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  1. #678
    Quote Originally Posted by NakedGunz  [View Original Post]
    Fuck! Circa 1967? "Me So Horny!" I once worked with a guy who said in the sixties when he arrive Pattaya, there was only jungle there beyond Beach Rd.
    Then the Allied Americans came for R&R and turned Pattaya what it is today. God Bless America!. Sorta.

  2. #677
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Before 2012 or so, regular Thai girls I was meeting (mostly online) were great -- very easy to be with, generally pretty, not too self-confident or demanding, very easy to be with. Most were happy to jump into bed with me on the first date, the others at most date 3-4 if they tried to prove they really were good girls.

    This seems to no longer be the case, to the point that I stopped trawling Tinder, ThaiFriendly and such. With enough time and effort, it's still not especially hard to line up dates and eventually shag someone. However, average quality is down, attitude is worse and they seem to expect more than before, so it's just not pleasant, easy, nor worthwhile anymore. For a Farang, showing up used to be enough, and now we have to work to impress them (on their terms), which I don't care to do. There's just too many misses and frustrations (either the girl is not that great, or the hookup doesn't happen), that paying a hooker is just better value given the total time spent.

    Meanwhile, most other Westerners seem to think dating Thai girls online is still the most amazing and easiest thing ever (sure it is compared to UK or the US Midwest, especially for an over-30 guy). For some time, I though I was just getting too jaded or too old to enjoy that game. Thank you for sharing your experience and dispelling that notion.

    Sorry for getting way off topic for this thread.
    You are spot on. Yes, I agree, 5 plus years ago the culture was very different. Events since 2014 has seen a very conservative vein appear with Thais. 5 years ago if you walked on a uni campus you would see short skirts and tight shirts; no more. Gals were far more overt about their sexuality. But the current climate has ushered in a period of extreme modesty. Just yesterday I read about a Thai gal who has been posting pictures of herself flashing her underwear and she is being ripped apart by Thais on social media sites. And these are not old people; this is the attitude of the youth. Sad to see this as just a few years back it seemed that Thai women were finally starting to embrace their sexuality and flaunt it. That's over for the present time. I am afraid the current generation will continue to be very conservative. It is almost as if Thai gals now look to exhibit an air of frigidity; as if sex is beneath them, and something only the poor people do. This has even extended to the P4 P gals who are even less likely to engage in or actually let themselves enjoy any kink.
    Date a regular gal here now? No way. But I know lots of young dudes who do. And they are absolutely nutless.

  3. #676
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    And the regular non-P4 P gals here have attitude over the moon... A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table. That's over.
    Before 2012 or so, regular Thai girls I was meeting (mostly online) were great -- very easy to be with, generally pretty, not too self-confident or demanding, very easy to be with. Most were happy to jump into bed with me on the first date, the others at most date 3-4 if they tried to prove they really were good girls.

    This seems to no longer be the case, to the point that I stopped trawling Tinder, ThaiFriendly and such. With enough time and effort, it's still not especially hard to line up dates and eventually shag someone. However, average quality is down, attitude is worse and they seem to expect more than before, so it's just not pleasant, easy, nor worthwhile anymore. For a Farang, showing up used to be enough, and now we have to work to impress them (on their terms), which I don't care to do. There's just too many misses and frustrations (either the girl is not that great, or the hookup doesn't happen), that paying a hooker is just better value given the total time spent.

    Meanwhile, most other Westerners seem to think dating Thai girls online is still the most amazing and easiest thing ever (sure it is compared to UK or the US Midwest, especially for an over-30 guy). For some time, I though I was just getting too jaded or too old to enjoy that game. Thank you for sharing your experience and dispelling that notion.

    Sorry for getting way off topic for this thread.

  4. #675
    "A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table."

    Yes what wonderful memories. And your point about comfort food for the fatties is very accurate. I cannot believe the body shape of the Thai ladies these days. Thai women are not known for keeping fit and attending gym. It appears once they hit 23 they thicken out and adopt a linebacker type build.

    I am sure it was never like 20 years ago?

    I was recently in Ubon Ratchatani and saw many beautiful looking girls, however the fatties were also thick on the ground albeit nice looking faces.

    Sugar really is an amazing product and the Thai's can't get enough of the stuff.

