Hong Kong Club Reports

[ItsMeBeyatch]

I will try that.

Why are you using dollars for beers. The rate today at the border was 12. 90. The bars in the Zona have a 12 to 1 ratio rate. Pay everything in pesos, except the dollar bills for the girls.

[Fifty Shades]

Impressions of HK bar from my first two evening visits. My comparison is the European FKKs which are filled with naked women and typically have a central pole dance performance while the girls circulate and try to set up their dates. The girls circulate in HK bar, but it is more like a big carnival tent, with multiple acts going on in multiple locations. Everything is more over the top. A girl walked up to me, expressed milk into my beer, and then drank it, for example. That was a new one for me! Another girl danced with a lit cigarette in her pussy – that caused a few jaws to drop. Girls fucking themselves with beer bottles. I've never been to WG bars anywhere with the HK bar energy. But based on my limited experience, there is much less quality control over the HK girls' private performances. Both nights, the girls I took to the hotel were decent looking and friendly enough in the bar, but they had a 'let's get this over with' attitude once we were in the room, that turned me off. That wouldn't be tolerated by management in the better FKKs, and independent girls with that attitude would not be successful in most WG bars elsewhere. Also, neither girl would even consider BBBJ, even when I offered a big extra tip, but that is the first item on the menu of the FKKs and practically every other WG bar I've been to in other countries. Is this a cultural issue? Not speaking Spanish, I couldn't negotiate with a lot of girls to see if there were some that were more flexible. The refusal of BBBJs, the industrial strength condom provided by the hotel, and the rushed attitude all made it harder to get off. Others may have a better attitude, but based on my very limited experience, they may be hard to find for the non-regulars like myself. Maybe management doesn't care because they don't take a cut from the girls' money earned in the hotel. I had a beer in Adelitas to see what it was like, and the beers were cheaper, but it was much smaller and less lively than HK bar, and there were not as many good looking girls.

Both nights at HK bar, a stunning girl with long legs and short light colored hair gave a wild performance that went high up on the pole. Ended with her grabbing a beer from a guy at the table, pouring it on herself, and then sticking the bottle in her pussy. Would have liked to try her out. But both nights she disappeared upstairs (3rd floor) after the performance, not to be seen again. I saw another stunner grab a guy she knew and pulled him into the VIP area (Miami) , not to be seen again. Does the VIP card get you into a better part of the bar I might have missed? Does it have anything other than private rooms? Any tips on finding more enthusiastic company would be appreciated.

[HelpRules]

When I left Tijuana in the daytime, I saw the rate was much higher on the San Ysidro side. Are those places I saw, when I left on the bus, open when I arrive at San Ysidro at 4 to 6 am. Also, what place on the Cali side has the highest rate compare to the others.

[Artisttyp]

Why are you using dollars for beers. The rate today at the border was 12. 90. The bars in the Zona have a 12 to 1 ratio rate. Pay everything in pesos, except the dollar bills for the girls.

12. 90 is the ideal rate IMO. It's high enough to where you get a good deal but not so high to where people start panicking and raise prices. If you pay in pesos a SG will cost you a little less than $20 with room included. I should have extended my trip even longer.

[TomJackin]

My dollars are for the beer and $1 tip for the girls after I put my hands and fingers all over them.

Why are you using dollars for beers. The rate today at the border was 12. 90. The bars in the Zona have a 12 to 1 ratio rate. Pay everything in pesos, except the dollar bills for the girls.

[ItsMeBeyatch]

In pesos. Always in pesos and I mean always. My dollars are for the beer and $1 tip for the girls after I put my hands and fingers all over them. I negotiate and then play my game and say I only have pesos and I pay that plus I add $50 pesos to it.

$750 pesos in HK.

Adelitas $600 to $700 pesos sometimes $550 pesos.

Las chavellas $450 pesos to $500 pesos for 1 hr.

First of all, I ALWAYS negotiate.

At first I thought it was disrespectful, or somehow ruined the 'chemistry', then I started realizing that was all bullshit.

Now, I refuse to go up unless there has been some negotiation, and the girl has come down on her price. My reasoning is that if the puta is not willing to negotiate, she doesn't want to go up all that much, and the session / service will kind of suck.

Truthfully, my best sessions have been with cheap girls, and the girls that didn't budge off their price were mechanical or just not into it. I don't do that anymore.

