Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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04-18-20 23:07 #134
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
At least with in G7 nations we do not lie to each others and can have good dialogue to lead the world. G7 is not just GDP as they claim, then China would be in G7 long time ago.
Cities may reopen, but we are still depending on hope of weather of summer will fix it for now, so let see if that hope is right as for most virus weather to calm it down. Some are wondering about corona spread in warmer climate nations already, but let see.
Either way, we won't know the bottom of it unless USA decide to declare war, but I do not think so. Maybe in middle east again or possibly Iran, but with China, it will be third world war.
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04-18-20 22:06 #133
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
Doctors suspect, though, and are still trying to prove beyond a doubt, that antibodies to Covid-19 mean one is immune down the line. " The latter remains open, and it's a significant question indeed.
Also, even if the death rate is scaled downward substantially as the result of wider, like testing, there's still a number of other problems associated with placing restrictions only on the elderly while allowing everyone else to get back to business as usual. Those are found in the below article. This is an idea that British considered but back off of for good reason.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ly-vulnerable/
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04-18-20 22:03 #132
Posts: 796Two good options for FKK to open sooner
A) a constant daught / wind can reduce infection a lot:
In a recent german TV show (Maybrit Ilgner), https://youtu.be/5ulKfdHm5wU?t=1094 (exact position), Prof Drosten (Germany's most famous virologist) said something *super-important*:
Essentially if there is a constant draught, then the coronavirus would have a much less chance to settle.
B) an app, that could show someones personal risk score, based on the vicinity of folks one was with in the past 5 days, and whether those were infected or not.
Easy to create this draught, with ventilators in the rooms. Likely dehumidifiers might help too. If the air is dry, the aerosols will be killed.
And also easy to make the risk-score app mandatory for certain establishments. At the door the FKK-clubs, could simply say, that either mongers / girls need to show that they are immun or have a low risk score. Done.
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04-18-20 21:49 #131
Posts: 796This Spahn-dude (health minister) is so full of shit. How dares he calls the epidemy under control or controllable? After a few days of stagnation? BTW: the latest daily infection numbers are already accelerating by 50%.
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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04-18-20 21:44 #130
Posts: 796Yes, 3. 4% is a shitty number. That even the WHO quoted. It was most stupid, to take just confirmed cases divid it by the death toll.
But no, the death rate is certainly nothing like a normal flu. There is one famous Heinsberg study in Germany, which was also quite thorough and here the numbers are more like 0. 4% - but you know that is still 10 x higher than severe flu. And that explains why they have a hard time carrying away dead bodies from certain hospitals, where it hit particular hard.
Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
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04-18-20 19:40 #129
Posts: 811The death rate is much lower than we've been told
Salaam zusammen,
As you know it's been hard to know the fatality rate of Coronavirus, and the figures have been all over the place. Part of the problem is that they've only been testing people who show up in hospital with bad symptoms, so we don't know how many people in the general public are infected.
However, a recent study has shed some light on this:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/17/h...udy/index.html
According to scientists testing for antibodies, in Santa Clara county, on April 1 between 48,000 and 81,000 people were infected. That sounds huge, but the good news is that only 50 people had died. So that's a fatality rate of under 0. 1%. That's the same as the death rate for common flu.
If you are under 50, your risk probably goes down to 0. 01%. If you're under 30,0. 001%.
Why have the governments of the world been so slow to do studies like the Santa Clara one? Why have they been so slow to test in general? Why are they not being honest about the death rate? We all heard the 3. 4% figure, right? But it's not true.
I suspect that if young people knew how small the risks are to them, they would be much more reluctant to shutter up their restaurants, stop going to parties, etc. The lockdown would not seem justified.
But it's the elderly who make the decisions. I've said that the solution to the crisis is simply to quarantine the elderly. But politicians will not consider this option, because it means that they themselves will be isolated. Politicians have meetings all day, and their credibility rests on that. Do you think Donald Trump would agree to go into isolation and participate only by videoconferencing for the next year, while younger wolves asserted themselves physically in the White House? It's the same with all politicians. They are obsessed with power: that's how they got to where they are. So their attitude is: "If we go into isolation, everybody goes into isolation!" They won't loosen their grip for an instant.
Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo [View Original Post]
I repeat that young women have very strong immune systems. Even if a WG got the virus, the chances are her system battled with it for one day, defeated it, produced antibodies, and she never even noticed this was going on because there were no symptoms.
