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  1. #15803

    In war things change

    Chapter 3.

    I had arranged to breakfast with Mamba Girl at our usual coffee bar. She was on time as usual. Indeed as an aside I have found punctuality to be one of the best indicators of a girl's subsequent performance.

    We returned to my apartment where I enjoyed a repeat of yesterday. A late Lunch at Pantagruel (a really great Italian restaurant and one of the oldest in Kiev) followed before she headed off into the sunset, well Tetrana metro station anyway. Mamba Girl is not a 9 or 10 but, as we say in England, she does what it says on the tin. She is also a really nice woman.

    The evening had of course been committed to Zlata but I was already beginning to have my doubts. I don't like late changes of plan and girls who do this usually turn out to be bad. In Zlata's case she had failed to reply to my several messages of that day seeking confirmation of our evening.

    By 6 pm I was getting twitchy and had messaged Alina to see if she was available to which she had immediately replied that she was. I was therefore actually annoyed when Zlata finally messaged me to say that she'd be at the restaurant at 8 pm.

    What turned up did not accord with my memories of the girl I'd spent so much on when I last visited Kiev. Still cute and very feminine she was dressed in denim shorts and an outfit which screamed trailer park trash. Her legs were still as soft and sexy as before but in the bright light of a summer's evening bore too many signs of past shaving.

    Of course the fault was mine. My expectations were always unrealistic. No girl could have lived up to them but still I was disappointed.

    I tried to conceal my feelings but Zlata knew instantly. Indeed it may be that she had arrived at the very same conclusion about me: older than I remember, a little fatter and perhaps not quite as rich. Who knows.

    What followed was uncomfortable for both of us. Yes we chatted and joked and then cuddled and fucked but the magic was not there. She left early to the relief of both of us.

    Depressed and realizing that there was unlikely to be much happening elsewhere that Sunday night I went to sleep.

  2. #15802
    Quote Originally Posted by HarryHirsch  [View Original Post]
    Hey Guys,

    This is Mamba, girls know from where you are.

    If you in Kiev, write to them, best in good Russian, then you must pay for Blowjob at home, just 500 UAH +Taxi.

    But for US. Mens from Abroad. It is much expensiver. Mostly girls don't like short time (1 hour).

    If they make you offer for one night for 4000 UAH you can be happy. This is very cheep.

    Possible that they want 200 or 300 $ per night. And night starts at 9 pm and end earlie in morning.

    When I'm in Ukraine, stay with girl for holiday trip. I pay per week 400 and for 2-3 days more just 100 more.

    This is good money for them and for me it is OK.

    Julia from last time ask me few days before" we meet again in September?" She like it. Safe money and good time.
    I pay tops a Benjamin for a girl. The exception would be Gia with it's reputation. If you pay over 100 to non verified prostitutes, you are speculating on services and chemistry. A Loser's Game!

  3. #15801
    When I read you (or I try to read you because of your bad English), I have always an alert ringing in my mind. I haven't understood the reason yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryHirsch  [View Original Post]
    Hey Guys,

    This is Mamba, girls know from where you are.

    If you in Kiev, write to them, best in good Russian, then you must pay for Blowjob at home, just 500 UAH +Taxi.

    But for US. Mens from Abroad. It is much expensiver. Mostly girls don't like short time (1 hour).

    If they make you offer for one night for 4000 UAH you can be happy. This is very cheep.

    Possible that they want 200 or 300 $ per night. And night starts at 9 pm and end earlie in morning.

    When I'm in Ukraine, stay with girl for holiday trip. I pay per week 400 and for 2-3 days more just 100 more.

    This is good money for them and for me it is OK.

    Julia from last time ask me few days before" we meet again in September?" She like it. Safe money and good time.

  4. #15800

    Uah?

    Hey Guys,

    This is Mamba, girls know from where you are.

    If you in Kiev, write to them, best in good Russian, then you must pay for Blowjob at home, just 500 UAH +Taxi.

