Kyiv

[BellBottomsDJ]

Anyone have plans to be in Kiev during mid to late May?

[Vitrea]

Wanted to share my adventures in Kiev. I'm in my mid-30's, good-looking with a good sense of style, and speak fluent Russian. Going in I wanted to avoid the standard P4P, strip clubs, etc. I wanted fun with regular girls, but I only had 3 days to work with. I did stock up on about 10-12 contacts from mamba and tour bar, most of them paid but also several that never mentioned money.

Day 1........

Hope you enjoyed the report, and happy hunting!

Awesome report. Thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Thank you.

[Russel4339]

I am tired of fake photos in Mamba. Ru.

A kindle book recommended UkraineDate.com and Tinder.

I have not figured out how to use Tinder.

Is UkraineDate.com worthwhile?

I have met many nice women on UkraineDate. You have to pay the fee to be able to write them, but it is not a bad site. I have never met a women there with fake photos (maybe a little older than her photos, but they were her online).

Lastly. None of the women I have met there are pros or even part timers. Don't expect to meet women there and drop them a line about sex for money. I live in the Ukraine, so I have time to wine and dine these women. It takes several dates, but you have a pseudo girlfriend and great sex.

The pros and semi pros are much easier to find on Mamba.

[Deer1234]

I am tired of fake photos in Mamba. Ru.

A kindle book recommended UkraineDate.com and Tinder.

I have not figured out how to use Tinder.

Is UkraineDate.com worthwhile?

[Sterlo]

I have been to Kiev every two months for the last year and a half, about time I made a report. If you have time or go there regularly Tinder is a goldmine. For punting Mamba is good but you need time and to organize it before you arrive.

A few tips to filter the girls on Mamba.

Do a reverse image search.

If she is interested in a man 18-60 she is a working girl.

If there are pictures of her in Dubai she will do almost anything if the price is right.

Google the phone number she provides.

My first punt off Mamba was a blonde named Yulia, claimed to be early 30's but actually 40's and old pictures that had been touched up. Busty blonde with a nice body. For $100 she came with her friend Helen, a slim brunette with a tight body who does not speak English. They don't kiss and only Helen would eat pussy and wanted to change condom when I changed girls but both did BBJ. Started by making out with each girl and double BJ before fucking Yulia, Helen spent most of her time licking my balls or kissing Yulia breasts. Good but nothing out of the ordinary, finished on her large natural breasts and straight into Helen's mouth. I then learned that Helen gave a world class BJ, she was happy to be facefucked in pretty much any position. The sex was just as vigorous, Helen is extremely flexible and permissive. She liked having a thumb up her ass while fucking so despite the claim that they don't do anal I wasn't surprised that she didn't bat an eyelid when I started fucking her ass. She can keep her knees behind her shoulders and ankles behind her head which was fun and it was a proper three-way when we were both fucking her. Finished in Helen's mouth again.

Rested for a while and both girls massaged me before Yulia climbed in for round two. To be honest I wanted to do Helen again but it was hard to argue. The second time around she was much more enthusiastic, not that the first was bad, but I think she felt competitive after seeing that Helen was definitely the better piece of ass but still not willing to do anal. Finished inside her and then tore the condom off to have Helen clean up with her mouth again.

It was late so we showered up, Helen spent most of the shower on her knees before I helped myself to her ass again. It was fun and I saw them once more but there are plenty of younger and hotter girls in Kiev. Will probably do it again next time but only for the fact that Helen lets her mouth get used so hard.

[Sterlo]

Depends on what kind of Muslim girl. A Muslim girl who is westernized and moneyed tends to be spoiled (whether in the West or say in Dubai or here in Toronto or over in States). But a Muslim girl from from the EE countries tend to be like their Slavic counterparts. Among the many muslim girls, I still remember Layla, a student from Crimea studying in Kiev. Spoke broken English. I met her on Kreschatyk in one of the evenings 3-4 years back. 175 cms, 20 years old, athletic blond with a body to match. We ended up having sex all night. She stayed at least 10 hours. All for 100 $. Never saw her again. True gems like that are rare. Diamonds in the rough.

