Madrid

[Enphl]

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These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

Yes, I agree that a club sounds like a good idea. However, for various reasons, I prefer to try to have my sessions in the afternoon (ie 3-4 pm). I wonder if this will be an issue going to Vive or Estark. I think I can get to Vive pretty easily since there's a subway stop near there.

[PayForIt]

If you got that high of budget, try Vive, the places has heaps of girls at the rate of 110 per 30 min. Also visit Estark and compare. See if which of two clubs, the rate and the lineup is worth more. For the guys on tighter budget, Estark is the good option, otherwise, looser budget, Vive is advantageous since the lineup of girls are many times greater than other venues.

Both of these places are venues with working girls. Bar/Club type atmosphere. So that means large number of girls present that you can interact with, and then choose which you like to do business with. I think these types of places are advantageous since you can assess many girls on the spot before choosing. Although perhaps, high end escort type places may have the higher end girls, but expenses could be higher, and you may not know exactly what are going to get. A bit of a risk in who may show up or if the girl is represented well on the images.

So, these venues like Vive or Estark are work a look, and also it's safer for the WGs, and no risk from punters from getting swindled(or robbed) besides the risk of a bad provider. Since there are so many girls around, if you the session wasn't great, you can choose another girl right there. Those are the advantages for club/bar venues.

Out of various club visits, I didn't get much push for drinks, and never have bought drinks for girls. It's probably likely the high rollers at Vive to buy drinks for the girls. I think, you buy them a drink, and they stick around a bit is how it works. Some guys may prefer more to spend a lot of time in the bar than in the room. The girls are there to work so you got to drop some money on either a drink or session, to get more time with the girl would make more sense.

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

Hi PL. Have read your excellent previous posts and summary http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...678&viewfull=1#post1807678 which I believe is a must read for anyone going to any of the clubs in Madrid.

I'm there again this week. Went to Estark based on your previous report. Really enjoyed it. But the last remaining club I've not been to in Madrid is flowers and from reading your post and those previously of So Happy about the wonderful Nancy from Jordan I'm tempted. Only downside is that it looks miles and miles outside of the city. I normally go by public transport. I can see the Las Rozas train station there. But can you tell me if you'd stay locally to it or stay in the centre and travel out and finally would you bother with Flowers compared to say Estark?

Cheers.

[PussyLiccker]

If you got that high of budget, try Vive, the places has heaps of girls at the rate of 110 per 30 min. Also visit Estark and compare. See if which of two clubs, the rate and the lineup is worth more. For the guys on tighter budget, Estark is the good option, otherwise, looser budget, Vive is advantageous since the lineup of girls are many times greater than other venues.

Both of these places are venues with working girls. Bar/Club type atmosphere. So that means large number of girls present that you can interact with, and then choose which you like to do business with. I think these types of places are advantageous since you can assess many girls on the spot before choosing. Although perhaps, high end escort type places may have the higher end girls, but expenses could be higher, and you may not know exactly what are going to get. A bit of a risk in who may show up or if the girl is represented well on the images.

So, these venues like Vive or Estark are work a look, and also it's safer for the WGs, and no risk from punters from getting swindled(or robbed) besides the risk of a bad provider. Since there are so many girls around, if you the session wasn't great, you can choose another girl right there. Those are the advantages for club/bar venues.

Out of various club visits, I didn't get much push for drinks, and never have bought drinks for girls. It's probably likely the high rollers at Vive to buy drinks for the girls. I think, you buy them a drink, and they stick around a bit is how it works. Some guys may prefer more to spend a lot of time in the bar than in the room. The girls are there to work so you got to drop some money on either a drink or session, to get more time with the girl would make more sense.

These venues in Spain gets going later at night as mentioned earlier. So, you'd probably call them "night" clubs. Estark starts out earlier, but Vive don't get going until like 11.

You will have to do some research on how to get to these places.

[Enphl]

Looking for advice. I'll be visiting Madrid for two days (then Barcelona for 3).

- I only speak English so I am worried this may be an issue.

- I'm interested in petite slim or athletic toned girls with a nice face. I don't care about having big boobs or bum. I just don't like flabby.

- I'd like to keep it around 110 EUR +/- 20 but def under 170 EUR for 30 min.

- Ideally I'd like this not to take too much time and be able to take the subway.

- I probably want to be doing this sometime in the early afternoon so that may be a factor if I goto a brothel.

- I definitely don't want a "club" like place where I need to waste money and time buying drinks.

So I'd appreciate any advice.

I could see an independent. That would require alot of time researching the right girl. Then attempting to contact her and hoping it doesn't fall thru or I don't get robbed.

I like Brothel type places because I am just introduced to some girls, pick the girl I want and it'll def happen at least. The risk is just that you don't know if the girl will be good and may have to pay a fee to get in without knowing what the selection is like.

