Hong Kong Club Reports

[RikiMichaels4]

#1 rule of mongering is have fun with the girls, but only pay them when you are with them. Never send money from out of town ever! They are not your girlfriend but can still be treated with respect, but not that kind of respect. There are plenty girls that will go to Rosarito with you for 200.00. Let's face it, how easy is that 200. Hang out by the beach, go to dinner and then have sex for more than most people make in a month.

As I reported last week, met a good looking chica in Hong Kong (she is 34 but has a stunning face and body). She wanted to go with me to Rosarito yesterday (Saturday) but told me I would have to pay a $200 "House Fee" to not work on her scheduled workday. Then of course, she wanted me to pay on top of this as she would not make any money working. Well, here's the update.

She called me about 5 times last Friday. I am a gringo but speak pretty good Spanish. I told her in Spanish that she is full of crap about the house fee and I think she is just out to rob my gringo butt. Then I hung up. She called me back and told me that her job in Hong Kong is like working for any other company in Mexico. Apparently she pays into Social Security. The girls are required to get "permisos" to stay home from work which usually require a Dr. Note (believe it or not). She told me that she was getting over bronchitis earlier in the week and they let her off all week, including Saturday as she presented a Dr. Not. So, ok cool, she can go and not pay $200. I said ok let' go, but I don't want you to say a word about me giving you any money. She said ok.

So, I got down to Tijuana Friday and spent time in various clubs having a good time. First Tropical, then Adelitas, then Chavelas, then Hong Kong and ended up a Chavelas. I have found that Adelitas no longer has the quality of girls it used to have years ago. It has become a boring place. Interestingly enough, Chavelas and Tropical once in a while have some real hot looking women. I met an Asian girl in Tropical weeks ago that was a hot, sweet girl. Anyway, drank too much cerveza (2 for 1 at both Chavelas and Tropical) and ended up back at Ticuan with a major hang over.

I met my HK girl at 10am Saturday morning. Interestingly enough, she had her own car, a VW Passat (maybe 10 years old) that was a regalo (gift) from her previous viejito, in addition to her beautiful rack, lipo suctioned belly and porcelain veneers. Come to find out, her viejito is 72 years old. That figures (LOL).

To be honest, I was wary about even going with her, but I thought, what the hell. Let's have a good time down at Papas and Beers and enjoy a beautiful sunny day. So off we went. Her car ran pretty well and she looked sexier than hell in this tight, beautiful cropped top blouse. I love these blouses on big boobed women! She has an ass that looks like she should have paid for implants for, but believe it or not they are au natural (well, that's one piece of her body that is actually natural. I forgot to mention that she wears hair extensions (LOL).

We get to Rosarito and have lunch at a place called La Cazuela's. Close to Papas and Beers. We go to Papas and get a table over looking the beach. Order a cubeta (bucket of beers). I brought a big old cigar that she actually enjoyed smoking with me (nothing like a hot woman smoking a big cigar. A total turn on for me and some other gringos that thought it was pretty cool). So, we decide to go a sit up by the bar. I went to the restroom. When I came back, she had two dudes talking to her. I came and sat back down next to her thinking the dudes would eventually get it and leave. Well, they wouldn't! She told them that they need to go as she is sitting with me (she tells them I am her husband). But they still won't leave! I started getting really pissed and was ready to take some action myself. As I was about to put an end to their gawking and talking to her out of disrespect for me, one of them touches her breast! I grabbed the SOB by the collar and his friend restrained me from behind. The security guard comes over and kicks both of their asses out of the bar after my girl told him what this asshole did. After this, we decide to go back to Tijuana.

We get to Tijuana and she asks me if she can spend the night with me in the Ticuan. I say "of course." We go out to Tilly's restaurant and had dinner and danced to a pretty awesome live band (they play there every Saturday night. The lead guitar player if phenomenal). We go back to my room after I buy a 100mg Viagra pill. As always, the pill kicks in and I am as hard as a rock (don't buy the generic stuff as half the time it doesn't work and is never as potent as brand Viagra). She proceeds to take her clothes off and I could not believe that body. After four sessions, we go to bed at about 4am. Not once did she say a word about money. I gave her $200 for the day and wonderful evening.

