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  1. #32829
    With so many ladies coming over, there is generally some down time when I can talk to the ladies. When they have had some drinks, then some of them drop the bullshit, and talk about what really goes on.

    Yesterday, a lady was talking about a friend of hers who went to Germany to marry some old guy. Zero doubt that the lady in Germany is marrying for money, it's just a very long barfine for her. So, I asked about the lady in Germany's Thai boyfriend, and was told that the fucking ***** sends her mother 1000 baht a month, but the Thai boyfriend gets 5000 baht every month.

    Later on, I was talking to a young lady about orgasm, and she had no idea what I meant. She has 2 friends who are squirters, and she thought that squirting was what any lady does when they cum. Since she can't squirt, she thought she couldn't cum.

    It's pretty normal for a lady to claim that she never came with her Thai boyfriend since he finished in 3 minutes. And for them to say their first orgasm came with a customer who fucked them for a long time.

    Of course, they all fake it 99% of the time, except with me.

  2. #32828
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. What do you mean if she finds out? I will never understand why men strap unnecessary rules on themselves. Why not have an agreement in your relationship that you are going to fuck other chicks? To me that seems the sane thing to do. Just like you see politicians hard charging for all these laws and moral bullshit then turns out they are the main ones not following it. Why guys?
    Let's just say that your experience and those of most long term residents in Thailand are not the same.

    To generalize, the long term contract between Farangs and Thai ladies is that the man gets great sex and she performs maid service, in exchange for exclusivity. You may think that's a bad deal, but many Farangs clearly don't agree.

    If you are talking about banging different girls in the same bar, that's a different story.

  3. #32827
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    But it's not always easy, the girlfriend has friends everywhere, and if she finds out, I hope you don't live in a place with a balcony.
    LOL. What do you mean if she finds out? I will never understand why men strap unnecessary rules on themselves. Why not have an agreement in your relationship that you are going to fuck other chicks? To me that seems the sane thing to do. Just like you see politicians hard charging for all these laws and moral bullshit then turns out they are the main ones not following it. Why guys?

  4. #32826
    Quote Originally Posted by Mens2  [View Original Post]
    And if not. We need to work.

    So I'm not on a sex holiday.

    Sure, I have a decent amount of sex with different girls.

    But not daily thrice.
    Exactly! When you work or are self employed and have a regular girlfriend (non sex worker) there is not that many free hours in the week to go and chase some strange.

    I do like to visit the occasional oily or soapy though. Great for relaxation and I believe keeps many a relationship healthier.

  5. #32825
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    Most farangs that live in Thailand, as I do. Have a girlfriend and get a little bit of strange on the side, as I do.
    And if not. We need to work.

    So I'm not on a sex holiday.

    Sure, I have a decent amount of sex with different girls.

    But not daily thrice.

  6. #32824
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBkk  [View Original Post]
    Most farangs that live in Thailand, as I do. Have a girlfriend and get a little bit of strange on the side, as I do.
    But it's not always easy, the girlfriend has friends everywhere, and if she finds out, I hope you don't live in a place with a balcony.

    I was hooked up with a Thai lady, but I escaped. Now I can bang my regular ladies, but she has to hide anything she does (because I make it clear that dont want to barfine ladies with customers or sponsors, only ladies who really need help).

    Of course, it’s a great help that I am double vaccinated with Moderna.

  7. #32823
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I can't understand why farang are doing this rather than banging many ladies as they always did and having the time of their lives as you obviously are.
    Most farangs that live in Thailand, as I do. Have a girlfriend and get a little bit of strange on the side, as I do.

  8. #32822
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    .... most Farangs in Pattaya have been trapped in relationships with Thai ladies.....
    I can't understand why farang are doing this rather than banging many ladies as they always did and having the time of their lives as you obviously are.

  9. #32821
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I am basically supporting 15 ladies who have or no customers now. These are unemployed bargirls who live in free rooms in their bars. There are a few with customers, but these are rare, as most Farangs in Pattaya have been trapped in relationships with Thai ladies.

    So, I had two pairs of ladies yesterday. It's amazing to me how a Thai lady has no worries about giving a blowjob in front of her friend. I guess they would draw the line at ass fucking, though. So, it was constant HJs and BJs all day, and then my overnighter lady came for fucking.

