of years in jail just waiting for your case to be heard. You are not innocent until proven guilty. You are presumed guilty if there is sufficient evidence for them to charge you.

And clowns that flaunt their sex vacations such as recently happened in Medellin make the chances of being charged with something a lot higher. They really hate foreigners that in any way promote sex tourism to their country, and this allows them to take it out on someone. You don't want to be that target.

Either some people have no clue or could it be greed? I called this post out few days ago mentioning exactly what you said but it got deleted. So this time I'll use nicer words LOL.

It's probably better to not take these types of posts seriously, especially when no due diligence is applied and you can tell no research is done. We're living in the info-age yet people refuse to use even a simple tool like Google.

Because if they did, they'd read the countless nightmare stories of which many are mentioned also in this forum, how poorer countries especially in Latin America do not treat foreign own biz the same as they do the local's.

You're there and tolerated when you come to spend, or if you blend in, period. The moment you try to outshine a local, outdone other businesses in that area, then you become a target.

Promoting or even hinting sex tourism is only one of many potential problems.

I've seen it happen over and over, assets seized, deportation, and yes you're always guilty first and by the time you get a trial it's been 5 years in prison, if you survive that long in there. There are very well documented cases of this happening in.

DR, CR, COL, and it's funny cause there are successful foreign businesses like restaurants, stores, hotels, bars etc. I personally know many owners.

Whereas the ones that are constantly being shut down or facing troubles, seizure or raided are the tourism / guide / sex / brothel ones, etc.

Anything remotely in that area you're guaranteed to eventually get set up or worse. Not preaching to anyone as we'll all grown to do what we want, so who cares?

Just some fun FYI, in a Latin jail you'll sleep on bare concrete, on the piss and who know what else on the floor, and let's not even imagine you're guaranteed on making a lover in there not by choice, his name is Papi Toto.

Lots and lots of fun is what you can look forward to.

[Zeos1]

You are right, but to compline with the law. It's just a technical issue. 1) Tours to Bogota is one business. = security + woodman's excursions to SF, etc (but on high level scale). 2) The girls is another business. Example: the girls can be independent sellers on a website (as they work in SF or casas (no pimping).

Please comment, Thanks.

Technical complying with the laws of Colombia may not help you all that much. You are a foreigner there, and if they charge you with something (rightly or wrongly in your opinion) you can spend a couple of years in jail just waiting for your case to be heard. You are not innocent until proven guilty. You are presumed guilty if there is sufficient evidence for them to charge you.

And clowns that flaunt their sex vacations such as recently happened in Medellin make the chances of being charged with something a lot higher. They really hate foreigners that in any way promote sex tourism to their country, and this allows them to take it out on someone. You don't want to be that target.

[Rumpus]

Stopped by the (original?) Absolut location on Cra. 16, near closing time on a recent Sunday.

The girl who answered the door was the one available, not sure if they have a line-up normally or if it's the kind of place where the next girl up takes the next customer.

She was 25 yo, heavy silicone up top, natural bottom. Pretty cute right around a 7. 5 depending on my mood. I saw 3-4 other girls around the property who were all 6. 5-7. 5. A couple of other customers.

She quoted several prices but massage + FS was 330 K. I think an hour, but there was no clock watching.

They have a pricing chart w / the add-on fees for using a credit card. It would have been 370 ish to use a card.

Pretty comfortable room with multiple mirrors so you can also watch the action. She actually started with a decent 10-15 minutes massage which I enjoy.

Multiple positions, but no kissing. Passive but not holding back.

Note the spa's Google Maps location is accurate. It's the unmarked building next to the restaurant.

Speaking of restaurants, now that you've worked up an appetite, one of Bogota's concentrations of dining is just a block or so away-- lots of options to make a night of it.

Not the cheapest and maybe I could have bargained, but easy is nice sometimes. Decision fatigue you know.

No complaints but wouldn't repeat at this price. But I would stop by Absolut again for the convenience.

I don't travel for the hobby much these days but though an actual report would do the forum good. Happy mongering.

