Makati

[WestCoast1]

People think I'm crazy but I find these girls good when you actually want a decent night out, a dinner and perhaps some semi intelligent conversation.

Guys who are only flying for a week or two at a time never believe me but for extended periods, where sex is so available and frequent, just plugging a way numerous times a day gets old pretty quick so its good to have some that can break up that monotony.

Concur. Have not been of that thought or habit much before, but Covid has changed things. While I keep a less-than handful of regulars, the dating sites are full of oodles of local girls who want to meet. I have taken several on coffee or lunch dates, just to have a date with a cutie. Have dropped several quickly for immaturity, and kept two others for repeated once-a-week (or so) dates only, no thought of bedding them. They are mature and have been out of the country for work, having a larger-than-normal viewpoint. Good discussions, and it never hurts to be seen with a pretty girl. Friends. Why didn't I think of this before?

S Nash: Stick with the shy girl, consider 1-2 more dates. A coffee at Starbucks or lunch at Jollie or in the mall is worth it if she gives up the panty.

[Goferring]

I had a first date today with an engineer, she was shy at first and you can see she had never go out with a foreigner before, just came out from a long serious relationship last year, we kissed for afew seconds and I thought she can be taken to a short hotel in the first date, but she said: "No, I'm just scare and shy right now, on the second date I promise we will go to the short hotel". Good thing we pay half-half during the date (I was willing to pay but she insisted to pay her half), and good thing I only spent 1 hour with her, enough time for me to call one of my friends who was waiting if my date didn't workout so we can go to the short hotel afterwards. At least the day wasn't wasted.

People think I'm crazy but I find these girls good when you actually want a decent night out, a dinner and perhaps some semi intelligent conversation.

Guys who are only flying for a week or two at a time never believe me but for extended periods, where sex is so available and frequent, just plugging a way numerous times a day gets old pretty quick so its good to have some that can break up that monotony.

Of course, with the right training, they can often become the best of both worlds. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Steve Nash]

I suspect that there are a lot of girls on the sites who have never chatted with a foreigner before. They simply do not know what to expect. I think some girls have been telling others that just chat then ask for money and all will be sent.

When asked for details or about anything sexual they get offended and confused. Offended because they are a modest people and confused because they honestly thought all they had to do was ask for cash and then head to the western union.

Once the reality sets in and they realize what is happening, they return.

Or maybe they are my type of girls, girls who are actually looking for a relationship or for romance, they play hard to get at first but eventually most of them will give-in, if not on the first date then in the second date.

I had a first date today with an engineer, she was shy at first and you can see she had never go out with a foreigner before, just came out from a long serious relationship last year, we kissed for afew seconds and I thought she can be taken to a short hotel in the first date, but she said: "No, I'm just scare and shy right now, on the second date I promise we will go to the short hotel". Good thing we pay half-half during the date (I was willing to pay but she insisted to pay her half), and good thing I only spent 1 hour with her, enough time for me to call one of my friends who was waiting if my date didn't workout so we can go to the short hotel afterwards. At least the day wasn't wasted.

Anyways when you date filipinas who are looking for serious relationship or romance, you take a risk that it might not workout in the first date so you better keep it a short date, and try to get her on the second date which they more likely give-in, if not I will just say bye to her and never see her again.

I understand now why most people here will rather pay for sex than going to an actually date and fuck them for free, but if you play your cards right, is very gratifying knowing that a girl felt for you and is having sex because she likes you and not because of your money. Plus I notice that if you are a good lover and a good guy who is honest to her after having sex, and you tell her that you have a girlfriend so she won't fall for you, some will like your honesty and be faithful to you, I have afew of them who are waiting faithfully for the next meet-up, I use them as my back-up plan and they know it, I'm not naive either, I know they are chatting with other guys and if that guy is here in the Philippines there is a chance they will meet them and have sex with them, BUT it surprise me that two of them asked my permission if they can meet the other guy (one with a foreigner and the other one with her ex), of course I told them: go ahead meet him, you know I have a girlfriend so is fair for you to meet other guys.

Only in the Philippines!

[Goferring]

I suspect that there are a lot of girls on the sites who have never chatted with a foreigner before. They simply do not know what to expect. I think some girls have been telling others that just chat then ask for money and all will be sent.

When asked for details or about anything sexual they get offended and confused. Offended because they are a modest people and confused because they honestly thought all they had to do was ask for cash and then head to the western union.

Once the reality sets in and they realize what is happening, they return.

That and sheer terror that a random white guy might pop out of thin air and confront them.

I've found the least answered question is drilling down and asking exactly where they are: where in manila; cebu province or cebu city? Etc. Obvously they think I may actually turn up on their doorstep and they would not have the faintest idea what to do.

Keep in mind I'm not a big cammer nor nudes fan so rarely ask about them. Obviously I'll accept what ever is sent but I don't chat just to get them. Normally I spend a lot of time in country so prefer organising meeting in person. Again for some girls that is a positive but for other's its terrifying.

Cheers. G.

[Kabul Guy]

Agreed there. All in, with the higher number of girls online and the frequency of replies form the hotties, I've also had a large uptick in the times I have been blocked. Sometimes after just one comment or request for deatails.

G.

I suspect that there are a lot of girls on the sites who have never chatted with a foreigner before. They simply do not know what to expect. I think some girls have been telling others that just chat then ask for money and all will be sent.

