St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Zing23]

For the first time today I went to the Internet cafe with a chica. This is the place upstairs, above the chinese market, next to Carolina. It opens at 4pm, when the chicas get their free time. It was packed with hot girls from Carolina and Seamans, plus some not so hot girls from Crytsal Club; I was the only guy there. We were there to look at pictures of her son, her dog, her family, and her house, all in emails sent her by a girlfriend.

I was a little worried about chica management, since I was with one of my regulars who does not know that I am still seeing other girls at other clubs. In fact, two girls that I have visited recently were there in the internet cafe. But, confidence and focus goes a long ways. I just focused on the girl that I was with and totally ignored all other girls in the place - and none of them said hello to me.

You can learn about a girl from her Hotmail account. If she has dozens of Contacts and hundreds of emails, you know she probably is into Client Management on a big scale and even Western Unionism. If she has 2 contacts (her sister and a girfriend) and only 3 emails in her total Inbox, you can be certain she is a newcomer to the business.

The second event occurred in the bedroom, where I sspent 2.5 hours with one of my regulars. For the first time in my long live, I experienced one of my long-time fantasies. To have a beautiful and loving woman climax on top of me, while we are listening to Rachmaninov's 18th Variation (on a Theme of Paganin). I know this sounds wierd, but I consider this the most beautiful short bit of music ever written. I have been waaiting 30 years for the right moment. With the latinas, my experience with classical music has not been good. Most of them have never heard it, don't appreciate it, and just want more Latin Pop music. But with this girl, I had broadened the music to Italian and French and English love songs, and she responded to all of them. So today I tried her on 80 minutes of Rachmaninov's greatest hits. Bingo - the most intense lovemaking ever.

-zing

p.s. footnote to my earlier GFE post. I forgot to mention that it is very easy for a quiet wallflower chica to transition from GFE to GF.

[Airboss]

Hi Guys,

It's a Saturday night here in balmy SXM and took the opportunity to visit Seamans. Though the lot was full at about 10 pm, and there was plenty of talent to choose from. There were few customers until close to midnight.

I worked at taking Zing's advise and did my best to fend off the vultures that descended moments after finding a quiet seat near the far wall. There was Isobela, new gal (9 days into contract) from Mexico City. She was actually pretty good. Attractive, though a bit too much man made mountains for me, and had a great smile. But my strategy was to pick frm the wall flowers so she moved along after a chat and mild pitch. A couple of the more hard core vultures swooped in, but also soon moved on to other targets of opportunity.

One wall flower caught my eye, as very attractive, although she would not move from her distant chair. Finally had to walk the gauntlet and took a seat next to her. Very sweet and young new gal from Cali. I have heard the term 'spinner' used on this board, but never really knew what the heck that was. And still don't. This gal (room 4) is tall (about 5' 8") petite and a bit shy. She is clearly pretty new to this line of work, but also clearly here to bring back some bacon.

Am not sure I would recommend her, but will report nonetheless. The only thing that detracted from an otherwise great figure was stretch marks.

She was a strick clock watcher, but that is not unusual during the night shift.

While she was far from a GFE sort of experience, she did react with great enthusiasm to a bit of 'loco lengua' as some have called it.

Very possible that given enough time she could be worth your time and effort.

I was originally looking for Elianna, but did not see her tonight. Ah well, guess will have to just keep doing more research.

Ab

[Zing23]

Hi guys,

I would just want to know where exactly is the Seaman's Club, because I would love to go here next week!

And how do we do to get some take out girls for not too expensive?

Thanks you all.

for directions, look in the Reports of Distinction for Lesser Antilles for the St Maarten FAQ.

we just covered take out (TLN). expensive. only way to do it cheaper is to get a girl to go with you during her free time (4pm to 8pm each day). should be free ($0) for just hanging out, but pay her at least $40 per pop just like in the club, if you happen to get intimate during this time period.

-zing

[Zing23]

The trashy girl with the orangy hair at Carolina is named Angie. Had a good session with her today. She is fun. Rm 7. I think she is the same Angie that I had 2 eye opening sessions with, more than 2 years ago when I was just a beginner. At the end Angie told me that Viviana may arrive in St Maarten today; she is the girl that Pogostick called his "black-haired beauty" and who was the regular I could not escape during her 8 month stay at Carolinas!

There is another Angie at Carolina, with dark hair. Pretty. Silicon. Enjoyed talking to her. Try another time (my regular is gone. when I called her today she answered from Marigot where she is staying with her girlfriend for the weekend, then returns to Colombia; told me she was retired).