[MarquisdeSade1]

That's one of the reasons I've decided to venture out and try out other countries. Montreal was always a safe / comfort zone for me. Things are getting pricey real quick.

Its been at least 20 yrs since I've mongered there and it was overpriced then.

I remember sws on Rue St Denis & Mozart were asking $100 usd and it was -30 F outside.

Yet they were still out there in miniskirts and thigh high boots LOL.

I still miss the vibe of Montreal espec on a Sat night, kinda reminds me a really really really run down Moscow LOL.

[Gtraol]

Everything about Montreal's "adult" events can be found at https://merb.cc/ . For some reason, the hotels are costing an arm and a leg these days.

That's one of the reasons I've decided to venture out and try out other countries. Montreal was always a safe / comfort zone for me. Things are getting pricey real quick.

[JjBee62]

Hi everyone,

I wonder, why people don't do something like " Bachelor trip" business"?

Considering:

1) The colombian prices for sex.

2) Girls attitude, low feminism level, age, etc. For a reasonable price you can see as many girls as you want.

3) I lived in Moscow, now in Toronto and well traveled. In my opinion, it's very hard to find colombian level of service in North America. If you need a quality girl+ age, her attitude, etc.

4) North America sites and casas: mostly high volume aged girls who look for local pappies with low expectations or the price is very high.

5) and by sex business I mean. , There are many professionals and self employed or business owners who are tiered to see their low quality feminist wives.

6) As we understand, some reach people can get more life / girl / sex experience in Santa Fe or around the city (3-5 days) than in their entire life. As soon as they get that eye opening experience some of them could become = long term clients..

Because for every paying customer you get you will have 30 who are just going to waste your time. I've tried to help a few people out by helping to set up everything for a bachelor party in Colombian. Even though I was doing it for free, each one made it an enormous pain in the ass and then canceled at the last minute leaving me to deal with several angry women who had been expecting to get paid.

Then there are the legal issues.

[Igor54]

Besides, going to get a hooker is not brain surgery. No such thing as high end, only high price. You think the first time a chick turns to hookering she is selling pussy for extreme amounts of money? No. They are cheap as shit and they spend some of their earnings on fancy clothes, fancy hairdo, fancy purse, fancy shoes, maybe surgery. Then all of a sudden they are high end.

Also who wants to end up like Cuba Dave, David33, etc.

You are right, but to compline with the law. It's just a technical issue. 1) Tours to Bogota is one business. = security + woodman's excursions to SF, etc (but on high level scale). 2) The girls is another business. Example: the girls can be independent sellers on a website (as they work in SF or casas (no pimping).

Please comment, Thanks.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Besides, going to get a hooker is not brain surgery. No such thing as high end, only high price. You think the first time a chick turns to hookering she is selling pussy for extreme amounts of money? No. They are cheap as shit and they spend some of their earnings on fancy clothes, fancy hairdo, fancy purse, fancy shoes, maybe surgery. Then all of a sudden they are high end.

Also who wants to end up like Cuba Dave, David33, etc.

Yuge Congrats.

#1 ISG quotable quote of 2022=No such thing as high end, only high price.

High Price pussy aka high mileage pussy.

[Mr Enternational]

I am guessing you mean: why hasn't someone started a travel agent style business that advertises to high end people for sex tours to Colombia under the guise of it being a business trip? .

Besides, going to get a hooker is not brain surgery. No such thing as high end, only high price. You think the first time a chick turns to hookering she is selling pussy for extreme amounts of money? No. They are cheap as shit and they spend some of their earnings on fancy clothes, fancy hairdo, fancy purse, fancy shoes, maybe surgery. Then all of a sudden they are high end.

Also who wants to end up like Cuba Dave, David33, etc.

[Mtljay]

I'd highly recommend Montreal also. Seems like when I was there back in July. The rates at most agencies were anywhere from $240-$280 CAD depending in the woman.

Everything about Montreal's "adult" events can be found at https://merb.cc/ . For some reason, the hotels are costing an arm and a leg these days.