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04-04-12 22:02 #140
Posts: 2Any luck?
Originally Posted by SwordV [View Original Post]
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04-04-12 21:59 #139
Posts: 2Cute civillians
I've been in Santa Cruz for a short time now and am still learning Spanish but have tried my luck and got varying results. Girls on the street are interested that you're foreign but they're all after the passport! I'm trying to find a club which is a locals joint but not 6 sea donkeys in a corner playing cards! Can anyone recommend a club and it whereabouts. The place mentioned by Micky Dee (very useful thanks) sounds great. Somewhere, where I can drink and take back a couple of eighteen years-old back with me! Is this asking too much!
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03-04-12 04:05 #138
Posts: 1Hotel Arenal
Originally Posted by SwordV [View Original Post]
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03-02-12 15:41 #137
Posts: 4Sol why Luna
So I tried to goto Cafe Show yesterday but was way too early. A cabbie then took me to Sol why Luna & I was very impressed. Some of the best value mongering I've ever had!
Tried to find Sol Ardiente after but couldn't. Cabbies didn't know it. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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02-25-12 16:12 #136
Posts: 16Hotels
Originally Posted by SwordV [View Original Post]
Ask radio dispatched taxi drivers, as they are the main resource for that activity. They can send girls directly to you, take you to night clubs like Curry's or various casas des putas.
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02-23-12 06:53 #135
Posts: 4Hotel recommendation
Can anyone recommend a hotel with a helpful concierge who will find girls? What about Hotel LP Santa Cruz?
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02-17-12 21:48 #134
Posts: 16In Santa Cruz for nearly 12 days
Originally Posted by Willy Dee [View Original Post]
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01-25-12 02:51 #133
Posts: 16Scz
Originally Posted by Willy Dee [View Original Post]
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01-07-12 10:04 #132
Posts: 13Feb Visit II
Originally Posted by UpToNoGood [View Original Post]
I will also be in SCZ in Feb. 14-20 only. Perhaps our time will overlap.
Good hunting,
Willy Dee
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12-29-11 20:14 #131
Posts: 91Thanks
Willy, thanks for the deep-dive. I guess that I was out of luck when visiting these clubs. The first impression one gets of a place very often depends on one or two good experiences. When these are lacking, the conclusion is often that the whole town sucks. Sol Ardiente is near the Bougainvilleas hotel, right? A taxi driver proposed to take me there but I decided against it as the guy at the reception of my hotel had warned me that it is a dangerous area. Well, perhaps better next time.
Originally Posted by Willy Dee [View Original Post]
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12-28-11 07:17 #130
Posts: 13SCZ re-visited
Bucanero asked some good questions. I really had to think about all the reasons I like SCZ, and it isn't all mongering. Just mostly. What did you miss? Hum?
1. Attitude. Crucenas love Americans, the rest of the world hates us. On an individual basis, for example, lo-ball a Boliviana and she will likely cry. Lo-ball a Thai girl and she will cut out your heart with a spoon. These are generally tender young girls who are gentle and actually fun to be with. I have visited the families of 3 of them near Santa Cruz. Where else would that happen? I often help them clothing shop. Fitting new bras on a 110 pound 19 year old is one of the best afternoons I have ever had, and it led to an even better evening. No one cares about this in SCZ, as a middle aged man with a 20 year old date, no one at the cine center or the restaurant even notices. Thats my favorite part of the laid back SCZ attitude.
2. Price. Done right, everything CAN be cheap. It often isn't, but it can be.
3. Safety. The places you describe at night. Sol Ardiente and Sol Y Luna being in bad areas, and VIP Valencia being in a very poor area. All true. I visit all of them each time I am down and have had no problems. I must stand out as the only gringo in the place, and the only guy over 45. Still, no problems. Security is pretty good, they don't want to attract the police.
4. Last, and far from least, are the girls. I will admit that the cheap clubs have cheap looking girls. Some nights. But on tues. Try out day at Sol Ardiente, you can hurt your neck just looking at the school girls trying to dance. And I have picked up girls in these two cheap places that were prettier than any girl I have seen in Argentina. And that says a lot. They arent common, and a reputation for tipping big helps. I ALWAYS tip the server and ask for any special girls to be brought to me, and I will give him a fee. On several occasions I have taken girls before their first ever dance in the club.