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04-18-20 17:52 #128
Posts: 22248Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
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04-18-20 13:43 #127
Posts: 7321Laboratory in Wuhan.
Finally, US is seeking to investigate laboratory in Wuhan I have been saying from the beginning. I do not think it was deliberately leaked, but leaked by mistake due to misconduct.
It was originally french who helped Chinese to make this lab and french backed off, then Chinese just began running the lab themselves. If french stayed on to managed the plant, it would have been better managed lab, but let see if USA can prove that it was leaked. I don't think it will be opened to public though, they will just use it as a car for foreign affair negotiation against Chinese, which USA should do.
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04-18-20 12:03 #126
Posts: 188Cvirus exit
So make the picture.
Austria and Germany quickly to a new normality.
And don t forget that Germany have a big Pharma industry for all the equipment e the vaccine.
For the hospital never had ICU problem.
So poor Italy, please don't censored this because I m Italian, with its lousy health system and politicians, e 1/3 of the country mafialand. Will be the first to entry in crisis and the last to exit.
For 1 or 2 years no more Italian customers in FKK.
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04-18-20 09:50 #125
Posts: 22248Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
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04-18-20 05:44 #124
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
But we can control the death rate by not destroying medical infrastructure and also having good hospital to begin with. There are very few nations who can cope with such sudden required production of medical equipment like life supporting system, artificial lung system etc. Only nations with good high tech industries.
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04-18-20 04:21 #123
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
Look, Japan, USA, Germany are the biggest countries by far with our structures of the nation, we cover all major areas of industries from medical, technologies to even fashion to whatever you want to name and when it comes to Nobel award, we are the only Asian nation who keep on winning Nobel award is most prestigious area which is chemistry and physics. However, if you are in G5 nations before G7, these G5 nations are most civilized even though we have different culture.
It is not all GDP, it is just number, if you believe G7 is just GDP, then you need to wake up little bit with propaganda. G7 is not just GDP as they claim it is. Don't believe in all things they throw at you. Look, with your logic, China would be in G7 long time ago, but there is reason why China is not in G7. Either way, only nation which is bigger capacity than Japan is USA and it will always will be and it should be USA who is king of this world. China is big, but it is just a size, quantity, but no quality.
Italy is good country, I love their food, culture and people, I traveled from calabria in south to few cities in north for holiday, but not this year, do I have to go to these nations every year, if I don't go you use it as your argument point? LOL USA too, I been to many cities in USA both east and west and even sedona Arizona and Utah etc. For holiday, but man again do I have to go every year? This year I went to doha, Budapest and zurich and yes it was good my dick getting sucked LOL!
Don't believe in everything that is written, we are fine so far and we had this much longer than you since China is right next to us, but that does not mean it is going to be OK and we are trying to prepare ourselves with best of our abilities, but expecting difficult time ahead, I hope we are going to be OK, but we are not so hopeful.
And hey, be kind to Japan, it is a small nation in far east that rose to be top nation bigger than most beside USA with our intellect, hard work, team work, good quality, creativity, and most importantly honest among other things, we did not build all these mega companies for no solid reason as good intelligent nation. In Europe, German has similar structure to Japan, they also cover most area of industries, some they are bigger, but in most we are bigger whether it is banks, fashion or whatever. Let see, now Japan we going to open door to immigration, something we did not do till recently, we studied from European mistakes, so let see if immigration will work out fine with Japan in few decades time, we try to choose more carefully than Europe, arguably LOL.
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04-18-20 01:01 #122
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
Japan do not have this white western ego of invading world, we tend to be more team player than west, but west tend to have attitude most of time, and we most have to time adjust the behavior.
For Medic in G7, Japan, Germany and USA has the most of pharma and medical equipment companies that are top notch, but we all sell and collaborate with each other, so hospital levels are all similar level with similar equipment, it is just that some nations are more organized than others, which showed in this case. Japan focused on death rate, not so much on infection rate which is hard to control, but death we can control by protecting medical system and let those who can be fixed to stay home with medication like Avigan made by Fuji film Japan.
Avigan works for first 6 weeks of symptom so far, but it is not medicine made for this, it was made for bird influenza, so bat is close.
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04-18-20 00:03 #121
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]
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04-17-20 22:43 #120
Posts: 6420Controlled
The German authorities seem to be confident that they have things under control. I hope they are right, and that things remain under control in FKKland. One step closer to getting back to our "hobby".