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05-25-22 00:51 #673
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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05-25-22 00:50 #672
Posts: 1680Yep
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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05-25-22 00:35 #671
Posts: 516To the list of your usual cretinisms, let's add dishonest use of partial quotes.
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
"By pointing out Mariupol's proximity to Russia, and the fact that it's taken nearly 3 months to overcome Ukrainian resistance, the clear conclusion is that any portrayal of it as a notable Russian "victory" is ludicrous.
And, at the time of my earlier post, there were conflicting reports as to whether all of the Ukrainian forces has surrendered or left. Please forgive me if I find your reference to an exclusively Russian source as less than persuasive. I prefer to wait for third-party confirmation, or the passage of a sufficient amount of time, as I never base any conclusion on official reports by either side".
So, as is incontestably apparent, to all but the delusional and (or) dishonest, the "third-party confirmation" phrase clearly refers to matters of fact. In this particular case it concerned the actual status of Ukrainian troops in Mariupol because, unlike your reliance on Russian propaganda, I refuse to rely on official sources from either side.
Once again you've dropped your pants and revealed how pathetic and puny your (intellectual) equipment is. Maybe you should invest in a prosthetic?
Or perhaps the problem is that you simply have difficulty differentiating fact from opinion? Here's a primer: Facts refer to things like reality-based events and circumstances that can be objectively verified. And, since objectivity is key, parties who have their own agendas are inherently problematic and confirmation by a reliable third party is both desirable and appropriate. None of that applies to matters of opinion. In that arena, there is no such thing as third-party "confirmation" because that only means that you've found another person who happens to agrees with a certain opinion.
Big fucking deal and so fucking what! You could have a million people agreeing with one side of a debatable issue (like the effects of Russian sanctions) and that still doesn't make it right. Debates are won by evidence and logic. But I guess those two concepts are like a foreign language to you, as is honesty. It must really suck for those in your circle of family and (if you have any) friends to have to endure the odious presence someone with your deceptive and manipulative tendencies. You should conduct an anonymous poll of your associates. I'm betting the results would be mind-blowingly, off-the-charts, negative. Oh, and I'd be happy to volunteer for third-party confirmation!
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05-24-22 22:30 #670
Posts: 1056Hitler Was Nominated
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
You got to love Americans, the most stupid fatties on the planet. That said, the question: who gets it right more often: the Simpsons or South Park? I go with South Park though I am not really a cartoon guy.
Funny all these attacks on peace maker Vlad Putin. Anyone know why he walks with a stiff right arm? (to stay near his gun, standard KGB operating procedure). Putin and his pals saved Russia, good people. Now they are saving Ukraine. And sending their remaining shit to Israel.
The game goes on but not, for the moment for me as I am still nursing injuries (age). I might watch a little of Scarface? You know what is the best part of the best Hollywood directors? They acknowledge their debt to Mother Russia (and France, of course).
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05-24-22 20:19 #669
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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05-24-22 19:51 #668
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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05-24-22 19:41 #667
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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05-24-22 18:10 #666
Posts: 516Crowd chant at St. Petersburg concert: Fuck the War
Funny what can happen when people feel that the anonymity of a crowd enables them to speak freely. I haven't seen an estimate of the crowd size, but it appears to be in the thousands and possibly the tens of thousands.
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/russ...371-2022-05-24
And it's worth noting that St. Petersburg is one of the premier centers of ethnic Russia, and somewhere you'd expect pro-Putin sentiment to be at its highest. It'll be interesting to see what kinds of measures the Kremlin puts in place to ensure this doesn't happen again.
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05-24-22 17:48 #665
Posts: 516More economic analysis on negative effects of Russian sanctions
As always, posted as info for those who choose to read and decide for themselves.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...nctions-2022-5
Of course, there are those who are predisposed to ignore the content itself and attack or ridicule the authors. I think it's become quite apparent which forum members prefer to tread the path of intellectual vacuousness and vapidity.
P.S. I would also point out that this analysis makes essentially the same point as the one I posted earlier, which is that the drastic drop in goods flowing into Russia is its Achilles' Heel.
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05-24-22 17:23 #664
Posts: 516Gaming the system while keeping exit options open
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
IMO, any Russian opposed to the war, or worried about their country's future, has probably thought about or made plans for leaving, either temporarily or permanently. And it's not surprising to me that some would straddle the fence for as long as possible, keeping their options open but not making a final decision unless or until the exit door is about to slam shut. So my thoughts are that these returnees (to the extent they haven't burned all their bridges), with 2nd passports in hand, are part of that "straddle" group.
Their biggest problem will be if the exit door shuts suddenly and unexpectedly. Then they'll be mostly screwed. Also, if something happens to put them on the radar of authorities while still in Russia, they'll experience the same result (screwed). Notice that the article makes no mention of Ukrainian refugees similarly gaming the system.
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05-24-22 14:24 #663
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
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05-24-22 11:56 #662
Posts: 2844Jumping Ship.
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
"Putin's Senior Adviser Reportedly in Israel After Leaving Russia Over Ukraine Invasion.
Russian-Jewish Anatoly Chubais was the Kremlin's special representative for ties with international organizations, and had been an architect of economic reforms and privatization under Boris Yeltsin in the 1990's."
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ion-1.10783221
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05-24-22 10:55 #661
Posts: 2844Gone back To Russia.
With a second passport and cash in hand, Gone back to Russia!
"One-third of Russian olim left Israel after 1 month with new passport, Cash.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-705369
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05-24-22 02:40 #660
Posts: 516I said nothing in my post about third-party confirmation.
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
What I did say was:
1. Nobel laureate.
2. Economist.
3. Analysis of Russian sanctions.
And, as a factual matter, all of the above are absolutely true.
As far as the analysis itself, I posted it primarily for information purposes and, while I included a brief summary, I didn't comment on, or endorse, any of the elements of the analysis. Everyone can read and make up their own mind.
So, if you want challenge or rebut anything in the article, knock yourself out. But when you try to insinuate that there's something in a post that isn't there, you're swimming neck-deep in Pedro M's shit-filled swimming pool. Is that really where you want to be?
One of the key elements of an intellectually honest debate is accurately portraying the other person's positions and statements, even if you disagree. Engaging in distortion or, even worse, ad hominem, is a clear indication that you're unwilling or unable to debate on the merits of the argument itself.
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05-23-22 21:48 #659
Posts: 6439Never have I been so ashamed!
If only our "Evo" Morales shared some of the same:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...d2b18b6727bf99