Philippine politics and economics

[Kabul Guy]

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I doubt your girl will ever return to Thailand and put her degree to use. And why would she.

Someone who an put away a million tax free would be able to find a use for the skills of a management degree. She could start a legitimate business and do well with that sort of grub stake.

[Goferring]

I've been seeing this Thai prostitute "Cha Cha" in Sydney for the past 5-years. She's been studying "management" for the past 6- years, by reducing her subject load and by extending her visa every few years. In fact, the entire brothel where she works is full of Thai students. She has earned over $1 million, tax free, over the past 5-years. Considering she shares an apartment with 3 other students and her costs are so low, that's a lot of money to send back to Thailand.

Again, I don't disagree with what you are saying but I see it as an illegitimate use of the Student Visa system rather than a legitimate student who turns to brothels due to limited funds.

I doubt your girl will ever return to Thailand and put her degree to use. And why would she.

[Engine Driver]

I agree with what you have said earlier but I don't get your connection. A full fee overseas education with accommodation and living expenses is hardly cheap. Any one able to spare that amount is unlikely to have little Suzie on her back to help pay for the books.

I'm certainly not aware of many Indonesian, Vietnamese or Chinese students on the streets.

The illegitimate use of Student Visas is something entirely different and happens all the time.

Enjoy, G.

Not all students from Asia who go to Australia have the financial means to complete their course. They show doctored bank statements to get the visa. Once in Australia, they just work in any job they can get, usually cash in hand, to evade immigration and taxation officials. Waiting tables, kitchen hands, cleaning etc are the usual jobs they take. Many Chinese and Thai female students reduce their school work load to a few hours a week and then go about earning serious money to send back home. A Thai girl in a rub and tug shop, willing to do nude body-to-body rubs, can easily make over $1,000 a day. If she works 4 days a week, that's $200 K a year, tax free. This explains why even after 4-5 years in Australia, most Thais are unable to speak more than a few words of English (ie. They don't bother studying).

I've been seeing this Thai prostitute "Cha Cha" in Sydney for the past 5-years. She's been studying "management" for the past 6- years, by reducing her subject load and by extending her visa every few years. In fact, the entire brothel where she works is full of Thai students. She has earned over $1 million, tax free, over the past 5-years. Considering she shares an apartment with 3 other students and her costs are so low, that's a lot of money to send back to Thailand.

[Goferring]

Filipina women also don't go abroad to study as their medium of instruction is English in their homeland, thus depriving the West of another group of prostitutes.

I agree with what you have said earlier but I don't get your connection. A full fee overseas education with accommodation and living expenses is hardly cheap. Any one able to spare that amount is unlikely to have little Suzie on her back to help pay for the books.

I'm certainly not aware of many Indonesian, Vietnamese or Chinese students on the streets.

The illegitimate use of Student Visas is something entirely different and happens all the time.

Enjoy, G.

[Engine Driver]

Economic disparity between Western countries and developing countries is precisely what brings Western men to the Philippines to buy sex and frames the practical realities that draw Filipinas into prostitution and husband hunting.

The West has grown extremely wealthy over the past 40-years. This is why you no longer see significant numbers of Western women resorting to prostitution in Australia, US, Canada, Germany, France or UK. There is no longer an economic necessity for a western woman to become a prostitute or even a masseur due access to eduction, excellent legitimate employment prospects and a generous welfare safety net. In my country Australia, the sex industry is almost completely dominated by Asian women, who usually travel on dodgy student or tourist visas. There are very few Filipina prostitutes in Australia as the ones that come here are attached to an Australian man, hence don't have financial need. Filipina women also don't go abroad to study as their medium of instruction is English in their homeland, thus depriving the West of another group of prostitutes.

[Kabul Guy]

Much of the impassioned side conversation about politics in the United States or other countries is tangential to the immediate purpose of ISG. But it is not unrelated. .....

This forum is Philippines Politics and Economy so I would think the right place for the sort of discussion you are talking about. A discussion on the impact of politics on local life and events.

There is another forum on bar stool chat which I think is to be an open discussion forum, anything that you would discuss in a bar is far game for that one. That would cover everything from women to sports to politics (world wide) and religion.

Like in a bar chat, if it gets too heated take it outside but have a thick skin about anything discussed. If you don't want to listen to a discussipon, ignore it and chat to the guy on the stool on the other side.

[Soapy Smith]

Trump got the electoral college votes fair and square. The college voted as they were suppose to vote. Electoral College was set up for exactly for this so no one state with an overwhelming vote could run off with the election.

The social studies teacher in me must respond. The intent and design of the Electoral College has evolved over time. The initial concern was about no candidate receiving enough votes to win as various states support their own "favorite sons. " How about this Philippine source? Looks correct to me.

https://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMAT...ge_history.php

The principal corrective to prevent the bigger states from overwhelming the interests of the smaller states (referred to as "tyranny of the majority") was resolved by the "Connecticut Compromise," which created the Senate in which all states had the same number of members. It was negotiated primarily by James Madison, in his 30's at the time, who went around at night to the Philadelphia inns and taverns where the various state delegations were lodging. Bottom line: the Senate was created by a bunch of drunk representatives to the Constitutional Convention.

Apologies to those who don't want to read about anything but Filipina pussy.

[Soapy Smith]

Now why would someone assume the majority of people reading a pussy forum want to read about USA politics? Talk about the girls, politics, situation etc of what's happening in the Philippines on a Philippine review board. There's plenty of forums and message boards to vent about US politics in the US.

I am puzzled (possible a bit sad too) why there is even a need for such a thread on a board entitled "International Sex Guide"? Surely guys can express their opinions in their local bar without having to bring it to a board like this.

