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  1. #53258
    Quote Originally Posted by SiamMan  [View Original Post]
    Absolutely. For anything more than a one-off ST, the girl's personality, attitude, and fun-factor is as important, if not more important than her looks alone.
    Agree 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by MomoFarang  [View Original Post]
    Been with my girl for nearly 14 years, dunno what you are talking about.
    Spending an hour with a girl, then thinking that same rapport will last a week ... Not saying it can't happen, my travel companion I've known 16+ years. All I'm saying is, I'd take her for a couple of sequential LT's in town BEFORE taking off for a week. That way, if EITHER wants to bail, it's easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I've done this and so has my buddy. If taking a non-P4P Thai girl on a long trip, we pay them whatever they lost from missing time at work. My buddy paid his government worker girlfriend the 30,000 per month that she claimed she earned, later I learned that she earned 20,000 baht per month. He also paid an airport worker the 18,000 for the month she missed work. I did similar with girls that I've taken away from work for a long period of time.
    Likewise, I pay my companion her monthly salary when she takes off of work (shop clerk). Food, travel costs, some souvenirs, clothes for her (what she SAVES me in my souvenirs worth the cost of hers), etc., covered, plus a red envelope at the end. She doesn't lose any money, makes a little extra, and has a (mostly) nice holiday (she does have to put up with me, good thing she has a sense of humor).

  2. #53257
    Duagporn (not) MP
    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have an address for Duagporn massage parlor is? I cannot find it on google. Thanks MG.
    I believe it was a misquote about MP. For me, Duagporn (Haven) is the real, but little used, name for the moved Som's Haven. Som's was originally off of Soi (8-12 somewhere in there), next to a POPULAR restaurant. A NUMBER of years ago, changed name, and it moved to a small Soi near Asoke, 1st small Soi on Ratchadaphisek (continuation of Asoke road) past Sukhumvit, walking towards Queen Srikit Convention Center, right hand side when walking away from Sukhumvit, across the soi from the City Point hotel. Google Maps, street view (still has the Manikin Pis, see attached)


    Gems
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin00  [View Original Post]
    Later on I went strolling soi 23 and saw some cuties in front of MP. I went to the one with most young and fit ladies, and picked a young 22 yo spinner. Perfect body, petite, silicon boobs but great tattoos all over! I could not resist so fucked her right away in a great session, enjoyed so much that fit body and her funny smile. The massage afterward was light, but I was not expecting much on that front. I took her number and definitely will invite her to my premises.
    I've certainly found a number on an afternoon's stroll down Soi 23. It might be someone else's slag heap, but for me, sifting through the tailings, some nuggets can be found.


    Bier Garten
    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys, can anyone tell me me the biergarden is still open? I had some good luck there a few years ago. Thanks for any replies.
    In Nov 2022, an absolute SHELL of its former self. First visit around noon, literally EMPTY, seems like it was just opening, 3 waitresses, NO customers. Another visit, mid-afternoon, maybe a dozen old farts like me, a bit less WOMEN looking for company. Did not see the cute waitress I've seen there for a decade. It was like the end of the world. HOPEFULLY, it will pick up, especially with the beer bar area next to it. Otherwise, perhaps to be on the auction block for another hotel.


    BC Pills
    Quote Originally Posted by SiamMan  [View Original Post]
    In my experience over the years most wg's who have been at it for any length of time will be using birth control pills, however, a frequent problem seems to be her forgetting to take it some nights, often due to too much alcohol, so even if she says she is "on the pill' it can't be 100% relied upon. The "morning after" pills are easily available here and often used too as a back up.
    That's what I would surmise, along with the forgetful attitude, along with a it won't happen attitude after the fact.


    Its not the same as it was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Margaya  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for sharing this info with us.
    I kept on reading conflicting information about availability of freelancers in Bangkok and Pattaya. Many posters on this forum said it is almost back to pre pendamic levels but whenever I tried to analyze the beach road videos on you tube, I could easily figure out that the numbers are barely 20% of what they used to be.
    For the first time in my mongering life, I had to cancel a ticket to Thailand. No use flying to the other side of world just to see mongering world hit by bombs. Its pretty bad in other countries as well.
    Looks like we will have to wait few more months for scene to pick up a bit.
    My feeling on this always reminds me of the last scene in the The Wild Bunch: "It ain't like it used to be, but, uh, it'll do."
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Duagporn.jpg‎  

  3. #53256

    Duangporn Haven

    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have an address for Duagporn massage parlor is? I cannot find it on google. Thanks MG.
    Is just off Ratchadapisek Road it is the first Soi when coming from Asok Sukhumvit intersection. Opposite city.

