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[Black Page]

Out of topic, maybe, but people needs also to eat, sometimes.

I recommend TATSEVEN, a fast food on the other side of the same street of Bacardi (M.Kemal).
It is probably the only good place in the area. All restaurants around do not look good places where to have fresh fish...

Kebabs and grill. The meals are good and very cheap.
It is not a restaurant, but if I am hungry at 2am or 3am that's the place where I go. I guess it closes at 5am or never.

[Black Page]

Dear Mr. Page, (do you mind if I call you Black?)
I agree with most of what you write, though I'd like to add a couple of evening hangouts a bit further to the west in Aksaray (Sultan and Kent clubs) where I've had nice experiences in the past. I also tend to like Gold Can a bit more than you seem to. But one question: where the **** is this Pluton Restaurant? I've probably walked past it a hundred times without noticing its name. Is it one of these places that LOOK like rip-off discos?

My last name is not Page, so you can call me as you like! :-)

I had a bad experience in Sultan, if I am not confused, one year ago (see my past report). If am not wrong, girls there were Romanian claiming that all Romanians do not do BJs :-0

I do like GodCan, but when I went there this time girls were low quality (except the wonderful one I reported)

The Pluton is exactly in front of GC. Beware: there is a disco, a restaurant, and a hotel (same owner and name).
I went to the restaurant. It looks a ripoff, and it is expensive (I paid 60YTL for 2 drinks), but at least there was live music.
AND, in these weeks there is Elya! (I am in love, too bad I am far now...).

[Priamos]

Pluton restaurant (not disco!). This is a new entry. I sampled it on Sunday night, around 1am. Surprise: while I enter, a couple made of a Turkish man with covered Islamic wife comes out (!!).
I thought "this is not the club for me", but I was wrong. Live music, full of people, groups of noisy mixed men and women, AND some working women (what we look for). Bill: 60 YLT for 2 drinks (including fruits, nuts, etc., for me and girl). Expensive, but I would not consider this place a tourist trap. There was good live music and, at least, waiters were not pushy at all. I chose where to sit, taking all the time I needed. See below.

Dear Mr. Page, (do you mind if I call you Black?)

I agree with most of what you write, though I'd like to add a couple of evening hangouts a bit further to the west in Aksaray (Sultan and Kent clubs) where I've had nice experiences in the past. I also tend to like Gold Can a bit more than you seem to. But one question: where the **** is this Pluton Restaurant? I've probably walked past it a hundred times without noticing its name. Is it one of these places that LOOK like rip-off discos?

[Entel Cuce]

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[Muratlale4]

Black Page,

Very good report!

I will checkout pluto as soon as possible. The only problem I have is with your assesment of Bacardi. But hey the rest is very well written and explained.

Thumbs up

muratlale4

[Ufbebaba]

Perfect report full of details. You should have been a journalist !


[QUOTE=Black Page]Dear all,

I am just on my flight back from 4 days in Istanbul.
After 1 year from my first long report (http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1582), I noticed that things did not change much in Aksaray.
Most of remarks I gave then are still valid. Since I do not want to repeat much, I would invite you to read it again. Here, I limit to summarize and to give "incremental" information.

[Black Page]

Dear all,

I am just on my flight back from 4 days in Istanbul.
After 1 year from my first long report (http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1582), I noticed that things did not change much in Aksaray.
Most of remarks I gave then are still valid. Since I do not want to repeat much, I would invite you to read it again. Here, I limit to summarize and to give "incremental" information.

Most important information in this report: I discovered TWO GEMS (see Sec. 3.). Unbelievable hit of good luck! Two gems in the garbage, I'd say.


1. RIP-OFF CLUBS
In Aksaray, it is very easy to be overpriced. In MOST bars/clubs, the standard scene is the following (experienced many times, unfortunately, because I wanted to sample new places):
- you enter and you are immediately escorted to a table (why should I be not allowed to choose where to sit??), with lots of unsolicited "Welcome my friend!" (please, notice the word "friend");
- they bring to your table many dishes with poor fruit, nuts, etc.
- a kind of robot every 5 minutes comes to adjust the position of dishes, tissues, etc. on your table; it does not matter if you try to move things back to original position; I think they believe it is a good service to stay in front of you, stopping the view of girls, moving tissues 1 mm back or forth repeatedly,
aiming at a supposed optimal layout;
- some guy even comes and sits besides you, offering to send you a girl to the table (am I not able to choose on my own??); it is very difficult to get rid of him;
- the resulting bill, for your drink (I take a beer) and the drink of 1 girl that comes to your table, may be in range from 50 to 70 YTL!