    One very popular bargirl came back to Pattaya this week, after leaving to live with her boyfriend. Apparently she was dead broke, and so she came back in hopes of finding customers. Things are so bad, she has to come to my condo for debauchery for small money. Another lady I know has a Farang boyfriend, but times are tough so she is visiting me, as well. Well, the ladies tell me she doesn't have a boyfriend and she lives in a room in a bar, so maybe her boyfriend went home..
    Mate,

    It's all good. We are in lockdown and did not.

    Have a decent root for months. It's been great reading your reviews. Enjoy while you can and keep helping as much as you can. After all we want the decent ones to survive this pandemic and make some of us happy.

  10. #32820
    I am basically supporting 15 ladies who have or no customers now. These are unemployed bargirls who live in free rooms in their bars. There are a few with customers, but these are rare, as most Farangs in Pattaya have been trapped in relationships with Thai ladies.

    So, I had two pairs of ladies yesterday. It's amazing to me how a Thai lady has no worries about giving a blowjob in front of her friend. I guess they would draw the line at ass fucking, though. So, it was constant HJs and BJs all day, and then my overnighter lady came for fucking.

    One very popular bargirl came back to Pattaya this week, after leaving to live with her boyfriend. Apparently she was dead broke, and so she came back in hopes of finding customers. Things are so bad, she has to come to my condo for debauchery for small money. Another lady I know has a Farang boyfriend, but times are tough so she is visiting me, as well. Well, the ladies tell me she doesn't have a boyfriend and she lives in a room in a bar, so maybe her boyfriend went home.

    I can generally tell the ladies with boyfriends once they have had some drinks, the ladies with boyfriends are much more reserved, the ladies who don't have regular access to dicks basically try to gangbang me. I'm not saying I am God's gift to women, I am saying these ladies are hard up. They went from getting laid every day, to nothing, almost overnight. Even Thai moto drivers, the fall back for bar girls, are in short supply, and since the ladies live in bars, it's hard to find a place to fuck a Thai man, who all live with other Thai ladies.

    The other factor is that I have most of these ladies for years, and ladies like to fuck men they have known for a long time, all other things being equal. Repeating customers are gold for bar girls.

    So, even though things are pretty tragic here, it's the best time for mongering for me.

  11. #32819
    I am still at it, it's like a job to me, scheduling the ladies, shopping for alcohol (not as easy as you might think), plus trying to fit daily chores into the short time when ladies aren't here. The ladies who come alone will message me asking for a time slot.

    Today, I have 2 showing up around noon, and 2 coming at 4 pm. Then an overnighter will come when they leave.

    Because Covid is so bad, I am cutting down on pairs who don't live together or otherwise hang out together.

    I am trying to remember what happened yesterday, but it's kind of a blur. I had one lady who came for the first time. She had just a few drinks and passed out. I heard her throwing up in the toilet, and then she emerged and announced she had a customer and had to leave immediately. Wow. Amazingly, with a couple of hours, she posted a photo of herself on Facebook.
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  12. #32818

    Delegation, pleasure and submission

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Hmm. No, my only objections FOR ME in the post you quoted was about "pulling out to CUM ON" whatever. That includes pulling out of her mouth to cum on her face, in her ear, on her tits or out an open window, none of which do I consider an "oral finish or oral ending." Btw, just wondering, do you think those porn actors pull out of their sex partner's pussy or mouth and masturbate a finish onto their girl's stomach, face or tits when they are engaged in a private sexual encounter behind closed doors without a camera rolling in the room to film the "money shot" essentially meant to prove to a porn audience that they finished? I don't think for one minute that is how those porn actors choose to finish in their off camera, personal sexual encounters.
    When with a personal lover, I suppose a porn actor CIP or CI anus or let the young girl get them off with her tongue, lips, throat and hands. I was more thinking of enjoying P4 P to the fullest. For me making the young bird submit to me and to put her in her place, to make her sweat and to take her power over me away, meaning to deep throat, skull fuck, penetrate as deep as possible in the tightest orifice possible and to facial her are part of the pleasure. That works better in P4 P than with lovers. 4 hands do more good than 2. A good love girl finds balls, anus, legs or tummy to carress even if the sperm jet is administered by her lover.

