LilJoey vs Climaxnow, Uke Boy, Muddy7, Barba, et al.

[LilJoey]

Joey, you have a small brain

Ok, Muddy7, I apologize for also writing you have a small brain in one of my recent posts where I was trying to get through to you, by discussing the facts, and all you came back with was the same mindless comment about it bring ridiculous for someone to come to Kiev and frequent Rio because of the costs. You never responded to the actual facts and calculations I presented you with, and kept repeating the same incorrect thing in a manner that was designed to be offensive toward me. So in frustration I wrote that you had a small brain. If it will appease you, I apologize, since it is not my usual way to resort to that. Anyone can read my posts going back and forth on many points with Mohab, and know that I have an unusually great deal of patience in answering questions, because I Felt he was sincere in his desire to Know and was not merely wasting my time. You however, Muddy, were disrespectful to me, and that is a different matter.

I wish to conclude this idiotic and childish exchange of name.calling that you, Climaxnow, and The instigator of it all, Uke Boy, have been engaging in toward me. Even if you bear malice toward me, have mercy on the rest of the readership, else Many Will conclude that this thread is polluted by childishness and of no value to a real monger.

[LilJoey]

We tell the truth and you sell Rio. That about sums everything up.

No, Climaxnow, you falsely reported recently that one can NOT get DATY or BBBJ from girls at Rio. Here's the quote from you demonstrating you made this false statement:

I visited this place once a week for three weeks straight and never took a girl home. * * * I'm not a very experienced monger but I know that covered blow jobs and no DATY is basically not acceptable. Others will tell you that they "broke through the barrier" or YMMV but this is all straight bullshit when it comes to the girls in Rio nightclub. Here is why. Rio is a unique venue in Kiev where girls can prostitute themselves without any transmission of bodily fluid. If the girls were open to being better performers, most would not work here.

In the same post you admitted never having taken a girl from Rio.

Then you posted that you might go to Rio, implying you had never been.

Let's be clear on something, I have no problem with Rio. If I visit Kiev, I will probably visit this place.

No, Climaxnow, it is you who is the falsifier. You have not posted the truth.

Many members have gotten BBBJ as well as DATY from girls at Rio. I posted the truth about which girls did give either service and which girls did not give one or the other service. You report falsely. I reported the truth. Others like me who are honest have also posted the truth, that it depends on the girl, and it also depends on you and what the rapport between you and the girl is.

You have an agenda against Rio, together with Uke Boy, so you falsify and smear without compunction. You have no values? No honor? Shame on you. I have told the true facts of my experiences whether good or bad, in order to guide others and forewarn of issues to beware of. In your malice toward me, you have not behaved as an honest person. Of that you should be ashamed.

[Muddy7]

Joey, you have a small brain

[Climaxnow]

More name-calling? More mindless vitriol from you and your very sick mind. You contribute nothing to this forum and continuously spew malice and slander. You are destructive to this forum in more ways than just making false accusations and seeking to undermine valuable contributions to the forum. You do not relent in continuing the very childish name calling. You are boring the readership with this stupidity.

It is clear that you Uke Boy, and Climaxnow and Muddy7 are acting in tandem, each of the attacks by you three saying the same thing in quick succession, showing you are coordinating. Everyone can see it. Your futile point about the writing styles of the three of you being different, is just part of your effort to conceal your nefarious activities. Go ahead quickly erase all your PM's before the Administrator can see them, you buffoon. Do you think what you are doing is not obvious to everyone. You should slink away in shame for behaving so maliciously and destructively. Your actions are harmful to this forum by falsely impugning my posts which are legitimate, accurate and helpful to the newbies seeking information about ALL the options in Kiev.

I do wish the ADMINISTRATOR would check out that you are using multiple usernames and profiles on this forum, Uke Boy, Climaxnow and Muddy7. I don't know if it's possible to discover. But it doesn't really matter, because what is clear is that you three are in mindless lockstep in your assault on me, all 3 of you saying the same thing and obviously coordinated by one malicious mentality. No truly useful reporting. Just acrimony, fighting, disharmony. If ever there was a candidate for being banned from the forum by the Administrator, you are it.