2. PLACES TO GO
So, are there any "honest" places where to go? Yes, but only the usual ones well mentioned in this forum.
The only places where I have been not overpriced are:

- Big Pub: 8 YTL/drink. This weekend, mostly old woman (30+). Seedy, very popular. I saw a cpl of nice girls, though. This is a place where I always go, just to have a look without spending much. I have fun listening to Turkish popular music and seeing 50-60yo men dancing.

- Gold Can: ~15 YTL/drink. I went 2 times in this trip. Seedy, most women are 30+ and rather sleazy, but ONE GEM is there in these weeks!! (see below).

- Irmak: ~40 YTL for 2 drinks (mine + girl). In these days, the quality of girls looked below the average I was used to in my past trip, but still better than in BP and GC on the average. Overall, I was disappointed. I was used to see more beatiful Moldavian girls here.

- Pluton restaurant (not disco!). This is a new entry. I sampled it on Sunday night, around 1am. Surprise: while I enter, a couple made of a Turkish man with covered Islamic wife comes out (!!).
I thought "this is not the club for me", but I was wrong. Live music, full of people, groups of noisy mixed men and women, AND some working women (what we look for). Bill: 60 YLT for 2 drinks (including fruits, nuts, etc., for me and girl). Expensive, but I would not consider this place a tourist trap. There
was good live music and, at least, waiters were not pushy at all. I chose where to sit, taking all the time I needed. See below.

- Ozgur Disco (side of BigPub)
A kind of normal disco, even no cover (incredible in this road, I know). I ordered a beer because and when I wanted, nobody pushed me (10 YTL). SOme interesting girls, some other Turksih "not working" girls also present. Be prudent, do not approach with too much confidence some girl that is there only for dancing :-)


3. GIRLS
I had 3 experiences: a rip-off (in Bacardi) and two OUTSTANDING meetings that will last long in my memory. Above any expectation!!

3.1. BACARDI
Why all people in the forum keeps to recommend this hole? It is NOT worth to spend all this money!
When I enter, immediately a guy offers to shake my hand and tries to escort me to a table in the dark back. I play naif, I shake his hand, I smile, I say some nonsense in pseudoEnglish and I run away trying to make at least ONE tour of the room before being sit (I want a place from where it is possible to "study" girls dancing and sitting, not a corner from where I cannot have full view). Immediately, the guys become 2, and 3, all around and following me, even the manager comes to stop me! It seems that it is easier to demonstrate for democracy in Tien An Men than making a walk in this dark room.
Finally, I must sit down where they want, I order, I take my beer and as soon as guys are far from me, and not considering me a danger, I stand up and I rush to the best table that I spotted. Woosh! Why it is so hard to get a good place?? From then on, sit at place I chose, I have 2 guys monitoring me at close distance for all the time. Guys, this place is a no-walk area.
Girls are stunning! But they are like robots and ask too high prices (200 USD/2 hrs or so). They know they are beautiful and do not feel the need to do anything else for earning money.
I made a big mistake. After having talked to the coldest girl I could imagine (from Moldavia, cold like an android in a science fiction movie, asked 300USD!), I chose a stunning one from Turkmenistan. She asked 300 YTL for 2 hrs, paid in advance, and then I had a mechanical robot in the bed.
Bacardi bill: 180YTL for 4 drinks (the Moldavian ordered twice without asking me). I complained, I said I did not have enough money in the pocket and... SURPRISE!! Bill was reduced to 90YTL ("dont worry my friend!"). You will agree that it is not common to see the bill reduced in a club. This is the only good point of the night...
NEVER AGAIN in this shit-hole for rich tourists!
I report my bad adventure, where I honestly acted as an idiot, to warn people to avoid it. Bacardi is not worth all the money is asked, by both the place and the girls. I do not understand the point to come here to waste so much money. I regret I did it.

3.2 GOLD CAN.
Rather seedy, most girls are 30+ yo, but the bill is honest. Live music before 1am, with a good Turskish singer.
IN THESE WEEKS THERE IS ONE GEM: a russian girl, 19yo, with very long copper-colored hair. It is easy to spot her, because she is good looking (by far the best) and has very long hair (till the butt, almost).
She asked me 100USD for 2 hrs (70YTL for the hotel). Honest good price, if I consider that she is as beatiful as those in Bacardi. What's more, she is not a cold robot, but seems determined to give her best in her job.
I had one of the best mongering experiences in my life: BBBJ, total GFE, sweeeeeet good looking girl, always aiming to give her best. Naked, she looks even better: almost perfect, like a photomodel. Believe me, she is not the girl you expect in a seedy bar.
If you go to have a look, then you'll probably want to pay me a drink. :-)

3.3 BIG PUB.
All girls are too old and well-seasoned to my taste. Sampled 3 nights. I just drank a beer.

3.4 IRMAK
I was disappointed. The service is the usual. Girls are better looking than those in BP and GC, but well-seasoned and worse-looking than what I remembered the previous times I visited (1 year and 6 months ago). I did not choose any of them. I sat once with a very tall blonde Russian, but she asked me 200 USD (300YTL) for 2 hrs. It looked over-market to me and I left.

