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  1. #19096
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    Dude! $160 for a night you will remember for a long time to come. Well worth it.

    2-3 K is the going rate now at Ibar. Yes you can pay less, but then you are not likely to get the girl you want and are likely to waste more time and money fucking around at the club when you should be fucking your dream girl back in the room.

    ..........

    1500 baht is less than $45.

    Putting on my fire retardant gear now and getting ready to get flamed. LOL.
    Uncle V, it's not very often that we get to imagine you with your fire retardant gear on. So here goes!!

    1. Yeah, maybe you are right. But that's besides the point man. It's all relative. Recently there was a poster on the BKK board who was happy to pay 10 times that for his escorts. So, is he wrong then? Ah, no. It's all relative. Also, if I remember right this was a last night situation in Patts for Tomas before his move to BKK and on to Indo. (if I remember right).

    2. But also, as MR ENT says he lives there and anything more than $1500 be and he believes the girl may feel she's got someone she can get more from. Over time, later! And if someone like you, finds a girl he likes, and does pay more than the $2-3 k later then that's ok too. ' Cause it's all relative.

    3. Of course, the looks, dress and personality of the girl matter too and there is no equation, it's whatever works for you. Recently there was another poster who primary liked the beach RD girls and mostly went ST for less than $1000 B .So, it's all whatever works for you at that particular time.

    4. We are all different man! And many of us are even different on different days and different in different countries.

    5. For example, I see things differently when I am in Sao Paulo, BR vs Puerto Plata in the DR. And, sometimes if I go with a girl for a few days to a lux all inclusive resort in the DR, then it will end up being over $200 a night. But, each situation and each experience is different. In that sense, I can understand Tomas and I do understand both your POV and MR. ENt's too.

    6. And then there are strange dudes like me who gets more out of a nice dinner in a great setting or in a great disco bar with lots of beautiful girls, music etc providing a great ambiance than I often get back in the room! Why? Because at least for me, I look at things in a math kind of way and also look at pleasure for myself with my own sensory meter in a quantitative way.

    The total pleasure, sigmaad over time, say 2-3 hours in a place like Ibar enjoying the drinks, dancing, ambiance etc. , or over a 2-3 dinner in a similarly pleasurable setting (but different) also have sensory pleasure value and many times does compare better (for me in a relative way) than say 20-30 minutes with a girl in the room. Since unlike people like you who wear flame redartant suits I don't quite have the gear to last a whole lot longer. Even if doubled that with another 20-30 minutes in the am with the girl, it's still only 40-60 minutes, and I have to put up with the girl in the am, or during the night, worry about my stuff, walk her down in the am etc etc. Yeah, of course the kinds of pleasure you get from these 3 distinctly different kinds of pleasure seeking activities are not equivalent, we can all try to compute that for ourselves in our minds and with our senses and then make an instructive decision of relative values. At this point in my life, I often find that many people may not be totally honest with themselves about how and when to optimize these 3 kinds of pleasure situations, both before and after, with a feedback loop, when using both $ and time in such a rough inherently subjective valuation of relative pleasure.

    Hey, you asked for it! Obviously, not the same kind of incoming you were expecting for sure! LOL! BTW, it looks like maybe you don't like to spend much money in a place like Ibar, so (and this is a rhetorical question) can I then change your name from Uncle V to Uncle (Cheap) Charlie because of your relative valuation of that sensory pleasure vs the extra $30-$40 at the Ibar, in addition to other $ for your girl (s). Dude, when I see you I'm going to try to make you spend $50 at Ibar one night so you can still be Uncle V for the rest of us. Even if that means no girl for you but girl for me that night ! Haha. ROLFMAO!

  2. #19095
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]

    All that being said, the money I spent that night would have been better allocated to another time and place but sometimes you get the bug and sometimes the bug gets you.
    Dude! $160 for a night you will remember for a long time to come. Well worth it.