Construction is 99% complete at Defiance, just a few more new tiles to lay. The new bar is comfortable and attrative. Gave Elissa episodes 15 thru 20 of Sin Tetas No Hai Paraiso (colmbian tv show about girls who sell themselves to drug lords in order to buy silicon implants). She is pressuring me to find the last 10 episodes, but I can't find anywhere that I can download or buy them. If anyone is in Colombia and can pick up the DVDs please do so and I will reimburse you. Thanks.

Another unbelieveable session with my regular. She asked what gift I had brought her for Valentines Day. I didn't really have one, because I gave them all away last weekend to other girls. But I didn't tell her that. I said I had a hard time deciding what to give her. She didn't need flowers or chocolates (she had them from other admirers). I had already given her 30 CDs of music, so that was not special. I told her that I thought the gift she needed the most was more sleep. So I gave her $200 so she could bar-fine herself a few afternoons and catch up on her sleep.

There are some unusual Seaman at Seamans Club this week: a crew of Colombians from San Andres island. This is an island that belongs to Colombia, but was settled by the same people as in the English Caribbean. So they are black and speak Caribbean Eneligh, as well as Spanish of course. My regular told me that just hang around the bar all day and drink, and ask her how come she is here prostituting herself instead of back in Colombia looking after her child.

A girl who is friends with one of my regular girls asked me to take a look at the laptop that she bought from a local client for $100. It was a couple of years old (cd drive, no dvd) and was totally in French, with a French keyboard and with someone's MSM account alctie (gee, I wonder how the client got this laptop?). I tried to configure it for Spanish menus, but you need the original CDs, which she didn't have (big surprise). So I installed Rosetta Stone English lessons for her and told her to get Windows re-installed when she gets back to Colombia.

-zing

[Robinson Crusoe]

Hi guys,

I would just want to know where exactly is the Seaman's Club, because I would love to go here next week!

And how do we do to get some take out girls for not too expensive?

Thanks you all.

[Lucky Strike]

Thanks very much for the info. Any idea what I should pay for services (in addition to the $50 multa) for a Carolina girl for a 4pm to 11am takeout?

I believe typical TLN at Carolina is $200 to $300. But there are many variable, as Shark pointed out.
It's basic supply vs. demand. More customers = potentially higher asking price. Expect to pay $300+ for the "hottest" girls, pro strippers, etc. If you travel during Heinekken regatta, expect to pay A LOT more for TLNs.
I think if you have a good "chemistry" with a girl, it may count into the price. Could a girl expect to have a good time with you (a "date", not just non-stop f***ing) or how badly she wants to get out of the club for a night?
I think SXM veterans will agree that it's better to negotiate good GFE service, rather than negotiate $50 discount.

[Shark16]

Thanks very much for the info. Any idea what I should pay for services (in addition to the $50 multa) for a Carolina girl for a 4pm to 11am takeout?

A TLN is usually from 8 pm to 10 or 11 am. The going price in Carolina seemed to be USD 300 + USD 50 when I was there in Januray. If the girl is popular and it is a Saturday night she may try to quote higher. If it is a quiet night (midweek) with one of the less popular girls, the market mechanisms should be in your favour. For the last category I was quoted USD 300 (multa incluido) for a TLN with a Seaman's girl without much negotiation (less was possible I believe).

The time between 4pm and 8pm is the girl's free time when she is resting and brushing her up for the night hours. I think everything is possible; from giving you this time for free, or simply refuse to go before 8pm. It depends on the girl and your negotiation skills.

Just my 2 cents.

[Multiscan]

From my somewhat limited experience I can say that many Colombianas speak some English, and some speak very good english. Dominicanas I've talked to speak very little to no english at all.

I believe Carolina girls have to pay "discount" $50 multa (plus $$ for services) from 4pm until 11am the following morning. Chicas at Seamans and Defiance never offered that. Instead they were asking for $100-150 multa (plus $$ for services), but for almost full 24 hour TLN (11am to 11am the following day.) So, depending on your time frame you can pay less for a TLN with Carolina girls.... if you can negotiate a reasonable price with the girls.

Thanks very much for the info. Any idea what I should pay for services (in addition to the $50 multa) for a Carolina girl for a 4pm to 11am takeout?

[DiggerMike]

Really appreciate all the info about SXM, will be there in two weeks, for my third trip.

But would like just a little help. Will be my first time in trying to get TLN from one of the places, and will be there during a Saturday, when no ships will be in Phillipsburg. How much would I anticipate in giving a lady for 12-24 hours, as well as how much in fines, and is there one time of the day better than another to try and negotiate this?

Suggestions on what would be nice to have in the room that she may enjoy, already anticipating some of that warming massage jelly to really help relax.

Is there also a beach to go to, kinda private, for some romantic beach time as well?

Thanks for the help and postings. Will post reports when I get there to help others.