    But for US. Men from Abroad. It is much expensive. Mostly girls don't like short time (1 hour).

    If they make you offer for one night for 4000 UAH you can be happy. This is very cheep.

    Possible that they want 200 or 300 $ per night. And night starts at 9 pm and end earlier in morning.

    When I'm in Ukraine, stay with girl for holiday trip. I pay per week 400€ and for 2-3 days more just 100€ more.

    This is good money for them and for me it is OK.

    Julia from last time ask me few days before" we meet again in September?" She like it. Safe money and good time.

  5. #15799
    Quote Originally Posted by Rog123  [View Original Post]
    Nice new report Sgt!

    Just wanted to share a story about my Mamba experience. Had some good luck so far for my trip next week setting up contacts and such. Want to have some backups in case of flakes, however. So I message this new girl ("Sweet" if you are on Mamba you can see her under "new" girls looking for sponsor. And she writes me back and asks how much I propose for a meeting. This is strange as it is the second time this has happened. I told her "it is up to you how much you want to spend time but some pretty ladies have offered me for $70. " This is true. I saw I had a message from her and when I clicked it evidently she had blocked me. If she said this was not enough I would have probably negotiated with her but this was my starting points and just a suggestion. Because of this behavior I am glad I will not meet with her but I thought this was a bit rude and kind of funny.
    I also wrote to Sweet 22 and offered her 1.500 grw (about 55 €). She wrote: not interested. But did not block me. But I blocked her!

    I never will pay more than an amount between 1.000 to 2.000 grw. And 2. 000 only when I get an charm 8.

    Sweet 22 in my opinion is a 6 or a 7 with a bad character (maybe a good business girl).

  6. #15798

    The Fellowship of the Ring

    Chapter 2.

    Saturday dawned as hot as it had been on Friday. I arose late with the usual alcohol and Viagra induced headache. Hydrated, I headed off to a nearby coffee bar where I'd arranged to meet my Mamba Girl (please see earlier posts for description).

    A lovely lady she was both early and happy to see me. We chatted like old friends before heading back to my apartment where in air conditioned splendor she gave me the most complete three hole experience. Afterwards we went for a boozy lunch on a shady terrace before returning to my room for round two (total cost $100) after which I fell asleep and did not awake until nearly 7 pm.

    Intending it to be the main event I had reserved Saturday evening for Zlata (see previous posts) only to have my ardor frustrated by a message saying that she was in fact going to a wedding (which had obviously slipped her mind when the booking was made more than a week before) but could do the following day! Pimps and Agencies no doubt deserve their poor reputations but it must still be observed that organizing working girls is like herding cats.

    Fortunately I still had Andrei and rushed out to meet him for drinks at a local bar. Enthusiastic as ever we chatted over a pint and discussed possible girls when I suddenly noticed that I had a message on my phone. Looking down discretely I saw it was from Julia and it's contents were more than a little distracting: "Hi, you want to meet today, I have friend, you want do 3))" It was all I could do to keep my composure especially when Julia sent me a photo of her and her friend. I made my excuses and left Andrei as soon as possible as my plans for the evening were now clear.

    Negotiations followed. They wanted 4000 Hryvnia each for 2 hours. I wanted anal. Julia said that this was painful and that she would not do it. Her protests were at odds with my memories of the previous day when she had skipped off happily to Skybar after taking a pounding. Eventually of course she agreed.

    At 10 pm they both arrived at my flat looking gorgeous in their dresses: Julia and Diana. Julia I have described before. Diana was a slight pretty blond in her early 20's with blue eyes and what looked like a fantastic pair of knockers: a 9 by anyone's standards. I was just helpless.

    Chocolates and champagne followed before we all finally got into bed.

    A previous poster has commented on the fact that few Ukrainian girls are truly in to the lesbian experience and treat a 3 some as largely a tag team exercise. That was largely true of Julia and Diana but there were still some wonderful moments. Diana was clearly the more experienced of the two and knew when to engage in appropriate kissing and caressing. However it was Julia who took it up the arse and I shall never forget the image of Diana kissing her as she did so.

