Sao Paulo Reports

[WhiteBunny1]

Unfortunately your questions don't have a simple, direct answer. You can read back on this thread and the Rio one for discussions about hotels. People have varying experiences and I think a lot depends on your looks / age and the girls look / age. Good hotels don't want to be seen as a hooker haven on the one hand but it's Brazil on the other. Discretion is best even in Sampa. If you're really intending to do 2 girls a day, I'd be expecting either a Airbnb or hotel to have questions, at least initially, over a 2 week period. How good is your Portuguese? If poor / non-existent then I'd go another route, especially as you seem a bit skittish. If on the other hand you have no problem arguing with security / front desk with a garota by your side, it's worth a shot. Also a little propina (ponta?) for the apartment door staff can do wonders.

As an alternative, consider the boates or clinicas that have room attached. Or contact ABG as a guide, well worth the investment.

Speaking of which we haven't heard anything from ABG in awhile. Hope everything is OK.

Alright, thanks for the advice. But is there only apartments with front desk or what? Like 99% of them on Airbnb are in huge condo kinda. And my Portuguese is OK (almost fluent I'd say). So, my only options are escort from time to time, clinicas, boates and street prostitutes?

[HarvestBoi]

Unfortunately your questions don't have a simple, direct answer. You can read back on this thread and the Rio one for discussions about hotels. People have varying experiences and I think a lot depends on your looks / age and the girls look / age. Good hotels don't want to be seen as a hooker haven on the one hand but it's Brazil on the other. Discretion is best even in Sampa. If you're really intending to do 2 girls a day, I'd be expecting either a Airbnb or hotel to have questions, at least initially, over a 2 week period. How good is your Portuguese? If poor / non-existent then I'd go another route, especially as you seem a bit skittish. If on the other hand you have no problem arguing with security / front desk with a garota by your side, it's worth a shot. Also a little propina (ponta?) for the apartment door staff can do wonders.

As an alternative, consider the boates or clinicas that have room attached. Or contact ABG as a guide, well worth the investment.

Speaking of which we haven't heard anything from ABG in awhile. Hope everything is OK.

Hi guys,

I plan to go to So Paulo in 2 months for 2 weeks and I really don't know much about prostitution / escorts / parlors, where to stay, hotel or motel or Airbnb etc.

I thought about staying around Liberdad in the center of SP, but I don't know if I should rent an Airbnb, a hotel room or something else. The problem with the good old Airbnb apartment is that there is a front desk and h24 security to watch who come in and out. So, what should I do? I'll probably go with 2 girls per day (once in the morning and once in the evening) at least, so I don't really want the owner of the apartment to call me or even worse, kick me out.

For the sex, I'm kinda introvert and a little bit paranoid ("what if I encounter someone I know", "what if people look at me asking a girl to get laid, etc.) so I don't think that roaming the street talking to prostitutes asking for the price and the services provided is the right option for me. So I thought about escort that you talk to via websites and whatsapp, do you recommend one website in particular? Is it a bad idea? One last thing: I think that I'll use this opportunity to do stuff that regular girls don't really do much after a tinder date (Facial, recording, trio, maybe in "public" places?) Do you think that girls there would do things like that for a little bit more money?

[BarryWood]

On the eve of a trip to Sao Paulo, I browsed around this forum on the local scene. The boates descriptions caught my eye for being so over the top, 150-200 women a night? Unlike anywhere in the world? I considered myself a well-traveled hedonist and was skeptical of the hyperbole, but I'll check it out myself.

The experience matters to me more than a few hundred are $... I offer her are $1000 and she readily accepts, and we head out... we agreed on are $800... I suggested at dinner are $1200 and she happily agreed...

Is this review in USD or BRL?

I've seen different prices listed on different review sites, and escort listings I'm not sure are real or not.

[WhiteBunny1]

Hi guys,

I plan to go to São Paulo in 2 months for 2 weeks and I really don't know much about prostitution / escorts / parlors, where to stay, hotel or motel or Airbnb etc.

I thought about staying around Liberdad in the center of SP, but I don't know if I should rent an Airbnb, a hotel room or something else. The problem with the good old Airbnb apartment is that there is a front desk and h24 security to watch who come in and out. So, what should I do? I'll probably go with 2 girls per day (once in the morning and once in the evening) at least, so I don't really want the owner of the apartment to call me or even worse, kick me out.