    2-3 K is the going rate now at Ibar. Yes you can pay less, but then you are not likely to get the girl you want and are likely to waste more time and money fucking around at the club when you should be fucking your dream girl back in the room.

    1500 baht is less than $45. If you like to get exactly what you want when you want it then that is not a lot of money. At least not to me. And I am no millionaire by any stretch.

    If you are a guy that wants value and quantity that's another story. To each his own. Do the work and save your $30-40.

    But be careful. Its damn easy to spend that at the bar in the meantime -- even in Pattaya. I'd rather be giving the money to the girl than the bar. Of course you can stand around all night nursing a beer. But no one likes a cheap charlie. Even if he looks like Brad Pitt.

    Putting on my fire retardant gear now and getting ready to get flamed. LOL.

  3. #19094
    Quote Originally Posted by AliasDonkey  [View Original Post]
    I've been to Pattaya a few time and was wondering if anyone knew of any bars offering darkside trips?

    I asked I-rovers and they said they no long offer this.

    Cherry Bar was mention on the web but have no email / contact info to ask if they still do this also.

    Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

    If not I guess I'll take a stab at going to a Gentlemans Club as opposed to doing both LOL!

    Thanks.
    This might be useful. I have visited a few and I saw no reason to visit that side of town again. And even if you do find something that floats your boat, good luck in getting her to join you at your hotel, which in all likelihood, will be near beach road. Of course, there are plenty of ST options available in those parts, if that is what you fancy.
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  4. #19093
    Quote Originally Posted by AliasDonkey  [View Original Post]
    I've been to Pattaya a few time and was wondering if anyone knew of any bars offering darkside trips?
    I asked I-rovers and they said they no long offer this.
    Cherry Bar was mention on the web but have no email / contact info to ask if they still do this also.
    Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
    If not I guess I'll take a stab at going to a Gentlemans Club as opposed to doing both LOL!
    Thanks.
    Rent a motorbike, print a map and do it by yourself. I did sometimes, is a hit and miss but I had some great party around DarkSide. Of course difficult to find a good quality girls but could find some good performer.

  5. #19092

    DarkSide

    I've been to Pattaya a few time and was wondering if anyone knew of any bars offering darkside trips?

    I asked I-rovers and they said they no long offer this.

    Cherry Bar was mention on the web but have no email / contact info to ask if they still do this also.

    Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

    If not I guess I'll take a stab at going to a Gentlemans Club as opposed to doing both LOL!

    Thanks.

  6. #19091

    The bug...

    Actually, I agree with what you said on one level for sure. I spent too much all things considered that night though barely indulged the rest of the week so it all evens out. However, my friend came from Bangkok arriving at 9pm Saturday and did not leave until 4pm the next day so it was Not only three or four hours. In the end, I had two pretty good LT experiences though admittedly I was with the girls at slightly different times.

    I did not bother tracking my date down in Ibar because she was really no use to me since she started her period. I could have stuck it out with her, or just told her we were leaving and I did not want to take another girl, but the result would have been the same -- a BJ before she left the following day. I am not into sex when a girl has her period. I supposed I could have offered her less money (or nothing at all) due to her condition but I did have sex with her before we went out and she took care of me before she left so that would have led to a disagreement so not worth the aggravation. So basically I spent $5500 in total just for the novelty of two girls in a six hour spread. I bought the second girl one drink in Ibar and actually cut off my date earlier as I told her she was too drunk. Also, even though Pattaya is said to be cheaper, I have found the (hot) girls in these clubs like Ibar expect as much as in Bangkok. I think if you are younger, some of these hotties might leave with you for 1500 or 2 k but I was getting nowhere on my prior visits there.

