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[ExpatLover]

I don't get this.

How the hell can I be doing something illegal if I rent a flat to two girls that I meet with their jeans and sport shoes but at night they open wide their legs? How can I know this from before if the renting contract doesn't say that they work as prostitutes? If they say this OK I agree but, if they don't say the truth about their profession?

You will never rent a flat to somebody without checking their regular incomes to be sure to get paid every month, prostitutes and pimps have no salary bill, company name.

[Pistons]

A problem with the renting laws in relation to p6 is that it contributes to pimping networks. Basically creating a stronger barrier for the solo entrepreneur. While the pimp networks always finds a way around these barriers.

The best way to tackle pimping would be to loosen up on these petty laws. Fully legalizing p6. Move everything into state owned brothels, and use block chain based payment systems to track where the money ends up.

[Pistons]

I don't get this.

How the hell can I be doing something illegal if I rent a flat to two girls that I meet with their jeans and sport shoes but at night they open wide their legs? How can I know this from before if the renting contract doesn't say that they work as prostitutes? If they say this OK I agree but, if they don't say the truth about their profession?

A lot of thing in relation to sex regulations and laws doesn't make any sense. This is just one of them. But as it is now, stupid as it may seem, it is still defined as pimping. Even if you don't know. But then it does come down to how the judge want to uphold the strictness of the law. Given it even gets that far.

[Pistons]

It surely takes some investigations to know for sure who is pimped or not. And who is with a loverboy they may actually love. So not considering them as pimps at all. Then the third category is single girls.

The hardest part is perhaps to define the first two categories. Who has a boyfriend they really love, and who is subject to something else. Because this line can sometimes be a fine line too.

HB and others (a bartenders I have talked to) claims 90% of the girls are in the first two categories. And only 10% run solo. Personally I think this is a standard exaggeration. But 70-80% sure. And I have my ways of making a census that I won't tell here.

But some of the girls who has a boyfriend, actually keeps him back home in Romania or Bulgaria. But they tend to communicate on snapchat or some web 2.0 thing all the time. And in these cases, they are hardly pimped given the long distance between them. They are merely workers abroad.

And then you have the pimps you can actually sociallize with you inside the FKK's, and who tells you everything. And I mean everything. But then it can also be wishful thinking on their behalf. Many guys want to be their pimps. And then the girls laugh about it. As if they were.

So it is hard to know for sure. Same way it is hard for cops or anyone to catch people just from rumors alone.

Most of what we do in here is assume.

[Mr Ho]

Fortunately all Romanians are not pimped, but my ass still burn me when I think about I gave 2000 per month for months to a pimped one who claimed to be high class. Many Germans are Turkish or Albanian pimped and can read on them. When they change, they have to try to delete with laser or cover with another tattoo. About part timer, problem in clubs now is they have to be registered and touristic visa don't work anymore to tour like Russian escorts in Paris. Anyway, even more and more rare, even YY is a big loss about part timer, locals seemed very happy to tell me I drove from France for nothing and it will stay closed for at least 1 year, but they didn't know the free bird all over Germany, this guy go everywhere as say girls, can still sometimes feel wow, seeing a new beauty, and I was happy about this on last weeks.

Romanians are not pimped? I always smell some kind of more than lover boys behind Romanian scene because look, there simply are so many Romanians that you can say FKK industry is supported by Romanians, so I assume there must be a organization of some kind all over Romania to recruit girl and sending them to FKK, I mean I cannot believe they found FKK online and took their limited money to come all the way to German FKK to knock on the door to work, I do thins there are some organized platform who help them and support them to work in FKK, I mean not all prostitute were tutes, they once were normal girls with limited money not knowing what to do.

Yeah these tattoo thing with guys name is funny, try asking them, they always say it is my brothers name about their tattoo.

[Fucker2019]

Fact of the matter is, none of us know what drove the girl to be there in the room with you. All that matters is, she is there. Whether a pimp did her papers, provided some initial funding, forced her to be there against her will, just bought her bus ticket. None of these matter.

For some girls, it is her cousin who is already in the club that pushes to come on board first. I guess that makes the cousin to be the pimp. Of course the pimp happens to be another FKK girl.

