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  1. #13974

    Not the same

    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Just speaking as a first impression, a big factor could be the pretty consistent wannabee soundcloud rapper fuck boi that was there while I was. Too many dudes trying to flex and act like they're the shit because they're surrounded by average looking hookers.

    Some examples:

    Dude #1 - black dude in the hotel went up to reception "Whats your most expensive room?" proceeded to pay cash "can you guys bring some girls up" staff told him to go downstairs and pick them himself. Dude honestly sounded to pussy too pull the girls himself.

    Dudes # - both nights, several dudes throwing stacks of singles on stage at hella ugly girls just simply doing some ass shaking w / their panties on. Felt worse than a fuckin USA strip club.

    Dudes # - buncha horny ugly bros obviously overpaying for average / below average looking girls driving the price in general up. Or maybe girls could tell it was my first time? Hence I got quoted $150, $120 by 2 separate girls? Seemed like you'd really have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to get anything less than $100. But again, just my initial impression..
    Phazze I liked your report and how you handled everything. It's hard to be in a foreign land and you don't want to cause a scene with what happened with the scam thing in HK. Just for future reference to you and others that read this. If you ever have an issue with a waiter or girl trying to get you to buy something you didn't order just ask to speak to the captain. He is in charge of the waiters and knows all the scams they try to pull. They are more inclined to be on your side than the girls or waiters.

    As others have mentioned just take it slow with a girl that you have chemistry with. Maybe just start out going to dinner and drinking in Tijuana. If you have fun I'd move on to a short getaway. The problem now is that the summer is over and the beaches aren't to warm in the fall. But if you just want to walk on the beach you have lots of options. In Ensenada the have a beach called "Playa Estero" it's a little out of the city but many houses to rent that are right on the beach. It's very laid back and beautiful sunsets while walking in the beach. Only downside is that if you want food you have to go into town or bring your own and cook.

    The changes in HK and the zone in general don't make it fun anymore. That's why I prefer just to fly to other parts of Mexico and get away from the guys acting like they are all that in the Zona. I think of the line in Casino when he is talking about the new Las Vegas and dealers not knowing your name or waiting for a watered down drink. The girls change so often it's hard to find a girl to hang with. Luckily I still have at least meseros and management that know me but that doesn't help when I want to be intimate.

  2. #13973
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I have yet to encounter a lady requesting more than $100 for their time unless it is for extended sessions. I agree some nights are completely off regarding talent as you never know who is in town or if they are with other clients. I hate to eye them down when they are sitting with another bro. I sometimes throw dollars or tip ladies dancing on the poles. I usually throw more if they are giving an acrobatic performance and most of the ladies that do give exceptional dance performances aren't my type or don't have the looks I'm after. You cant expect magic city ATL level twerking and ass claps, but some will do and at least you won't have blue balls afterwards. Also the USA Strip clubs I've been to didn't allow touching and in Tijuana I mostly have my mouth on titties and a hand rubbing a wet kitty.

    Not sure where I'd find that kind of establishment in the USA I'm an equal opportunity monger and find beauty in all races, but have preference for Asians as well even though I was married to a Latina. Now since I don't have the time or opportunity to travel half way across the world, the Latinas have turned it on me for at this moment in time. You might want to try another day around 10-11 pm. It is hit or miss and sometimes I walk out if nothing interesting depending on if I settle. That is why I prefer to have a rotation of regulars as they travel a lot for family or vacation and never know who is in town. The variety is also great as I've met Colombians and Venezuelans. They come in all shapes and sizes, but prefer cute spinners and lately been seeing tall naturals. Either way, if it isn't worth your time or money, then sure other destinations will be opening up soon. I'll keep going until it isn't fun anymore.
    Many USA clubs allow touching especially if you buy the lap dances. Before Tijuana so 6 years ago, I would go to ft Lauderdale Hollywood Florida clubs. The lap dances were much better than Hong Kong. Not even close. And 20 bucks. Some in north or mod Florida were 10 before covid. Even San Diego in lap dance room in point loma area the dances are good. It's just the idea of a strip club in USA turns me off now. I also need to be far away from my car when drinking so Mexico helps with that. "The block" in Baltimore, is a very interesting street of strip bars. Got the same danger level as Tijuana, a single white guy will stand out a bit but all the girls and staff will be happy to see you. And although I only went in 2 clubs, one was set up like Hong Kong. Stage, sit at stage, and every 3 minutes another girl coming to dance all over me while I'm in the stool. I only gave them 2 bucks each but they kept coming. No begging for my money like Hong Kong. Unfortunately lap dances were a lot of money in Baltimore so I didn't do any.