For the sex, I'm kinda introvert and a little bit paranoid ("what if I encounter someone I know", "what if people look at me asking a girl to get laid, etc.) so I don't think that roaming the street talking to prostitutes asking for the price and the services provided is the right option for me. So I thought about escort that you talk to via websites and whatsapp, do you recommend one website in particular? Is it a bad idea? One last thing: I think that I'll use this opportunity to do stuff that regular girls don't really do much after a tinder date (Facial, recording, trio, maybe in "public" places?) Do you think that girls there would do things like that for a little bit more money?

[Hobbying]

My understanding is the garotas have to pay a fee to get in the first night but if they show up the next and subsequent nights it's free (or there may be small consumao each night). If they skip a night they go back to paying the entry (250 $R). It's hard to see how the club doesn't exert some face / body control. They certainly control what the girls wear, hair, makeup etc. I joked with ABG that the big difference between Scandallo and Tangara was the fancy shoes. Otherwise fugly girls would hang around for A big 800 $ payday for several days before calling it quits.

Another big help for these fugly girls is alcohol, when a client gets drunk, they start to look OK.

[HarvestBoi]

I'm having deja vu. Didn't we have this convo a ways back? One of the things that fascinates me about Brazil is the similarities and differences of how these 2 great countries dealt with African slavery. Keep in mind the idea in biology of hybrid vigor, the idea that when you cross two phenotypes, the cross often has advantages. Think of all the hot mixed race girls you've fucked. The best experience I had last year was a half Portuguese half African. Fuck she was hot. Lots of top models are multiracial too. Still white skin is more marketable nearly everywhere.

I think if you look back at my posts, I have not said Scandallo is up to any discriminatory practices. I don't even think the club has anything to do with the racial composite of the girls.

I just think there are local socioeconomic factors, supply & demand factors and even that global phenomenon of many men being attracted to blondes.

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[HarvestBoi]

My understanding is the garotas have to pay a fee to get in the first night but if they show up the next and subsequent nights it's free (or there may be small consumao each night). If they skip a night they go back to paying the entry (250 $R). It's hard to see how the club doesn't exert some face / body control. They certainly control what the girls wear, hair, makeup etc. I joked with ABG that the big difference between Scandallo and Tangara was the fancy shoes. Otherwise fugly girls would hang around for A big 800 $ payday for several days before calling it quits.

According to a girl, the club does not turn away girls that want to work there since from time to time there are really fugly girls there. These fugly girls quickly get the hint that they are no match for the girls that are there and this is why you see celebs there sometimes.

[Kcrl01]

According to a girl, the club does not turn away girls that want to work there since from time to time there are really fugly girls there. These fugly girls quickly get the hint that they are no match for the girls that are there and this is why you see celebs there sometimes.

I've been with (IMHO) hot girls at Casarao and a few other places. They were 10's in my book. When I would ask why don't they work at Scandallos and make the serious cash the overall response was they tried it once or twice, but realized they could not compete the top shelf GdPs. Of all the things you might say about these women, the thing that gets my attention is that they are realists!

[Enphl]

I will be in town Saturday and am interested in going to Clinca Tangara or Kahunas. I see that 25 Jan will be a holiday, SP Anniversary. Does anyone know of those places will be open or have different hours?

Also, from what I read, getting bbbj is not 100% at Clincas. Is it ok to just ask during the intro? I've only been to privs so I'm not sure of the procedure and even in privs, they usually only pop in for a few seconds. Also, how do you ask in Portuguese since I only speak English?

[Hobbying]

I think if you look back at my posts, I have not said Scandallo is up to any discriminatory practices. I don't even think the club has anything to do with the racial composite of the girls.

I just think there are local socioeconomic factors, supply & demand factors and even that global phenomenon of many men being attracted to blondes.

According to a girl, the club does not turn away girls that want to work there since from time to time there are really fugly girls there. These fugly girls quickly get the hint that they are no match for the girls that are there and this is why you see celebs there sometimes.