    Point hotel.

    Don't worry the girls will not let you walk past without letting you know they are around.

  4. #53255

    Duagporn massage parlor

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin00  [View Original Post]
    Following the wise suggestion today I went and looks for gems! I started in Duagporn MP and had a nice session with a lady big tits and big smile. She definitely was a pro in the BJ, so I see the recruitment department is doing great on that front! 1200 bath in the small room.

    Later on I went strolling soi 23 and saw some cuties in front of MP. I went to the one with most young and fit ladies, and picked a young 22 yo spinner. Perfect body, petite, silicon boobs but great tattoos all over! I could not resist so fucked her right away in a great session, enjoyed so much that fit body and her funny smile. The massage afterward was light, but I was not expecting much on that front. I took her number and definitely will invite her to my premises.

    I stopped for a beer in Baccara where I also offered a lady drink and groped a bit a smiling lady that was offering her services. BF was 800 and she asked 3 k, LOL, I declined.

    I headed back home to go to sleep, and passing by Nana Plaza my mind (or dick?) changed the plan. In the deluge of ladyboys, I spotted two young ladies sitting on a scooter. I stopped to talk to them, they were cute and actually sisters, lookalike. Slim, smiling, one speaking more English. I asked how much and said 1500ST, so I asked for both and was 3 k, for which I said 1 h and I want to come two times! They laughed, and said yes. Off we go to my place. What a session! The one speaking less English was very accommodating in terms of kissing, sucking, fucking. They were both petite and slim as I like, smiling, having fun. In the first round I shagged one, in the second round the second one, but all the time I was interacting with both. I did a threesome time ago but was a failure, but today was such a success that I'll repeat with them for sure!

    BKK is harder than in the past, but there's still a lot to enjoy hidden among the turisty stuff.
    Anyone have an address for Duagporn massage parlor is? I cannot find it on google. Thanks MG.

  5. #53254

    Great reports Kaiser. Question about The Pimp

    Hey Kaiser. Thanks for the great reports.

    Thinking about going to the Pimp with the missus. Did you see any couples there? Wondering if they're fine with it or a bit offish?

  6. #53253

    Look for gems!

    Following the wise suggestion today I went and looks for gems! I started in Duagporn MP and had a nice session with a lady big tits and big smile. She definitely was a pro in the BJ, so I see the recruitment department is doing great on that front! 1200 bath in the small room.

    Later on I went strolling soi 23 and saw some cuties in front of MP. I went to the one with most young and fit ladies, and picked a young 22 yo spinner. Perfect body, petite, silicon boobs but great tattoos all over! I could not resist so fucked her right away in a great session, enjoyed so much that fit body and her funny smile. The massage afterward was light, but I was not expecting much on that front. I took her number and definitely will invite her to my premises.

    I stopped for a beer in Baccara where I also offered a lady drink and groped a bit a smiling lady that was offering her services. BF was 800 and she asked 3 k, LOL, I declined.

    I headed back home to go to sleep, and passing by Nana Plaza my mind (or dick?) changed the plan. In the deluge of ladyboys, I spotted two young ladies sitting on a scooter. I stopped to talk to them, they were cute and actually sisters, lookalike. Slim, smiling, one speaking more English. I asked how much and said 1500ST, so I asked for both and was 3 k, for which I said 1 h and I want to come two times! They laughed, and said yes. Off we go to my place. What a session! The one speaking less English was very accommodating in terms of kissing, sucking, fucking. They were both petite and slim as I like, smiling, having fun. In the first round I shagged one, in the second round the second one, but all the time I was interacting with both. I did a threesome time ago but was a failure, but today was such a success that I'll repeat with them for sure!