  3. #13972
    Quote Originally Posted by KoolBeans  [View Original Post]
    I've experienced the same where we woke up around 10 am and she had to go back to club and change into civvie clothes and cash out her drink tickets. We then met up at Azuls and she was wearing some gym clothes and looked completely different.
    I really like seeing the girls in their normal clothes. One girl I hooked up with met me in my Cascadas room for a 1/2 HR session. When we communicated trying to define the time to meet she asked me if I wanted her in makeup or not. I said no. And it was really nice. She did look different but her body was smokin' so it was great to see her.

    Also had a laugh with Ketzal from HK last weekend as she was about 2 inches taller than me in her heals until she got in the room and she was all of a sudden. Much shorter than me. We both laughed at the irony of reality.

    G.

  4. #13971
    Quote Originally Posted by Samayosamu  [View Original Post]
    Sorry miss understanding. She didn't ask for any money, she just told me the reason she had to go back to HK real quick. From the start I already told her I was paying her until after. All she had to do was go talk with her friend (mentioned she was staying at her place while In town) and check out with HK. She also switch out to a pair of flip flops vice the high heels she was wearing.

    I've been heard my fair share of sob stories. Seen a few guys fall for them too.
    I've experienced the same where we woke up around 10 am and she had to go back to club and change into civvie clothes and cash out her drink tickets. We then met up at Azuls and she was wearing some gym clothes and looked completely different.

  5. #13970
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    This is a good strategy. I only wish there were nicer beaches within driving distance. Selfishly speaking that is. Ye, I'm a snob like that LOL.

    What is the going rate for girls / day trip? Whether its Tijuana or other countries, I feel like pricing is mixed. Some girls ask that you only cover all costs of the trip & nothing else.

    Others ask for rates that don't make sense, others undercharge. Idk. Appreciate any feedback in this regard for Tijuana / HK girls as to avoid overpaying in case they do ask for $$ for their time per day.
    I usually pay between $200-$300 depending on trip length and what we did, like expensive restaurant and accommodations or cheap food, drinks, etc. It is best to get expectations out of the way before trip so no surprises. Some act like they don't want compensation, but it is cheaper to rent at this moment.

    The future trip to Paris is the one I'm referencing as bar girl said just trip and no compensation as I told her I wouldn't be paying for her to accompany me since the trip is going to cost so much. Also probably cheaper on my end for all day sexcapades with someone you're compatible with compared to hiring various working girls in Paris that might not fit my preferences at 250-300 euros per hr or be possible robs.

  6. #13969

    Scam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Honestly whenever women bring up money, or loan, or they have an emergency need for cash, my eyes just automatically roll to the top of my head. I guess it's too many years of hearing some of the crap the chicas say. 10 drink quota or be fined $100? I think I would have asked her to vacate the room for trying to scam me.
    Sorry miss understanding. She didn't ask for any money, she just told me the reason she had to go back to HK real quick. From the start I already told her I was paying her until after. All she had to do was go talk with her friend (mentioned she was staying at her place while In town) and check out with HK. She also switch out to a pair of flip flops vice the high heels she was wearing.

    I've been heard my fair share of sob stories. Seen a few guys fall for them too.

  7. #13968
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    For guys who want to have companies of hot girls in peace and quiet away from the crowd, smoke, noise, grimes of putas bars in La Zona Norte, they should take their favorite girls out of town on short vacations to local destinations to have fun and figure out how good or bad the girls will act on the road in long trips.

    Guys who took HK girls out on 3 to 5 days trips to Cancun all ran into ugly fights a few times a day, primarily over how much the girls expected to be paid per day or per pop during the vacation. They are not your GFs and not in love with you to give you time and sex for free. Even when in love, classy and high society women would never give men their pussies or anything else without expecting bigger returns. Bar girls think guys are deeply in love with them to invite them for vacations, so they have a good opportunity to make more money for a few days than they can make hanging out in the bars. Make sure you reach agreement on compensation for time and sex before going so you don't have to fight during the trip.

    Guys could have very good times taking hot girls for short trips, a day or two, enjoying their sexy companies, driving along scenic route down the coast to Ensenada. Let the girls show you exotic culture and life styles of the people in small towns along the coast. The beaches near Rosarito and Ensenada are severely polluted with sewage, brown, murky and smell like shit. I would never dip my toes in the water.