I have lived in the Middle East for several years and speak Arabic, fucked plenty of Muslim girls. They are much the same as any other girls but those who do fuck before marriage tend to do a lot of it. Surprisingly a lot cheat once they are married. If you are in the Middle East the best idea is to find a Catholic Church and find out when they have a tagalog service.

[LastPlayer]

Hello Reef,

Thank you for your reply and sorry for late mine.

In general when I go abroad I always try to take my chance with non-pros if I have got enough time.

I will be in Kiev just for 3 days and don't want to return home empty handed. This is the reason I will check Rio as it seems the only place to achieve a good result. I will of course try my chance in clubs like Coyote, Forsage, D'lux etc. And Rio will be my safe house.

As per your review on Rio it seems nothing to fear about being ripped off and that is a quite enough feedback for me.

Takeout for one of the Rio girls in 300 USD for 2-3 hours.

You watch the girls dance on stage, and when you see one you like, you let the boucer know with either a tip for her, a drink or you can also try private dance with her on premises.

If I had taken the one I met on my first night, I'm pretty sure it would have been one of the memorable fuckfests of my life. But I failed to make a decision.

Actually, I waited until my last night to take one home (another one), and she was a waste of time and money.

Sh! T happens, I guess.

[Misc123]

I wonder about this, too. I guess maybe it has something to do with traditional gender roles in their society. Men are supposed to be bread winners, be strong. Women's roles are to be at home, to take care of children, to cook and clean, and to satisfy men in bed.

This makes me think that women from Islamic cultures also are also great fucks because they also have traditional gender roles. Can anyone with experience with Muslim girls confirm?

Depends on what kind of Muslim girl. A Muslim girl who is westernized and moneyed tends to be spoiled (whether in the West or say in Dubai or here in Toronto or over in States). But a Muslim girl from from the EE countries tend to be like their Slavic counterparts. Among the many muslim girls, I still remember Layla, a student from Crimea studying in Kiev. Spoke broken English. I met her on Kreschatyk in one of the evenings 3-4 years back. 175 cms, 20 years old, athletic blond with a body to match. We ended up having sex all night. She stayed at least 10 hours. All for 100 $. Never saw her again. True gems like that are rare. Diamonds in the rough.

[Jonathan Pine]

I often wonder why that is. I think partly because Slavs have an anathema towards work. The girls aren't fatigued by jobs, have few children, and mostly live without all the meaningless crap. Feminism is still weak in the East. The girls just don't have the consequential hatred towards their men like the "fat beatches" out West.

I wonder about this, too. I guess maybe it has something to do with traditional gender roles in their society. Men are supposed to be bread winners, be strong. Women's roles are to be at home, to take care of children, to cook and clean, and to satisfy men in bed.

This makes me think that women from Islamic cultures also are also great fucks because they also have traditional gender roles. Can anyone with experience with Muslim girls confirm?

[Riina]

Slavic girls know how to fuck and how to please a man.

I often wonder why that is. I think partly because Slavs have an anathema towards work. The girls aren't fatigued by jobs, have few children, and mostly live without all the meaningless crap. Feminism is still weak in the East. The girls just don't have the consequential hatred towards their men like the "fat beatches" out West.

[Boofer]

Please advise websites that locals use?

Regards.

[Hedonist]

He, he, actually, a nightclub run by a Turk (Shooters) used to face-control Turks. So, it is doable.

No matter what they say in social circles, Ukie and Russian girls dig dark men and do fuck well-behaving Turks like bunnies unless they are super elitnaya. Attitude towards carpet / arbuz sellers flooding Kiev nightclubs thanks to budget airlines is a different story. I had the good fortune of living in Ukraine at some point in my life. I have fond memories of fucking in trains, in my car, in girls' cars, in the forest, by the lake, girls from clubs, girls in clubs, some of my coworkers, my Russian teacher, sisters, in threesomes, etc, etc.

With a bit of Russian and time, Kiev would satisfy and surprise any decent man. For P4P there are more predictable and practical destinations for sure (Thailand, FKK, etc.), in those places quality of sex will never match what a desiring Slavic will let you enjoy. Slavic girls know how to fuck and how to please a man.