    The only disappointment in fact was Diana's tits which positively collapsed when I unhooked her bra. Still as Ron Weasely says: you can't have everything.

    Once the business was over I then had a happy 10 minutes watching the two of them prepare for their evening out. Job done they bounded off into the moonlight looking like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths.

    Their departure ought of course to have ended my evening but as it was only midnight and I fancied a drink I decided to stroll back to Buddha Bar. I went without expectation and not really looking for any action. An approach which on first entering the Bar I quickly concluded was the right one. The talent on display was poor save for two drop dead 10's who were obviously so in love with themselves that no one was even daring to approach them. The rest were a collection of MILFs and many of the usual suspects from yesterday. I pushed the Viagra back down into my pocket, ordered a second drink and settled in to watch the show.

    Fate however had other ideas.

    I had no sooner taken a second sip from my whiskey when the leggy brunette from the previous evening arrived and walked straight up to me. We said Hello, she gave me the most disarming smile and I got her a Mohito. What then followed says a lot about the psychology of Ukrainian women or at least those who hang out at Buddha Bar. Leaning so close that I could feel the warmth of her body she asked me why I had not waited for her that Friday evening. Somewhat surprised I reminded her of the fact that she had ignored me in favor of another suitor. Oh yes she said, he was from Sweden but it hadn't worked out and if I'd waited I could have had her rather than that blond (she'd clearly noticed). A pity I said but still there was this evening. She smiled again and whispered:"I usually charge $300 but for you it will only be $200. " I'm sure, given the similar approach of Blondie, that this is a new marketing strategy of the girls but it was one to which I nevertheless succumbed.

    Back at my flat Alina (early 20's, brunette who I think definitely rates an 8) was at first very cautious and professional. We slipped into the usual escort's routine: a chat on sofa with a barely touched drink, some caressing and then respective visits to the shower. At first this approach continued when we got into bed but as time went on she seemed to relax and get more and more affectionate until in the end it was very much a GFE albeit a covered one. Indeed when we'd finished she cuddled up to me with what I thought was genuine feeling and did not leave before giving me both her WhatsApp and Viber numbers. I missed her when she left.

  7. #15797

    Mamba

    Nice new report Sgt!

    Just wanted to share a story about my Mamba experience. Had some good luck so far for my trip next week setting up contacts and such. Want to have some backups in case of flakes, however. So I message this new girl ("Sweet" if you are on Mamba you can see her under "new" girls looking for sponsor. And she writes me back and asks how much I propose for a meeting. This is strange as it is the second time this has happened. I told her "it is up to you how much you want to spend time but some pretty ladies have offered me for $70. " This is true. I saw I had a message from her and when I clicked it evidently she had blocked me. If she said this was not enough I would have probably negotiated with her but this was my starting points and just a suggestion. Because of this behavior I am glad I will not meet with her but I thought this was a bit rude and kind of funny.

  8. #15796

    Friday night and Saturday morning

    Chapter 1.

    Having checked into my apartment late owing to the traffic and a long wait to change money at Boryspil Airport I hurried over to Citronelle Restaurant for 9 pm where Julia was waiting. Wearing a short dress and a suntan she looked great and better than I remembered her. Dinner followed at which Julia tried but mostly failed to avoid getting drunk on the lovely wines I bought us. Dessert over we strolled back to my flat where I then proceeded to pump her arse with such enthusiasm that she let out the most enormous fart on my withdrawal. A great performance and one that I was this time equal to having saved myself for the trip to Kiev.

    The deed done Julia jumped out of bed and sped to the bathroom having arranged to meet her friends at Skybar that evening. I doubt those who saw her dancing away would ever have guessed how she had began that particular night.

    For my part I had arranged to meet Andrei at 12.30 at Buddha Bar and so had scuttled off myself within minutes of putting Julia in a taxi.