    But the twisty, mountainous drive South is very beautiful with clear blue sky and open ocean. Along uninhabited coast line North of Ensenada there are half dozen empty, pristine beaches with golden sand and clear, fresh water, a few with small bars, restaurants, coconut stands, trinket shops. It's a fun day time drive to get to Ensenada in the afternoon, rent a hotel room, lay out in the pool, have hot sex with the girls and take them out to many good restaurants in town. Ensenada's malecon is nice, clean, interesting with lots of cruise passengers on weekends. There's this AYCE lobster buffet for $10, or another place with 10 fish tacos for $1, WTF? How can they make any profit. Watch out for high drinks prices. Don't know if they are still open after CoVid.

    1 or 2 days vacation with bar girls within driving distance is a good test if you will have good times or big headache. If situation turns ugly you can always abort the trip and drive back to HK to hang out with other girls.
    This is a good strategy. I only wish there were nicer beaches within driving distance. Selfishly speaking that is. Ye, I'm a snob like that LOL.

    What is the going rate for girls / day trip? Whether its Tijuana or other countries, I feel like pricing is mixed. Some girls ask that you only cover all costs of the trip & nothing else.

    Others ask for rates that don't make sense, others undercharge. Idk. Appreciate any feedback in this regard for Tijuana / HK girls as to avoid overpaying in case they do ask for $$ for their time per day.

  8. #13967
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Dude #1 - black dude in the hotel went up to reception "Whats your most expensive room?" proceeded to pay cash "can you guys bring some girls up" staff told him to go downstairs and pick them himself. Dude honestly sounded to pussy too pull the girls himself.

    Dudes # - both nights, several dudes throwing stacks of singles on stage at hella ugly girls just simply doing some ass shaking w / their panties on. Felt worse than a fuckin USA strip club.

    Dudes # - buncha horny ugly bros obviously overpaying for average / below average looking girls driving the price in general up. Or maybe girls could tell it was my first time? Hence I got quoted $150, $120 by 2 separate girls? Seemed like you'd really have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to get anything less than $100. But again, just my initial impression.

    Adelitas seemed like a spot where the available talent would agree for less than $100. But I only saw 1 girl I thought looked good but by no means did she blow my mind.

    Whatever, its the gentrification of whoring LOL. Asia honestly wasn't THAT much better when it came to the top clubs in each respective city. Those being ruined by east asian guys LOL.
    I have yet to encounter a lady requesting more than $100 for their time unless it is for extended sessions. I agree some nights are completely off regarding talent as you never know who is in town or if they are with other clients. I hate to eye them down when they are sitting with another bro. I sometimes throw dollars or tip ladies dancing on the poles. I usually throw more if they are giving an acrobatic performance and most of the ladies that do give exceptional dance performances aren't my type or don't have the looks I'm after. You cant expect magic city ATL level twerking and ass claps, but some will do and at least you won't have blue balls afterwards. Also the USA Strip clubs I've been to didn't allow touching and in Tijuana I mostly have my mouth on titties and a hand rubbing a wet kitty.

    Not sure where I'd find that kind of establishment in the USA I'm an equal opportunity monger and find beauty in all races, but have preference for Asians as well even though I was married to a Latina. Now since I don't have the time or opportunity to travel half way across the world, the Latinas have turned it on me for at this moment in time. You might want to try another day around 10-11 pm. It is hit or miss and sometimes I walk out if nothing interesting depending on if I settle. That is why I prefer to have a rotation of regulars as they travel a lot for family or vacation and never know who is in town. The variety is also great as I've met Colombians and Venezuelans. They come in all shapes and sizes, but prefer cute spinners and lately been seeing tall naturals. Either way, if it isn't worth your time or money, then sure other destinations will be opening up soon. I'll keep going until it isn't fun anymore.

  9. #13966
    Went back 2 weeks ago after a long pause due to covid.

    Same impression: the quality plummeted a lot!

    All girls, even poor / ugly ones, asked for $100!

    Would not be back in the near future!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Hey all, just got back from my first trip to Tijuana last week. I'll try to keep the report concise.

    Being totally honest, I wasn't too impressed with the talent level there. There were some hotties, but a whole lotta of butter faces.
    If there were 50 girls, probably only saw 3-4 girls I'd rate as genuine 8+ babes. The rest were a mix of girls I either didn't feel were worth paying to fuck. Or girls I wouldn't fuck even if they paid me.
    For about 1-2 hours, I would drink my drink, take a few laps, order another drink. Rinse and repeat.
    Until I finally saw a sexy little spinner show up with pigtails. NGL, I'm a sucker for sexy girls with pigtails.
    Walked up to her, asked her if she wanted a drink, she said yes & we quickly found a table upstairs.
    Fortunately, we spoke JUST enough of each other's languages for the conversation to be comfortable.
    We got drinks, she immediately started gettin touchy feely, into grinding, into light kissing, into my hands all over her body.
    After 2-3 drinks and some chit chat, she asked me if I was staying upstairs, I replied 'yes' & asked her if she would want to go up, she replied 'yes'.
    Finished our drinks, she ordered some fruit, agreed on $100 and up we went.

