Kuala Lumpur

[11Bravo]

Big Flaw in Story.

First problem with the story is that tourist visas do not allow you to work in any country let alone work as WG so Police could have charged her anyway.

Secondly if someone take you to the police station, the police in these countries would find some way of getting some money / favours.

I can see both points. Certainly, in these countries, LE can generate whatever is needed.

On the other hand, given that prostitution is illegal in Malaysia, she wasn't working. Visiting on a tourist visa, what's the problem if she goes out to enjoy some nightlife? BC does have a band, after all. For someone knowledgable about the circuit, she might be more willing to "stand fast", resisting.

I've heard from wg's that the concern is safety. In the eastern world, women considered 2nd class anyway, with limited rights, and a wg is a lower 2nd class. Not being paid, returning to his place for a Musketeers party ("all for 1, 1 for all") with his friends waiting there, mutual consent for menu items not adhered to, etc. Not like she can go to LE for protection. And westerners can be more concerned about "bad publicity" if something happens and she does throw a scene; just google "secret service sex scandal" if they're not. And finally, the world is NOT PC; color is unfairly used by a lot for rank. Just look at all the skin-whitening ads around.

Finally, it's the stereotyped "westerners have more money" and so are worth the time to market to... After are, at a crowded conference, who are you going to spend the most time with, marketing? Those countries with money, or those with less? How many companies have office in dubai for the Middle East region, and how many in Africa?

[KLman]

Tried QQ. She looks better then in the picture, but she is not as slim as in the picture. She looks like a mix between Indian and Thai but she said she does not know if she has some Indian origin. Speaks enough English.

Age: +- 25.

Face: 9/10 I think she looks prettier than in the photo. Not typical Thai face.

Body & Skin: 7/10 brown, typical southeast Asian skin.

Boobs : 4/10. Minus point but it is not a big deal.

Pussy : 6/10 get.

DATY : Yes, but did not try too much.

BBBJ : 8/10.

FK : Yes.

Fingering: Yes.

Moan : 8/10.

GFE : 8/10.

Damage : RM180

[Global Surfer]

this should be the first fr about malaysia but i decided to arrange the reports according to topics rather than how the events unfolded. the first thing i noticed was wrong spelling e. g. k l sentral, nombor, kaunter etc. secondly people are scared of walking even 200 meter is a lot for them. food is excellent and cheap as five star hotels. i stayed in hotel istana. i think location is 10 stars, lobby is 5 stars but rooms look dated and no more than 4 star. anyway gbp 44 per day was definitely good value for money and on top of that the hotel was lush green i. e. no problem brining your friend in. i know most hotels in malaysia are green but the last statement was primarily for readers from the middle east.

after a quick shave and shower went out of to satisfy the most important human desire. hunger and then the plan was to go to beach club to satisfy the second most important desire – sex. although, most people think of these as two separate desires, i am of the opinion that they represent the same desire i. e. to survive. hunger to survive yourself and sex to survive your specie.

you can find excellent description of beach club by 11 bravo at http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ewfull=1#post1

so i would not go into that detail.

bc has interesting mix of nationalities from four continents including vietnam, cambodia, laos and thailand from far east asia, cameron and ghana from africa, , uzbekistan, armenia and turkey from central asia, ukraine from europe and brazil from south america. i had serious doubts about her brazilian origin. i think she was from africa like others.

among them one ukrainian – slightly overweight but very friendly. i prefer tall slim figures but in few minutes she was all over me. we followed the same pathway from bacardi in istanbul to jules and regal in dubai to cm2 in bangkok and finally we met in beach club in kl. her friendliness coupled with my tiredness forced me to take her out. she asked for rg 300 st but agreed on rg 250.

outside i had a tough negotiation with taxi driver who agreed to drop us at hotel istana for rg 15. once inside the hotel i forgot my girl friend. i don't think i ever had such a friendly girl. everything was on table except a levels.

she loved dfk and would even allow you to lick her tonsils, followed by 69 and very steamy session. the only negative thing was the speed with which she rushed out. she is blue eyed blond somewhat over weight easy going next door girl and strongly recommended.

discrimination by wgs.

i read a very detailed report about bc in kl thread sometime ago. i cannot remember the link but i think it was by niel. it was an excellent report in which he mentioned about discrimination against blacks and south asian. in the past one wg from kazakhstan in cm2 bangkok had openly admitted about that discrimination. i discussed the issue with this one and what comes out was very strange. i have purposely not mentioned her name in this post because of her story. please note this is her story and i have no way of verifying it.