[Mongerer88]

Is Vive still open as on Google it says its closed? Please can you help with this or any more details on club vive please?

Thank you.

While it would be nice to have a current field report, what probably has happened is that several people who disapprove of prostitution have clicked the button on Google indicating that the place is closed, when in fact it is not. The management does not follow Google search results, so they are unable to notify Google of what has happened.

If this is true, and I strongly suspect that it is, since Vive is a very popular club and its closure would hit the Spanish media, you might want to keep this in mind if you visit Asia. When a girl requests a large tip for water buffalo who is in animal hospital, the water buffalo may not in fact be sick. The sex industry has a lot of dirty tricks and untruthfulness.

In bothering to research this, I did note that a line 1 metro stop is nearby. I doubt that I will go to Vive since I have been gathering information on other sex sources, but in case I do, can someone tell me what the walk is like from the line 1 metro to Vive? If might help the new guy, also.

[GlynneJones]

Is Vive still open as on Google it says its closed? Please can you help with this or any more details on club vive please?

Thank you.

Thanks for all the info guys. Here is my report.

I've only done club visits, and will sequence the clubs from best to worst in terms of optics level of the girls. They were Mon and Tues visits.

1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid

In the city center of Madrid. Only drink voucher for 17 Euros entry, no foods. Restaurant on the left side of the entrance if hungry. It is indeed the largest of the clubs I've visited, and the largest LU of all the clubs. Girls are dressed. Meaning dressed in dresses (I've attached an image of give an idea of what they typically would wear).

You will see a big yellow Vive sign outside the club. Walk through the open main entrance with the bouncer standing by, and on the left is a booth to pay for entry. 17 Euros to enter, and you will be handed a drink voucher to exchange for a drink at the bar inside the club. After paying, made my way through the doors, and low and behold a quite large interior like a big warehouse sized, high ceiling ect,. There are big screens above displaying videos. Against the wall, higher level, the stage for WGs to do a strip dance every so often. One of the girls I took seems to regularly do strip dances. In the middle are two enclosed rectangular shaped bars. Around the bar are chairs, and girls and punters mingling, and drinking. On the right there is a minibar, and next to it a vip type area with a stripper pole, and couches. On that side, there will be a line of girls sitting in chairs or standing around...

[GlynneJones]

Visiting Madrid and need more details on Club Vive please. The address tel no etc.

Why does it say on website it is closed? Is it now closed or still open?

Any details on girls place and prices and tips would be great.

Glynne

[PussyLiccker]

I don't recall an entrance fee at Factory but if there is one you'll get a ticket for a drink at the bar for your fee. The advantage of FA is it's close to the airport if you are flying in / don't want the hassle of a minimum 30 euro cab into Madrid centre and want to fly out the next day. The other advantage is that the bar is not only bigger but very long. Think of a horse racecourse (not that long of course) but in shape. Two long straights and two tight bends! The result is that you can freely have a walk around the club to make selections. The downside of FA and where Estark wins is on line up. The last 2 times I've been to FA the LU has been thin on the ground. In contrast I went to Estark for the first time last week (see post below) and the LU was quite impressive with several I would have been happy to take. But its a small space and you have to be happy with very publicly refusing the girls. Both are worth a punt. It cost me 13 euros from central Madrid to Estark. It's sort of South East of Madrid and FA is north east. You could go to FA and if it wasn't great get a cab to Estark but I'd check the cab prices in advance as I don't know the distance (try it on google maps). Enjoy and as So Happy said. Be sure to report back.

Yeah, that's my take as well. Both you can negotiate, or girls offer lower rates. I dunno if Estark is day dependent club like Vive (for the big LU). My interests were on the Romies there, and it seems both clubs Latinas are on the older side (could be a generalization though). Even an older girl I met at FA, that clung to me for good long duration, albeit no interest from me (this had to do with early night hours during the week not many customers). Proposed 50 Euros. Not much business to be had for the girls on Mon and Tues. There are the younger Romies to the right, but they had what I'd describe as more gypsy lookin types.

The thing about is the girl claimed Czech, and another girl claimed Bul. A girl told me don't believe the bullshit, majority of the girls at FA are Romies. This is common with Romies trying to distinguish themselves as other nationalities due to their varying looks, and a punters that limited in language abilities. One girl that bullshitted me as Bul at FA I was surprised. I thought she was early 20's, and I find out she's like 30. To me, Romies really surprise me on their age. I'm wondering how many Romies I've met thus far that are older, but tells me younger age. They seem to age well.

