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  1. #19293

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    Kind of waiting for you to login...

    I don't think most BM's need to be lectured about their confidence, or level of attractiveness from someone they have never met and who was not there at the time. I have not had to pay with several very cute girls in Bangkok this winter and last. I get the feeling that you always pay.

    Besides appearing a bit angry, what's your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or maybe it could be the attractiveness or more so the CONFIDENCE of the punter? (There was just a guy in the Tijuana thread saying how he took a girl to the hotel and she let her taxi friend bring a pizza for $38 then later a bottle of wine for $25, all for him to pay for. See I would have told the bich to kick rocks, but this guy didn't want to seem cheap TO A HOOKER and just rolled over and paid then came back to the board complaining and telling everyone to be careful. No I do not need to be careful. You need to grow a pair and stop letting biches run you.)

    How many girls have you known to say they find themselves really attractive? Usually women harp on about the faults they find in themselves. So maybe it is you putting them up on a pedestal and not themselves thinking they look good enough to get x amount of money.

    And I have seen plenty of women in gogos that I did not find attractive yet they all garner the same 3000 baht or whatever. And even in the soapies where the girls with the expensive price tags do not look better than the ones with the cheaper price tags.

    You have to remember that there are no set prices in a freelance market unless the women are colluding. So 3 of us could go up to the same woman and get 3 different prices. Women have told me that they will jack the price up on a guy who they do not find attractive. And remember, if you are not embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

  2. #19292
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, Uncle V. Yes, in this particular instance I felt a bit guilty about paying 2500 baht for the girl in Ibar. However, many times, you read reports about how cheap the girls are in certain destinations or venues but then when you get there, it seems that is already old news.

    But when fellow posters read about 1000 baht prices, or less, they need to keep in mind the attractiveness of the girl.
    Or maybe it could be the attractiveness or more so the CONFIDENCE of the punter? (There was just a guy in the Tijuana thread saying how he took a girl to the hotel and she let her taxi friend bring a pizza for $38 then later a bottle of wine for $25, all for him to pay for. See I would have told the bich to kick rocks, but this guy didn't want to seem cheap TO A HOOKER and just rolled over and paid then came back to the board complaining and telling everyone to be careful. No I do not need to be careful. You need to grow a pair and stop letting biches run you.)

    How many girls have you known to say they find themselves really attractive? Usually women harp on about the faults they find in themselves. So maybe it is you putting them up on a pedestal and not themselves thinking they look good enough to get x amount of money.

    And I have seen plenty of women in gogos that I did not find attractive yet they all garner the same 3000 baht or whatever. And even in the soapies where the girls with the expensive price tags do not look better than the ones with the cheaper price tags.

    You have to remember that there are no set prices in a freelance market unless the women are colluding. So 3 of us could go up to the same woman and get 3 different prices. Women have told me that they will jack the price up on a guy who they do not find attractive. And remember, if you are not embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

  3. #19291
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13?
    Taxi from the bus station on Pattaya Nua to Soi 13 should be 200 baht. There are also baht buses at the bus station that may be heading that way. I think it was 50 baht last time I hopped on one to my place on 3rd Rd Soi 18 (and I had my large scuba gear bag). Like LBM said, prepare to get wet.

  4. #19290
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    And example of someone who has never been there or trying to put up a virtual Scare Crow.

  5. #19289
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.

    I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats. And my hotel has been showing a cheap rate, which makes it appear that Pattaya will be in the low season even if Songkran won't yet be officially over. I would not mind a day of Songkran as I have never experienced it before, but I think one day would be plenty!

    I will be in Pattaya a week, then will return to BKK for a week to see my "GF" again (a real life, super sweet, old fashioned Thai girl, still a virgin I met online a few year back), after which I will go, alone, to Phuket for 4 days, then either back to Pattaya for a few more days or possibly back to BKK to see the GF (if I manage to break through that kevlar hymen this time).

    Looking forward to it, but hope the last day (s) of Songkran won't mess things up.
    Based on your time frame, the time you indicate by the time you or Bell Bus get to the Bus station area the streets will be wall to wall cars and people. Even if you get to the Station I hope you can roll your big piece of luggage easily because you will need to most likely roll in all the way to the Hotel while getting soaked. You be better off getting in around 8 pm or cancel altogether and come the next day!

  6. #19288
    I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.

    I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats. And my hotel has been showing a cheap rate, which makes it appear that Pattaya will be in the low season even if Songkran won't yet be officially over. I would not mind a day of Songkran as I have never experienced it before, but I think one day would be plenty!

    I will be in Pattaya a week, then will return to BKK for a week to see my "GF" again (a real life, super sweet, old fashioned Thai girl, still a virgin I met online a few year back), after which I will go, alone, to Phuket for 4 days, then either back to Pattaya for a few more days or possibly back to BKK to see the GF (if I manage to break through that kevlar hymen this time).

    Looking forward to it, but hope the last day (s) of Songkran won't mess things up.

  7. #19287
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    So take a walk down beach road (the "coconut bar") IT IS, OF COURSE, EASIER IF YOU SPEAK THAI.

    What you see is what you will get. Negotiate directly with the lady (but watch out. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is).

    HAVE YOU EVER EVEN BEEN TO PATTAYA? Kuhree mai ma pattaya? I suspect not.

  8. #19286
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    How does the mamasan hook you up? When I go to bars and gogo clubs I choose the girl I want, not the mamasan.