No, these are simple concepts. A freelancer operates as a one person business. A pimped sex worker operates as a two person business. Connotations aside, this is the simple difference that one need not be a radical feminist to understand. You just have to be able to count on one hand.

It's always amusing when people confuse describing an act with justifying an act.

"None of us knows how the bank gets their money. In truth it doesn't matter. My interaction with the bank is that I rob it. End of matter".

The purpose of this example *is not* to equate robbing a bank with seeing pimped sex workers. So don't bother saying that.

The purpose of this example is to show how describing an act does not in itself justify an act.

[Neurosynth]

What is a freelancer and who is pimped? These are antiquated, quaint notions promoted by radical feminists and their brainwashed apologists.
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No, these are simple concepts. A freelancer operates as a one person business. A pimped sex worker operates as a two person business. Connotations aside, this is the simple difference that one need not be a radical feminist to understand. You just have to be able to count on one hand.

. . . Fact of the matter is, none of us here know the what's going on behind the scenes with most of these girls. And in truth, it does not matter. My interaction with the girl is limited to the room, the suck and fuck, and money paid for good service. End of the matter.

It's always amusing when people confuse describing an act with justifying an act.

"None of us knows how the bank gets their money. In truth it doesn't matter. My interaction with the bank is that I rob it. End of matter".

The purpose of this example *is not* to equate robbing a bank with seeing pimped sex workers. So don't bother saying that.

The purpose of this example is to show how describing an act does not in itself justify an act.

[Member #4636]

For French law and pretty sure same in Germany, even you don't know they prostitute in your flat, but you are pimping. Only Romanian or Bulgarian or Albanian or Turkish pimps are BF as say pimped girls, even some German girls.

I don't get this.

How the hell can I be doing something illegal if I rent a flat to two girls that I meet with their jeans and sport shoes but at night they open wide their legs? How can I know this from before if the renting contract doesn't say that they work as prostitutes? If they say this OK I agree but, if they don't say the truth about their profession?

[Sirioja]

Well at least, these pimps are the supplier that we demand side of mongers need to fulfill our lust in FKK, so it is give and take relationship with them and I must say what they take from us are 50 euro per 30 min with mild upsell which is not too bad, so it balances out like a fair enough food chain.

Without pimp we won't exist in FKK and without us pimps won't exist in FKK and money we give in exchange for girls they supply are fair enough, so it is so far so good.

Fortunately all Romanians are not pimped, but my ass still burn me when I think about I gave 2000 per month for months to a pimped one who claimed to be high class. Many Germans are Turkish or Albanian pimped and can read on them. When they change, they have to try to delete with laser or cover with another tattoo. About part timer, problem in clubs now is they have to be registered and touristic visa don't work anymore to tour like Russian escorts in Paris. Anyway, even more and more rare, even YY is a big loss about part timer, locals seemed very happy to tell me I drove from France for nothing and it will stay closed for at least 1 year, but they didn't know the free bird all over Germany, this guy go everywhere as say girls, can still sometimes feel wow, seeing a new beauty, and I was happy about this on last weeks.

[Fucker2019]

Salaam Ho-san. I am known for disagreeing with this idea.

If the pimps weren't stuffing the FKKs with their drones, there would be more room for independent freelancers, the true quality.

The aim of middlemen everywhere is to "optimize" by providing the lowest quality they can get away with at the highest price they can get away with, all while taking the biggest possible share of the money from the person actually doing the work.

And there is no way a girl can show you real affection while she is in the thrall of her loverboy.

[Deleted by Admin] What is a freelancer and who is pimped? These are antiquated, quaint notions promoted by radical feminists and their brainwashed apologists.

Does the freelancer give herself to you wholeheartedly and does the pimped girl act like she is being forced upon?

All that I care is, in the room does she suck good, take the dick properly without complaining or arching her back, and does she kiss well and suck my balls? I have never seen any correlation between those, whether the girl is a free lander or pimped.

And can you walk into a big club like Sharks or Oase with the girls are lined up wall to wall, then able to tell "yup, this one is free lancing, yeah this one here is pimped?" A blindfold Pepsi test, so to speak?

And there is zero proof that somehow the pimps were away, that there would be quality free lancers. Name one place where that is true. And present your proof that somehow the ones you think are free lancers are indeed free, with no pimps in the background.