Stop complaining. Up your game.

But you pay attention how much in these Kievan night clubs the guys from Turkey? When there had been an engineer of Finland and the IT specialist from Frankfurt and funny guys from Canada or the US was not bad. Now some girls already think seven times before you go to a nightclub. The more that Ukrainians chicks is not Thai or Colombian girls. Ukrainians girls it poor but proud European peoples. Quite proud and independent. These guys from Turkey came from a conservative Muslim society. And they think that is all these beautiful girl is a working girls and every girl dream suck Turkish dick for 30 dollars. And behave often very aggressive and rude. But it can not do anything against. You also can not prohibit these hot guys to travel to Ukraine) or you will not be let into the club of all who have a Turkish passport? Of course no, it be racism. This club will be accused of racism.

Turkey is nearly 100 million inhabitants and it is near Ukraine. I know that of the girls say me that are now in last time the any smart Turks have invented new ways to get acquainted and meet with girls. They say that they are hot Spaniards, or Italians, or other south European peoples.

Some photos of my visits to the Sumy and Charkiw. Slim Ania. Sumy. Old good friend. Good BJ, no CIM, no anal unfortunately. Smart gentle girl. She writes poetry. I m little helping her financially. Ready to action, after sex etc, a visit to the sauna and deep throat BJ. Another good friends -Ksiusha and Lena. Sumy (northern Ukraine), 2015. (Helping them financially also).

[LuisVega11]

Wanted to share my adventures in Kiev. I'm in my mid-30's, good-looking with a good sense of style, and speak fluent Russian. Going in I wanted to avoid the standard P4P, strip clubs, etc. I wanted fun with regular girls, but I only had 3 days to work with. I did stock up on about 10-12 contacts from mamba and tour bar, most of them paid but also several that never mentioned money.

Day 1.

I land around 6 pm and fire up the hookup apps and start matching. In a cab on the way to my airbnb near Maidan Nezalezhnosti I'm talking to several dozen matches, with two girls willing to meet me for dinner within a few hours. I choose a 27 why / o woman and agree to meet at the Odessa Restaurant, which is near her house. We're all flirty over Tinder, so it looks promising. The girl looks like an 8-9 in her pics.

I end up waiting for her for nearly half an hour. When she finally arrives, she's more of a 7. Great body, decent face. We eat dinner, which is as expensive as it gets in Ukraine. Odessa has great atmosphere, but I expected more from the food. The bill ends up being around 1.7 k UAH with tip, and by then I'm not expecting much. The girl is definitely interested in me long-term, but she's not putting out tonight. I walk her home and make a move anyway, but she doesn't go for it. Strike one...

Hi,

Uber how much cost?

Mamba girl, any link to profile? Price?

[RocketMan0010]

Meant to link the erotic massage place but forgot: http://www.kapriz-salon.kiev.ua/.

[RocketMan0010]

Wanted to share my adventures in Kiev. I'm in my mid-30's, good-looking with a good sense of style, and speak fluent Russian. Going in I wanted to avoid the standard P4P, strip clubs, etc. I wanted fun with regular girls, but I only had 3 days to work with. I did stock up on about 10-12 contacts from mamba and tour bar, most of them paid but also several that never mentioned money.

Day 1.

I land around 6 pm and fire up the hookup apps and start matching. In a cab on the way to my airbnb near Maidan Nezalezhnosti I'm talking to several dozen matches, with two girls willing to meet me for dinner within a few hours. I choose a 27 why / o woman and agree to meet at the Odessa Restaurant, which is near her house. We're all flirty over Tinder, so it looks promising. The girl looks like an 8-9 in her pics.

I end up waiting for her for nearly half an hour. When she finally arrives, she's more of a 7. Great body, decent face. We eat dinner, which is as expensive as it gets in Ukraine. Odessa has great atmosphere, but I expected more from the food. The bill ends up being around 1.7 k UAH with tip, and by then I'm not expecting much. The girl is definitely interested in me long-term, but she's not putting out tonight. I walk her home and make a move anyway, but she doesn't go for it. Strike one.