    BKK is harder than in the past, but there's still a lot to enjoy hidden among the turisty stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    You are correct. Lady Boys are proliferating all over lower Suk from Soi 1-28, especially around Sofitel and Hyatt to Soi 11. If you see a cute looking "girl", she is probably not a GG but LB. The only GG's I see in this area are woeful looking Milfs.
    I don't know the going rate at Thermae as its pointless for farangs to go but not surprised to hear these prices and only Japanese punters appear willing to pay. NEP is even worse when you factor in bar fine, Lady drinks etc.

    You have to now have some game and street smarts to be successful in BKK. Go to alternate locations, small bars, coffee shops, etc. And look for gems. They are around but it's a bit like sifting for gold in a stream. Patience and hard work now required.

  7. #53252

    Paying Your Thai Holiday Girlfriend

    I've done this and so has my buddy. If taking a non-P4P Thai girl on a long trip, we pay them whatever they lost from missing time at work. My buddy paid his government worker girlfriend the 30,000 per month that she claimed she earned, later I learned that she earned 20,000 baht per month. He also paid an airport worker the 18,000 for the month she missed work. I did similar with girls that I've taken away from work for a long period of time.

    My buddy actually found a wonderful wife with that process. They have now been happily married for 4 years and living in USA. None of these girls were P4P, they all had jobs unrelated to sex industry. Probably even better if their jobs are unrelated to the tourist industry.

  8. #53251
    The first day, everything's fine, it's an amazing adventure. The next day, he wants to do this, but she's tired, she wants to check her phone, catch up with her friends, sleep, post her adventure. But she goes along. The 3rd day, he's bored, her glow has dissipated, and she's tired of his annoying habits (we all have them). I'm amazed that there aren't more homicides, one way or the other ... Money is a glue for awhile, but to put up with another person, any person, MY experience, has to be more than just a romp in bed or cash in hand. All those originally unseen imperfections start to become apparent on both sides. Fantasy is fine, but then reality sets in. Even LT, excluding sleep, how many hours are you really interacting with the other, and then having to do that sequentially for a number of days ... One of those ideas that seemed like a good idea at the time. But maybe I'm just a grump. Personally, in Thailand, I have my regulars, once a week sufficient for several, but for the other days, always looking for different. I'm sure they're happy with that arrangement too.

    Been with my girl for nearly 14 years, dunno what you are talking about.

  9. #53250
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I no longer commit to any one girl for more than a ST date unless I first know her pretty well. For a week together, think more than a month of daily video chats. I'm really old and I have lower standards than most regarding physical appearance. But I'm very demanding when it comes to a girl's personality and her ability to hold a conversation.
    Absolutely. For anything more than a one-off ST, the girl's personality, attitude, and fun-factor is as important, if not more important than her looks alone.

  10. #53249
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo  [View Original Post]
    My thoughts too. I don't need any more squad members at my age. Condoms are far from fullproof, but certainly better than the rhythm method. I'm not all that familiar with the commonality of birth control pills with the wg's, but even if she said she was, I would have my doubts. Any comments from residents?
    In my experience over the years most wg's who have been at it for any length of time will be using birth control pills, however, a frequent problem seems to be her forgetting to take it some nights, often due to too much alcohol, so even if she says she is "on the pill' it can't be 100% relied upon. The "morning after" pills are easily available here and often used too as a back up.

  11. #53248

    Old report

    I looked for the pricing report under your name but could not find it. Do you know the number of the report? Nevertheless, it appears that given this particular SYT just started working at a local bar, not a go go, that between $1 k to $1500 might work. I don't know about the comment from the OP about no reason to pay a BF. This girl just started working there and they might take a dim view of her taking off for a week and returning tan and rested and the bar, where I met her, getting no compensation for her absence. But perhaps, the BF can be negotiated a bit.

    As it is, I am not sure she would be the best company but it depends on how my daytime and early evening dates goes with her tomorrow. The other reason I was thinking of doing this is because I have read PhiPhi and AO Nong only have moderate nightlife and may not have a lot of spare girls around. Don't know about that since I have never been to either location. Also, like someone below noted, six days could be an eternity if things go south. Three days most couples could endure but after that…Maybe just take her to Ao Nong for three days, the flight for that location leaves and departs from Krabi to BKK.