Much of the impassioned side conversation about politics in the United States or other countries is tangential to the immediate purpose of ISG. But it is not unrelated. The period of American colonialismand continued military presence in the Philippines--shaped life in the Philippines and the sex trades in AC and Olongapo in particular, in significant ways, not all of them for the better. Granted, Marcos was removed 32 years ago, but his influence, propped up as it was especially by American interests, continues in significant ways in the Philippines. His son almost became Vice President, his widow is a member of Congress, and his daughter is a provincial governor. But the real influences run much deeper.

Various posters in the forum draw attention to the importance of Philippine cultural practices in trying to understand the sex trade and Filipinas more generally. But the politics and economics of the Global North frame the Philippine sex trade in ways that are perhaps more important than Philippine culture. Economic disparity between Western countries and developing countries is precisely what brings Western men to the Philippines to buy sexand frames the practical realities that draw Filipinas into prostitution and husband hunting. If the United States or European Union gets an economic sniffle or an increase of a few cents for gasoline, the Philippine piso and farmers in the provinces catch pneumonia. Duterte may think that he has isolated the Philippines from the influence of critics in the United States, Europe, and the Vatican, but perhaps he hasn't recently checked the value of the piso against other currencies.

It is true that much of the political passion that gets expressed does not reflect on its influence in the Philippines, but to assume that stalking Filipinas for sex is unrelated to the economics and politics of industrialized countries seems a little short-sighted. Even well-established expats depend on the economics and policies of their home countries for many parts of their livelihoods. Development consultants in particular depend on the political climates in donor countries to continue bilateral aid that supports their work. Simply stated, none of us engage in sex with Filipinas in isolation from broader economic and political dynamics.

I am perhaps part of a small group of forum participants who try to understand sex in the Philippines within a broader cultural, political, historical, and economic context. If I should limit my input to commentary about the old in-out, in-out, I would welcome being referred to other English language boards that focus on the broader Philippine context. Life is short and I can be easily persuaded to take my thoughts elsewhere.

[Red Kilt]

Now why would someone assume the majority of people reading a pussy forum want to read about USA politics? <SNIP> There's plenty of forums and message boards to vent about US politics in the US.

I am puzzled (possible a bit sad too) why there is even a need for such a thread on a board entitled "International Sex Guide"?

Surely guys can express their opinions in their local bar without having to bring it to a board like this.

It's a thread that I easily ignore (except this once LOL).

[Dg8787]

Actually, Hillary Clinton won the vote by almost 3 million. The Electoral Collage, 538 people, awarded Trump the presidency anyway, something they were not bound by law to do and merely chose to do on their own. And not even all of them.

Trump got the electoral college votes fair and square. The college voted as they were suppose to vote. Electoral College was set up for exactly for this so no one state with an overwhelming vote could run off with the election.

I did not vote for Trump but I do recognize him to be the President of my country. For better or worse he is the President of United States.

[EihTooms]

But not undeserved.

You guys elected Trump.

Enough said.

Actually, Hillary Clinton won the vote by almost 3 million. The Electoral Collage, 538 people, awarded Trump the presidency anyway, something they were not bound by law to do and merely chose to do on their own. And not even all of them.

[Breadman]

In the past we had a thread entitled "USA Politics," but for some reason it was taken down. Anybody know why?.

Now why would someone assume the majority of people reading a pussy forum want to read about USA politics? Talk about the girls, politics, situation etc of what's happening in the Philippines on a Philippine review board. There's plenty of forums and message boards to vent about US politics in the US.

[Member #4698]

In the past we had a thread entitled "USA Politics," but for some reason it was taken down. Anybody know why?

I understand that this title seems totally unrelated to getting laid in the Philippines, but it was helpful at times as a place to redirect political conversations that sprung up in other threads. Natty is correct that this particular conversation doesn't fit here.

I have been guilty of fueling some of these errant conversations. I think issues from American politics in particular spring up because a) yanks are very politically divided at present and b) for various reasons people from other countries, including ISG members, sometimes don't like us very much. And something must be wrong when we simultaneously p..s off the Canadians and the Mexicans.

I sure do wish we still had the USA Politics thread.

I think the "USA Politics" thread was taken down because it became too contentious and argumentative. That is what I was alluding to when I wrote that these posts will "result in getting the whole conversation deleted sooner rather than later. " There is a fucking civil war going on in America and throughout the West for that matter. Look at what is going on in Italy, England, Germany and the Netherlands. Few people from either side can or will discuss things is a civilized manner without falling back on the insults and character assassinations. For those caught up in the emotions of these volatile times there are plenty of internet sites that cater to this sort of thing. Emotions run very hot. That is why it is best to leave your politics at the door and talk about what really matters here. I agree with Jackson's policy else politics would destroy the congeniality of the ISG.

[Soapy Smith]

Your negative opinion of Trump and Trump voters or my negative opinion of Obama & Clinton and their supporters does not belong here. We are all just pussy lovers here. I am sorry I had to waste bandwidth to remind you of this.

In the past we had a thread entitled "USA Politics," but for some reason it was taken down. Anybody know why?

I understand that this title seems totally unrelated to getting laid in the Philippines, but it was helpful at times as a place to redirect political conversations that sprung up in other threads. Natty is correct that this particular conversation doesn't fit here.

I have been guilty of fueling some of these errant conversations. I think issues from American politics in particular spring up because a) yanks are very politically divided at present and b) for various reasons people from other countries, including ISG members, sometimes don't like us very much. And something must be wrong when we simultaneously p..s off the Canadians and the Mexicans.

I sure do wish we still had the USA Politics thread.

[Soapy Smith]

The best reason to be in the Navy is exactly what you said, no increased personal danger and hot meals with ice cream.

Navy and Air Force get ice cream, but not the Army, and probably not the Marines.