3.5 PLUTON RESTAURANT
Surprise! This place looked another rip-off place to my eye, but I wanted to sample it anyway, Sunday 1am.
As I wrote, while I entered, a couple made of a Turkish man with covered Islamic wife came out (!!).
I was thinking "this is not the club for me", but I was wrong. Live music, full of people, groups of mixed men and women, AND some working women (what we look for). I sat where I wanted, with no pressure from waiters, close to a table with 5 girls: 2 from Uzbekistan, 1 Kirghiz (?) with all golden teeth (!), another from some other country of that East region, and a TRUE JEWEL: a beautiful sweet girl from Azeirbajan, named Elya.
GO TO HAVE A LOOK and, as above, you'll feel the need to pay me a drink.
She is 20, with long blond-coloured hair, like a rasta raggae-man, innocent look like a good girl in a wrong place. You cannot be wrong in spotting her.
I believe I am an expert in this subject, but I felt like she gave me the best BBBJ CIM in my life!
She looks young, innocent an unexperienced when you talk to her, but she is wild and good as a pornostar.
She jumped on my downthere like it was her last/only opportunity in her life to have one. Incredible.
She told me that she came to Istanbul 5 days ago and she will leave on 5 July. So, hurry up...
Total damage: 100USD to her (2hrs), 70YTL to Pluton hotel, 20+20 tips in restaurant and hotel (shit!!), 60 of restaurant bill (2 drinks).


4. OTHER CLUBS
Sat night I decided to sample the last 3 disco clubs in MK road (on the other end from Bacardi). They looked clear traps (guys outside try to pull you inside whenever you walk by), but I decided to have a look.
In all 3 places: full of people (Sat night), ~10 girls all looking too well-seasoned and old (25-35yo) to my taste. In all 3 places, I managed to have a look around, thank the guys and leave without paying anything.

[Footloose]

Does anyone have any information about Hotel Beyce in Aksaray? It's down the street from Hotel Aksaray. A couple of years ago a Persian friend took me to Beyce. We stayed at Hotel Aksaray for sleeping, about 20-30 USD per night, and got rooms at Beyce just for the girls that work there. It's a brothel, only not a government brothel, and I havn't read any reports here about independent brothels. You get a room for 20 USD and the girls are 20-30USD per pop. I've been there on two seperate occasions, both times during Rammadan (hope I'm not offending anyone here). There was a pretty good female to male ratio there, I don't know how things are during the regular season.

Now granted, a lot of the girls are 5s and 6s, but each night there was at least 3-4 girls that were 7s and 8s. No blond Eastern Europeans there. A lot of girls from Turkmenastan, Uzbekastan, and one gorgeous Morrocan girl the first night. I'd like to find more Persian and Arab girls.

The first time I got the Morrocan girl who was absolutely hot, an easy 9, and very tight. She was also the furthest thing from GFE I've ever had. Semi enthusiastic BBJ, but no kissing, very little fondling aloud on my part. I was pretty much expected to lay there (which may work for some). In the end she seemed to feel a little bad that she was so picky, and offered to be more warm on the next one. I believe her, only I never got around to seeing her again.

The second girl was a MILF from Turkmenastan, very pretty and had a petite body. This was as good a GFE as I've had even with a good GF. She was experienced, great kisser, and pretty damn horny. I did an all nighter with her for 100 USD, and well into the next morning.

The third girl on a seperate visit (a year later, this last Rammadan) was also from Turkmenistan, I think. The GFE level was about half way between the previous two. Very pretty girl, unfortunately had implants, great legs. 20 USD per pop, did her once in the morning then again a couple hours later.

I'm just a little curious as to why this place hasn't been mentioned (or perhaps I didn't search well enough) considering how cheap it is and how hot some of the girls are (at least when I went). Maybe it's a total scam, and I just got lucky that I went during the off season. Also, the hotel is a about a half star hotel, hence why we stayed at Aksaray hotel for the night. All the girls were very clean though. Does anyone know of other places like this?