In HK, my typical routine is to ask how much, they usually quote $70/$80, I talk them down to $60. My tactics to lower their price is to point out everything that is wrong with the day (usually wrks better on a slow weekday) such as there are not many people, business is slow, better to have $60 now than $0 for the night. After I get them to agree to $60, ill pay up to an extra $20 for any special services I'm interested for a total of $80. The extra $20 for special services is a 1-time fee. If I repeat w that girl, ill tell her I want the same service for $60.

I haven't had much luck getting lower than $60 in hk, but I haven't really tried too hard bc it seems that's kinda where the price equalizes.

Tropical and Chavellas negotiation is the same, except drop those prices about $10. $20.

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

[CleveRks]

In San Diego on a business trip and interested in Tijuana. I've RTFF and have a good sense of things, but would feel more comfortable traveling with a group of other mongers rather than alone.

Anyone headed down Saturday that would care to meet up?

[Maelstrom]

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

What always worked for me "I never go up more than $60" never never ask them how much. Just straight say Sesenta is what I do. I had 1 hot petite chick that was a regular dancer on the main stage quote me $100 I countered with $100 for 1 hour 2 pops.

There are so many hot working girls in there to try to even haggle for longer than 1 minute. Best Fucks for me have varied. I had a $80 chick 1 time was pornstar hot and fucked me like a pornstar. Reverse cowgirl, asian cowgirl, scissors, etc. DFK from the elevators to my room.

I couldn't pass her up and she ended up staying an hour with no knock.

Had $60 let me fuck 5 different positions + last one in the shower for a whole hour because I couldn't bust after a 2 blowing 2 loads just prior LOL! Ended up tipping her another $10 yeah I'm a cheap bastard.

[PimpinIt]

Elaborate please.

You got my attention there.

Usually involves chains and strap-ons, or getting kicked in the balls with zapatos de tacon. Jajaja

[RimmDigger]

. extra $20 for special services.

Elaborate please.

You got my attention there.

[RimmDigger]

First of all, I ALWAYS negotiate.

At first I thought it was disrespectful, or somehow ruined the 'chemistry', then I started realizing that was all bullshit.

Now, I refuse to go up unless there has been some negotiation, and the girl has come down on her price. My reasoning is that if the puta is not willing to negotiate, she doesn't want to go up all that much, and the session / service will kind of suck.

Truthfully, my best sessions have been with cheap girls, and the girls that didn't budge off their price were mechanical or just not into it. I don't do that anymore.

In HK, my typical routine is to ask how much, they usually quote $70/$80, I talk them down to $60. My tactics to lower their price is to point out everything that is wrong with the day (usually wrks better on a slow weekday) such as there are not many people, business is slow, better to have $60 now than $0 for the night. After I get them to agree to $60, ill pay up to an extra $20 for any special services I'm interested for a total of $80. The extra $20 for special services is a 1-time fee. If I repeat w that girl, ill tell her I want the same service for $60.

I haven't had much luck getting lower than $60 in hk, but I haven't really tried too hard bc it seems that's kinda where the price equalizes.

Tropical and Chavellas negotiation is the same, except drop those prices about $10. $20.

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

That's easy!

You tell them: "Baby, I am going to pay you 600 pesos, and just as bonus for you, I'm willing to thumb you up the *ss."

It is a proposal they can't refuse! They love it!

Es más! I will try it right now! (reporting from the insides.)

[PimpinIt]

First of all, I ALWAYS negotiate.

At first I thought it was disrespectful, or somehow ruined the 'chemistry', then I started realizing that was all bullshit.

Now, I refuse to go up unless there has been some negotiation, and the girl has come down on her price. My reasoning is that if the puta is not willing to negotiate, she doesn't want to go up all that much, and the session / service will kind of suck.

Truthfully, my best sessions have been with cheap girls, and the girls that didn't budge off their price were mechanical or just not into it. I don't do that anymore.

In HK, my typical routine is to ask how much, they usually quote $70/$80, I talk them down to $60. My tactics to lower their price is to point out everything that is wrong with the day (usually wrks better on a slow weekday) such as there are not many people, business is slow, better to have $60 now than $0 for the night. After I get them to agree to $60, ill pay up to an extra $20 for any special services I'm interested for a total of $80. The extra $20 for special services is a 1-time fee. If I repeat w that girl, ill tell her I want the same service for $60.

I haven't had much luck getting lower than $60 in hk, but I haven't really tried too hard bc it seems that's kinda where the price equalizes.

