German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Jmioffe]

Because viagra does nothing for libido. It purely acts to increase blood flow. You can be aroused and want to keep on fucking but not be able to keep erections after a couple of pops. Viagra does nothing unless you are psychologically aroused. In my 20's, doing 3-4 girls a day without viagra was no issue. In my early 30's, 2-3 was pushing it. Now, even though I see a girl and am turned on; physically, it's just not possible to fuck her properly if she is my 3rd or 4th of the day, nevermind if it's my 4th day in a roll doing 3-4 girls a day. Physical fitness only has a partial effect. I'm more fit than than 95% of the guys in the clubs and still take viagra to get in more sessions. I'm not flying thousands of miles to a club just to do one or two girls every other day.

You have the desire but your body isn't giving you the erection you need. After the Vitamin V, you obviously get erect, but do you wind up shooting blanks? Is there an orgasm?

[Mr Ho]

In Sharks I like to nap upstairs opposite to where the rooms are. There is a vantage point where I can see which girls are available.

Yeah, I second that! Even though Sharks is not my favorite club, I do love the upstairs area especially where the jacuzzi is on the corner, there is good spot to rest and also look down to floor from above, it is directly above main bar on the left, so got the perfect view! But never a fan of lighting on sharks! Good service club though!

[TankTank123]

Never try to sleep in the lounge chairs on the first floor at Mainhattan. The girls never leave you alone there. Best to go try to find a spot in the cinema area or some place away from the girls.

Best place for me in Mainhatten was the first deck chair to the left just after going past the entrance to the jacuzzi section. Slept there many times without geing disturbed once.

[Mr Ho]

We all have our personal preferences.

As for orgasms without productive ejaculation, if you feel as if it's unnatural, take it up with God as he designed it that way. But I'll tell you what's not natural, fucking 3-4 girls per day to orgasm for multiple days in a row.

Again, viagra / other performance enhancers and libido / desire have nothing to do with each other. All of the desire in the world does not matter if your cellular signaling remain in the refractory period. Even testosterone levels do not have a clear or direct role in maintaining erections, unless they are pathologically low. Physical fitness and general health only has supplementary effects unless your health is so poor that your circulation is compromised.

I think a lot of your side of the argument comes from a place of ego and pride, which comes at the cost of a good time as I've had plenty of wonderful third and fourth rooms which would not have been possible without the help of modern medicine.

Exactly! When I was in my late 20's when I first discover FKK in 2009, I could do 5 rooms to max 7 rooms I have done before with cum and orgasm for each room, but when I hit about 35, I began to have problem finishing after 3rd room that I have to ejaculate with girls and finish with CIM etc. I was and am honest about it, but there always are few posters who claim many things that are too unnatural, but we play along with their claim with our adult attitude!

However, now that I am in my 40's that cumming 3 times or max 4 times in short period of time is my max (I begin first session around 8 pm in most of club as that is when stunner often walk in for most clubs and I only go with stunner), so I have about 4 hours in FKK to cum 3 or 4 times till I go back to hotel around bit later than midnight!

Having said that, this is where modern medicine comes in! If I want to fuck like I used to in my late 20's in FKK to early 30's doing more than 4 rooms with each with cum and orgasm without jerking off, I need these medicine to stay strong, so for me, it worked and helped me greatly and enhance my enjoyment in FKK! As I get older, I may not even able to do more than once without these medicine with very minor or for me no side effect, so I am grateful for these medicine to exist and thankfully side effect is almost none!

I enjoy doing unnatural thing like fucking different stunners more than 4 of them or many as I can find if line up is lucky and I like to not to worry about age related matter! I still long for the days I could do 7 rooms with cum no problem, but now that it is not biological reality for me, after 3rd room, I begin taking cialis! Or other medicine is on my list to try out like levitra etc.

I do sport daily and I am fit and eat healthy in Tokyo, but hey age is age and I am just being honest here and I am grateful for these amazing harmless medicine with almost no side effect and hey! As for cialis, there are many evidence that it actually is very good for your arteries as it improve your blood circulation and for me cialis also helps me for my muscle tension on shoulder and neck! It somehow make it better when I have muscle tension due to desk work etc! So it has nice bi-productive effect than just erection.