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I wish I had known about this place prior to my recent visit. I certainly would like to have tried the exotic ones from Turkmenistan. I did have a good time with a Moldovian that I picked up from Irmak. She was a true GFE and spent a couple of hrs with me at a local hotel. There was quite a few good looking EE girls on the block at the other restaurants on the same street as Irmak.

[Artanis1443]

Does anyone have any information about Hotel Beyce in Aksaray? It's down the street from Hotel Aksaray. A couple of years ago a Persian friend took me to Beyce. We stayed at Hotel Aksaray for sleeping, about 20-30 USD per night, and got rooms at Beyce just for the girls that work there. It's a brothel, only not a government brothel, and I havn't read any reports here about independent brothels. You get a room for 20 USD and the girls are 20-30USD per pop. I've been there on two seperate occasions, both times during Rammadan (hope I'm not offending anyone here). There was a pretty good female to male ratio there, I don't know how things are during the regular season.

Now granted, a lot of the girls are 5s and 6s, but each night there was at least 3-4 girls that were 7s and 8s. No blond Eastern Europeans there. A lot of girls from Turkmenastan, Uzbekastan, and one gorgeous Morrocan girl the first night. I'd like to find more Persian and Arab girls.

The first time I got the Morrocan girl who was absolutely hot, an easy 9, and very tight. She was also the furthest thing from GFE I've ever had. Semi enthusiastic BBJ, but no kissing, very little fondling aloud on my part. I was pretty much expected to lay there (which may work for some). In the end she seemed to feel a little bad that she was so picky, and offered to be more warm on the next one. I believe her, only I never got around to seeing her again.

The second girl was a MILF from Turkmenastan, very pretty and had a petite body. This was as good a GFE as I've had even with a good GF. She was experienced, great kisser, and pretty damn horny. I did an all nighter with her for 100 USD, and well into the next morning.

The third girl on a seperate visit (a year later, this last Rammadan) was also from Turkmenistan, I think. The GFE level was about half way between the previous two. Very pretty girl, unfortunately had implants, great legs. 20 USD per pop, did her once in the morning then again a couple hours later.

I'm just a little curious as to why this place hasn't been mentioned (or perhaps I didn't search well enough) considering how cheap it is and how hot some of the girls are (at least when I went). Maybe it's a total scam, and I just got lucky that I went during the off season. Also, the hotel is a about a half star hotel, hence why we stayed at Aksaray hotel for the night. All the girls were very clean though. Does anyone know of other places like this?

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[Low Skill]

Ahah man it is pretty funny but you should know that expression; friend is a pimp of his friend; )

Btw I am back again after a short brake, it is good to be here and in action.

I have been mongering over these years and I have never Buddy sorry for that awkward situation. No hard feelings.

[Big Bro AJ]

I have been mongering over these years and I have never felt awkward till last night.

Last night I went to an incall of an independent friend`s house for couple of hours.She lives with other 3 girls.

I gave her number to a fellow monger from ISG, he called last night and she asked me to talk to him. They have a kind of problem on understanding each other.

Later that night I felt like pimp which is far away from me.

I have been confused with bouncers bartenders managers but this time I felt like a pimp.

It seems like its time to question some of my relations...


Buddy sorry for that awkward situation... No hard feelings...

[Yupi Yup]

ahem,

please also translate to share the fun with non-Turkish mongers? :-)

It is something like you cant do any sh.t with that money

[Big Bro AJ]

There are some mongers who prefer to pay 200YTL for a blowjob/handjob in a MP. I don't understand how they can be relax on those massage tables. Anyway...none of my business.

Its an argument but according to my taste of women and sex, Aksaray is dead.

Yes, some say Serenda is a great place for a quicky. But all depend on girl. It happended to me couple of times. The girl looks like a hidden jewel at the downstairs but in the room she turns into a *****.

If you live alone, than no need to go to Aksaray. One way or other the money you spend are equal.

In Aksaray: Tip, drinks,snacks, hotel, girl come up to something around 200-350$.

On the other hand, if you call a girl in your place than the prices changes due to girl.

You can find girls 150$ for all night or $200 for 2 hours.

But also there are some lucky ones like NT, whom get girls only for $50. All depend on reliable contacts and trust.

[Black Page]

I know its against the rules to write in another language other than English but this is the only way to explain the situation to a Turkish monger

"O para ile hic bir halt edemezsın"

ahem...
please also translate to share the fun with non-Turkish mongers? :-)

[Etaoin2003]

All I found near Taxim on side streets was deep voiced TVs. Scary stuff.