Moscow

[YummyPL]

It seems we have many pessimists in our midsts. All, if you are willing to do a little work before you arrive and are not a total loser, Moscow is still a potential gold mine. Jake and others here can tell you, I am not at all pretty (and neither is he) but we do pretty well for ourselves. It takes a lot of work, but the reward of having very attractive girls in their 20s going after old men like us (40s and 50s) is still a very realistic goal. Keep the faith and do the work.

[Jorge Rad10]

I was seeing myself heading to Night Flight last night to see why this place is so famous. Dining at the restaurant, food is OK, I'm not a picky eater but for those who expect more it would be a huge disappointment. But I didn't go for the food of course, I got down to the bar, to see the girls, to be impartial with what I saw, a lot of 5's. 6's maybe one 8, but no more that that, staying there because I want to have fun by all means, approach to some girls, but they were so expensive 500 USD for normal sex WTF! I got used to the Brazilian style "Completa " girlfriend style I think. To be honest I found girls better shape in other countries and paying for 1 hour of normal sex with a devushka is just not fair, trying to bargain a bit but didn't work. So decided to have more Black Russians, anchor at the bar. One girl came and ask for a cognac, she was a 6 or 7, but she was wearing normal clothes, I liked her attitude, very casual, not as the other professionals, talk a bit but unfortunately she wasn't good in English, she said sorry and turn to drink her cognac and smoke. An hour ago went by, drank my last vodka and was heading to the exit door, suddenly I saw that girl again, sitting on the sofas, I asked she if her mobile could translate Russian to English and she said yes, beginning of the conversation was as usual, but then I was touching and kissing her, more minutes of silly conversation and decided to take her to my apartment, for 2 hours. Taxi driver got lost for half hour I think damn. But in the meantime I was warming her up, she looked surprise to my initiative. We got my apartment and started a wild session of sex, she was on fire, kissing as a girlfriend and even when she said anal wasn't included she accepted after some fingers slip in her pink tunel. It was great experience, she tried to please me in every moment. She stayed more than two hours, finally around 9 am she decided to dress up again and take a cab. I could see she wasn't a sex professional as the other girls of the club, she wanted to fuck and have fun also. Unfortunately she will leave to Uzbekistan next Wednesday, otherwise I would have met her again.

Having fun in Moscow in winter is not bad idea after all.

Jens

[Leggio1]

Russia was probably an interesting place Sometimes ago for the punters it is not anymore the place, It is close to be funny. Foreigners not welcome and worst in small city. Couple of hours of vb kontact and mamba for nothing since the girls do not want to make effort, more and more scam, girl sick the day of the meeting (3 times. 3 different girls). Then now it is necessary to speak Russian to be punter in Russia. The point is like that now they have development or let say they can make credit to bank and they have in their place enough to be happy. They are not waiting anymore for you and you waste your time here. So forget the beautiful girl easy to get for foreigner. The last point, on, why they are fat after 30 years old, seen on that forum a couple of time, that's simple, they drink like a man! . After in club, yes you can get but nothing is now not different than Paris or London. To summarise, Russia become boring on punter way. I did not come here for 3 days and I am expatriate. One point more, they are still easy girl, but they are black. Do not see judgement but it is a fact if you come with your dream of tall blond for the night, be aware they have been replaced at work.

Good to see posts that are in touch with reality rather than delusional claims of paradise.

[Bruno750]

Russia was probably an interesting place Sometimes ago for the punters it is not anymore the place, It is close to be funny. Foreigners not welcome and worst in small city. Couple of hours of vb kontact and mamba for nothing since the girls do not want to make effort, more and more scam, girl sick the day of the meeting (3 times. 3 different girls). Then now it is necessary to speak Russian to be punter in Russia. The point is like that now they have development or let say they can make credit to bank and they have in their place enough to be happy. They are not waiting anymore for you and you waste your time here. So forget the beautiful girl easy to get for foreigner. The last point, on, why they are fat after 30 years old, seen on that forum a couple of time, that's simple, they drink like a man! . After in club, yes you can get but nothing is now not different than Paris or London. To summarise, Russia become boring on punter way. I did not come here for 3 days and I am expatriate. One point more, they are still easy girl, but they are black. Do not see judgement but it is a fact if you come with your dream of tall blond for the night, be aware they have been replaced at work.

