Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Mursenary]

Japan need to make image, when many of our best cookers stop with Michelin, they don't need because they are famous all over the world. For me no comparison between Italy and Japan, you fall in love when you are in Italy.

This is hilarious. It's not even close that Japan is leaps and bounds above Italy in culinary arts. Want simple good food, sure Italy is great. For true culinary art, it's Japan 100 x.

[Mr Ho]

Hello from the UK! What is going on? We are at the peak. For two weeks we've had 700+ deaths per day (save one day below 500). You are right. We reacted too late, but the big difference between us and say Germany is the awful testing rates.

Announced today in UK. Social distancing measures until end of 2020. So I think the large number of UK guys going to FKKs from the UK (me included) are unlikely to be visiting at all in 2020 whenever they finally reopen. I suspect some will close for good due to the financial bite but hope the big clubs, Sharks, Oase, Artemis, Mainhattan and Palace survive for 2021!

Till end of this year? Well if so, UK economy will be destroyed even more than it was before and be ready for China to buy UK for cheap price.

China began to buy up Brent oil that is so low due to covid 19 crisis and failure of OPEC plus, namely Saudi and Russian government.

[Pessimist]

Hello from the UK! What is going on? We are at the peak. For two weeks we've had 700+ deaths per day (save one day below 500). You are right. We reacted too late, but the big difference between us and say Germany is the awful testing rates.

Announced today in UK. Social distancing measures until end of 2020. So I think the large number of UK guys going to FKKs from the UK (me included) are unlikely to be visiting at all in 2020 whenever they finally reopen. I suspect some will close for good due to the financial bite but hope the big clubs, Sharks, Oase, Artemis, Mainhattan and Palace survive for 2021!

Well, at least BoJo is going in the right direction if reacting late. Being on a death bed does wonders to attain Nirvana and enlightenment. In here, our bozo president has been in a rush to reopen. First, he threatened Churches will be full by Easter at a time when even Mr. Poly is following social distancing, LOL. Now, his sidekick in Georgia is reopening by this weekend. The Georgia governor is saying people in his state should follow appropriate social distancing while he is opening salons, tattoo parlors etc. Apparently, barbers and tattoo artists in the state of Georgia have hands longer than 6 feet.

For the last 3 to 4 weeks IHME has been forecasting UK will have the worst death tolls in Europe by the end of summer. At first, it didn't make sense, as at that time, Italy looked awful and yet IHME was saying UK death toll will be almost twice as much as Italy toll. Now, it seems UK indeed did screw up, but then again, we are numero uno in global death tolls. Our latest attempt to make our country great again.

[The Cane]

I suspect some will close for good due to the financial bite but hope the big clubs, Sharks, Oase, Artemis, Mainhattan and Palace survive for 2021!

Also hope FKK Atmos and FKK Babylon Hamburg make it. I too look to return in 2021, but won't if we still have to do things like quarantine for 2 weeks upon arrival. In the meantime, no more pacing around and around and around the club for you Sir PayForIt LOLOLOL! Not until 2021, we hope!

[Mr Ho]

If only Italy had FKKs or brothels like in Germany, it would become my number one and regular destination for holidays. I go quite often there for work, and indeed it has a decent, relatively cheap incall scene, which I do enjoy (especially Florence in my experience). But if they only set up FKKs there.....

With their organization and problem with corruption and mafia, I do not think it will be possible and above all law has to be adjusted like Germany did before FKK to be open in Italy.

However, with Italy's financial difficulty before corona and now it is even worst, there could be some area to debate for such prostitution format to be open there, but I think Italy would go for Chinese easy money again, which world warned them about before corona, but they did not listen and look happen to Italy now.

It is sad because it is beautiful country.

[PayForIt]

the UKWhat the heck is going on over there!

Hello from the UK! What is going on? We are at the peak. For two weeks we've had 700+ deaths per day (save one day below 500). You are right. We reacted too late, but the big difference between us and say Germany is the awful testing rates.

Announced today in UK. Social distancing measures until end of 2020. So I think the large number of UK guys going to FKKs from the UK (me included) are unlikely to be visiting at all in 2020 whenever they finally reopen. I suspect some will close for good due to the financial bite but hope the big clubs, Sharks, Oase, Artemis, Mainhattan and Palace survive for 2021!

[Mursenary]

All that being said, we're about to reopen half of America in a pretty unrestrained fashion in comparison to Germany and Nordic countries and all hell might break loose. I can't and won't defend the actions of politicians though. I'm only defending the United States' response from a healthcare system perspective up until this peak where social distancing has been practiced, and the data have shown that we've comparatively done just fine despite sensationalized media coverage.

[Mursenary]

https://www.bbc.com/news/52311014

I don't care if you agree with me or not but someone in this forum might read your post and draw a asinine conclusion if they weren't presented with the fact that Europe has an older population and is more densely populated than the US.

All good but I keep just presenting data in the form of rates. Reading the BBC article, it just shows that countries like the UK are underestimating their rates since they are not counting nursing home rates which further makes my case. As opposed to the US where NYC recently added 3 thousand cases that were presumed COVID without a confirmed test.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...au-11586892250

Most importantly and constantly ignored by the population density proponents here. NYC's death rate sit at roughly 50-60% the rate of the 13+% death rate countries like UK, Italy, and France. NYC is more dense than any city or country in Europe and their death rate is the highest in the Us.