  10. #13965

    Mexican honesty

    I stopped in Cozumel on a cruise, rented a car driving around the island visiting empty beaches on the East side and the main town. Parked the car in a lot near Cozumel's main square to walk around for food. Came back in the afternoon in a driving rain near ship's embarking time, picked up the car to drive back to the ship.

    Half a block down the street the old parking attendant ran after the car, handed me back my soaked wallet with a couple hundred $ cash, credit cards, passport card, ship boarding card, everything. While I was worrying about losing my phone, the wallet fell out of my swimming trunk into the parking lot. Shit! I would never have guessed where I dropped it and found it before ship departure time. Could have been a big problem with the cruise without the wallet.

    I was so moved by his honesty and hard work that I took out $40 and handed it to him. He refused it until I insisted.

    Another time I gave a street girl in Cascada a couple 500-peso notes which I mistook for 200-peso. An hour later when paying for food, I figured I lost some money so went back and asked the street girl. She gave me back all my 500 P notes with no argument hehe. It would never happen and US or Asia. Greedy hoes would get pissed off and tear your face to shreds.

    To add to that. I was in Azul's. Got done eating, got up and started walking out and a local Mexican guy at the next table points to the floor where I had dropped my wallet. He could have easily just grabbed it. Unbelievable.

    G.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregyyr  [View Original Post]
    To add to that. I was in Azul's. Got done eating, got up and started walking out and a local Mexican guy at the next table points to the floor where I had dropped my wallet. He could have easily just grabbed it. Unbelievable.

    G.

  11. #13964

    Pristine beaches North of Ensenada

    For guys who want to have companies of hot girls in peace and quiet away from the crowd, smoke, noise, grimes of putas bars in La Zona Norte, they should take their favorite girls out of town on short vacations to local destinations to have fun and figure out how good or bad the girls will act on the road in long trips.

    Guys who took HK girls out on 3 to 5 days trips to Cancun all ran into ugly fights a few times a day, primarily over how much the girls expected to be paid per day or per pop during the vacation. They are not your GFs and not in love with you to give you time and sex for free. Even when in love, classy and high society women would never give men their pussies or anything else without expecting bigger returns. Bar girls think guys are deeply in love with them to invite them for vacations, so they have a good opportunity to make more money for a few days than they can make hanging out in the bars. Make sure you reach agreement on compensation for time and sex before going so you don't have to fight during the trip.

    Guys could have very good times taking hot girls for short trips, a day or two, enjoying their sexy companies, driving along scenic route down the coast to Ensenada. Let the girls show you exotic culture and life styles of the people in small towns along the coast. The beaches near Rosarito and Ensenada are severely polluted with sewage, brown, murky and smell like shit. I would never dip my toes in the water.

    But the twisty, mountainous drive South is very beautiful with clear blue sky and open ocean. Along uninhabited coast line North of Ensenada there are half dozen empty, pristine beaches with golden sand and clear, fresh water, a few with small bars, restaurants, coconut stands, trinket shops. It's a fun day time drive to get to Ensenada in the afternoon, rent a hotel room, lay out in the pool, have hot sex with the girls and take them out to many good restaurants in town. Ensenada's malecon is nice, clean, interesting with lots of cruise passengers on weekends. There's this AYCE lobster buffet for $10, or another place with 10 fish tacos for $1, WTF? How can they make any profit. Watch out for high drinks prices. Don't know if they are still open after CoVid.

    1 or 2 days vacation with bar girls within driving distance is a good test if you will have good times or big headache. If situation turns ugly you can always abort the trip and drive back to HK to hang out with other girls.

  12. #13963
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    I'm inclined to agree. I was in there the other day and I was more annoyed then entertained because there were so many dudes and not enough quality girls. I don't know if the quality of the girls has plummeted so much or there's just too many dudes that occupy the hottest girls. Most of the girls that we recognize aren't even around anymore. The thing that burns is the terrible social skills of these new girls. Average looking girls have attitudes and don't even attempt to show interest. If you go on the weekend then you're screwed because it's sausage city. If you go on a weekday then you're getting the lower tier girls. HK's glory days are a thing of the past. It's not a great situation right now.
    Just speaking as a first impression, a big factor could be the pretty consistent wannabee soundcloud rapper fuck boi that was there while I was. Too many dudes trying to flex and act like they're the shit because they're surrounded by average looking hookers.