Overall, FA and Esark share similarities on that, you got low-ballers, young Romies, enough girls starts during the early night. But, like PFI says, Estark has more of an edge when it comes to the LU, and perhaps he went on a better day than I did. I understand Romies tend to work regularly (most days), and take 1 day off during the week if they do. Differences are like PFI points out like the name. Much larger like a bar in a Factory. I recall the long bar on the right, and on that side against the wall, several Romies are present and more later at night, and not aggressive at all. Just that Estark is a compact space that you are a short distance from the girls for girls to market themselves, and easier view since all are close proximity which I think is the positive. Did not pay entrance at FA, but dunno if they require a drink if you take a girl up. I had a car so I checked out FA several times throughout the night since I paid no entry.

[John166]

Estark: Best taxi or own car.

I like Stark, I've recently gone and recommended it, but you're right, the worst is that there is not public transport, so I went by taxi.

[PayForIt]

Thanks for the informations. Considerung going to Factory Air instead of Estark: What is the advantgae of Factory Air compared to Estark? Only the bigger bar? I guess Factory Air will cost entrance fee?

I don't recall an entrance fee at Factory but if there is one you'll get a ticket for a drink at the bar for your fee. The advantage of FA is it's close to the airport if you are flying in / don't want the hassle of a minimum 30 euro cab into Madrid centre and want to fly out the next day. The other advantage is that the bar is not only bigger but very long. Think of a horse racecourse (not that long of course) but in shape. Two long straights and two tight bends! The result is that you can freely have a walk around the club to make selections. The downside of FA and where Estark wins is on line up. The last 2 times I've been to FA the LU has been thin on the ground. In contrast I went to Estark for the first time last week (see post below) and the LU was quite impressive with several I would have been happy to take. But its a small space and you have to be happy with very publicly refusing the girls. Both are worth a punt. It cost me 13 euros from central Madrid to Estark. It's sort of South East of Madrid and FA is north east. You could go to FA and if it wasn't great get a cab to Estark but I'd check the cab prices in advance as I don't know the distance (try it on google maps). Enjoy and as So Happy said. Be sure to report back.

[JayJay28]

Estark: Best taxi or own car. Difficult to get there on public transport. Also consider Factory Air (near the airport) as it has a bigger bar. Drinks 7 to 10 each; I never buy for the girls and tell them that money is for sex upstairs, and they are always happy with that and will usually stay and chat for as long as you want. Say "mi dinero es para jiggy-jiggy arriba" and you will normally get a laugh and acceptance.

Thanks for the informations. Considerung going to Factory Air instead of Estark: What is the advantgae of Factory Air compared to Estark? Only the bigger bar? I guess Factory Air will cost entrance fee?

[So Happy]

Hi,

As a good preparion I worked my way through this forum but some questions from my side remain unanswered. Currently I see probably 3 options for me which seem to be fine.

1.) Estark bar within the Hotel Diana Plus.
2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera.
3.) slumi.com.

1.) Estark bar within the Hotel Diana Plus: From the reports here in the forum I think I have an idea how it will work. But it is located outside the city (I'm staying somewhere in the area of the Bernabeu Stadium). On google maps I see a bus stop from a Madrid bus line in the near of the hotel. Is there a good connection via the public transportations? Maybe by train, metro and / or bus? Or is this way not recommended. If so, why? Other point is: The drinks in the bar are described as not expensive. I guess it is common that you have to buy the woman a drink if you like to chat a bit with her and try to make a "deal". What will they normally order and what will this cost? Instead of spending 30 or 50 for a drink I would like to spend the money more to the girl. Any price-information about the drinks in that bar?

2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera: I read that there are also some good-looking girls working in that street. Some write that they are looking to good for working on the street. How to contact them without the risk to approach a "normal" girl which probably will slap me then. Any signs not to misunderstood? Do I have to approach them or will they make the "first step"? And of course where will we have sex? Is it done on the street (probably in a dark corner) or do they have a hotel room? What might be the usual price for 1 hour? And is it possible that they will come with me to my hotel? Is this common or may I get problems with the hotel reception?

3.) slumi.com : I found this side as it was mentioned here in some reports. Is it trustable or have someone any experiences with booking theses girls?

Any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance for helping me out. Personal message is also accepted.

Estark: Best taxi or own car. Difficult to get there on public transport. Also consider Factory Air (near the airport) as it has a bigger bar. Drinks 7 to 10 each; I never buy for the girls and tell them that money is for sex upstairs, and they are always happy with that and will usually stay and chat for as long as you want. Say "mi dinero es para jiggy-jiggy arriba" and you will normally get a laugh and acceptance.

SWs at Montera: as per Hunter Gatherer's report; trust me, you'll know she's a WG; most hotels are WG friendly.

Slumi dot com: I have also found passion dot com to be a very good source.

Have fun and remember to report back!