according to her most local men hate russian women because they think they are making too much money. there have been instances where a local man would hire a wg and instead of taking home would take her straight to police station and report her as a working girl. a week ago some local man hired her for rg 600 lt but took her straight to the police station and reported her as sex worker. according to her, police had to release her as she had valid visa. she further added that her friends, who were out of status, had to pay rg 2500, bribe to escape deportation.

big flaw in story.

first problem with the story is that tourist visas do not allow you to work in any country let alone work as wg so police could have charged her anyway.

secondly if someone take you to the police station, the police in these countries would find some way of getting some money / favours.

interesting thing is that the figure of rg 2500 was also confirmed by a bangladeshi waiter who was working for rg 1200 / month. i think immigration officers need a tutorial in maths as they are charging the same money to a person working on rg 1200 a month as a wg working on rg 600 a night.

anyway i think i should leave this debate open for senior locals to comment.

[MilesTeg]

With your FR, consider your bill paid in full. I agree, with some luck, you can turn up a gem or 2 at the BC. Besides, if nothing else, panning for that gold nugget is fun.

Thanks 11Bravo. You're right, panning is the best part. While I was at the BC, a line from Master and Commander kept playing in my head: "Jack. You're the predator." The WGs will try to take advantage of you. Don't let them!

For those new to the KL scene, everything you need to know about the BC is in 11Bravo's 4 part post. The posts are a couple of years old, but I don't feel anything is out of date. The descriptions of the club are so detailed that when I got there, I felt like I'd been there before. Please read them before asking a BC question!

[Global Surfer]

After Rum Jungle disaster I moved to Thai Club. It is much smaller and slightly cheaper than BC. Most girls I met were from Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam. There was a group of Westerners celebrating a birthday party so the gathering was obviously mix and the bar full.

I took my drink and sat on a table. In a few minutes I was approached by a Viet. She was around 26-30 bit obese and I would rate her 4/10. I did not wanted to waste time so told her that I am here just for beer. She told me that if I want she can give me some company and chat me up if I tip her RG 400. I could not believe my ears so I asked her to confirm. She reiterated her offer. I still could not believe so I asked to confirm third time and she confirmed it again. I told her that unfortunately I cannot afford her consultancy services and she walked off. A few minutes later someone tapped my shoulder. I looked back and saw an old 60+ Indian or may be Arab with all white hairs. He asked me if I don't mind can he chat up 'my girl'. I looked back and RG 400 Viet was on his table. I said 'feel free'. He replied that actually the girl prefers the company of a young man like himself. I have no way to find out the actual deal between them but if she has managed to squeeze anything out of that 'young man' other than drinks then he definitely needs some supervised training.

A few minutes later I saw a fairly tall Thai. In a few minutes she approached me. She was quite nice friendly chatty 8/10 girl. She told me that she is from Laos and according to her most girls who say that they are from Issan are actually from Laos. She asked for RG 300 ST and would not budge. Considering my obsession with tall and slim figures I agreed and off we went to the hotel.

She was very chatty and soon started discussing marriage and love. One of her friends (a working girl) had managed to marry an Englishman and now living somewhere in Scotland. She soon realized that she is making me uncomfortable. She changed the topic and the discussion became physical. She was not very comfortable with kissing but apart from that an aggressive session followed with lots of positions. She enjoyed a long session with legs on shoulder and finally doggie.

Apart from talking too much about marriage and no real DFK an excellent sweaty session.

[Global Surfer]

I forget to mention 3/4 regular pimps. One in front of McDonald is an obese young guy who walks with a limp and another one at the junction of Jalan Bucket Bintang with Changkat. I did not use their services but I used to see them all day serving apparently local people. So anybody can try and report.

Please note that street scene for the purpose of WGs is only available between 21:00 to 23:00 maximum. After that you will only find Lady Boys.

As mentioned earlier the trouble is the one you like are not available for full service and the ones who offer are generally very poor quality and obviously cheap. Like Bangkok this is the cheapest option and quality may improve with the quantity.

[11Bravo]

I've lurked on this board for awhile and finally got around to signing up for an account. Figured I'd post a FR from my trip to KL last month. First of all, I'd like to thank 11Bravo for his great series of posts on the BC. Without them, I'm sure I'd be a lot poorer.

You have to search but there are definitely some gems at the BC.

With your FR, consider your bill paid in full. I agree, with some luck, you can turn up a gem or 2 at the BC. Besides, if nothing else, panning for that gold nugget is fun.

10-02-12 17:52

Hi all senior and master,

I am the newbie here would like to learn experience from Sifu.