[Leggio1]

In the meantime I've been taking some Russian classes back in the west.

Rosetta Stone with a good verb book is dollar for dollar the best if you want to learn Russian. Don't go into a Russian class green, it's expensive and you will learn little.

[DavidVanSchuma]

I know you guys may excoriate me for posting this here and not in the internet dating thread, but there is not a lot of info there about using Mamba to hook up in Moscow. Most of the discussions are about using it in the provinces.

I've been on for about a week with very little success. I am chatting regularly with some girls but so far no one has agreed to meet up. (I did have one meeting lined up but the girl cancelled because she said she had a temperature. Yeah right!).

I have ben getting a lot of offers form girls who want to meet up for cash. They are asking anywhere form 3k to 10 k. I've avoided this as I am worried about the old bait and switch with the fotos (or worse). Does anyone have any experience with this?

Maybe I'm just wasting my time on Mamba? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V

You probably read a few of my posts about mamba. The only advice I can give is that you will be rewarded for time and effort and more time and even more effort. It's probably easier in Moscow to find English speaking girls so mamba is not so essential, but out in the provinces it would have taken more wasted time trying to find these girls on street, bars, clubs. Then once you find one on mamba, you still need to take time and more time until they are willing.

My most successful place was a particular English language school for finding a classroom full of attractive girls who spoke English, and wanted some 'private' lessons. The only thing I can advise is to think outside the box. However, I've always found language classes full of girls and a good place to meet them with the exception of my Russian class now. It's just guys with the same motive as me. .

In the meantime I've been taking some Russian classes back in the west.

[Stravinsky]

But I must tell you I am too much busy with Turkish girls here. I am in between two circumstances; To solve nose up-extremely selective- Turkish women character or get lost in Russian grammar.

Grammar? Who needs grammar? This is not rocket science. Not necessary to read Tolstoy or quote from Pushkin.

This is what you do. . .

Learn to recognize and pronounce the Cyrillic alphabet,

Learn some basic conversational phrases like,"How are you?","I am fine","What is you name?","Can I cum in your mouth?", (just joking)

Learn how to conjugate some basic verbs like,"I want", or "I need",

Learn how to count,

Learn to tell time,

And you're set.

Too true Strav. My last visit was for intensive Russian lessons. I'm still fairly hopeless (hard to teach an old dog new tricks) but I'm trying to learn and all my "GF's" think its great that I'm taking lessons. And they really want to help me practice Russian.

This is a perfect example of what Gergiev said: you don't want to ever get too good at speaking Russian. If you speak the language perfectly, then you become just another Russian man, and there are plenty of those. You want to maintain an endearing kind of ineptness that elicits the sympathy of the dyevchyonki.

Sounds like it's working for you.

[Ricardo Cabro]

Something else that cannot be said enough is that if you speak a little Russian, all kinds of doors will be open to you.

Too true Strav. My last visit was for intensive Russian lessons. I'm still fairly hopeless (hard to teach an old dog new tricks) but I'm trying to learn and all my "GF's" think its great that I'm taking lessons. And they really want to help me practice Russian.

[Leggio1]

Moscow girls are a lot smarter these days. Your Rolex watch or shoes won't do the trick. A little bit of language is great but what you really need is some kind of job that ties to city. Something that introduces them to new and better people they normally would not meet. Something good, like a banker, now that would really open doors.

[Iceberg27]

This reminds me of the story about the man who could never fix the leak in his roof. In the summer, when the weather was good, there was no reason to. And in the winter, when it rained, it was too wet to get up there and do it.

Strav,

This is a good story for explaining the situation. But I must tell you I am too much busy with Turkish girls here. I am in between two circumstances; To solve nose up-extremely selective- Turkish women character or get lost in Russian grammar.

Cheers.

[Stravinsky]

Guys you know I am not so good reading cyrillic. BTW stoppped studying Russian. Usually you have a great motivation when you already turn back from EE and after a time you loose it because you don't need it in your own country.