  5. #674
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table. That's over.
    Fuck! Circa 1967? "Me So Horny!" I once worked with a guy who said in the sixties when he arrive Pattaya, there was only jungle there beyond Beach Rd.

  6. #673
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    So true. To make things worse, over the last few years, average-looking local lasses also blow the working girls out of the water as well, with very few exceptions. It's a double-blowout when it comes to looks. We're more or less scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

    Fortunately, as you said, Thailand has plenty of other redeeming qualities.
    Yep, the P4 P gals, especially the ones that are working the Sukhumvit area are not great looking. Bottom of the barrel. There are some very pretty gals on the dek sideline sites, geared toward locals, but most have a list of rules a mile long, and would just not be of interest to me. And the regular non-P4 P gals here have attitude over the moon. You seem them dragging their local boyfriends around by the short and curlies. Combined with their ridiculous monetary expectations, they are becoming almost every bit as intolerable as Western women, and the local lasses here are also putting on weight due to constant comfort eating at dessert shops where they drown their sorrows because they have not found the multi-millionaire that is going to spend it all on them. A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table. That's over.

  7. #672
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Funny, most of the gals I find really attractive in BKK are the Korean and Chinese tourist gals. They just blow the local lasses out of the water.
    So true. To make things worse, over the last few years, average-looking local lasses also blow the working girls out of the water as well, with very few exceptions. It's a double-blowout when it comes to looks. We're more or less scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

    Fortunately, as you said, Thailand has plenty of other redeeming qualities.

  8. #671
    Quote Originally Posted by Eszpresszo  [View Original Post]
    I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.
    Is there a Thai and Malaysian community near you in Texas so you can do a more logical apples-to-apples comparison between various local Asians? You might be observing the same phenomenon I observed while living in Southern California near Thai, Philippno and Vietnamese communities while I was also traveling to monger in each of those countries.

    Don't know if I could explain why, but the girls who remained in their home country were always more beautiful than the ones who were brought to the USA by their families, fiances or managed to move there on their own. Not that it was some weird optical illusion. The ones who lived in their home country were definitely more beautiful.

    Moreover, the most beautiful ones I met in each of those home countries had never been to the USA while less attractive ones often had a story about visiting the USA at least once with an aunt, parent or boyfriend. I had my own theories for why this might be so. But nothing that fully explained this phenomenon of the better looking girls remaining in their home countries while the less attractives ones (even their less atteactive whole families) somehow and for some reason found their way to the USA.

  9. #670
    Quote Originally Posted by Eszpresszo  [View Original Post]
    I think it would obvious to anyone who actually visited Thailand, that Thai people don't all have the same skin tone. Fairer skin? I've seen some lighter Thai girls and some who were caramel colored. And that was in my first hours in the country. I would think someone who purports to be omnipresent in BKK, would have noticed that.

    Similarly, I have observed that Vietnamese girls do have a range of skin tones, as well. I was approached by one at ACE last March who was just plain white, and didn't look Asian. If she said she was Greek, I would have believed her. But she was a anomaly. So, to make a generalization like really makes me wonder what is your actual experience with these girls? I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.

    However, if you believe that Vietnamese girls are so great, then why aren't you doing trip reports from Vietnam? Why are you perpetually posting on the Thailand forums? I noticed that you just made a post on a Bangkok soapie thread. Now if you can afford a visit to a soapie, you can afford a ticket to HCMC. I just looked at Skyscanner, and you can get a flight to SGN tomorrow for as low as $56 USD. So what's keeping you from mongering in Vietnam if you like their women so much? Why are you in Thailand if you prefer Vietnamese girls? Your story doesn't make sense.
    Dude, I've lived here for over 18 years. Why Thailand at that point? Did not think the gals were all that pretty then, or all that skilled. It was volume and cost. An veritable endless supply for 500-1k Baht (12.50 - 25 USD at the time). Also because you could live a 5 star lifestyle on a 3 star budget. Used to get the JW Marriott buffet for 12.50 USD with their discount card. Traveling was cheap from BKK as well and back before the Chinese were able to travel, uncrowded and very easy.

    Believe me, at this point I am not here for the Thai gals; not in the least. That ship sailed a long time ago. Paying way more for the same so so service? No thanks. My social circle is here, I still think BKK is an amazing eating town, it is still sort of cheap compared with other places, and I have many other things that I do to occupy my time. But will I live the rest of my life here? Even 5 years ago that would have been a resounding yes. Now, not so sure. I will check out South America and probably Portugal and some other places in Europe.

