American Politics

[Xpartan]

It's just disgusting with all these older white male Americans with their noses planted up Vlad's cornhole. What we need to do is buy some large wooden shipping crates, punch some holes in the top, toss in some jugs of water, some pickled eggs and sausage and maybe some Rebel Yell or Jim Beam whiskey as act of mercy and deliver them on Russia's doorstep. That's where they belong as it's where their loyalties are, and in the US all they are doing is undercutting democracy fueling coups and pitching conspiracy theories. They can talk about liking the Russian pussy, but once over there for a while that dark world will absorb them and they will have no money for any of that. Slava Ukrainian.

It honestly baffles me how millions of Americans, who, unlike the Russians, have not been bombarded by endless government lies and propaganda day in and day out can have such cravings for authoritarianism. Seriously, I don't care about their political views, but this adoration for Putin is insane. 100 miles from Moscow or St. Petersburg people live in squalid conditions, often without heat, running water, or indoor plumbing. Only an idiot can think that Putin is an effective leader. There is debilitating unemployment, massive chronic alcoholism and relentless corruption everywhere, from schools to hospitals. These idiots love Putin for his tough talk, while the truth is he's a coward and always has been. He's an accidental president who got the job by being at the right place at the right time and by agreeing to commit every crime in the book his former masters asked him to. Yeah, what a great role model!

[EihTooms]

Says who? If you are an investor, you know when something is under priced, fairly priced, and over priced and buy and sell accordingly. Your definition of a long term investor (you are real good at defining investing phrases. You possess the ability of a Democrat, the typical Orwellian tongue of double speak) is not consistent with any I have heard of.

That was not a Buffett study, and it was only in the USA market which has had the greatest run in the history of stock markets in the last 100 years. If you have bought and hold in Europe in 1938, you would have lost your ass, so there was nothing proved conclusively dummy.

Now you are not keeping score? Weren't you bloviating about the one day rise after the Fed cut rates as expected?

You do not want to keep score when you are getting your ass kicked? Yeah, you are a Democrat and a hypocrite. Wait, aren't those the same things? Maybe you should spend more time on how to fairly value things and less on made up definitions.

If you think things are getting better, you are out of your mind. The Fed is going to start selling assets including mortgage backed securities from its balance sheet starting June 1. Do you know what that means for the housing market and market in general? Here is your homework. How does that affect the stock market?

In fact, I said nothing about the uptick the day the Fed raised rates. That was a side issue you introduced when you got stuck. Similar to your bizarre leap from the broad USA stock market to the European stock markets in this discussion. I merely pointed out the broad USA market closed firmly within Correction territory that day as it did in the days before and has in the days since while you have been hysterical about it crashing for months.

The Dow, your former favorite index for measuring the broad market and insisting the market is crashing, tanking, whatever for months before it consistently failed to deliver the horrible news you were hoping for and so you switched to the Nasdaq, is currently sitting at 10.75% below its all time record high close achieved under Biden.

If you have been taking notes, probably somewhere on page one of your notebook you will find my comments about single digit declines from record closing highs being considered nothing more that Sell-Offs, a decline between 10% and 20% being considered a Correction, which is actually generally a welcome, health-restoring event in the midst of a Bull Market Run and a decline closing greater than 20% being considered a Bear Market.

Much greater than that 20% and we're talking about Mega Bears, in my judgement, like the ones we had late in the previous 2 Repub potus administrations as well as before that and none in any Dem administration going back at least 100 years.

The S&P 500, Wall Streets go-to Index for measuring the broad USA market, is currently siting at about 14% below its all time record high close achieved under Biden.

Pop Quiz! Based on those closing numbers, where is the broad USA stock market (not Ethiopia's or the one on the Moon) sitting today?

I'll make it an easier Multiple Choice for you:

1) In a Sell-off.

2) In a Correction.

3) In a Bear Market.

4) None of the above.

5) All of the above.

6) Don't know.

7) But what about that stock market on the Moon?

[Elvis 2008]

A long term investor is not looking to move holdings in, out, in, out, etc of the market on the prospect of a potential Correction on the horizon.

Says who? If you are an investor, you know when something is under priced, fairly priced, and over priced and buy and sell accordingly. Your definition of a long term investor (you are real good at defining investing phrases. You possess the ability of a Democrat, the typical Orwellian tongue of double speak) is not consistent with any I have heard of.

But, as Buffet's famous bet proved conclusively, a long term investor who buys into a broadly based Index fund tracking, say, the S&P 500, rain or shine, high or low, through thick or thin, will kick the ass of virtually every professionally managed portfolio of stocks after doing what you described over a 10 year period.

That was not a Buffett study, and it was only in the USA market which has had the greatest run in the history of stock markets in the last 100 years. If you have bought and hold in Europe in 1938, you would have lost your ass, so there was nothing proved conclusively dummy.

Long term investors are not keeping score and calling it a game, set, match after 5 months.