[WyattEarp]

And I'm a nuanced kind of guy. I understand very well about Brazil, and never made any representations ever about Scandallo being a good representation of the diverse population of Brazil. Is Scandallo under obligation to be that? And, who here can state specifically why it is what it is at Scandallo? I mean, do they have an overt or covert policy that says no dark-skinned girls allowed? How would somebody here know that? Or, are you saying well "it's Brazil wink, wink"? Anyway, I'm not going there (or anywhere in the world for that matter), looking for a good representation of the diversity of a country. I'm going to establishments with the kind of women that I want to fuck. And that's it. And if somebody else wants to fuck those same kind of women too and they have the money, then they should go there too. Why do people always have to make everything so complicated and hard? It's not that I don't have any social conscience either because I do. If I find out that an establishment engages in some kind of nefarious practice that I don't like, then I won't give them my business. There is one country in the world where I travel regularly where I have blacklisted a club. The country is Germany, and the club is Golden Time.

I think if you look back at my posts, I have not said Scandallo is up to any discriminatory practices. I don't even think the club has anything to do with the racial composite of the girls.

I just think there are local socioeconomic factors, supply & demand factors and even that global phenomenon of many men being attracted to blondes.

[The Cane]

This is a nuanced discussion. Brazil is a very racially diverse country. If you walk into an urban night club and you only see a few "dark" complected, then some forces are at work on either the supply and demand of the girls.

I don't think anyone would argue that the girls at Scandallo are a good representation of the overall Brazilian population. I actually said something other than overt racism was at work.

P.S.- I like white girls, black girls, mulatta girls and so on.

And I'm a nuanced kind of guy. I understand very well about Brazil, and never made any representations ever about Scandallo being a good representation of the diverse population of Brazil. Is Scandallo under obligation to be that? And, who here can state specifically why it is what it is at Scandallo? I mean, do they have an overt or covert policy that says no dark-skinned girls allowed? How would somebody here know that? Or, are you saying well "it's Brazil wink, wink"? Anyway, I'm not going there (or anywhere in the world for that matter), looking for a good representation of the diversity of a country. I'm going to establishments with the kind of women that I want to fuck. And that's it. And if somebody else wants to fuck those same kind of women too and they have the money, then they should go there too. Why do people always have to make everything so complicated and hard? It's not that I don't have any social conscience either because I do. If I find out that an establishment engages in some kind of nefarious practice that I don't like, then I won't give them my business. There is one country in the world where I travel regularly where I have blacklisted a club. The country is Germany, and the club is Golden Time.

[WyattEarp]

Why do you (and Rovnak) attribute the type of women you find in Scandallo to "racism"? A club doesn't have an abundance of the type of women you find attractive, and that's "racist"? I'm sorry, but that reasoning doesn't follow to me. I have seen some very dark girls in there each time I have gone, but admittedly only a few. But for me, that's not instantly some indication of racism.

This is a nuanced discussion. Brazil is a very racially diverse country. If you walk into an urban night club and you only see a few "dark" complected, then some forces are at work on either the supply and demand of the girls.

I don't think anyone would argue that the girls at Scandallo are a good representation of the overall Brazilian population. I actually said something other than overt racism was at work.

P.S.- I like white girls, black girls, mulatta girls and so on.

[The Cane]

You do make a valid point. The racism might not be that overt though. It might be the symptom of Brazilian socioeconomics. The "white chicks" likely have relatively better economic options. They might be pursued by middle class men in their civilian life. Perhaps it takes a venue like Scandallo and a higher payday to get these white girls to offer their services.

I love black and mulatta working girls, but they seemed easier to find in Brazil. If we lived in Brazil, maybe they would no longer be so special to some of us.

Why do you (and Rovnak) attribute the type of women you find in Scandallo to "racism"? A club doesn't have an abundance of the type of women you find attractive, and that's "racist"? I'm sorry, but that reasoning doesn't follow to me. I have seen some very dark girls in there each time I have gone, but admittedly only a few. But for me, that's not instantly some indication of racism.

[WyattEarp]

In scandalo you will find a dis proportionally high number of white chicks, its just the fact of Brazilian racism. I have never seen more than 5 mulatas out of 150 girls in Scandalo. It disappoints me when I do go to Scandalo, but in the larger scheme of things I benefit from it, because I find the ladies I like outside of Scandalo and much more affordably.

You do make a valid point. The racism might not be that overt though. It might be the symptom of Brazilian socioeconomics. The "white chicks" likely have relatively better economic options. They might be pursued by middle class men in their civilian life. Perhaps it takes a venue like Scandallo and a higher payday to get these white girls to offer their services.

I love black and mulatta working girls, but they seemed easier to find in Brazil. If we lived in Brazil, maybe they would no longer be so special to some of us.