    Why didn't I move to VN in 99 when I came to SE Asia? Well, it was a different place then, as was Cambo, which is where you went for Viet gals then. But yes, I have been to the 'Nam. Viets are great in the sack, but I wouldn't want to have one as a GF. Way to intense and mercenary. Make Thai gals look like Hello Kitty. BTW, my experience with Koreans is the same. Awesome lovers; would never want one as a companion. Thai gals are easy going companions. If she's not, then you've done something wrong.

    I find Viets overall better looking than Thais. They tend to have more Chinese features, and well, to put it bluntly, I am just not attracted to the Isaan look in the least. I like Northern, Central, and Southern Thai gals, but they are few and far between in the P4 P scene. Some of the gals from the NE provinces bordering Laos like Nakhon Pathom have some lookers due to the Lao and Viet blood that is mixed in, but the gals from the provinces bordering Cambo do nothing for me. And neither do Cambo gals to tell you the truth.

    I too am from the Metroplex. Before I moved to Asia, hell, before I even came to Asia I would drool over the Viet gals at my favorite pho places and Asian grocery stores in the East Ft Worth and Haltom City area.

    Funny, most of the gals I find really attractive in BKK are the Korean and Chinese tourist gals. They just blow the local lasses out of the water.

  10. #669
    Quote Originally Posted by Eszpresszo  [View Original Post]
    I think it would obvious to anyone who actually visited Thailand, that Thai people don't all have the same skin tone. Fairer skin? I've seen some lighter Thai girls and some who were caramel colored. And that was in my first hours in the country. I would think someone who purports to be omnipresent in BKK, would have noticed that.

    Similarly, I have observed that Vietnamese girls do have a range of skin tones, as well. I was approached by one at ACE last March who was just plain white, and didn't look Asian. If she said she was Greek, I would have believed her. But she was a anomaly. So, to make a generalization like really makes me wonder what is your actual experience with these girls? I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.

    However, if you believe that Vietnamese girls are so great, then why aren't you doing trip reports from Vietnam? Why are you perpetually posting on the Thailand forums? I noticed that you just made a post on a Bangkok soapie thread. Now if you can afford a visit to a soapie, you can afford a ticket to HCMC. I just looked at Skyscanner, and you can get a flight to SGN tomorrow for as low as $56 USD. So what's keeping you from mongering in Vietnam if you like their women so much? Why are you in Thailand if you prefer Vietnamese girls? Your story doesn't make sense.
    I'm unclear as to why you are pressing the issue about why Goats is in Thailand. Him and myself like Vietnamese girls. I personally have never been to Vietnam yet and maybe he hasn't either. What does that have to do with anything? I apologize mate but I really don't understand what you are trying to say here. Why is it necessary for you to analyze his lifestyle, posts, and women he says he likes? Just my two cents worth.

  11. #668

    Flights to SGN are cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Far fairer skin and nicer features. I'll take them over Thai gals any day.
    I think it would obvious to anyone who actually visited Thailand, that Thai people don't all have the same skin tone. Fairer skin? I've seen some lighter Thai girls and some who were caramel colored. And that was in my first hours in the country. I would think someone who purports to be omnipresent in BKK, would have noticed that.

    Similarly, I have observed that Vietnamese girls do have a range of skin tones, as well. I was approached by one at ACE last March who was just plain white, and didn't look Asian. If she said she was Greek, I would have believed her. But she was a anomaly. So, to make a generalization like really makes me wonder what is your actual experience with these girls? I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.

    However, if you believe that Vietnamese girls are so great, then why aren't you doing trip reports from Vietnam? Why are you perpetually posting on the Thailand forums? I noticed that you just made a post on a Bangkok soapie thread. Now if you can afford a visit to a soapie, you can afford a ticket to HCMC. I just looked at Skyscanner, and you can get a flight to SGN tomorrow for as low as $56 USD. So what's keeping you from mongering in Vietnam if you like their women so much? Why are you in Thailand if you prefer Vietnamese girls? Your story doesn't make sense.