Now you are not keeping score? Weren't you bloviating about the one day rise after the Fed cut rates as expected?

You do not want to keep score when you are getting your ass kicked? Yeah, you are a Democrat and a hypocrite. Wait, aren't those the same things? Maybe you should spend more time on how to fairly value things and less on made up definitions.

If you think things are getting better, you are out of your mind. The Fed is going to start selling assets including mortgage backed securities from its balance sheet starting June 1. Do you know what that means for the housing market and market in general? Here is your homework. How does that affect the stock market?

[MarquisdeSade1]

I've heard Rudy is dodging giving testimony under oath because he'll have to reveal what Trump told him was the real reason he encited and led that violent January 6, 2021 attack on America.

Yep, it was because Trump "smelled weakness" on the President of the United States at the time.

Same as always with these things.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/joe-biden...07/id/1068878/

[Paulie97]

I asked you very simply: "What would you do"?

Your answer was not to answer. "Both sides need to compromise and settle this, nobody is winning."

Can you read? Can you understand what you read? Do you know what I asked? Did you graduate from third grade or were you held back half-a-dozen times?

And he wants to turn it into a liberal / conservative, or CNN thing when the vast majority of the GOP supports the fundamentals of current Ukraine policy. That will include Fox News, who all want to make things very tough on Russia. Any "negotiation" will happen in it's own time, and not at the urgings of a simpleton in a hooker forum. And if we are looking for "hacks" we needn't look further than Rand Paul who need to go back to prescribing transition lenses.

[Paulie97]

The stupidity of the MAGA crowd is unbelievable. But the Orange Buffoon often stated that he liked his voters dumber than a box of rocks.

It's just disgusting with all these older white male Americans with their noses planted up Vlad's cornhole. What we need to do is buy some large wooden shipping crates, punch some holes in the top, toss in some jugs of water, some pickled eggs and sausage and maybe some Rebel Yell or Jim Beam whiskey as act of mercy and deliver them on Russia's doorstep. That's where they belong as it's where their loyalties are, and in the US all they are doing is undercutting democracy fueling coups and pitching conspiracy theories. They can talk about liking the Russian pussy, but once over there for a while that dark world will absorb them and they will have no money for any of that. Slava Ukrainian.

[Paulie97]

Allow me to try and translate your Newspeak.

1. The West should stop supporting Ukraine and let them dish it out mano a mano.

2. As soon as that happen, Putin (for some reason) will not push ahead in order to destroy Ukraine with maniacal and homicidal determination he's exhibited so far, but will somehow try to "compromise and settle. ".

Is that the gist of your suggestion?

Considering the complete and utter absurdity of this proposal, may I ask (again!) what goddamn hold does a two-bit thug and murderer Putin hold over you and your rightwing comrades?

No one invaded Serbia or Rwanda. The new governments of these countries handed over their war criminals to the ICC.

That's just two examples. There have been more.

And - what a funny thing - the West never had the leverage of crippling economic sanctions held over those two nations..

These ill educated rightwingnuts should just have a seat as they aren't capable of an intelligent discussion, even in a hooker forum. Putin wants all of Ukraine as he's been clear based on a highly slanted historical interpretation that he doesn't believe they have a right to exist. He made an official statement calling out NATO but knew we would never agree to prevent the Ukraine from ever joining, as we've had a longstanding open door policy. So there's another fake pretext for invading along with the "De-Nazification" hoghwash. If he can't take all of Ukraine he at least wants to destroy their economy by taking all the ports rendering them landlocked. He also wants Moldova and to go after NATO turning it back to pre-1997, as he has prior stated. He would do all of this and more if the appeasing isolationists had their way, while setting a most damaging international precedent, that stronger countries are free to swallow up weaker ones as long as they can, and without real consequences.

P.S. We should never give up on the idea of a free Russia as that is what many of their citizens, especially younger ones want.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I've heard Rudy is dodging giving testimony under oath because he'll have to reveal what Trump told him was the real reason he encited and led that violent January 6, 2021 attack on America.

Yep, it was because Trump "smelled weakness" on the President of the United States at the time.

Same as always with these things.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/meh...06/id/1068844/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Damn, is Pat Buchanan still alive? Hard to believe he hasn't offed himself after seeing 3 Dem presidents in a row kick the shit out of Reaganomics' historically failed results since Reagan was potus in addition to all 5 of them prior to Reagan becoming potus.

I hope you get to witness Our Lord and Saviors return Jan 2025.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/05/k...e-office-tart/

[PVMonger]

Allow me to try and translate your Newspeak.

1. The West should stop supporting Ukraine and let them dish it out mano a mano.

2. As soon as that happen, Putin (for some reason) will not push ahead in order to destroy Ukraine with maniacal and homicidal determination he's exhibited so far, but will somehow try to "compromise and settle. ".

Is that the gist of your suggestion?

Considering the complete and utter absurdity of this proposal, may I ask (again!) what goddamn hold does a two-bit thug and murderer Putin hold over you and your rightwing comrades?.