    I am not really a fan of Buddha Bar as the girls there are mostly older than in other clubs and the dancers are certainly not a patch on Skybar. However it's a great interior with free admission and none of the face control problems that you can encounter at some other establishments. It is also less crowded.

    Leaning back on the bar I checked my phone and found I had a message from Andrei to say that he was really sorry but couldn't make it as his wife was unwell (see previous posts); I had been left to my own devices.

    I surveyed the surrounding talent with no particular enthusiasm save for one tall brunette in her early twenties who was nicely dressed, had the most beautiful legs and an air of not really belonging in this place. Leggy (as she must be called at this juncture) was engaged in an unsatisfactory conversation with a short, plumb Scandinavian guy (as I later learnt) in his late 40's or early 50's who was clearly failing to close the deal. I tried to make eye contact. I knew I was better looking and better dressed than my competitor and expected to prevail, however I got nowhere. I knew she had clocked me and that I had clearly clocked her but she absolutely refused to make eye contact and continued to persevere with her stuttering Scandinavian. I gave up and turned my attentions to the rest of the bar.

    There are many reason to choose a girl and in this case a simple act of kindness proved to be one of them. Whilst trying to get the attention of Leggy I had observed a nicely dressed blond enter the bar out of the corner of my eye. Despairing with Leggy I look round at Blondie and saw her do the act that persuaded me to take her. The barman had just returned her change and she, after he'd left, countered her money and then pushed 20 Hryvnia back over to his side of the bar. It was an act of kindness that told me everything I needed to know about this lady's personality. Hookers, in my experience, rarely give tips and regard the cost of their drinks as a business expense (I would too).

    I smiled at Blondie. She smiled back with an expression that said: look I know I'm not a 10 and appreciate your interest. I approached, we said Hello, and exchanged names and pleasantries and then she cut to the chase: "I usually charge $200 but I will go with you for $150". I was amused and a little flattered and, remembering her own tip to the barman, agreed without further negotiation.

    Please don't get me wrong, in the cold light of day Blondie (Leanne) was only ever a 5 or 6. In her 30's she was a little overweight and had plainly seen better days. However she gave me a most enjoyable and fun (classic) service. She was smiley and open and just seemed to be pleased to be fucking someone she actually found quite attractive. I fell asleep a contented man.

    She left me her number which I can provide to suitable mongers but she said she is rarely in Kiev as she spends most of her time "working" in Moscow.

  9. #15795

    The problem of a second album

    Prologue.

    Waiting for my plane to take-off from London Gatwick I realized that I was facing the very real problem of a second album. Those of you who've read my posts of last month (thank you if you have) will know that on my previous visit to Kiev I enjoyed three exceptional encounters due in part to this thread's favorite pimp Andrei (PM me or indeed certain others if you want his number).

    About to return to Ukraine I began to comprehend the enormity of my task if I was to equal let alone surpass my previous visit. The dice do not fall twice so firmly in your favor and any seasoned gambler would know that it was time to leave the table but, like almost all mongers, I wasn't thinking with my head. I therefore proceeded to get drunk on UIA's red wine.

    Prior to leaving I had of course done my best to keep in touch (via WhatsApp and Viber) with previous contacts with a view to renewing our relationships. Mamba Girl had been particularly punctilious in replying to my messages but so too had a young lady going by the name of Julia.

    An attractive girl (7 but with really great tits), Julia had not really featured in my previous posts other than by way of a reference to her athletic performance after I had been left almost totally knackered by an earlier visit to one of Andrei's brothels. However like many an aspiring starlet, Julia was not a girl to take no, still less silence, for an answer. She had put her number in my phone at the end of our encounter and thereafter maintained a near constant barrage of messages. Ever the gentleman I had of course answered.

    Mamba Girl (I have given her details to one other member and will give it to others if, and only if, they convince me they'll treat her properly) had previously indicated that she preferred to meet in the daytime (for reasons which were never explained) and this suited me as of course it freed up my evenings for other women. We had therefore agreed on 2500 hryvnia a day to include anal and CIM.