[Maila]

I was at Hong Kong club last night. My second HK experience was not all that great primarily because the club was absolutely packed on Saturday night. I went in around 9 pm and perhaps stayed there till 10:30. Too many people in there. I don't smoke and there was too much smoke in there. It was so busy I wasn't harassed by HK waiters at all, ha!

Still a tons of girls dancing on the stages, which was nice.

The other thing is they had the $5 beer-cover. If I come back to HK, does that mean I have to pay that again? I thought I did, so I went out and didn't check back in afterwards. (AB on the other hand was quite nice!)

I might go back again today in the afternoon. I'll take the slimmer pickings in exchange for less crowd!

I find that I am still a bit unsure of what to actually do in the club, ha. I didn't really get the opportunity to sit with a girl and do mutual fondling and am not sure how many drinks I want to keep buying them (then again, it's just $5-7). Otherwise, the bar, seats, booths, were absolutely packed.

[Chris Long]

Impressions of HK bar from my first two evening visits. My comparison is the European FKKs which are filled with naked women and typically have a central pole dance performance while the girls circulate and try to set up their dates. The girls circulate in HK bar, but it is more like a big carnival tent, with multiple acts going on in multiple locations. Everything is more over the top. A girl walked up to me, expressed milk into my beer, and then drank it, for example. That was a new one for me! Another girl danced with a lit cigarette in her pussy – that caused a few jaws to drop. Girls fucking themselves with beer bottles. I've never been to WG bars anywhere with the HK bar energy. But based on my limited experience, there is much less quality control over the HK girls' private performances. Both nights, the girls I took to the hotel were decent looking and friendly enough in the bar, but they had a 'let's get this over with' attitude once we were in the room, that turned me off. That wouldn't be tolerated by management in the better FKKs, and independent girls with that attitude would not be successful in most WG bars elsewhere. Also, neither girl would even consider BBBJ, even when I offered a big extra tip, but that is the first item on the menu of the FKKs and practically every other WG bar I've been to in other countries. Is this a cultural issue? Not speaking Spanish, I couldn't negotiate with a lot of girls to see if there were some that were more flexible. The refusal of BBBJs, the industrial strength condom provided by the hotel, and the rushed attitude all made it harder to get off. Others may have a better attitude, but based on my very limited experience, they may be hard to find for the non-regulars like myself. Maybe management doesn't care because they don't take a cut from the girls' money earned in the hotel. I had a beer in Adelitas to see what it was like, and the beers were cheaper, but it was much smaller and less lively than HK bar, and there were not as many good looking girls..

So far from God and so close to the USA

The poor performance and covered everything is becuse of Mexico / Tijuana's close proximity to the USA and the very Bad influnce of the American sex scene requiring very thing to be covered and giving an unethusiastic performance. There are some stunners that will give BBBJ and a good performance once in the room. You didn't pay first did you? If so this may account for the lack of enthusiasm and limited service. Never pay first, all incintive to give a good performance goes out the window once they have the money. There are some that will give good BBBJ and good service in the room you just have to interview them first before you take them up.

Chris

[Phordphan]

Any tips on finding more enthusiastic company would be appreciated.

These boards are full of stories about gorgeous women providing less than stellar service. You're not the first to complain, nor will you be the last. The fact is the best looking women have a bazillion guys panting after them. There is no incentive to provide good service because if you don't like it the 50 guys behind you won't complain. Actually, that's the modus operandi of the HK club in general.

So, a tip on finding more enthusiastic company is easy. Set your sights on the ugly women. LOL. Not really. But the mid-tier girls almost always provide better experience than the top-tier girls. There are always exceptions, but I've found this to be generally true.