But to be sure. I have had some slow afternoons, and some early visits to the clubs when there were only a few girls that were 3-5 range, or were a little better but didn't want anything to do with me. But there is always Currys, and a private room is cheap, and a real beauty is only $100 a pop, and that is about the top end of Santa Cruz. And to answer your implicit question, I have only seduced two non-pros in all my trips to Bolivia. It may be fun for some, but for me is a waste of time. I like to know where we're headed. Best wishes. Willy Dee
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12-25-11 12:35 #129
Posts: 91What did I miss?
Your (and other posters') enthusiasm about SC makes me believe I've missed some vital 'link' when I visited. Perhaps I just didn't get it. My point of reference is Rio, where you can find massage places, termas and common brothels easily. These places are not hard to find and addresses and 'previews' are being shared on this board. In SC, you can find some of these places as well (except for the termas, of course) but they are much more hidden. I found only two 'casas de citas' in SC but I'm convinced there are many more:
VIP, Radial 10 #2000 entre Anillo 4 and 5. Prices quoted were B$200 and B$300 per hour, depending on the girl. Not expensive at all but there were only 3 girls when I visited (in the afternoon) and none to my liking. The reception was far from friendly and I didn't like the atmosphere. The girls were totally cold and indifferent. I did not like the neighborhood and would definitely not visit at night.
Bellas, Anillo 3 ext. #3735 entre Mutualista and Paraguana. Prices between B$250 and B$350 per hour. Same cold reception as in the other place. I don't think they got many foreign visitors as they obviously didn't know how to 'handle' me. As in the other place, I was essentially ignored. Also in this place, there were only 3 girls present when I visited (afternoon).
You are right that prices are considerably lower than in most other places in Latin America. Especially Brazil is getting outrageously expensive these days, much to my regret. Bolivia is still cheap (although SC is more expensive than Cochabamba, where I visited 2 years ago). And indeed, there is a lot of variety in SC when it comes to girls (and I do like that very much). However, I wonder what you mean with "easy to pick up a girl.". Do you mean a callgirl you ordered to your hotel room or a girl you met in a club? Or do you mean a non-pro (or semi-pro) you met downtown? As I mentioned in my previous post, the 'normal' girls I saw on the central plaza did not seem interested at all. When I smiled at them they simply ignored me. Well, that could be age and looks related, of course. I'm not that young anymore. Please tell me about your approach in SC. If I really missed out on something good, I may consider to go there again. I like a challenge. However, my next visit will definitely not be in the Bolivian summer season, which is unbearable IMHO. By the way, I do speak some Spanish (although not fluently) so language was not the main barrier.
Originally Posted by Willy Dee [View Original Post]
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12-25-11 01:28 #128
Posts: 16Returning to SCZ for the 5th Time
I will be back in SCZ in early Febr. For a few weeks of R&R. Yes, I love the warm weather especially when the northern USA is in a deep freeze.
I have never been disappointed in Bolivia except for being there on Sundays or during Easter, when there is pittifully nothing to do.
I also have been around the world and find SCZ at the top of the list. I used to think Dom Rep was great but in SCZ there are more nonprofessionals. That makes it more fun.
Yes, it is important to speak some Spanish in SCZ, like it is to speak some French in Paris, even if you just want to buy a baguette.
I hope to try some of the new venues this time.
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12-13-11 09:53 #127
Posts: 13The REAL santa cruz
Originally Posted by Bucanero [View Original Post]
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12-09-11 10:55 #126
Posts: 258Originally Posted by Botaki6 [View Original Post]
As I usually have to be up and out rather in the mornings I generally do not go to the clubs but when I am not able to find a civilian playmate I like to order 'room service' from my hotel. (See my report of 27. 08. 11)
For around 60-70 US$ I have always had a MOST ENJOYABLE experience and sometimes it is rather nice to see what will arrive at your hotel! I have NEVER been disappointed!
OK, I agree that S. C. Is NOT the best place in S. America to go to JUST for Mongering but, if you are there, it seems to ME that it is ALLWAYS possible to find an enthusiastic young playmate for a relaxing hour or two.
Personally I rather like the place.
Enjoy, I do.
Hotman.