  9. #19285
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    Well sorry you feel that way. I'm black and live there part time. I have black friends that live there full time. None of us have ever had a problem like you claim. Maybe the Mama's at the clubs and bars you went to thought you like fat girls.

  10. #19284
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    BS.

    I see many Blacks doing well in Pattaya. You did poorly a first post, plust the lack of grammara.

  11. #19283
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    I know a few guys who will take exceptional offence to those "going rates". LMAO.

    But guess what Uncle V, its Songkran so all the flaming may just be doused by the water jet manned by an Isaan cutie! 5555.

    Have fun! Happy Songkran.
    haha. I think I would rather be burned to a crisp than dealing with Songkran right now.

    Apropos my exchange last night with Haven, I just ran across this gem that I can't help citing:

    The immortal Casey Stengel debunking the canard that sex before a game was bad for ballplayers: "Being with a woman all night never hurt no professional baseball player. It's staying up all night looking for a woman that does him in. ".

  12. #19282

    Pattaya hates blacks

    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.

  13. #19281
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    Dude! $160 for a night you will remember for a long time to come. Well worth it.

    2-3 K is the going rate now at Ibar. Yes you can pay less, but then you are not likely to get the girl you want and are likely to waste more time and money fucking around at the club when you should be fucking your dream girl back in the room.

    1500 baht is less than $45. If you like to get exactly what you want when you want it then that is not a lot of money. At least not to me. And I am no millionaire by any stretch.

    If you are a guy that wants value and quantity that's another story. To each his own. Do the work and save your $30-40.
    I know a few guys who will take exceptional offence to those "going rates". LMAO.

    But guess what Uncle V, its Songkran so all the flaming may just be doused by the water jet manned by an Isaan cutie! 5555.

    Have fun! Happy Songkran.

  14. #19280

    Prices

    Thanks, Uncle V. Yes, in this particular instance I felt a bit guilty about paying 2500 baht for the girl in Ibar. However, many times, you read reports about how cheap the girls are in certain destinations or venues but then when you get there, it seems that is already old news. Even on BR, I heard a girl quote a customer 2000 baht, albeit she was quite attractive, which gets to a certain point I would like to make. One night towards the end of my stay, I took a stroll on BR about 10 pm and counted about 275 FL's between the Hard Rock and the Burger King / Pizza Company. Out of this amount, only a few I would ever consider taking to my hotel. Most of the girls were not very attractive, hence BR reputation for being inexpensive. So the cute one who was asking for 2000 was an anomaly because of her comparative look (though she prob would have taken less depending on how astute a negotiator the punter was). Anyway, there are a lot of variables that are involved in how girls determine their price and what they
    will accept.

    But when fellow posters read about 1000 baht prices, or less, they need to keep in mind the attractiveness of the girl. And, sometimes, that can be quite low (from BR).

    The same applies at the Ibar. Sure, there are girls, even in there, who could never get 2500-3000 baht. There is a lot of average and below average in that place as well. These girls might go for 1500 but the girl I took out was hot and her expected rate was simply higher. I don't think she would have gone with me for 2000 though there were quite a few girls in the vicinity who would have gladly taken that amounts, but they were fuglies imo. The other thing that complicates the mix is whether it's long or short time. Even my 2500 baht girl was a bit obtuse about how long that would be, though, in the end, she stayed to about 9 am. I find you just never know as it depends on the hour we leave the venue, etc. It does seem a certain type of girl wants to leave (my apartment) about 4:30 am or so and call it long time. It's almost like the witching hour for them. Case in point, recently, I took a girl to my apartment in Bangkok for long time. I was quite randy that evening and we had sex almost continuously for two or three hours, with some rests in between. She left at 4:30 am and I did not complain. I was spent, she was exhausted, and what's the point for her to stay another few hours. But I got my money's worth in a shorter period of time than I had expected.

    So thanks for your encouraging words and into the breech we go...

  15. #19279
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    This damn suit is no match for your scorching prose. I will need skin grafts before my trip.

    ..........

    Uncle CC? I think you may have missed my point.))) I don't mind spending money at Ibar and have spent a tidy sum there in the past without even batting an eye. But I won't begrudge giving the girl a little extra. Especially if she reciprocates with some hot sex and some good lovin'.

    What I don't get is when guys complain about one thing but willingly do the other. But I guess that's just me.

    I really do hope we get to meet and hang out and am sure that the verbal sparing will be just as much fun as the hunt at Ibar. I guess the first round is on me (you clever bastard)!

    Stay horny my friend.

    (until further notice still) Uncle-V.
    Hahaha. Uncle V, I was just playing with you a little. Sometimes, I just try to take this board into a bit of playful direction. And my humor (or the lack of it depending on your point of view) is not for all.

    Anyways, it was a lighthearted attempt to induce a bit of different thinking / approach without being full of myself.

    Yeah, look forward to meeting ya too. Although I don't know if we'll get to hang out much with you wanting to run off to your loom rapido (haha pun intended) and don your suit on!

    BTW, that explains your sign off on all your messages and I can understand why you need to hurry back to your loom. We certainly don't want to see you erect ( without or without your protective gear) at Ibar. Well at least I don't!

    And, unlike you ( thankfully ), I certainly don't have the power to Stayyyyyyy Horny ! Consequently, I won't be in any hurry ! LOL! 😜

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