[ItsMeBeyatch]

I will try that.

Why are you using dollars for beers. The rate today at the border was 12. 90. The bars in the Zona have a 12 to 1 ratio rate. Pay everything in pesos, except the dollar bills for the girls.

[Fifty Shades]

Impressions of HK bar from my first two evening visits. My comparison is the European FKKs which are filled with naked women and typically have a central pole dance performance while the girls circulate and try to set up their dates. The girls circulate in HK bar, but it is more like a big carnival tent, with multiple acts going on in multiple locations. Everything is more over the top. A girl walked up to me, expressed milk into my beer, and then drank it, for example. That was a new one for me! Another girl danced with a lit cigarette in her pussy – that caused a few jaws to drop. Girls fucking themselves with beer bottles. I've never been to WG bars anywhere with the HK bar energy. But based on my limited experience, there is much less quality control over the HK girls' private performances. Both nights, the girls I took to the hotel were decent looking and friendly enough in the bar, but they had a 'let's get this over with' attitude once we were in the room, that turned me off. That wouldn't be tolerated by management in the better FKKs, and independent girls with that attitude would not be successful in most WG bars elsewhere. Also, neither girl would even consider BBBJ, even when I offered a big extra tip, but that is the first item on the menu of the FKKs and practically every other WG bar I've been to in other countries. Is this a cultural issue? Not speaking Spanish, I couldn't negotiate with a lot of girls to see if there were some that were more flexible. The refusal of BBBJs, the industrial strength condom provided by the hotel, and the rushed attitude all made it harder to get off. Others may have a better attitude, but based on my very limited experience, they may be hard to find for the non-regulars like myself. Maybe management doesn't care because they don't take a cut from the girls' money earned in the hotel. I had a beer in Adelitas to see what it was like, and the beers were cheaper, but it was much smaller and less lively than HK bar, and there were not as many good looking girls.

Both nights at HK bar, a stunning girl with long legs and short light colored hair gave a wild performance that went high up on the pole. Ended with her grabbing a beer from a guy at the table, pouring it on herself, and then sticking the bottle in her pussy. Would have liked to try her out. But both nights she disappeared upstairs (3rd floor) after the performance, not to be seen again. I saw another stunner grab a guy she knew and pulled him into the VIP area (Miami) , not to be seen again. Does the VIP card get you into a better part of the bar I might have missed? Does it have anything other than private rooms? Any tips on finding more enthusiastic company would be appreciated.

[HelpRules]

When I left Tijuana in the daytime, I saw the rate was much higher on the San Ysidro side. Are those places I saw, when I left on the bus, open when I arrive at San Ysidro at 4 to 6 am. Also, what place on the Cali side has the highest rate compare to the others.

[Artisttyp]

Why are you using dollars for beers. The rate today at the border was 12. 90. The bars in the Zona have a 12 to 1 ratio rate. Pay everything in pesos, except the dollar bills for the girls.

12. 90 is the ideal rate IMO. It's high enough to where you get a good deal but not so high to where people start panicking and raise prices. If you pay in pesos a SG will cost you a little less than $20 with room included. I should have extended my trip even longer.

[TomJackin]

My dollars are for the beer and $1 tip for the girls after I put my hands and fingers all over them.

Why are you using dollars for beers. The rate today at the border was 12. 90. The bars in the Zona have a 12 to 1 ratio rate. Pay everything in pesos, except the dollar bills for the girls.

[ItsMeBeyatch]

In pesos. Always in pesos and I mean always. My dollars are for the beer and $1 tip for the girls after I put my hands and fingers all over them. I negotiate and then play my game and say I only have pesos and I pay that plus I add $50 pesos to it.

$750 pesos in HK.

Adelitas $600 to $700 pesos sometimes $550 pesos.

Las chavellas $450 pesos to $500 pesos for 1 hr.

First of all, I ALWAYS negotiate.