LJ

We tell the truth and you sell Rio. That about sums everything up.

[LilJoey]

"little"," we now know who you really are. I agree, you are not a shill.

Rather, you are a troll who is about 12 years old since you behave like it. It is amazing that someone 50+ can still act and behave like an immature, rotten and spoiled child who has to have his way. I feel sorry for your very stunted emotional growth. It is amazing how hopelessly adolescent and ridiculous that someone as old as you can behave. At least we know your emotional age. I think you should seek professional help and right away.

If you are not 12 years old and you are 50+, then I believe your nick is appropriate. What is "little" in "Liljoey" is what is located between your ears and between your legs.

BTW, if you want Jackson to do an IP check and see if I am also as you baselessly and stupidly accuse me of being other posters, I welcome it. It will prove just how much of an emotional and brainless fool you really are. If you had any sense of how people write, and you simply do not because of your verbal vomit, you will see that there are very differing styles and approaches from very different people.

More name-calling? More mindless vitriol from you and your very sick mind. You contribute nothing to this forum and continuously spew malice and slander. You are destructive to this forum in more ways than just making false accusations and seeking to undermine valuable contributions to the forum. You do not relent in continuing the very childish name calling. You are boring the readership with this stupidity.

It is clear that you Uke Boy, and Climaxnow and Muddy7 are acting in tandem, each of the attacks by you three saying the same thing in quick succession, showing you are coordinating. Everyone can see it. Your futile point about the writing styles of the three of you being different, is just part of your effort to conceal your nefarious activities. Go ahead quickly erase all your PM's before the Administrator can see them, you buffoon. Do you think what you are doing is not obvious to everyone. You should slink away in shame for behaving so maliciously and destructively. Your actions are harmful to this forum by falsely impugning my posts which are legitimate, accurate and helpful to the newbies seeking information about ALL the options in Kiev.

I do wish the ADMINISTRATOR would check out that you are using multiple usernames and profiles on this forum, Uke Boy, Climaxnow and Muddy7. I don't know if it's possible to discover. But it doesn't really matter, because what is clear is that you three are in mindless lockstep in your assault on me, all 3 of you saying the same thing and obviously coordinated by one malicious mentality. No truly useful reporting. Just acrimony, fighting, disharmony. If ever there was a candidate for being banned from the forum by the Administrator, you are it.

LJ

[Uke Boy]

"Lil"," we now know who you really are. I agree, you are not a shill.

Rather, you are a troll who is about 12 years old since you behave like it. It is amazing that someone 50+ can still act and behave like an immature, rotten and spoiled child who has to have his way. I feel sorry for your very stunted emotional growth. It is amazing how hopelessly adolescent and ridiculous that someone as old as you can behave. At least we know your emotional age. I think you should seek professional help and right away.

If you are not 12 years old and you are 50+, then I believe your nick is appropriate. What is "little" in "Liljoey" is what is located between your ears and between your legs.

BTW, if you want Jackson to do an IP check and see if I am also as you baselessly and stupidly accuse me of being other posters, I welcome it. It will prove just how much of an emotional and brainless fool you really are. If you had any sense of how people write, and you simply do not because of your verbal vomit, you will see that there are very differing styles and approaches from very different people.

[LilJoey]

I know your type LJ. Your the well spoken person trying to pull a fast one. All businessmen fear guys like you.

C'mon already. It's tiresome. Why your negativity towards me exists, I cannot fathom. I have only posted true facts and good analysis for the members of the forum. You can't articulate the "fast one" you now accuse me of trying to pull, because there is none. I have laid all my cards on the table for everyone to see, and it is abundantly clear that I have and do only report the facts that I have experienced or have learned from a reliable source. And you have not articulated any issue with my conclusions or analysis either. What we are left with from you is the mindless name-calling from you. What's the point? Give it a rest.

[LilJoey]

I bet if a mod does an ip check he will see Joey has at least 4 user names here.