Tropical and Chavellas negotiation is the same, except drop those prices about $10. $20.

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

[HelpRules]

Gentlemen,

I appreciate all of your feedback. I'll be damned if I am going to let this chick reem my bank account dry. Trying to find out if what she is saying is true. That they have to pay the owner of Hong Kong for not working on their day off. Personally, I think this is a bunch of BS but want to know for sure.

It really pisses me off that some old ass gringo actually forked out the money to buy all of this stuff for this chick. Fake boobs (which look awesome) , liposuction and new teeth) porcelain veneers. Probably some old ass fart that could never get an American chick so was willing to allow this biotch to take him to the cleaners. What the hell is wrong with these dudes

And then she dumped him. The funny thing is that she has a cell phone with a San Diego number. This dumb ass is probably still paying for her to have a cell phone. Sob.

#1 rule of mongering is have fun with the girls, but only pay them when you are with them. Never send money from out of town ever! They are not your girlfriend but can still be treated with respect, but not that kind of respect. There are plenty girls that will go to Rosarito with you for 200.00. Let's face it, how easy is that 200. Hang out by the beach, go to dinner and then have sex for more than most people make in a month.

[GolfSexRroll]

They don't have to pay anything by not showing up.

Trying to hang out with her out of work hours or on the real day off is a good test.

If I girl overquotes, just move on. There are a lot of girls. You can get good prices. The lowest I have paid is 400 pesos. For a hk girl.

Girls will always try to get as much as they can. If they can get 100 from you. They will expect 100 everytime. Not good for you.

We were with some awesome girl from Veracruz. She was quoting 100 to my friend. She agreed to go for "poquito dinero" (80). My friend decided it was too much. 10 minutes later, I was fucking that girl for 40 dls, on a VIP boot.

You set up the price. You need to be confident, and show no weakness or doubt to the putas. They can smell when you doubt, and take advantage of that.

When a girl tells me "80" I just laugh, and say: "sorry honey, but no. It's too much" they usually reply: " ha ha, ok. How much do you want to pay?"

Please remember. You are in control and you are the one that is calling the shots, not them.

All this I am mentioning. Its not guessing, its just plain and hard facts.

P. S. I should follow my own advices. I have got into a lot of issues by not doing it. I tend to be controlled by mean bitches. I have paid 100 also. I have been upstairs and paid, without fucking. I have fucked without paying. Every experience you will have is going to be unique. Try to enjoy them as much as you can.

This IS 100% correct. You and her SET the price. That will be your going rate. That is the way it rolls in the zona. Try to set a price on a weekday if possible. Establish what you want before you go up. Don't be shy. Business is business!

[Phordphan]

She has been calling me everyday telling me she wants to spend a Saturday in Rosarito. Here's the catch. Apparently, she told me in order for her to not have to work on her scheduled workday (Saturday) that I would have to pay the dueno (owner) $200 for the house and then another $200 for her as she would lose out for not working that day. I'm trying to figure out if she is telling me the truth or not as I have taken girls from Adelitas out before and they didn't have to pay the house a dime if they wanted to take a day off of work. Any information would be helpful. She is beautiful but I don't dig what appears to be her hustling my ass.

Obviously I don't know this chica. But things work differently at HK, so I've been told.

AB tends to treat the girls more like independent contractors, if Ms. IPhone can be believed. She always talks of being able to come and go from AB as she pleased.

However, HK has the girls (I assume all of them but I know many of them are) on payroll. They are employees, receive a small salary and are eligible for coverage by the Mexican Social Security. Being employees I can see where they would get grief for not showing up on a weekend. Now whether that would be $200 worth of grief, or not, I can't say.

As far as her earning $200 for an entire Saturday working, it's possible. Lots of business on a Saturday, but lots of competition. But a couple of arribas and a few drinks would certainly add up to $200. Most girls I've known, when asked how much they earn in a day, tend to tell you the very best day ever.

So, my guess is that she's exaggerating a bit on both counts. As the others have said, if it fits into your schedule ask her to Rosarito on her day off. If she likes you and doesn't have kids, then she will probably go for it.

However, if the girl has family here she may not be able to go on her day off. During working days they tend to have child care, etc, prearranged. On days off babysitters may not be available, she may have stuff to do around the house, etc.

To summarize, the amount seems high to everybody here. But don't give up just yet. Practice your negotiating skills.