[Zozimus]

My question for why'all: I then had some lunch and wanted to go to chicas 7. I put the address in Google maps, walked fucking laps around that block. I found a door with the number 7 on it (address is 7 B). I rang number 7 and an old hag answered, I said sorry in Spanish and walked away. I saw a 7 B but it was on a window (behind metal bars). I felt like a moron and was running out of time to go catch my flight before I could mess with the situation much longer and left. Is chicas7 some fucking Harry Potter shit where I need to run full speed at the 7 B window? The old hag actually the bouncer? And help would be appreciated.

Stay safe.

If you look at the contact info on their website http://www.chicas7vips.com/contacto/ you will see they have included a picture of their door. It's sort of on the end of a row of houses that all seem to be covered by the number 7. Go to these co-ordinates and you will be standing right in front of it. 40.425477, -3.709235.

[MarkMark19]

Hi,

I visited Madrid recently, I met three girls, I was lucky because I liked every meeting, but with some differences:

Sara.

http://www.sensmodels.com/escortsmad...3-628100944-en

She is a Spanish escort, whit Latin blood, nice tits, very involved in bed, very beautiful. I liked meeting her because I did have a good time in bed, very active in sex. A bit expensive, but I enjoyed her.

Aitana.

http://www.photoescorts.com/aitana-escort-madrid-13632

She is a Spanish woman, with big tunned tits, also very involved in bed. She accepts all kinds of positions and their natural blow job is very hot.

Juliana.

http://www.slumi.com/guapisima-brasi...a-120-id-9muhb

She is a Brazilian escort, I prefer two previous girls than her, hes body is not so nice than Sara and Aitana, but being Brazilian knows how to behave in bed with men.

[HunterGather]

2.) Street Working girls at Calle de la Montera.

2.) Streetworking girls at Calle de la Montera: I read that there are also some good-looking girls working in that street. Some write that they are looking to good for working on the street. How to contact them without the risk to approach a "normal" girl which probably will slap me then. Any signs not to misunderstood? Do I have to approach them or will they make the "first step"? And of course where will we have sex? Is it done on the street (probably in a dark corner) or do they have a hotel room? What might be the usual price for 1 hour? And is it possible that they will come with me to my hotel? Is this common or may I get problems with the hotel reception?

I was going to post this report anyhow but it answers your second question:

I was flying through Madrid for business and had a long layover. Figured I could wander the town and monger a little to help pass the time (about 8 hours). I walked around town, saw the park Retiro, the palace, museums, then figured it was time to check out the other side I'd heard so much about Madrid. Went to Calle Montera:

You will know a girl is a working girl because she will be standing still on the street, not talking on a phone, in high heels, activate looking at men. Most likely she'll be along the sides on the street, possibly leaning against a building. She will most likely be wearing tight clothes and have some cleavage showing. When I was just there all the SW were among the northern end of the street. There's a Macdonalds there, grab a coffee and walk yourself down the street. Walk along the sides where the ladies are. If you slow down by a girl you like she will most likely immediately proposition you.

My report: Noon on a Saturday: I chose a brunette Eastern European looking girl (turn out to be from Romania). She immediately said, "oral sex" when I approached. I imagine she read my mind because I was actually only looking to get a quick BJ then head to a larger joking (chickas 7 - more on that later). I asked how much and she said 30 euro and I asked if it was with a condom she said "yes condom. " Damn, well she was definitely my type so I asked where. 8/10 body, (short and tight) 7/10 face. She said nearby. I took her okay and she started walking down the street a little bit and turned to a side street from Montera. I followed behind and honestly a TWO minute walk later (less than 100 m from where she was standing guard) she entered an apartment building. I followed behind her up the stairs and got the 30 euros out while she was in front of me (don't flash cash in this kind of place). Led to an apartment with several rooms each with a bidet. She said 5 euros for the room. I didn't put up any issue about the upsell, I know worst case I'm only going to be out 35. The rest of my money was cached on me. She English was poor and when I inquired about the condom again I think she thought I was asking for full sex. "Yes sex condom. " Was pretty much what she was responding with. We ended up just having sex LOL for the 35 euros. She rode me like a champ. Cleaned herself in the bidet before and after the deed. I think in retrospect she was saying "oral sex" as in oral and / or sex. I don't know if I would've gotten the BBBJ I was looking for by just saying "oral. " I left happy and would repeat. Just keep your wits about you there, don't flash cash and make the girl feel safe and she'll do likewise if she is well intentioned.

My question for why'all: I then had some lunch and wanted to go to chicas 7. I put the address in Google maps, walked fucking laps around that block. I found a door with the number 7 on it (address is 7 B). I rang number 7 and an old hag answered, I said sorry in Spanish and walked away. I saw a 7 B but it was on a window (behind metal bars). I felt like a moron and was running out of time to go catch my flight before I could mess with the situation much longer and left. Is chicas7 some fucking Harry Potter shit where I need to run full speed at the 7 B window? The old hag actually the bouncer? And help would be appreciated.

Stay safe.