  13. #32817

    But that is not my position

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    ..
    I disagree with EihTooms that a good licking and an oral finish are not an acceptable ending. In fact even a well delivered double handed mano job cannot be replicated by masturbating. A lubed finger on your anus can be exhilerating. Most good porn flicks end with a rich facial and hair shot. The whole P4 P biz used to be dominated by oral sex and esp. Oral endings before condoms became available.
    Hmm. I am not sure how you got that an "oral finish or oral ending" is not acceptable to me. I have always been in favor of a BBBJ+CIM option where BBFS+CIP is not agreed to by the lady. There are times when I prefer an oral finish or ending over a CIP finish. I will even happily take a girl who agrees upfront to that when she will not agree upfront to a BBFS+CIP. And, yeah, that is when I am fine to "go with the flow" and many a girl has then gotten into it with me enough, gotten horny enough to change her mind about not allowing BBFS+CIP.

    I only dismissed BBBJ+CIM as a reliable fall back service in the post you quoted in that saying nothing upfront about either a CIP or a CIM finish means I might find out at crunch time that she isn't going to provide EITHER kind of finish. Or in the case of BBBJ+CIM it turns out she either is in fact or is only pretending to be utterly inept at the act. I have had plenty of sessions go that way when I have not cleared it upfront before I take the girl and, yes, even with girls who were frothing at the mouth crazy horny and soaking the bed with natural pussy lube. LOL.

    Unless the money is very little and whether I finish or not this time with this girl is quite unimportant, there is no reason not to clear up one or both kinds of finish with a P4P girl before I take her. It requires no more than one or two sentences of about 7 seconds in length.

    No, my only objections FOR ME in the post you quoted was about "pulling out to CUM ON" whatever. That includes pulling out of her mouth to cum on her face, in her ear, on her tits or out an open window, none of which do I consider an "oral finish or oral ending."

    Btw, just wondering, do you think those porn actors pull out of their sex partner's pussy or mouth and masturbate a finish onto their girl's stomach, face or tits when they are engaged in a private sexual encounter behind closed doors without a camera rolling in the room to film the "money shot" essentially meant to prove to a porn audience that they finished? I don't think for one minute that is how those porn actors choose to finish in their off camera, personal sexual encounters.

  14. #32816

    EihTooms not wrong, but.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    "Go with the flow and see what happens in the room" is fine as long as you can still get some P4P value out of an experience where no sexual performance and finish is possible wearing a condom for those 10%, 20%, 50% or whatever percentage of times the "go with the flow" method leads directly to the girl still refusing to go bareback. I am talking about those of us where "Must wear condom" is the same as saying "There will be no sex for you at this time." Yes, I know a BBBJ+CIM is still a possible option, but only if the girl agrees to it and can and wants to be minimally competent at it. And, sorry, handjobs are not ever going to be a fallback position for me for any amount of money. Or even for free for that matter. And I consider pulling out of anything to "cum on" something to be a handjob at best (if she does the finishing) and masturbation at worst (if I do the finishing).

    Consequently, mentioning it, discussing it or outright negotiating for bareback upfront before I take the girl from her bar, club, stroll or meet the dating site P4P girl is by far the better option if having sex and cumming during the planned session matters to me.

    Then again, the 3 simple criteria I mentioned previously for the girl to be attractive, sober and for us to have the session by about 9-10PM, already eliminated me from most of the "go with the flow" contest during normal times. lol. I suspect trying to achieve any 2 of those three criteria time and time again would have messed up a lot of self-claimed high percentage rates of getting BBFS+CIP using the "go with the flow" method in the Thai P4P scene.
    The case for agreeing on things upfront is strong. I meant to plead for flexibility. I meant to say that pleading during play for extras such as BBBJ, BBFS, CIP, CIM, CIF or anilingus is often successful for ridiculously little money. Why? The young girl is horny. The young girl has come to know you and becomes more trusting. Any smart young girl does have a vested interest in getting you off, for men get peaceful in the act. I only go with real pretty, young lookers. I disagree with EihTooms that a good licking and an oral finish are not an acceptable ending. In fact even a well delivered double handed mano job cannot be replicated by masturbating. A lubed finger on your anus can be exhilerating. Most good porn flicks end with a rich facial and hair shot. The whole P4 P biz used to be dominated by oral sex and esp. Oral endings before condoms became available.

  15. #32815
    We dodged a bullet, no major changes to Covid restrictions were announced.

    I had a lady in the early afternoon, she was a bit low energy. The ladies with Thai boyfriends or lots of customers are pretty much like that.

    Two ladies later in the day were better, but one was a clock watcher, it was like watching a taxi meter. So I will split them up in the future.

    Tomorrow I will take a day off from drinking.

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