    Since I liked the other girl, I wanted to bang her. Basically as simple as that. And, I don't think they discussed the $3 k amount I paid my date when we were in Ibar. My first girl asked me as she was leaving how much I paid her friend though she could have just been confirming the price before she asked for her cut. On the other hand, even though she said they were friends, I think they don't know the word for acquaintances because they were not really friends. I know this because girl 2 (from Ibar) asked me for girl #1 phone number right before she left the apartment. Why do that if she wants to avoid paying my friend a 'finders fee'?
    However, my date tried to pull this with me on our first meeting in Bangkok by passing me off to her friend towards the end of the evening as she became increasingly inebriated. I told her no in no uncertain terms and she came home with me for a good assfucking as it turned out.

    All that being said, the money I spent that night would have been better allocated to another time and place but sometimes you get the bug and sometimes the bug gets you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Here's my take on your report, FWIW.

    All p4 p girls are maximers. Now, you made her come RT from BKK for about 3-4 hours, and she gets $3 k from you LT. But she was also tasked with finding you another. Well, she introduced you to 3. She did her job.

    If the one you selected was from truly her friend from BKK, she probably proudly told her that she was getting $3 k from you for LT. That's why the other girl felt a bit down cause you only offered her $2 k to start with although you then agreed on $2. 5 k. And, my guess would be that your BKK girl gets at least 500 B, so that girl only nets maybe $2 k (still not bad for her given the competition that night for a girl in Ibar as you described it.).

    And your original BKK girl on her time out jaunt probably did someone for maybe $1 k. So, she might have ended up with $4. 5 K in total and she maximized for herself. It seems you let her disappear and then reappear without any consequences ?

    So, now with the drinks and all you probably spent $6. 5-$7 K total for 2 girls. Which is way more than I think you should have. But that's your decision, looks like you a good time anyway.

    The lesson here I think is don't expect 3 somes girls who have to also find your third be someone who has your best interest in mind and show 100 PC loyalty to you. They are all p4 p girls and will maximize for themselves.

    I think you could have had maybe almost 3 great LT's for what you spent in one night. These kind of arrangements that you went for are always fraught with complications. Par for the course, probably.

  7. #19090
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Tried to PM you!

    Thanks for your offer to meet in IBar in early May. I will try to PM you once I arrive in Pattaya.

    Cheers,
    Sorry bro. I deleted a few so you can resend.

    Thanks.

    U_V.

  8. #19089
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    I am leaving Pattaya shortly for Bangkok where I will be for a night or two before proceeding to Indonesia.

    I don't really indulge with the girls that much but seems when I do something odd always seems to happen or perhaps this is standard and to be expected.

    Last Saturday was no exception. I contacted a girl I wrote a report about recently on the Bangkok thread and asked her to come to Pattaya and meet me. It was for two reasons: on my last occasion with her, she strongly suggested her interest in finding a girl for the three of us. And I also felt like having a 'date' in Pattaya for a change rather than look for one. She was also a great lay the last time and seemed to prefer the 'A' train.

    So we agreed to 3 k long time and she arrived around 9 pm at my apartment and we almost immediately hit the sack for a spirited round, napped a bit and then headed out around midnight.

    First stop was Red Car. She had never been and enjoyed. However, after about a 1/2 hour, she wanted to leave but also had an urgency to visit a 7-11 followed by an urgency to go to the bathroom. I suspected it was her period and she said it was. Well, this certainly put a different dimension on the upcoming evening.

    Then we walked to Lucifer for a while and listened and danced to a good band. She wanted to go Ibar which as to be expected for a Saturday was absolutely jumping. Girls were everywhere and many quite stunning. We shared a table with 2 girls and my friend attempted to introduce me to these two new girls. They seemed a little bit suspicious of her bUT after my friend wandered off for a bit, I got this girls number for the future.

    After 15 minutes or so, my date returned with a hot girl in tow, 22 yo, wearing short cut off blue jeans, and featuring luscious lips and a great body. As it turns out, they are friends from Bangkok so at least the girl was somewhat vetted. It did not take long for this girl to be climbing all over me as she smelled a payday in the offing. My friend encouraged all this but, alas, since she was on her period, I knew no 3 some hijinks were on tap.