STUPID man

I invite the Administrator to please do a check if possible on Muddy7, Climaxnow and Uke Boy, which will show they are one and the same, as you can all plainly see the "in tandem" attacks spewing the same false allegations from each of them one after the other, showing they are coordinated by the same hand and orchestrated by the same person.

Give it a rest, already. Your name calling is so childish. If it helps, I apologize for calling you an idiot in one of my prior posts. I was simply exasperated over your refusal to listen to facts and your repetition of a false accusation. I'm sure you can understand my frustration with your own behavior in making such a false accusation. I generally try to be civil, even in a debate. But you weren't engaging me on facts to discuss them. You were just mindlessly repeating a false accusation like a robot. Hence my frustration. Now that I realize you and Uke Boy are one and the same poster, I understand what I was dealing with. But there's no need to tire everyone with repetition of the same falsehood again and again, which I will defend again and again. Believe me, Uke Boy, Climaxnow, Muddy7, I'm sure everyone gets it by now. You've made your accusation, groundless though it is. Perhaps we can move on? Maybe post something constructive with actual information for a change?

[Climaxnow]

I know your type LJ. Your the well spoken person trying to pull a fast one. All businessmen fear guys like you.

[LilJoey]

No. What you have actually done is skew the standard of real pricing in Kiev for newbies. You can present all your logical conclusions in charts, diagrams, yield curves but crap is crap.

I haven't skewed anything. The prices are what they are. All my posts regarding the options in Kiev report accurately the prices being asked, newbie and veteran alike.

Mamba. Ru and other websites have girls asking lower prices of even 400 UAH ($50) (although I hesitate to think of what such a girl looks like) , and 500 UAH. 600 UAH ($75) .800 UAH ($100) etc. These are low prices, but no guarantee what girl looks like, as pics are fake. Some guys have invested a lot of time and persistence, and claimed to have gotten a hottie eventually. It's worth trying during daytime mongering. Maybe one will luck out. The strip club prices are what TheKnight reported in past posts. Rio's prices are well known. The WG's in the nightclubs were consistently reported as having very high prices throughout 2011, the lowest being $300/2 hrs. Recently, this year there are reports of lower prices in the nightclubs for WG's and semi pros of $200/2hrs or more hours. Those are the facts.

Everyone wants to spend as little as they must on this hobby. Some guys have more time and linger visits. Some guys have shorter visits and less time. Each guy can choose the best approach that suits them and their time circumstance and their budget. Guys with lots of time in Kiev, or who simply enjoy the chase, may choose to go after freebies. Those who want the simplicity of p4p go after that. Those who don't like to spend go after the cheapest options possible, at the expense usually of the level of beauty or the hassle encountered using the fake picture websites with the cheaper prices. Those who don't mind spending more for a quality experience with a high level beauty and who have very little time in Kiev, choose the more direct route where you can see in advance what the girl looks like available at nightclubs or strip clubs, depending on where the best deal and lowest prices can be found. It used to be at River Palace, then it became Rio strip club. Now it's reported to have changed to become the regular nightclubs that have the lower prices for a very hot WG. These are the facts. Facts are not crap. Nothing is skewed. The prices are what they are, independent of what you or I want.

Maybe, give it a rest? Have mercy on the readership. I'm not going to allow distortions or falsehoods to remain unanswered, because that harms the forum to the extent it supplants truth with falsehood. If you want to debate a fact, or an opinion based on facts, or post new facts From your experiences, I'm all ears. But please give the childish name calling a rest.

[Muddy7]

I bet if a mod does an ip check he will see Joey has at least 4 user names here.

STUPID man

[Climaxnow]

I have no I'll will. You have posted a false and malicious accusation that I am shilling for a strip club. I am refuting you, because my recommendations are based on facts and I concluded that it was the least expensive option for such high level p4p where you can see the girl in advance, and it was the most efficient place to go to get a hottie into one's bed, even if it did cost a pretty penny. These are conclusions shared by many members of this forum. I am writing to refute your malicious and groundless accusations and to expose that you Climaxnow, Uke Boy, and Muddy7 are one and the same poster using multiple profiles to lend support to each other in posting the same malicious attacks.