I take an Uber home (that's right, Ukraine has Uber now- bye, taxi mafia!) and start looking at other prospects, though it's already pretty late. Another Tinder match, 21 y/ o. We start talking. She's very direct and only wants sex, no mention of money. Most would consider her a 7, but I'm very attracted to sex fiends, and she obviously is one, so that bumps her up in my book. I offer to send an Uber for her and she agrees. But then she goes silent and stops answering. It's 3 am, and I go to sleep tired and unfulfilled.

Day 2.

In the morning the girl responds, apologizing- she's apparently fallen asleep after showering. I send an Uber for her and she arrives around 11 am. We end up making a real connection, great conversation, etc. And incredible sex. We spend the whole day together without even going out for food. I put her in an Uber back home around 6 pm. I would readily spend the rest of my time in Kiev with her (the sex is that good), but she says she'll be very busy working over the next few days so no promises. So, I decide to use the evening to scout out for other options.

I chat up another Tinder match and make plans to walk around the city and grab dinner. Similar story: 8-9 in the pics, more like 7 in real life. 30 y/ o. We spend a few hours together and eat at Very Well Cafe (got to love these names). Very tasty food, and not very expensive at all. After feeling her out, I realize she's also interested in long-term, and I wouldn't be getting any in the immediate future. I don't bother making a move, and just walk her to the Subway, then head to my place. I'm not upset since this was more of an insurance play, and the woman was fun company otherwise.

Day 3.

My first choice is the Tinder girl from yesterday, so I wait for her to disclose availability. She manages to sneak away to grab lunch with me, but then is called into work. Chances of seeing her later are slim, so I consider other options. I feel like a massage, and after some research I decide to give erotic massage a try. Arrive at their location near Admiralskaya Metro, and go up to the apt. I don't usually do rub-and-tugs- this is mainly for curiosity's sake.

Four girls are working. Dasha, Masha, Yuliya and Inna. I go with Inna who seems to have the best personality of the bunch. I chose right. Very sweet girl, face a 7 but body is absolutely rocking incredibly sexy with perfect tits. Classic massage, erotic massage and Lingam massage that I wanted to try. I'm very nice to Inna, and she's very nice to me in return. A lot of touching and very pleasant sensations- definitely recommend to anyone who hasn't tried it. Inna gets really into it and goes over by at least 10-15 minutes. Damage: 1200 UAH plus a fat tip for the extra mile. I try to get her contact so as to meet with her outside the salon, but no dice- she just doesn't do it.

I get back to the apt and start planning the next day. My Tinder girl is AWOL, and I'm flying out the following evening, so no time left for anything less than a sure thing. I have another match that's willing to come over, but she's more of a 5 and I want to end on a high note, so I look through my mamba prospects and start talking to a few of my top choices. One of them is available to meet the next morning, and we arrange it. The quote is $100 for 2 hours. There were cheaper options available and a few pricier ones, but this is one of my top choices.

Day 4.

The mamba girl arrives at 9 am. She's as close to a 10 in pictures as it gets, and for once real life doesn't disappoint. This girl is stunning. 20 y/ o college student who clearly doesn't do this all the time. Lots of kissing, DATY, she insists on CIM for the first pop. Second pop I elect to cum inside (covered, obviously). She ends up staying 3 hours instead of 2, and seems very happy to do it. Not a mention of more $. I spend the rest of the time sightseeing and enjoying the city, then fly out in the evening.

Overall, I'm very satisfied with the trip. The Tinder girl and I are keeping in contact for next time. In fact, I can definitely see myself wanting to see both the massage and the mamba girl again on future visits. For me, it's quality over quantity, so I'm not disparaged by *only* two girls over 3.5 days. The erotic / lingam massage is a worthwhile experience, too.

Pro tip: be a human being to these women! Read Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People. I know I have more going for me than the prototypical monger, but I'm neither super handsome nor super rich. The reason I got such good service with girls 2 and 3 was because I was nice to them and didn't treat them like a commodity, which made them want to please me in return. The approach may not be typical, but I stand by it.

Hope you enjoyed the report, and happy hunting!