    Nevertheless, the new girl said in their charming open line.

    'how much you pay me'. I said 2 k, she said 3 k, and we agreed to 2. 5 k. She did not seem to pleased with this compromise but such is life. A bird in the hand and all that.

    My friend again disappeared so myself and the new girl returned to my place where I had a nice shag without condom, BBBJ. She more or less passed out after she had an orgasm but given the hour 5 am, it was not surprising.

    My original 'date' showed up at 7:30 and hopped in bed with us. Nor exactly sure what she was up to with those missing hours but I felt some baht in her bra so apparently she is quite resourceful.

    Nothing else happened to her condition but she did give me a nice BBBJ after the other left.
    Sounds like you had one hell of a night! Nicely done.

  9. #19088

    Uncle V. Your mailbox is full!

    Tried to PM you!

    Thanks for your offer to meet in IBar in early May. I will try to PM you once I arrive in Pattaya.

    Cheers,

  10. #19087
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    I am leaving Pattaya shortly for Bangkok where I will be for a night or two before proceeding to Indonesia.

    I don't really indulge with the girls that much but seems when I do something odd always seems to happen or perhaps this is standard and to be expected.

    Last Saturday was no exception. I contacted a girl I wrote a report about recently on the Bangkok thread and asked her to come to Pattaya and meet me. It was for two reasons: on my last occasion with her, she strongly suggested her interest in finding a girl for the three of us. And I also felt like having a 'date' in Pattaya for a change rather than look for one. She was also a great lay the last time and seemed to prefer the 'A' train.

    So we agreed to 3 k long time and she arrived around 9 pm at my apartment and we almost immediately hit the sack for a spirited round, napped a bit and then headed out around midnight.

    .............

    'how much you pay me'. I said 2 k, she said 3 k, and we agreed to 2. 5 k. She did not seem to pleased with this compromise but such is life. A bird in the hand and all that.

    My friend again disappeared so myself and the new girl returned to my place where I had a nice shag without condom, BBBJ. She more or less passed out after she had an orgasm but given the hour 5 am, it was not surprising.

    My original 'date' showed up at 7:30 and hopped in bed with us. Nor exactly sure what she was up to with those missing hours but I felt some baht in her bra so apparently she is quite resourceful.

    Nothing else happened to her condition but she did give me a nice BBBJ after the other left.
    Here's my take on your report, FWIW.

    All p4 p girls are maximers. Now, you made her come RT from BKK for about 3-4 hours, and she gets $3 k from you LT. But she was also tasked with finding you another. Well, she introduced you to 3. She did her job.

    If the one you selected was from truly her friend from BKK, she probably proudly told her that she was getting $3 k from you for LT. That's why the other girl felt a bit down cause you only offered her $2 k to start with although you then agreed on $2. 5 k. And, my guess would be that your BKK girl gets at least 500 B, so that girl only nets maybe $2 k (still not bad for her given the competition that night for a girl in Ibar as you described it.).

    And your original BKK girl on her time out jaunt probably did someone for maybe $1 k. So, she might have ended up with $4. 5 K in total and she maximized for herself. It seems you let her disappear and then reappear without any consequences ?

    So, now with the drinks and all you probably spent $6. 5-$7 K total for 2 girls. Which is way more than I think you should have. But that's your decision, looks like you a good time anyway.

    The lesson here I think is don't expect 3 somes girls who have to also find your third be someone who has your best interest in mind and show 100 PC loyalty to you. They are all p4 p girls and will maximize for themselves.

    I think you could have had maybe almost 3 great LT's for what you spent in one night. These kind of arrangements that you went for are always fraught with complications. Par for the course, probably.

  11. #19086
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    She wanted to go Ibar which as to be expected for a Saturday was absolutely jumping. Girls were everywhere and many quite stunning. We shared a table with 2 girls and my friend attempted to introduce me to these two new girls. They seemed a little bit suspicious of her bUT after my friend wandered off for a bit, I got this girls number for the future.