At first I thought it was disrespectful, or somehow ruined the 'chemistry', then I started realizing that was all bullshit.

Now, I refuse to go up unless there has been some negotiation, and the girl has come down on her price. My reasoning is that if the puta is not willing to negotiate, she doesn't want to go up all that much, and the session / service will kind of suck.

Truthfully, my best sessions have been with cheap girls, and the girls that didn't budge off their price were mechanical or just not into it. I don't do that anymore.

In HK, my typical routine is to ask how much, they usually quote $70/$80, I talk them down to $60. My tactics to lower their price is to point out everything that is wrong with the day (usually wrks better on a slow weekday) such as there are not many people, business is slow, better to have $60 now than $0 for the night. After I get them to agree to $60, ill pay up to an extra $20 for any special services I'm interested for a total of $80. The extra $20 for special services is a 1-time fee. If I repeat w that girl, ill tell her I want the same service for $60.

I haven't had much luck getting lower than $60 in hk, but I haven't really tried too hard bc it seems that's kinda where the price equalizes.

Tropical and Chavellas negotiation is the same, except drop those prices about $10. $20.

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

[CleveRks]

In San Diego on a business trip and interested in Tijuana. I've RTFF and have a good sense of things, but would feel more comfortable traveling with a group of other mongers rather than alone.

Anyone headed down Saturday that would care to meet up?

[Maelstrom]

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

What always worked for me "I never go up more than $60" never never ask them how much. Just straight say Sesenta is what I do. I had 1 hot petite chick that was a regular dancer on the main stage quote me $100 I countered with $100 for 1 hour 2 pops.

There are so many hot working girls in there to try to even haggle for longer than 1 minute. Best Fucks for me have varied. I had a $80 chick 1 time was pornstar hot and fucked me like a pornstar. Reverse cowgirl, asian cowgirl, scissors, etc. DFK from the elevators to my room.

I couldn't pass her up and she ended up staying an hour with no knock.

Had $60 let me fuck 5 different positions + last one in the shower for a whole hour because I couldn't bust after a 2 blowing 2 loads just prior LOL! Ended up tipping her another $10 yeah I'm a cheap bastard.

[PimpinIt]

Elaborate please.

You got my attention there.

Usually involves chains and strap-ons, or getting kicked in the balls with zapatos de tacon. Jajaja

[RimmDigger]

. extra $20 for special services.

Elaborate please.

You got my attention there.

[RimmDigger]

First of all, I ALWAYS negotiate.

At first I thought it was disrespectful, or somehow ruined the 'chemistry', then I started realizing that was all bullshit.

Now, I refuse to go up unless there has been some negotiation, and the girl has come down on her price. My reasoning is that if the puta is not willing to negotiate, she doesn't want to go up all that much, and the session / service will kind of suck.

Truthfully, my best sessions have been with cheap girls, and the girls that didn't budge off their price were mechanical or just not into it. I don't do that anymore.

In HK, my typical routine is to ask how much, they usually quote $70/$80, I talk them down to $60. My tactics to lower their price is to point out everything that is wrong with the day (usually wrks better on a slow weekday) such as there are not many people, business is slow, better to have $60 now than $0 for the night. After I get them to agree to $60, ill pay up to an extra $20 for any special services I'm interested for a total of $80. The extra $20 for special services is a 1-time fee. If I repeat w that girl, ill tell her I want the same service for $60.

I haven't had much luck getting lower than $60 in hk, but I haven't really tried too hard bc it seems that's kinda where the price equalizes.

Tropical and Chavellas negotiation is the same, except drop those prices about $10. $20.

Wud be happy to hear all you oppinions, negotiation tactics, and pricing schemes.

That's easy!

You tell them: "Baby, I am going to pay you 600 pesos, and just as bonus for you, I'm willing to thumb you up the *ss."

It is a proposal they can't refuse! They love it!

Es más! I will try it right now! (reporting from the insides.)