    I am also an older guy too so the idea of hanging in the bars on the beaches every night looking for a prospect does not sound all that appealing. I remember once going to Ko Samui and being quite disappointed about Lamang area. The talent was abysmal. A total waste of time. But for me, if the girl is fun and reasonably attractive and also does not bore easily then I might consider this option.

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    About 6 weeks ago I had two detailed discussions about vacation girlfriend rates. One girl was a very well preserved older girl (49, she claimed) and said she gets 2000 per day, but when I balked at the price she said for me it would be 1000 per day. A couple days later I talked to one of my ST Nana Plaza girls who claimed to be 21 and I was her first ever boom boom customer (555), she said 20,000 per week for her plus a week of bar fines at 800 per day. Neither of these girls had a personality that I could tolerate for a week. Probably couldn't tolerate either for an overnight date.

    I no longer commit to any one girl for more than a ST date unless I first know her pretty well. For a week together, think more than a month of daily video chats. I'm really old and I have lower standards than most regarding physical appearance. But I'm very demanding when it comes to a girl's personality and her ability to hold a conversation.

  12. #53247
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Agree. I am amazed at guys who come to Thailand and go out with a girl for an hour then want to take her away for a week. Then by the end of the week they are so bored with that girl and tell me how there were so many nice girls at the destination they went to. Happens all the time.

    For me to spend a week with a girl she better be able to make me laugh a lot and speak English extremely well.
    Ah, the ignorance of youth, unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality. For relatively very little money, you'll have this subservient Asian beauty at your every beck and call, every whim, hanging on your every nuance, no will of her own.

    The first day, everything's fine, it's an amazing adventure. The next day, he wants to do this, but she's tired, she wants to check her phone, catch up with her friends, sleep, post her adventure. But she goes along. The 3rd day, he's bored, her glow has dissipated, and she's tired of his annoying habits (we all have them). I'm amazed that there aren't more homicides, one way or the other ... Money is a glue for awhile, but to put up with another person, any person, MY experience, has to be more than just a romp in bed or cash in hand. All those originally unseen imperfections start to become apparent on both sides. Fantasy is fine, but then reality sets in. Even LT, excluding sleep, how many hours are you really interacting with the other, and then having to do that sequentially for a number of days ... One of those ideas that seemed like a good idea at the time. But maybe I'm just a grump. Personally, in Thailand, I have my regulars, once a week sufficient for several, but for the other days, always looking for different. I'm sure they're happy with that arrangement too.

    Not saying it can't be done. Not Thailand, I travel with a friend in her country for weeks at a time. But we knew each other for almost a year, 1 night a week, beforehand, and she tolerates me quite well, which I truly admire. She enjoys seeing her own country (common interests), she speaks the language, I don't, and I set the itinerary and she handles the logistics. It works, but it's not something that happens instantaneously. You have to build up an immunity against the other person's irks ....

  13. #53246

    Thermae 2500/2700 were quotes I got

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin00  [View Original Post]
    Lot of people around as it was Friday night, checked out Thermae but ladies were quoting crazy 3-4 k for short time! Some were cute but those numbers I guess only japanese would pay?
    Are you white? Tall? Big? I'm asian not sure if that matters but was quoted 2500/2700 for the only two I found attractive on my first visit there. Was it earlier in the day? Maybe later on the price lowers? Think was around 1030 when I got my quotes.

  14. #53245
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin00  [View Original Post]
    Wood bar was empty and 1 lady only around 11 pm.

    Lot of people around as it was Friday night, checked out Thermae but ladies were quoting crazy 3-4 k for short time! Some were cute but those numbers I guess only japanese would pay?

    Sukumvith still invaded by ladyboy from soi1 to soi 28. Maybe 3-4 ladies in total, only one possibly doable.

    African ladies strolling, but I'm not here for black meat.

    Am I missing anything or this is the situation in bkk now?
    That's what I saw last night. Plus thermae was empty at midnight.

  15. #53244
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Agree. I am amazed at guys who come to Thailand and go out with a girl for an hour then want to take her away for a week. Then by the end of the week they are so bored with that girl and tell me how there were so many nice girls at the destination they went to. Happens all the time!
    Buddy of mine said back in 02, "Many guys don't come to Thailand to f& working girls, they come here to date working girls."

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