    After 15 minutes or so, my date returned with a hot girl in tow, 22 yo, wearing short cut off blue jeans, and featuring luscious lips and a great body. As it turns out, they are friends from Bangkok so at least the girl was somewhat vetted. It did not take long for this girl to be climbing all over me as she smelled a payday in the offing. My friend encouraged all this but, alas, since she was on her period, I knew no 3 some hijinks were on tap.

    Nevertheless, the new girl said in their charming open line.

    'how much you pay me'. I said 2 k, she said 3 k, and we agreed to 2. 5 k. She did not seem to pleased with this compromise but such is life. A bird in the hand and all that.

    My friend again disappeared so myself and the new girl returned to my place where I had a nice shag without condom, BBBJ. She more or less passed out after she had an orgasm but given the hour 5 am, it was not surprising.
    After reading your story I doubt you just banged the same girl with whom I was just 3 weeks back. The entire story is quite resembling with this girl I had except the BBBJ part.

    This girl I had, has a friend in BKK who works there and they meet every now and then. She demanded 3 k to me as well and I settled for 2.7 k. Short cut off blue jeans, luscious lips and a great body everything is quite familiar with me. For me she was a great GFE and she sucks your nipple as well, great experience.

    It'd be great if you can share her name / photo. Great experience by you. Keep it up.

  12. #19085

    Pattaya Finale

    I am leaving Pattaya shortly for Bangkok where I will be for a night or two before proceeding to Indonesia.

    I don't really indulge with the girls that much but seems when I do something odd always seems to happen or perhaps this is standard and to be expected.

    Last Saturday was no exception. I contacted a girl I wrote a report about recently on the Bangkok thread and asked her to come to Pattaya and meet me. It was for two reasons: on my last occasion with her, she strongly suggested her interest in finding a girl for the three of us. And I also felt like having a 'date' in Pattaya for a change rather than look for one. She was also a great lay the last time and seemed to prefer the 'A' train.

    So we agreed to 3 k long time and she arrived around 9 pm at my apartment and we almost immediately hit the sack for a spirited round, napped a bit and then headed out around midnight.

    First stop was Red Car. She had never been and enjoyed. However, after about a 1/2 hour, she wanted to leave but also had an urgency to visit a 7-11 followed by an urgency to go to the bathroom. I suspected it was her period and she said it was. Well, this certainly put a different dimension on the upcoming evening.

    Then we walked to Lucifer for a while and listened and danced to a good band. She wanted to go Ibar which as to be expected for a Saturday was absolutely jumping. Girls were everywhere and many quite stunning. We shared a table with 2 girls and my friend attempted to introduce me to these two new girls. They seemed a little bit suspicious of her bUT after my friend wandered off for a bit, I got this girls number for the future.

    After 15 minutes or so, my date returned with a hot girl in tow, 22 yo, wearing short cut off blue jeans, and featuring luscious lips and a great body. As it turns out, they are friends from Bangkok so at least the girl was somewhat vetted. It did not take long for this girl to be climbing all over me as she smelled a payday in the offing. My friend encouraged all this but, alas, since she was on her period, I knew no 3 some hijinks were on tap.

    Nevertheless, the new girl said in their charming open line.

    'how much you pay me'. I said 2 k, she said 3 k, and we agreed to 2. 5 k. She did not seem to pleased with this compromise but such is life. A bird in the hand and all that.

    My friend again disappeared so myself and the new girl returned to my place where I had a nice shag without condom, BBBJ. She more or less passed out after she had an orgasm but given the hour 5 am, it was not surprising.

    My original 'date' showed up at 7:30 and hopped in bed with us. Nor exactly sure what she was up to with those missing hours but I felt some baht in her bra so apparently she is quite resourceful.

    Nothing else happened to her condition but she did give me a nice BBBJ after the other left.