The only factor is that UK and France are testing at a lower rate so presumably healthy positives are not being discounted. But despite this, even if their testing were bumped up to match the rate of the United States, their death rates of 13% would still only be lowered enough to match NYC's if, proportionate to testing rate, every single extra test resulted as positive with no death.

Is the 2 year average age difference the only remaining argument here? You'the think that the fat / sick American comorbidities argument would counteract that.

[Sirioja]

When we see Florida beaches, people claiming against confined, just crazy, let's count how many thousands for the world record and how many unemployed. They think they are stronger than others. Only smokers seem not too infected, but old and fat are in danger.

[Sirioja]

If only Italy had FKKs or brothels like in Germany, it would become my number one and regular destination for holidays. I go quite often there for work, and indeed it has a decent, relatively cheap incall scene, which I do enjoy (especially Florence in my experience). But if they only set up FKKs there.....

For sure, no competition between Italy and Germany, for foods, for way of life, ask Germans who can afford, where they prefer to spend holidays, Germany would be empty. Until 2016, Milano and even sometimes Torino did worth for escorts with your dream girls, Amore Russo, Russian girls.

[DasBooty]

Definitely a factor. More? I disagree, but a factor yes. Worth noting that Germany and Italy have the same average age but complete opposite results though. So again, it's a factor but more? Doesn't seem so.

https://www.bbc.com/news/52311014

What's life like in western Germany? Apparently some services are now slowly opening up? Are more people out and about? Are people acting strange and scared?

It looks like Spain, France, Italy, Netherlands, UK, Belgium, Sweden, and UK are complete messes. No doubt because the first five had overly romanticized healthcare systems unable to respond to this disaster. UK and Sweden are probably doing poorly because they did too little too late.

Despite the media's portrayal of anecdotal and regional disasters, the mood in most of the US seems to be on an uptick. Some beaches are opening up. Some states are lifting stay-at-home orders while keeping social distancing measures in place. Cases and deaths have plateaued. Overall death rates are much much lower than than the previously exaggerated predictions. Death rates have settled at about 2.4% of those infected 0.01% of total population, much better than the 10% death rates of infected in those mentioned EU nations and the UK. What the heck is going on over there! Personally, I think the death numbers during this whole mess is exposing how weak some these western European societies really are. Respect to certain countries like Germany, Austria, and Norway for the discipline of their people, public health programs, and medical providers. The numbers show that the US, despite being lead by a fat monkey and a microscope where the world overly dramatizes our country, has shown that you don't need a romanticized utopia to respond to this disaster.

I don't care if you agree with me or not but someone in this forum might read your post and draw a asinine conclusion if they weren't presented with the fact that Europe has an older population and is more densely populated than the US.

[PunterWanderer]

Japan need to make image, when many of our best cookers stop with Michelin, they don't need because they are famous all over the world. For me no comparison between Italy and Japan, you fall in love when you are in Italy.

If only Italy had FKKs or brothels like in Germany, it would become my number one and regular destination for holidays. I go quite often there for work, and indeed it has a decent, relatively cheap incall scene, which I do enjoy (especially Florence in my experience). But if they only set up FKKs there.....

[Mr Ho]

Well Mr Ho, it depends from the list you take.

If you look at the one by the World Health Organization (and not by an unknown British think tank) such list is quite different and has France and Italy at the top.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...-in-the-world/

My points are that such lists are rather arbitrary and even the best Healthcare System is not planned to sustain extreme situations.

WHO? You mean CHO, chinese health organization.

American accusation to WHO is accurate, WHO is basically bought by China, the head of WHO is ethiopian guy and he used to be health minister back in Ethiopia which is bought by China, so you see the link? The accusation by USA government to WHO is accurate, WHO is so corrupt to the level nation can pay them to say false thing, just like at the beginning of this corona case, WHO claimed based on chinese report that covid 19 is not contagious from human to human, WHO is that corrupt to the extent if one listen to them seriously it shows ones educational level. There are more insane thing WHO said based on chinese reports which were ridiculously false, which they still claim WHO and China handle this properly, if you believe that it is your thing, but WHO is the last thing I would trust.

And WHO put Italy as top nation for medical? Look at the death rates with covid 19. Each nation has things that they are good at, Italy is good at making well designed sport cars with not reliable engineering, best tailoring especially from napoli, only tailoring that can match napoli tailor is saville row london, and south of Italy has amazing food that only France and Japan can compete and also spain too to some extent. So here is also one thing that is wrong with WHO.

Top medical nations are some european nations, Japan and usa. And sadly even then some nations do better than others, but it won't save you from corona, yesterday we just lost former ceo of omron, one of biggest medical company in the world. So one thing that is right is covid 19 do not discriminate and only medicine we got so far is avigan made by fuji film Japan for mild symptom, this was orginally made for bird flu and there is also one from american pharma, the medicine originally made for ebora that seems to be working.

[Mr Ho]

Tokyo alone has 4 times the number of restaurants in Paris.

So what, we got 4 times better restaurants than Paris.

[Mr Ho]

Mr Ho, don't you know that when an outsider beats you at your game, using your own measuring stick, you have the option to declare that measuring stick invalid and ignoring the results. What I enjoy about Japanese Mechelin Star chefs is that they often perfect foods from around the world, not only seeing Japanese cuisine as the only option. Amazingly, if you look around the Sauna Club scene, you may see a Star chef who enjoys dining at the why.

Yeah, we even has Japanese chef in Paris making French cuisine owning Michelin stars, we got the best chefs in the world.