I am for using support for these modern medicine and soon or later as we get older, we going to need it and be thankful to it! I am just being honest here! I am in my 40's now and I hope I remain as I am now, but if not, I got medicine world and soon or later even better medicine will come out!

For me it is not libido etc, it is just that after 3rd room, I need medicine most of time to cum, if not it get soft while fucking or I need like one hour of sex to finally cum, and after third room, one hour full action session can be hard LOL! Even though I am up for it libido wise LOL! I am hentai fucker, so for libido no problem, I need booster for biology side LOL!

Even at age 70, I be a Robo Monger like a Robo cop LOL! Or Terminator Monger version LOL! Any help I can get my hand on, I will use it!

[Mr Ho]

Never try to sleep in the lounge chairs on the first floor at Mainhattan. The girls never leave you alone there. Best to go try to find a spot in the cinema area or some place away from the girls. The last time I was at Oase, I found that they had set up a new upstairs area with a TV and lounge chairs. It was great for getting away when you wanted to. Wanting to get away from many pretty, naked girls who say that want to "fuck with" you. Imagine that LOL!

Once I was sick, but still went to Palace, and took a place near swimming pool where the computer with internet was, and lay quietly in bed in dark corner there where you are hard to be seen, but! Girls still found me and sit by bed and beginning kissing you on the face or ear and whisper something to my ear or tell me something stupid like what are you doing? I mean what does it look like, resting! LOL I wonder this sales they do of swirling around club and talk to mongers who are clearly resting away somewhere in hidden corner works? I mean we station ourselves in far from main bar and lay in bed because we want to rest right? They even wakes you up and ask you to room! And these sales ladies are 99% not pretty ones LOL! This is what I call Romanian nightmares or German nightmares or whatever LOL!

[Mr Ho]

Fortunately not my experience in NRW, no mask when sitting chatting very close face to face with girls and of course, fortunately not in room, I would never go for a room with mask, just impossible for me to have sex facing a mask. Among gossiping, bullshits and lies, I enjoy to make cum attractive girls, not fake porn moanings, but don't touch me now, seeing their round eyes, sometimes chicken skin, hard dark nipples, hard growing clit and their flowing liquid, because at that moment, real reactions and they are woman, when I really don't need a prostitute tells me she loves me, it was always only problems. Record is I worked really hard needing more than 1 hour on German Lucifer at Gold on September 2019. I remember Laura at Velbert telling me when I was to give up after nearly 30 mn, You started, now You finish me. 45 mn, didn't feel my tongue, could hardly speak. Some returning asking for, one with a BF at GT ex Sharks. Like I learned with my real life girlfriends. In real life, if you are not able to give orgasms to women, then you are boring for sex and they have headache, when they come to ask when they have pleasure.

It is alarming how Europe forgot or more abandon the restraint of traveling and just travel once the summer holiday season came, and when infection rates are rising once again, people once again moan about infection rate and death. The reason is them who is doing this because they just cannot sit at home and be responsible for others lives. I think it is wise to be more self responsible concerning the situation we are in now and stay away from clouded place for well being of society and most importantly to avoid death and doing this is basically leading to killing people.

This above is accurate observation and the reason for rapid spread in certain part of Europe is people not willing to cooperate to simple rule of staying home as much as they can and also to wear mask once in enclosed space, and when infection rate goes up and people begin to die, they moan, but they are the one who is causing this with their action of moving around doing what they feel like doing not caring about others.

[Mursenary]

Sorry but having a orgasm without coming seems not very natural for a man at least for me. I am also 60+, taking 0 medicine, and I don't understand why I need to take some to having sex with a prostitute. When my libido is too low, I go buy a new classic car or repair 1 of mine, or go walking in the mountain, mountain bike. But for sure not visiting a FKK. I never go with friends, this is my personal things I am sharing it with nobody.

We all have our personal preferences.

As for orgasms without productive ejaculation, if you feel as if it's unnatural, take it up with God as he designed it that way. But I'll tell you what's not natural, fucking 3-4 girls per day to orgasm for multiple days in a row.

Again, viagra / other performance enhancers and libido / desire have nothing to do with each other. All of the desire in the world does not matter if your cellular signaling remain in the refractory period. Even testosterone levels do not have a clear or direct role in maintaining erections, unless they are pathologically low. Physical fitness and general health only has supplementary effects unless your health is so poor that your circulation is compromised.