  13. #19084

    Happy Go-Go Lucky

    I went to Sensations and a couple of girls sat at my table, but when I tried to negotiate they just didn't make any sense (poor English?) so I just left.

    I made the rounds at Insomnia / IBar but nothing caught my eye. I also tried Red Car as discussed before, which is a nice place. Maybe I wasn't aggressive enough in opening sets, but I also walked out empty-handed.

    I said to myself, if you can't get laid on a Saturday night in Pattaya at 2 am, you can't get laid anywhere. So I went to an old favorite, Happy A Gogo. There's a lot of flesh on display, the girls have a pretty friendly attitude, and there's always this crazy pole dancer doing the splits for entertainment value.

    Anyway, at some point a girl made eye contact with me and smiled from all the way across the stage, at least 4 meters out, so I said to myself: "that's it, that's your ticket for the night". I like to be the Chosen One. I looked at her a bit on an off while she was progressing from pole to pole, but nothing too heavy / creepy / drooling. I made a point of looking at the other girls too. As she descended from the stage I made sure to keep track of her whereabouts, and motioned her to me for a lady drink. She was pretty tall for a Thai girl, but not taller than me obviously, good body except for exceptionally flat tits. Personally I don't care that much as long as I can lick them and they are sensitive. I wouldn't go flat tits all the time, but once in a while it's OK. It made her feel very self-conscious, so she was extra eager to please in other ways. Her name was Lucky. She'd been working there only 9 days. She asked for 1000 barfine and 3000 short time. I know 3000 is too much, but I didn't even try to negotiate because I knew I'd be banging her for a lot longer than the standard 5 minutes, and I wanted her to tell herself it was worth the effort so she wouldn't rush me.

    1) Girl made eye contact with me from afar; 2) 9 days into the job; 3) self-conscious about her body; 4) I overpay. All the elements that forecast a stellar performance in the sack were present. And I was not disappointed!

    I took her to Oasis next door. We took a leisurely shower. She gave me a good BBBJ. Condom on, I banged her in all sorts of positions for what seemed like an eternity. I don't have natural staying power, it's just I was very drunk. She didn't complain and was a willing and eager participant in the romp. In the end I finally managed to come, and we were both exhausted. All in all, a spirited performance by a girl who was in the mood for a piece of me. No tip, because 3000 includes the tip already in my view. She didn't even return to the go-go bar, she said she's had enough banging for the day.

    Would I repeat? Not her, because I like to swap, but Happy went up one notch in my favor. So I would probably include Happy as standard in my Pattaya night rotations. Would I recommend Lucky? Yes, if you don't mind flat-ish tits. Her chest doesn't look like a boy, it's still very feminine, it's just she struggles a bit to fill her bra cups. She's still relatively fresh enough to give a seemingly normal (not too jaded) performance in the sack.

  14. #19083

    Etc

    There was no point in mentioning the name of my 'date of sorts' at the RedCar. She is from Bangkok, not Pattaya, and came to visit me for the night. I decided to go with proven quality rather than hunt for one that night though I ended up banging not only her but a friends of hers' she ran into later in the evening at the Ibar. My friend, needless to say, is not the jealous type, unlike many Thai women.

    They don't allow smoking at the RedCar but it is allowed at Ibar. However, at least the far end of the Ibar sits over the water in an open air area dispersing the smoke so it's not too bad. I am a non smoker so if a place is too smoky or has poor ventilation, I generally don't stay long.

    We also went to Lucifers, which featured a very good hip-hop and rap band and a petite woman, belying her size , with a dynamite voice. Not very crowded and good fun.

    I read somewhere else that siskas have been banned in Pattaya and did not notice any cafes renting them.

  15. #19082
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvenvacht  [View Original Post]
    A recent study showed that the average duration of sexual intercourse is somewhere between 5 and 6 minutes.

    So these gals dreaming of a 5 minute man are spot on!
    Unfortunately for the ladies a lot of us take much, much longer than this.

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