When asked for details or about anything sexual they get offended and confused. Offended because they are a modest people and confused because they honestly thought all they had to do was ask for cash and then head to the western union.

Once the reality sets in and they realize what is happening, they return.

[Turgid]

Had a walk down Burgos today on way out to do shopping. Not great, two of the bars are already closed for good it seems with signs up advertising they are available for lease or business ventures. While I'm not surprised this is happening, and I don't see things getting better any time this year, it's a shame.

No doubt p4p entrepreneurs have been the hardest hit by this pandemic.

[Muttley81]

Had a walk down Burgos today on way out to do shopping. Not great, two of the bars are already closed for good it seems with signs up advertising they are available for lease or business ventures. While I'm not surprised this is happening, and I don't see things getting better any time this year, it's a shame.

[Goferring]

I am looking 'in country' and have a couple of regular coffee shops and places I am visiting to meet filipina. Knowing a little language helps and some Ph geography. Almost any tagalog accent I hear in the streets I will respond to.

May not be so easy in the smaller Australian towns closer to our homes.

PP.

Sounds like your having fun. 😁.

Does your city have produce markets and / or casinos? Both are very popular places for pinas to work at and visit.

Enjoy. G.

[PilotPaul]

What are others doing?

Cheers. G.

I am looking 'in country' and have a couple of regular coffee shops and places I am visiting to meet filipina. Knowing a little language helps and some Ph geography. Almost any tagalog accent I hear in the streets I will respond to.

May not be so easy in the smaller Australian towns closer to our homes.

PP.

[Goferring]

I have even had girls block me then send nude pictures a couple days later.

Go figure.

Agreed there. All in, with the higher number of girls online and the frequency of replies form the hotties, I've also had a large uptick in the times I have been blocked. Sometimes after just one comment or request for deatails.

G.

[Kabul Guy]

So, if KG is the only one to admit getting girls nekked online and everyone seems to agree those of us stuck offshore won't be visiting for many months, what are people actually doing online or with the numbers gained?
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I always try to predict how difficult it will be to get them naked on line from their profiles.

So far I can not see any particular pattern between profiles and pictures and the ease of getting them naked on line.

I have had girls with very sexy profiles and deep cleavage shots refuse to even talk about the possibility and I have had girls with looking for god fearing man, no perverts or naked chats strip off in 2 minutes.

I have even had girls block me then send nude pictures a couple days later.

Go figure.

[Goferring]

Right now I am amusing myself by trying to see how many I can get naked on cam in a day. Record so far is 10.

So, if KG is the only one to admit getting girls nekked online and everyone seems to agree those of us stuck offshore won't be visiting for many months, what are people actually doing online or with the numbers gained?

A serious question as we all seem to be online but with no outcome possible in the foreseeable future.

Personally, I'm just getting numbers, chatting to confirm looks and location and then stockpiling for later use in country. I tried but maintaining a conversation for any more than one day just does my head in. I've also ranted on before about the pointlessness of maintaining contact while still overseas so I'm not going to put any effort into that but will pull out the better numbers when I'm actually in town (when ever that may be).

What are others doing?

Cheers. G.

[Kabul Guy]

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No reason to send money to girls who you never met. They have lived before without your help and in their own way will continue to live without your help.

That is pretty much my motto. I will occasionally send load so we can chat but never more than 100p or so a week. Don't pay for cam shows. I just tell them if they want to come see me when virus is over then I get to see them now. I usually get about a 50% show rate.

Right now I am amusing myself by trying to see how many I can get naked on cam in a day. Record so far is 10.

[Sammon]

I think you have hit the nail on the head there. Word soon spreads amongst a girl's friends what guys will send money for. See all the newbie 18 yos online now and the supermodel hot girls that now answer all messages (knowing that none of the guys are actually going to visit).

G.

Every time I chatted with 18-21 year old girls, they readily agree for everything you propose knowing fully well chatting is non physical. None of them have any I. The. Moment you take the chat to cam to cam there comes the sob story. Quite a few of them ready to show their bodies for money.

I am sure many our friends here as well as many lonely newbies are definitely sending money to young nubile girls. Whether they visit or not it is hard to know.

As seasoned travelers we know maybe one in 10 we hope to dip in will come through. However word definitely has spread that foreigners want young girls. So you see more and more 18 and 19 year old girls in DIA which I use.

COVID and no job, quarantine, no food has replaced buffalo needs oxygen, grandfather needs funeral, kicked out of house etc reasons for help.

No reason to send money to girls who you never met. They have lived before without your help and in their own way will continue to live without your help.

[PedroMorales]

Are there mongers so desperate for a root that they are sending unseen LBFMs cash for a WhatsApp chat? Most of the 'hotties' demanding cash then and there are actually lady-boys and hardcore scammers. There was never a good root to be had in any case. The prospect of a good root only exists in the mind of the monger wasting his time on dating apps while incarcerated thousands of miles away from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Hahaha!

CM,

Your logic fails. Porno is huge, as is LiveJasmin and such stuff. Live camming can pay well. And cammers I have bonked told me so. There is a points system, where they know who gives and who does not give and do tyhey know who is worth the effort. I have never paid a cammer but I have spoken to them on eg skype as they cammed and I have bonked them (and paid, as I am a gentleman).

There are plenty of Americans in fly over states happt to jerk off to some far away camer and pay for the privilege. Where do you think the tissue scarcity of a few months back came from?

If guys here are looking for a cheap bonk, why can LBFMs not look for an easy mark?