I think a lot of your side of the argument comes from a place of ego and pride, which comes at the cost of a good time as I've had plenty of wonderful third and fourth rooms which would not have been possible without the help of modern medicine.

[The Cane]

In Sharks I like to nap upstairs opposite to where the rooms are. There is a vantage point where I can see which girls are available.

Never try to sleep in the lounge chairs on the first floor at Mainhattan. The girls never leave you alone there. Best to go try to find a spot in the cinema area or some place away from the girls. The last time I was at Oase, I found that they had set up a new upstairs area with a TV and lounge chairs. It was great for getting away when you wanted to. Wanting to get away from many pretty, naked girls who say that want to "fuck with" you. Imagine that LOL!

[Turgid]

Depends on the club. In Sharks, back side near the Thai masseuse. In Oase, in the relax area. In Globe, near the old pool. In some clubs in Kino. Essentially anywhere I feel comfortable. Almost all clubs are ok for a customer to nap on any couch in any part of the club, except for inside a sex room unless you are with a girl. Funny I even took naps with some girls, though those were quite expensive naps LOL.

In Sharks I like to nap upstairs opposite to where the rooms are. There is a vantage point where I can see which girls are available.

[Sirioja]

Fortunately not my experience in NRW, no mask when sitting chatting very close face to face with girls and of course, fortunately not in room, I would never go for a room with mask, just impossible for me to have sex facing a mask. Among gossiping, bullshits and lies, I enjoy to make cum attractive girls, not fake porn moanings, but don't touch me now, seeing their round eyes, sometimes chicken skin, hard dark nipples, hard growing clit and their flowing liquid, because at that moment, real reactions and they are woman, when I really don't need a prostitute tells me she loves me, it was always only problems. Record is I worked really hard needing more than 1 hour on German Lucifer at Gold on September 2019. I remember Laura at Velbert telling me when I was to give up after nearly 30 mn, You started, now You finish me. 45 mn, didn't feel my tongue, could hardly speak. Some returning asking for, one with a BF at GT ex Sharks. Like I learned with my real life girlfriends. In real life, if you are not able to give orgasms to women, then you are boring for sex and they have headache, when they come to ask when they have pleasure.

[Bfsie]

You can fuck her brain out and make her multiple orgasm, but they do nothing in her affection department. So don't try to make WGs have orgasm with the illusion that she would start to like you because of orgasm. It doesn't work like that. You pay for session and why you should work hard for her to have orgasm unless you enjoy to see WGs getting orgasm.

One clarification: Above paragraph in my previous post was not addressed to Pessimist specifically. It was a part of my post to any readers here.

[Bfsie]

Just let you guys know in case you are not sure that both mongers and WGs in the rooms in NRW clubs legally require wearing masks all the time, even during sex.

But the guy who is marrying these FKK girls is getting the sex for free while you paid for it haha.

Not to mention he is probably stealing all her money and her cars.

And some of the girls may not be 35. Could be a 25 year old FKK girl, in which case he fucks at home for free with no condom and she comes to the club, some dumber naive Asian dude pays her 300 for half hour for the privilege of eating her unwashed pussy in which her BF had just cum plus 2 minutes of anal and 3 minutes of lesbo with another girl, DFK thrown in for 30 sec. And the lover boy is laughing at these guys while he drives a BMW paid for by the club visitors.

I guess this is the food chain of fuck clubs.

+1 and well said except that he doesn't have to marry his girl. Loverboy is at the top of food chain in this business and society in general. From my experience the ultimate test of how much affection a girl (a WG in this case) has towards a guy is generally whether she is willing to do BBFS (sex without condom) with this guy if she normally doesn't do BBFS.

You can fuck her brain out and make her multiple orgasm, but they do nothing in her affection department. So don't try to make WGs have orgasm with the illusion that she would start to like you because of orgasm. It doesn't work like that. You pay for session and why you should work hard for her to have orgasm unless you enjoy to see WGs getting orgasm.

What are your tricks for increasing libido? Does anything really works aside from external testosterone? The only thing that makes significant difference in my case is zinc. The rest is all marginal.

Also, do you guys have any tricks for shortening refractory period? I understand physical conditioning matters a lot but I also think there is a decent genetic component. Still, curious about your ways to shorten it.