This reminds me of the story about the man who could never fix the leak in his roof. In the summer, when the weather was good, there was no reason to. And in the winter, when it rained, it was too wet to get up there and do it.

[Uncle Volodya]

I have used mamba a lot in Moscow, and I have been very happy with it.

But I always pay (3 to 10 K)! First because there is no other way, second because then I am free to do what I want.

I have met a lot of girls, many of them are very attractive and sexy (the "individual" do not cheat so much with the photos, only a little about their age) , many times we had passionate sex.

Some of them were really hookers, but most of them, and I try to spot them, were girls having a normal life, a normal job, some even had husband they live with.

Some of them I choose to meet again and we have entered in a "friendship" relation. And if ever I wanted, some of the relations could be tighten. On top of that, one of them took me to group sex parties and next summer I plan to drive one of them (with her car) from Moscow to the Caspian sea.

Is there a better way that mamba to visit the country?

Now If you don't want to pay and you don't learn Russian, there is nothing mamba can do for you.

Thanks man. I really appreciate you sharing your experience.

I don't mind to pay and my Russian is pretty good, just below fluent.

I was just worried that these were all scams and that I would end up having a horrible time.

So do you look for the girls that say they are looking for a sponsor? How do you tell which girls are part timers? (that would be golden!) By the quality of the photos (some are just too much out of a men's magazine).

Thanks in advance!

And stay horny my friend.

Uncle V

[Chercheur]

I know you guys may excoriate me for posting this here and not in the internet dating thread, but there is not a lot of info there about using Mamba to hook up in Moscow. Most of the discussions are about using it in the provinces.

I've been on for about a week with very little success. I am chatting regularly with some girls but so far no one has agreed to meet up. (I did have one meeting lined up but the girl cancelled because she said she had a temperature. Yeah right!).

I have ben getting a lot of offers form girls who want to meet up for cash. They are asking anywhere form 3k to 10 k. I've avoided this as I am worried about the old bait and switch with the fotos (or worse). Does anyone have any experience with this?

Maybe I'm just wasting my time on Mamba? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V

I have used mamba a lot in Moscow, and I have been very happy with it.

But I always pay (3 to 10 K)! First because there is no other way, second because then I am free to do what I want.

I have met a lot of girls, many of them are very attractive and sexy (the "individual" do not cheat so much with the photos, only a little about their age) , many times we had passionate sex.

Some of them were really hookers, but most of them, and I try to spot them, were girls having a normal life, a normal job, some even had husband they live with.

Some of them I choose to meet again and we have entered in a "friendship" relation. And if ever I wanted, some of the relations could be tighten. On top of that, one of them took me to group sex parties and next summer I plan to drive one of them (with her car) from Moscow to the Caspian sea.

Is there a better way that mamba to visit the country?

Now If you don't want to pay and you don't learn Russian, there is nothing mamba can do for you.

[Uncle Volodya]

In my personal opinion, Mamba is a waste of time for meeting girls in Moscow. It used to be good some years ago but now it seems that it is frequented more often now by Hookers and scam artists. You are not alone in your experience.

Thanks man. I will keep trying for a while with the 2-3 girls I am in contact with and seem legit.

I may also take up oen of these P4Pers eventually. Though I am scared of ending up in an iced up bath tub missing a kidney. LOL.

I will try and hit Concert and a few other places tonight and will post my experiences.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V

[Jake993]

I know you guys may excoriate me for posting this here and not in the internet dating thread, but there is not a lot of info there about using Mamba to hook up in Moscow. Most of the discussions are about using it in the provinces.

I've been on for about a week with very little success. I am chatting regularly with some girls but so far no one has agreed to meet up. (I did have one meeting lined up but the girl cancelled because she said she had a temperature. Yeah right!).

I have ben getting a lot of offers form girls who want to meet up for cash. They are asking anywhere form 3k to 10 k. I've avoided this as I am worried about the old bait and switch with the fotos (or worse). Does anyone have any experience with this?

Maybe I'm just wasting my time on Mamba? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V

In my personal opinion, Mamba is a waste of time for meeting girls in Moscow. It used to be good some years ago but now it seems that it is frequented more often now by Hookers and scam artists. You are not alone in your experience.