    Some examples:

    Dude #1 - black dude in the hotel went up to reception "Whats your most expensive room?" proceeded to pay cash "can you guys bring some girls up" staff told him to go downstairs and pick them himself. Dude honestly sounded to pussy too pull the girls himself.

    Dudes # - both nights, several dudes throwing stacks of singles on stage at hella ugly girls just simply doing some ass shaking w / their panties on. Felt worse than a fuckin USA strip club.

    Dudes # - buncha horny ugly bros obviously overpaying for average / below average looking girls driving the price in general up. Or maybe girls could tell it was my first time? Hence I got quoted $150, $120 by 2 separate girls? Seemed like you'd really have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to get anything less than $100. But again, just my initial impression.

    Adelitas seemed like a spot where the available talent would agree for less than $100. But I only saw 1 girl I thought looked good but by no means did she blow my mind.

    Whatever, its the gentrification of whoring LOL. Asia honestly wasn't THAT much better when it came to the top clubs in each respective city. Those being ruined by east asian guys LOL.

  13. #13962
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    You were outed as a newbie tourist. So you got the newbie tourist scam. Next time, tell the girls you live in Chula Vista which is right over the border, and that you only visit HK 4 times a week because you are busy bartender in San Diego. That way the HK sharks and scammer will not take turns scamming you, but still respect you because you have a steady job that they look up to in HK. Yes the bartender. If they ever try the bucket scam again, give them the middle finger, including the chica. There is a million other chicas who will not scam you.

    People always talk about how incredible HK is. Maybe for the guys from the Midwest or East coast who are used to fat ugly women. But I think it's kind of like a California college campus except it is a fuck bar. IMHO the quality is about the same.

    Andrew is a moron. If you order anything more than 1 drink from him, he has a 50/50 change of forgetting and never bring you anything at all. On the other hand, he is not a dick and will not bother you much about a 2nd drink.

    Don't take the 1st girl out yet. It's your first visit and you've the virgin love disease. Boink about 8 more. If you still remember what the 1st one is like afterwards, you can consider taking the 1st one on dates. Remember to ask her Mexican boyfriend for permission. Then you also have to get permission from her other 2 HK work boyfriends.
    Since it was my first time, I really had no idea which girls worked their frequently, which ones were new. But I got asked the question a few times whether it was my first trip or not. I just lied and said it had been a while since I had came because of Covid.

    The staff at Cascadas probably knew I was new as I didn't walk in knowing everything like the back of my hand. Whereas in HK I felt like I didn't act like a complete newbie as the concept isn't so foreign. Oh well.

    Next time yea, if a girl tries to pull that shit again, I'm inclined to just walk away. Andrew wasn't by any means a nasty guy, just a clueless fuck.

    Only reason I thought about taking out the 1st girl thus far is more due to my general disappointment with the overall quality I saw during my trip. Generally, the thought of taking the same girl out twice 2 nights back to back doesn't even cross my mind if there is sufficient talent to choose from.

    But yes hahaha the 'boyfriend' - I wonder how many of these girls actually have real "boyfriends" in Tijuana or maybe just back home?

    Anyways, will try and give Tijuana / HK another shot or 2 before calling it a lost cause.

    Separately, I didn't realize before going that Las Chavelas was connect to HK. Was generally hard to get a gauge of girls figures when they were sitting down in the darkness and god was that live music just awful.

    Was taking my laps through both HK and Las Chavelas. Nothing really ever caught my eye in Las Chavelas.

  14. #13961
    Quote Originally Posted by Samayosamu  [View Original Post]
    I usually split the one 100 MG into thirds and take it every 4-5 hours. Probably wasn't a good idea to test the V at 150 MG. Lots of experience gained on Monday.
    Multiple pharmacists from different pharmacies told me that 100 MG is the max Viagra dosage every 24 hours. An emergency room doctor told me that if your blood pressure drops too low (possibly from ED meds), to sit down and pop up your feet above your heart. Or you will pass out and likely smack your skull and get a concussion. Lastly, 100 MG is the daily max for Viagra. If you fuck up and take 100 MG of Cialis, its' going to be interesting and we hope you survive to tell us the story.

  15. #13960
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    A logical distrust in women is healthy but men definitely went too far the other way and now say all women are evil, useless and out to take advantage. My bad experiences with women in America woke me up to the reality of female nature. Thing is you can't hate women for what they are, its in their nature to test us. Women will take it as far as you let them, working girl or civie.
    Honestly whenever women bring up money, or loan, or they have an emergency need for cash, my eyes just automatically roll to the top of my head. I guess it's too many years of hearing some of the crap the chicas say. 10 drink quota or be fined $100? I think I would have asked her to vacate the room for trying to scam me.

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