The stupidity of the MAGA crowd is unbelievable. But the Orange Buffoon often stated that he liked his voters dumber than a box of rocks.

[EihTooms]

TrumpShit and Rudy should share a cell.

I've heard Rudy is dodging giving testimony under oath because he'll have to reveal what Trump told him was the real reason he encited and led that violent January 6, 2021 attack on America.

Yep, it was because Trump "smelled weakness" on the President of the United States at the time.

Same as always with these things.

[EihTooms]

Nope, you are making up your own definitions. If someone missed the "market top", they can mean anything based on what kind of bet they are making. If I am short and say "I missed the market top" that means I think the stock is going lower and I missed shorting it at a higher price.

If someone is long and says "I missed the market top" that to me means they should have sold at the higher price.

So according to your rule, if a stock goes higher, it HAS to keep hitting higher and higher highs which sounds like you are doing technical analysis, and you do not have a clue what real due diligence and fundamental analysis is.

If you have not noticed, you have been getting your ass kicked money wise since this discussion has been going on. So by all means, comfort yourself with that stupid arrogance because you are going to be so poor, that is all you are going to have...

Regardless what the "market top" or "market bottom" means to a trader who wanted to do something at those points, the fact that he said perhaps a half dozen of times by now that he missed it because of "lack of due diligence" available or done means he didn't "think it was going to go up or down" at those points.

That is the blissfully obvious concept you have failed to grasp over and over again no matter how you monkey with the idea of what a "top" or "bottom" might mean to 100 different investors or 100,000 of them.

And I have only barely touched on your apparent total lack of understanding the difference between a speculator, trader or gambler and a long term investor.

Please open your notebook to page 2:

A long term investor is not looking to move holdings in, out, in, out, etc of the market on the prospect of a potential Correction on the horizon.

But, as Buffet's famous bet proved conclusively, a long term investor who buys into a broadly based Index fund tracking, say, the S&P 500, rain or shine, high or low, through thick or thin, will kick the ass of virtually every professionally managed portfolio of stocks after doing what you described over a 10 year period.

Long term investors are not keeping score and calling it a game, set, match after 5 months.

[ScatManDoo]

Rudy is helping the government these days.

Supplied them with a list of possible passwords for the numerous electronic devises seized from Rudy's home.

Rudy's testimony will sink TrumpShit.

Will Giuliani give up his former boss that is stiffing him?

Fuck, you could be all paid up with your attorney.

And still get screwed by him.

Rudy is in the toughest place imaginable for someone with an ugly 77 year-old ass.

He's being stiffed for most of the work he did in 2021.

He's been stripped of his bar license.

Dominion looks to be on the winning side of a 1.5 billion lawsuit.

He's the leader and creator of hundreds of false electors in seven states.

Something or someone's got to give.

And Rudy Giulian's looking like someone who can be turned.

In any direction for the best deal.

Everyone! Hold your noses! The stench is about to be released. This will not be pleasant.

For some.

TrumpShit and Rudy should share a cell.

[Xpartan]

More demagoguery please. Never give up.

In the 1930's, people like you were called Nazi-sympathizers. They lost, and so will you.

https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha...04/id/1068443/

Only 180 more days.

It's a good thing you didn't argue about that other thing. Although, why would you, LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

Is it possible that you still don't understand that when someone says they missed the market top for lack of due diligence that means that, by definition, they did not "think it is going down"?

Nope, you are making up your own definitions. If someone missed the "market top", they can mean anything based on what kind of bet they are making. If I am short and say "I missed the market top" that means I think the stock is going lower and I missed shorting it at a higher price.

If someone is long and says "I missed the market top" that to me means they should have sold at the higher price.

So according to your rule, if a stock goes higher, it HAS to keep hitting higher and higher highs which sounds like you are doing technical analysis, and you do not have a clue what real due diligence and fundamental analysis is.

Because if you are as blithering, lost and confused as coming to either of those conclusions would confirm you'd have to be to do so, then you can't be allowed to roam the streets on your own. You need 24/7 caretaker supervision.

If you have not noticed, you have been getting your ass kicked money wise since this discussion has been going on. So by all means, comfort yourself with that stupid arrogance because you are going to be so poor, that is all you are going to have.

Don't you know that XXEEGGRR means the stock market is going down? OMG, you are so stupid. I cannot believe you do not know that.

And while the S&P is down around 15% for the year, I am up 22% in 2 weeks. Now why is that? Aren't individuals not supposed to be able to beat the market?

Yeah, it must be dumb luck. It could not have anything to do with betting on the Fed wrecking the economy by unwinding the balance sheet and raising interest rates, and Biden is off blabbing about Ukraine instead of taking care of things back home.

And Ukraine / Russia produces 15% of the world's wheat and 40% of the world's fertilizer. Let me know how this stupid fucking war is not going to be inflationary.

You dumb Dems used the virus to bring Trump down and ruin the economy and guess what? Now the bill is coming due.