Tia.

Take Maca supplement. It works for me.

[ExpatLover]

Sorry but having a orgasm without coming seems not very natural for a man at least for me. I am also 60+, taking 0 medicine, and I don't understand why I need to take some to having sex with a prostitute. When my libido is too low, I go buy a new classic car or repair 1 of mine, or go walking in the mountain, mountain bike. But for sure not visiting a FKK. I never go with friends, this is my personal things I am sharing it with nobody.

[Akibono]

Well, from my own experience, hitting the gym the last 3 days before an FKK multi day run is a bad idea. 4 or even 5 days in advance is the last time I go full out exhausting myself in the gym. And I feel this strategy helps in adding in some extra sessions. I look less pumped up for the girls, but have more juice ready in the pouch.

I can easily do 4 rooms 5 days in a row if the girls are hot enough. But usually only do 3. Or even sometimes just 2 on a 4-5 day run the past 2 years now. But that is not because I am not able to cum. Because I do cum on 95% of my rooms unless I just want to get done with the room and hit another one immediately after, knowing she is about to leave the club for the night soon. The reason why I don't do 4 rooms a day now in my mid 30's (except on rare occasions) is first because the first 2 or 3 rooms a day is just more sensitive. And secondly, and also more importantly is that I am getting retardedly picky when it comes to girls. And then if I do find a girl who turns me on massively one day, she might only work 6 hours, or be busy most of the day. And then the day after, after having a long nap I may have totally different preferences. Like suddenly wanting a slim blonde instead of that black haired girl with the hot bum I did the day before. Totally polygamous. As if eating pasta two days in a row is not my thing.

And finally there is also a layer of me knowing that there will be more girls the day after. So maybe, just maybe some 9 or 10 girl may suddenly appear out of the blue. In which case I need to be packed and ready!

This brings up a big issue. How do you schedule the three girls so you have your optimum session at the right time. It is a real shame when you have done your sessions only to see that rare super hot beauty become available. Do you go for it when you might not be able to perform or just call it a day hoping she will be back tomorrow. I remember when the girls were hotter, but they were just not very available due to demand. I go for fewer girls with longer sessions. The girls have less stress and you have a better time. Nothing like banging a girl, taking a break and doing it again and again. My favorite saying by a particularly horny girl after we have fucked a long time is: Honey, I want to clean up, but as soon as you are ready, I want to do it again.

[Mr Ho]

Well, from my own experience, hitting the gym the last 3 days before an FKK multi day run is a bad idea. 4 or even 5 days in advance is the last time I go full out exhausting myself in the gym. And I feel this strategy helps in adding in some extra sessions. I look less pumped up for the girls, but have more juice ready in the pouch.

I can easily do 4 rooms 5 days in a row if the girls are hot enough. But usually only do 3. Or even sometimes just 2 on a 4-5 day run the past 2 years now. But that is not because I am not able to cum. Because I do cum on 95% of my rooms unless I just want to get done with the room and hit another one immediately after, knowing she is about to leave the club for the night soon. The reason why I don't do 4 rooms a day now in my mid 30's (except on rare occasions) is first because the first 2 or 3 rooms a day is just more sensitive. And secondly, and also more importantly is that I am getting retardedly picky when it comes to girls. And then if I do find a girl who turns me on massively one day, she might only work 6 hours, or be busy most of the day. And then the day after, after having a long nap I may have totally different preferences. Like suddenly wanting a slim blonde instead of that black haired girl with the hot bum I did the day before. Totally polygamous. As if eating pasta two days in a row is not my thing.

And finally there is also a layer of me knowing that there will be more girls the day after. So maybe, just maybe some 9 or 10 girl may suddenly appear out of the blue. In which case I need to be packed and ready!

Looking clean can help, but girls cares more about how pumped up your wallet is, not the muscle LOL.

For me, work out helps a lot during even FKK tour because during the trip I do nothing, but get up, eat, walk / commute to FKK, sit around for hours to find stunner, fuck good, repeat etc, so my motivation can get very low as it becomes routine, but happy routine that I have been doing it for years LOL over 10 years now for FKK LOL! So little boost to my system can help to get circulation going both physically and mentally!

But of course there are cialis etc as quick easier booster!