Fact of the matter is, none of us here know the what's going on behind the scenes with most of these girls. And in truth, it does not matter. My interaction with the girl is limited to the room, the suck and fuck, and money paid for good service. End of the matter.

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[Mr Ho]

Salaam Ho-san. I am known for disagreeing with this idea.

If the pimps weren't stuffing the FKKs with their drones, there would be more room for independent freelancers, the true quality.

The aim of middlemen everywhere is to "optimize" by providing the lowest quality they can get away with at the highest price they can get away with, all while taking the biggest possible share of the money from the person actually doing the work.

And there is no way a girl can show you real affection while she is in the thrall of her loverboy.

Yes, freelance walk in girls are best for my taste also, especially German ones who are rare and with my experience we mostly find them in summer low season with my experience.

Pimps mostly supply Romanian girls and Bulgarians, then some German come with pimps who ride bike and on top of that we got freelance girls who tend to look best. So we got varieties here with heavy concentration of Romanians in FKK I think due to there must be some kind of pimp platform in Romania and in Germany, I think it is more than pimp or pimps, but organization behind who built plat form or prostitute silk road from Romania to Germany. FKK Silk Road LOL!

I do wish more freelance girls yes, but many of them do other jobs beside FKK or escort, so if we do not have pimps maybe there will be many occasion FKK are empty? So like in real world we need mass production prostitutes that are Romanians and we need some hand made rare freelance girls who are more rare bleed.

And even mass production prostitute sent and made by pimps can be good looking once every. Few years LOL!

But yes, more freelance beauty is wanted, especially German ones. Blonde ones!

[Mr Ho]

You make good points. It does not make sense to be bashing the so called pimps when mongers are the only market for the work done by these pimps. Didn't we learn that people in glass houses should not be hurling boulders at other people?

Let say it is mixed feeling between us mongers and pimps, but I tend to show gratitude to suppliers and once in blue moon they do supply us with good girl like once every few years LOL.

Freelance walk in girls are best though, but we tend to find them rarely and mostly in summer low season with my experience.

[ExpatLover]

Well at least, these pimps are the supplier that we demand side of mongers need to fulfill our lust in FKK, so it is give and take relationship with them and I must say what they take from us are 50 euro per 30 min with mild upsell which is not too bad, so it balances out like a fair enough food chain.

Without pimp we won't exist in FKK and without us pimps won't exist in FKK and money we give in exchange for girls they supply are fair enough, so it is so far so good.

On a moral point of view obviously I can't agree one world, they can close all the FKK, I really don t care, after 15 years of visits I understood so many things about the prostitution business mainly in Germany, that for 1 year I concentrate my energy and money on real German amateur escort, who are sometimes not 100% shaved or a sweating a bit when they come directly from the Uni but at least they are not those over washed and over fucked girls from the FKK.

[Polyamorist]

Well at least, these pimps are the supplier that we demand side of mongers need to fulfill our lust in FKK, so it is give and take relationship with them and I must say what they take from us are 50 euro per 30 min with mild upsell which is not too bad, so it balances out like a fair enough food chain.

Without pimp we won't exist in FKK and without us pimps won't exist in FKK and money we give in exchange for girls they supply are fair enough, so it is so far so good.

Salaam Ho-san. I am known for disagreeing with this idea.

If the pimps weren't stuffing the FKKs with their drones, there would be more room for independent freelancers, the true quality.

The aim of middlemen everywhere is to "optimize" by providing the lowest quality they can get away with at the highest price they can get away with, all while taking the biggest possible share of the money from the person actually doing the work.

And there is no way a girl can show you real affection while she is in the thrall of her loverboy.

[Fucker2019]

You make good points. It does not make sense to be bashing the so called pimps when mongers are the only market for the work done by these pimps. Didn't we learn that people in glass houses should not be hurling boulders at other people?

Well at least, these pimps are the supplier that we demand side of mongers need to fulfill our lust in FKK, so it is give and take relationship with them and I must say what they take from us are 50 euro per 30 min with mild upsell which is not too bad, so it balances out like a fair enough food chain.

Without pimp we won't exist in FKK and without us pimps won't exist in FKK and money we give in exchange for girls they supply are fair enough, so it is so far so good.