Get a life. Grow up. You have been exposed.

My posts and the logical conclusions contained in them based on facts, stand for themselves.

No. What you have actually done is skew the standard of real pricing in Kiev for newbies. You can present all your logical conclusions in charts, diagrams, yield curves but crap is crap.

[LilJoey]

The more you post, the more obvious it becomes of your ill will.

I have no I'll will. You have posted a false and malicious accusation that I am shilling for a strip club. I am refuting you, because my recommendations are based on facts and I concluded that it was the least expensive option for such high level p4p where you can see the girl in advance, and it was the most efficient place to go to get a hottie into one's bed, even if it did cost a pretty penny. These are conclusions shared by many members of this forum. I am writing to refute your malicious and groundless accusations and to expose that you Climaxnow, Uke Boy, and Muddy7 are one and the same poster using multiple profiles to lend support to each other in posting the same malicious attacks.

Get a life. Grow up. You have been exposed.

My posts and the logical conclusions contained in them based on facts, stand for themselves.

[LilJoey]

Liljoey is a loser with different usernames, go find something better to do pal, only 4-5 posters read your garbage.

Any poster who keeps posting all these long posts about a joint is a loser or maybe just dumb.

Hey Joey, I'm thinking about sending a letter to Slava (admin) at RIO and let him what a poor job your are doing, maybe he can hire a smarter shill

Uke Boy, I am thanking you for posting the same thing under all three of your profile names, Uke Boy, Climaxnow and Muddy7, so that the readership can see how all three profiles post in tandem, in close proximity of time, saying the same thing and clearly orchestrated by the same hand.

You are a very bad and destructive person and wish to harm this forum.

Your last stupidity is almost worse than your attacks on me. Do you really think it is such a good idea to let outsiders know about this forum? There were guys like you, showing girls reviews on this forum about them posted by other mongers at the FKK's. What jerks. You don't show this stuff to the girls! It's an unwritten rule. Don't you have common sense? And you don't show it to the venues being reviewed either, for the same reason. I really don't think it's a good idea for anyone to let a club know about our forum. They might know about it anyways, as it's an open forum on the Internet. But I'm not sure we want to deliberately clue them in. I cautioned against this at the end of 2011 when I posted a list of girls at Rio who I thought were attractive enough to be worth taking a look at by other ISG'ers. In that post I cautioned that one should not let the managers know about there being a list of girls or a forum. The reason is that I'm not sure what their view of it might be. They might look at it as publicity, but they might prefer to keep a lower profile due to LE concerns. So better not to mention it, as it might lead to a situation where the mongers that go will be inhibited from making notes about the girls they meet, which is helpful in remembering who to ask for once they have disappeared from the stage.

Anyway, Uke Boy, Climaxnow, Muddy7, you are a destructive loose cannon. I have no control over you. I hope you will be judicious and use common sense. Although you haven't thus far in these posts.

[Climaxnow]

What's wrong Uke Boy? Have you forgotten what you posted under Climaxnow's name in his / your recent post? Climaxnow wrote explicitly he was in Rio once each week for three weeks in a row. Now you have Climaxnow writing that he will probably go to Rio when he visits Kiev, as if he hasn't been there before. You are contradicting yourself. I know it's hard to keep track of what you're writing under each of your profiles, Uke Boy. But it's obvious you goofed on this Climaxnow report you just posted.

Also anyone reading my posts, and especially my recent posts attempting to correct your false posts and shilling accusations, will have read the information and facts I reported and explanation of my conclusions and the reasons for my conclusions, which are logical. So they will know that I'm not misguiding anyone. Rather they will realize that it is you (Uke Boy, Climaxnow, and Muddy7) which are writing false things and are being destructive to the truth and this forum, and are attempting to misguide newbies.

The more you post, the more obvious it becomes of your ill will.