  12. #667
    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor2522  [View Original Post]
    Great report, thanks! Foreign-girl haunts are most welcome. Is Nana Condo also known as Nana City Inn?

    https://www.hipflat.com/projects/nana-condo-setbyl
    It is the white building behind it. I have been with her. The room is not great, just mattresses on the floor.

  13. #666

    Vietnamese Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    I have to agree here with BKKDog and Goatscrot. Among all South East Asians, Viets are probably the best lookers with the best overall bodies (I mean in terms of shape, proportion, skin tone, color, etc.). How a girl performs, IMHO, is far too individualistic to generalize a nationality being good or bad in bed. That said I have never had a bad lay with a Viet girl.

    I have had my fair share of Viets in their homeland as well as in Singapore. Particularly the ones in BRIX will absolutely blow you away.
    For the sake of full disclosure, I have never been to Vietnam, but I have had my fair share of Viets too.

    One of the most beautiful girls I ever shagged was a Viet FL that I met in Brix Bar, Singapore. She was a very nice girl too.

    I have also torn myself away from very sexy local Indo girls on rare occasions in the former Alexis Hotel, Jakarta when a particular Viet girl there was too smokin' hot to let go by and I received really great professional service on those occasions.

    My experience with Viets in Macau and HKG is a little different.

    In Macau the Viets for the most part take a back seat to the Chinese girls & "Korean / Japanese" models. Thus, many Viets are assigned to the thigh massage or Japanese bath service. The ones that do make the lineup, IMHO, are not nearly as pretty as the Chinese models, but they ARE significantly less expensive. In all fairness, I know I am comparing model quality Chinese to regular lineup girl quality Vietnamese. But I do not recall ever seeing a Vietnamese "model" in any Macau sauna.

    In HKG a few years back, I used to see many Viet FL's hanging out in Wanchai bars in HKG. Some were very good looking. Some were real hustlers. And some were really nice girls. It varied, but it was fairly easy to spot the hustlers during the audition and getting to know you stage in the bar. I am not sure if Viets visit HKG anymore in the same numbers that they used to. Chinese visa rules were tightened and that had a big impact the last time I was visiting HKG.

    Likewise, there used to be a large number of Viet girls in Phnom Pehn bars, but now a days they are almost all gone.

    So that sums up my Vietnamese exposure. I like them and expect I will have more pleasant trysts with them in the future. I am still hesitant to visit Vietnam, however. I think I would like the country and the people, but from what I hear the punting scene leaves much to be desired so I will stick with meeting these girls in Singapore and Macau mostly and occasionally in Jakarta too.

    NB.

  14. #665
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wares on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most responsive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.

    We planned to meet at the front door of the building. She came out in a sexy pair of jean shorts with a pink see through negligee on and I almost came right in my pants. Once in the room, she immediately took her top off to reveal a wonderful pair of natural C cup breasts. We chit chatted a bit while undressing. During this chit chat, she mentioned her friend was smoking in the other room. Well this turned out to be 2 friends LOL. She then asked me if I wanted to fuck the 2 of them for 5,000 total. I thought about it seriously for a moment but decided to pass. Anyways onto the main event. She started with a BBBJ and then after a few minutes asked if I wanted to fuck her. I agreed and we started with her riding me Cow girl. This girl really knows how to put on a show. A lot of dirty talk which is obviously fake but a pleasant change from most of the reserved Thai girls. She reminded me of View from Tulip with the way she was talking. " cum inside my pussy" "fuck me harder" "I'm cumming" and so on. Next, we changed positions to mish and I stroked her clit while enjoying to look at her lovely body. Then a finish in doggy as I watched her nice ass rotate on my cock. It was a site to see. I sure love Vietnamese ladies. I have fucked them 2 times in Thailand and a few times in Laos. I don't want to travel to Vietnam as I would never come back. I would get lost in all that VN pussy and no one would ever see me again. Attached are the photos she sent me while booking and her profile photo. Round 2 was similar.
    Great report, thanks! Foreign-girl haunts are most welcome. Is Nana Condo also known as Nana City Inn?

    https://www.hipflat.com/projects/nana-condo-setbyl

  15. #664

    Mina.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wears on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most repsomsoive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.
    Not sure if I was in the same apartment. I went to a side unit. The place reminded me some of the apartment casas in Santiago. No beds, mattresses on the floor. It was pretty bad by Bangkok standard. She asked 300 be for the room which I refused. The place is nowhere as good as a short time room.

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