    My initial plans were to spend my first night in Kiev with the enthusiastic Julia and then meet up with Mamba Girl the following day for a late breakfast and some midday sex.

    The arrangements with Julia had followed an interesting path that began with her asking for my help to buy an IPhone. I then replied that such devices were expensive and that she would have to do an awful lot more than just the classic sex that she had provided last time for me to pay her that kind of money. She protested that she was a good girl but negotiations followed and eventually we agreed on 4000 hryvnia for 3 hours including anal: god those Ukrainian girls love their phones!

  10. #15794
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammstein2  [View Original Post]
    My experience at my last trip was that the professional girls (what I defined is professional) want to use condoms for sex and sometimes also for BJ.

    The non or semi professionals never asked about it (except one girl). All of these girls have been 6 or 7.

    Have you made the same experiences?
    I would always insist on condoms. Ukraine HIV situation is supposed to be pretty bad so better not to take chance.

    Spielen sicher.

  11. #15793

    Uber from Zhulany

    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignPapa  [View Original Post]
    Arriving tomorrow, will see how it works from Zhulany.
    Uber was pretty poor from Zhulany, waited 10 minutes but no cars in the vicinity. Switched on the Uklon app and was in a taxi in 10 minutes, total cost 100 grivna, including tip.

  12. #15792

    No condoms

    My experience at my last trip was that the professional girls (what I defined is professional) want to use condoms for sex and sometimes also for BJ.

    The non or semi professionals never asked about it (except one girl). All of these girls have been 6 or 7.

    Have you made the same experiences?

  13. #15791
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomrifle  [View Original Post]
    NO, she wasn't the girl from the pic, but she was still hot and I had good time.

    Yesterday I went to 800 grivnia girl and she was still not the girl from the pic, not so hot, but I had good time.

    The prices range from 300 to 4000 grivnia so I wonder if higher price means better girl with real pics, or not necessarily. I think I am going to venture in the 300 market also to see if it is really possible to bang girl for 10 euro or would they be completely unfuckable.

    But what I really need to find is some clubs where you can look at the merchandise (ideally with at least 5-6 girls to choose from) or some message boards with real feedbacks for internet girls. Otherwise would be hit and miss experience.
    Do you dare to try a 300 grivna girl? You are so brave! Hehe.

    Before trying the 1000 grivna one, my friend was so near to call a 400 grivna, with the photo of as playboy model I said him "don't be crazy, its impossible!" then he called the 1000 grivna one, she was not pretty, so disappointing, once ended the service he said me "maybe I call to the 400 grivna one and comes the same girl" maybe he was true, never know.

    Don't forget to talk about your experience with a 300 grivna, we are so curious about what you will find.

  14. #15790

    Hi Harry

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryHirsch  [View Original Post]
    I don't have any problems with Mamba. I'm be careful, when write first time with girls.

    Never say anything about money, be friendly but directly.

    LAst week meet 2 girls in Kiev 20 and 22, one looking perfectly, the other have very beautiful body.

    Katja the 20 years old girl, beautiful, need good leader.

    And Julia, give good Massage with Blowjob, Cum in mouth).

    So I'm very happy.

    They are two girls, don't have Mamba account, only speaking "propaganda" They work not so much.

    If any body interested for them, send me PM with Mail Adress.
    Hi Harry,

    I sent you pm.

    Thanks very much.

    Ciao.

    Misc.

  15. #15789

    Meet some nice girls

    I don't have any problems with Mamba. I'm be careful, when write first time with girls.

    Never say anything about money, be friendly but directly.

    Last week meet 2 girls in Kiev 20 and 22, one looking perfectly, the other have very beautiful body.

    Katja the 20 years old girl, beautiful, need good leader.

    And Julia, give good Massage with Blowjob, Cum in mouth).

    So I'm very happy.

    They are two girls, don't have Mamba account, only speaking "propaganda" They work not so much.

    If any body interested for them, send me PM with Mail Adress.

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