10-02-12 17:49

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Run jungle appears to be frequented by African men. So I decided to cut the losses and moved to Thai Club. I visited the palace on Sunday night and it was total waste of time and money. I am not sure about Friday and Saturday

And certainly senior members can provide guidance... A reminder for others to be careful: while she's allowing you to grope her, she can be doing the same... with your wallet. Same for the clubs - if I remember correctly, there is a not-a-small-sign at the BC warning of pickpockets... Looking forward to future FR's.

[Global Surfer]

Run jungle appears to be frequented by African men. First day I did not bother to enter. Second day I went inside. There was a group of 9 young African men more interested in drinks then girls. There were around 4 African girls and two Russian T55s. I decided to wait a little bit and asked for bottled Carlsberg. Bar staff is not friendly and reluctant to return the change. Anyway I stayed there for half an hour and nothing significant arrived. So I decided to cut the losses and moved to Thai Club. I visited the palace on Sunday night and it was total waste of time and money. I am not sure about Friday and Saturday

[Global Surfer]

I think there is underreported and / or neglected street scene in BB area. If you walk from Hotel Istana it includes Jalan Sultan Ismail, Jalan Buket Bintang and Changkat Bintang. No way near the size of Bangkok. After eight (I mean after 20:00) you may find full service massage from locals, African (mostly sub Saharan Africa) , Thai lady boys and even boys. The last was bit strange as I have never seen boys even in Bangkok. After 23:00 it is primarily lady boys and boys. So if you do want to try go there at around 22:00.

Most of these are probably legit Massage service provider and even if you ask for full service they will keep on using the word full body. However, after 20:00 things change and I have been offer full services on three separate occasions. Only trouble is if you go ask nobody would agree. However, if you walk up and down a few times, someone will come and offer massage and sex. Quality generally not very good.

First I met a free lancer just outside Hotel Istana and she probably has good contacts inside Istana. According to her she is there most of days between 21:00 to 23:00 but I met her only on first night. She is local Chinese around 30 year old with decent body asking for Rg 200 but agreed at Rg150. I was going to BC so I asked her if she can come next day afternoon to my room. I made it clear that I don't want reception to call me down. She agreed and was spot on time. I doubt her statement of being local as very poor English. Very eager to please, decent massage skills, reluctant DFK, multiple positions leading to an average session.

Waking on Chang Kat towards Jalan Buket Bintang you will notice a somewhat less illuminated patch around a Taxi stand that looks like a bus stand. There you will notice an unholy alliance between African WGs and Thai lady boys. I was about to use the world truce but then I realized that they cater for different markets and hence the word alliance. Both are equally pushy and frisky and chances of a single men walking through them unmolested is remote. Not that I have any objection on being molested by a WG regardless of her ethnicity but the trouble is that KLs warm and humid tropical climate does create some hygiene issues. I was stopped by someone from Cameroon and we met like old friends. In next few minutes she let me explore and verify her credentials right in the middle of Changkat. She was very soft spoken and friendly and started from Rg 200 and dropped to Rg 150 to Rg 120 to Rg 100 without me saying a word. The trouble was her fully covered dress that may be more suitable for dry heat but was stinking in tropical KL. Quality obviously is not very good and that is reflected in the price.

The third spot is when U-turn right from Changkat on Jalan Buket Bintang. There you will notice some 6/7 Asian girls and 1/2 boys offering massage. At night they openly offer sex at their place. However, some of them look too young so I just waved them and didn't stop.

[Dracular]

Hi guys.

Just othernight I went there place and took 1 girll. Sandy and layla. Just search net or craiglist.

They are bit pricy first. But brought down till 300rm.

[Dracular]

Hi guys. Had this 3 some and enjoyed.

1 is quite young and cute. Other is bit in her 30s. They claim that they are here for about 5 days.

Paid 600rm for 1hr and came to my place.

You may come across them in craiglist kl section.

Enjoy. Have fun

[JimDiGriz]

I didn't realize that you cannot PM me as I have not paid for a subscription yet. I will look into paying up and then post if successful. Many thanks to all of you on providing such excellent information.

[JimDiGriz]

Thanks for the information guys. I am coming over next week and looking forward to some fun! Please feel free to PM me if you are interested in showing a newbie the ropes. I am particularly keen to avoid MIB!

[MuDragon7]

Hi all senior and master,

I am the newbie here would like to learn experience from Sifu.

Regards,

Mudragon7

[MuDragon7]

Hi all Senior Members,

I am the newbie of this grand hot topic, allow me learn from you all.

Regards.