[Ath Trainer]

I try to remember when I am picking a girl, that I am not picking the outfit. If we do go to her room, she will not be wearing it when we take care of business. Sometimes you can get caught up with what they are wearing, or their aggressive marketing campaign. Between implants and push up/padded bras, it's an investigative nightmare to know what you are choosing sometimes.

[Shark16]

Zing,
Please feel free to ROD your last report. If you don't, I will. It should be read by everybody who seeks GFE in SXM.

S16

[Rasjohnny]

Sounds like the same black girl that quoted me 30 minutes, but then asked for more money as soon as we got to room!!

Casa Blanca needs some new talent. Hope it is better next season!!

Casablanca girls and be as you have said extremely aggressive. I have had one girl literally drag me to the room. Luckily for her I really needed to bust a nut. It was a bit disconcerting. The make up was that she tried really hard to please.

[Zing23]

The Girl Friend Experience (GFE) includes kissing, french kissing, caresses, devotion to your pleasure, plenty of time, and often bareback blow job with ball action and more. The standard service is CBJ, no kissing on the lips, rushing, and a "next!" once you climax.

When you are in one of the clubs, take a look around before you say "yes" immediately to the first girl that approaches you.

You will see two kinds of girls.

The ones you notice first are those that have the guts to go up to guys and talk to them, stroke their privates, flash their tits, give lap dances, wear skimpy outfits, and have silicon tits. these are experienced pros who have worked st maarten, curacao, aruba, panama and other places. They can be exciting in the bed, but odds are they will not be GFE. They will be working to process you as quickly as possible for the maximum bucks possible (although they usually prefer to make you come quickly and take the standard $40 or $50 and make it up in volume). I call these girls the tiburones (sharks - no reflection on ISG member Shark16). My favorite girl at Seamans Club calls them pirahnnas. They can attack and consume guys. However, if you can get them to laugh and have fun, they can open up for you to, but it requires a lot of knowledge of Spanish and Latin culture.

At the other end of the spectrum are the girls who usually sit against the wall and wait for a guy to make the first move. They don't grab your dick. They don't dress as provocatively. They may be brand new to the business, or relatively new. They have natural bodies without silicon. They are just as pretty as the first group, but they don't market themselves as aggressively. You can sit unmolested with them and have a real conversation. If you don't speak Spanish, just stare into their eyes and mutter "bonita" over and over. These girls are the hidden gems of the St Maarten clubs.

And there are some girls who are in between the two extremes.

Right now I have 3 favorite girls at the clubs and all 3 are from the second, more reserved group. However, in the bedroom, all 3 are amazingly loving and sexy and hot with me. I know that one of them is equally hot with 2 other ISG members. By the way, I don't tell any of them about the others.

I don't publish their names here because I am still seeing them and, unfortunately, there are guys who read these reports and tell a girl what I wrote about them. As you can imagine, this causes me a great deal of grief with the chica. Especially if she does BBBJ for me, but doesn't do it for every guy. I am glad to pass on names and numbers to any members with a posting history. But remember, YMMV.

If you want to increase your odds for a Girl Friend Experience, my advice is to: look away from the aggressive hustlers at the bar and start sitting down with the quiet girls sitting around the edge of the room.

-zing

[Lucky Strike]

Where is it best to find a take-out girl in STM? I am looking to find a girl around mid-day until early next morning, for afternoon, evening and morning fun.

I speak no Spanish. Are some likely to be able to speak English and be worth to take out to dinner?

From my somewhat limited experience I can say that many Colombianas speak some English, and some speak very good english. Dominicanas I've talked to speak very little to no english at all.
I believe Carolina girls have to pay "discount" $50 multa (plus $$ for services) from 4pm until 11am the following morning. Chicas at Seamans and Defiance never offered that. Instead they were asking for $100-150 multa (plus $$ for services), but for almost full 24 hour TLN (11am to 11am the following day.) So, depending on your time frame you can pay less for a TLN with Carolina girls.... if you can negotiate a reasonable price with the girls.

[Lovin Chicas]

Sounds like the same black girl that quoted me 30 minutes, but then asked for more money as soon as we got to room!!

Casa Blanca needs some new talent. Hope it is better next season!!

Hey Zing,

I had the same experience there a few nights ago. Horrible!

There were very few girls there, although a few did look good, but it was pointless anyways, cuz prbly the same girl attacked me when I walked in and wouldn't let go. She even asked me for money for her seduction after I told her no for the room. When I tried even looking at other girls she would block my look.

Mind you, she did make me pretty horny, but that attitude, no way. Too bad, b/c I was really lookin forward to casablanca, now I'm not sure if I'll even return, was really surprised at how empty that place was though.