St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Seymore Butts]

Long time visitor to SXM. Planned on cashing in some miles and venturing down in October. The property that I usually stay at (along with another fellow member to this site), was originally set to reopen this fall. Now, the owner has pushed the opening back to 2019, due to the devastating damage the island suffered. Clubs are open, but is the island still somewhat of a war zone, for those that have recently visited? I stay in Oyster Pond. Gives me good access to Orient Beach during the day. Clubs down the hill, and then late night fun at Sunset and Casa Blanca. I love the ability to club hop and potentially have a sweetheart at every venue, without having to worry about drama. However, if the island is still in pretty bad shape, I may opt out and head to Curacao and cross Campo off my bucket list. Any general observations about the island's infrastructure from recent visitors would be greatly appreciated. I. e. How beat up is Orient Beach? I know the clubs are open. And I'm a seasoned vet that goes back to the days of the original Seaman's Club where El Capitan now resides! And for some real nostalgia. Sunset Retreat, which isn't mentioned much here because it's off the beaten path, was also known as the Border Bar!

Just got a report in that Bikini Beach Bar is open on Orient, but not much else. There are wave runners, parasail and other beach activities including umbrellas and chairs but the food and rest rooms are few. Most restaurants are back up and running. I was there last October and all but LE Petite Chateau were open. Maho casino is suppose to reopen soon, which leaves Starzs still closed in Cupecoy. Crime is up a little because so many hotel workers do not have a place to work but I had no issues when I was there. Also, some of the workers are free lancing in Simpson Bay waiting for their jobs to come back. I'll be there last week in Oct for an extended stay.

Seymore.

[Quagmire1974]

Long time visitor to SXM. But is the island still somewhat of a war zone, for those that have recently visited? I stay in Oyster Pond. Gives me good access to Orient Beach during the day. How beat up is Orient Beach?

Head over to TripAdvisor and take a look at the SXM forum on that website. Many people (expats and frequent visitors) have been posting hyper-specific information regarding the recovery of the island since the hurricane, with frequent name-dropping of hotels, restaurants, and bars / clubs in many threads of that forum. I'm not sure how much progress has been made at Orient Beach, but I do remember seeing pictures months ago of heavy damage at Club Orient. Depending on what you discover on TripAdvisor, Campo on Curacao might be the way to go.

[ClubTed]

Long time visitor to SXM. Planned on cashing in some miles and venturing down in October. The property that I usually stay at (along with another fellow member to this site), was originally set to reopen this fall. Now, the owner has pushed the opening back to 2019, due to the devastating damage the island suffered. Clubs are open, but is the island still somewhat of a war zone, for those that have recently visited? I stay in Oyster Pond. Gives me good access to Orient Beach during the day. Clubs down the hill, and then late night fun at Sunset and Casa Blanca. I love the ability to club hop and potentially have a sweetheart at every venue, without having to worry about drama. However, if the island is still in pretty bad shape, I may opt out and head to Curacao and cross Campo off my bucket list. Any general observations about the island's infrastructure from recent visitors would be greatly appreciated. I. e. How beat up is Orient Beach? I know the clubs are open. And I'm a seasoned vet that goes back to the days of the original Seaman's Club where El Capitan now resides! And for some real nostalgia. Sunset Retreat, which isn't mentioned much here because it's off the beaten path, was also known as the Border Bar!

[Ath Trainer]

I happen to love Campo in Curacao. However it is low season and I do not know what the chicas are like at this time of year. The latest I have ever been there is this time of year and I did find an astounding spinner I spent a week with her.

She was so good I returned to see her in Campo and then in season I flew to Aruba (a shit hole) twice.

I now see her in Bogota.

However, I just don't know what the selection would be like, I would take a chance, but it might be disappointing.

Mel.

I've always gone in July. Still plenty of chicas, all shapes and sizes. What I like was the cheap starting price. If a girls a dud, bail out and find another.

[Mel365]

I happen to love Campo in Curacao. However it is low season and I do not know what the chicas are like at this time of year. The latest I have ever been there is this time of year and I did find an astounding spinner I spent a week with her.

She was so good I returned to see her in Campo and then in season I flew to Aruba (a shit hole) twice.

I now see her in Bogota.

However, I just don't know what the selection would be like, I would take a chance, but it might be disappointing.

Mel.

[Ath Trainer]

Thanks for all the responses!

Medellin is top of my list for latin girls (I've been browsing this forum for 9 months) but I want to put that off until I can learn some decent Spanish. I think I'd have a lot better luck and fun if I can talk to the girls.

If there were 5 girls on SXM that I found attractive and fun I wouldn't mind just rotating them around for two weeks every day. As far as the strip clubs, can you meet some of these poor attitude girls and take them home? For how much?

I checked out Alexis in NY and she is $400 which is reasonable in NY considering the hot ones I see on the sites are $500+. I am unwilling to pay that amount because I generally only need about 20 minutes with a girl and then I'm out.

Montreal was a great recommendation and one I never considered. The prices are about right and the girls are of good quality. I want to be able to pay around $150 or less which is why SXM and FKKs with the 60/ hh price is ideal. For that price in SXM I can lower my standards a bit and can take
a girl that has a little more meat.

The other option is Germany where I shouldn't have much trouble finding what I like and getting DFK as well for a reasonable price.

I'm really not a big tourist so I like SXM for the beach and food and playing some tennis. The other places might bore me a bit unless the girls are so hot and cheap that I can entertain myself trying to find the sexiest women.


As of this moment I don't know where to go anymore. Maybe leaning towards Germany and saving Medellin for another time. If it's going to be a struggle to find what I want in SXM it's not worth going. I'm not really a beach person anyway.

If you go to Medellin, you need spanish.

SXM you can speak english. In the clubs, a little spanish or google translate is all you need. You should find a roration of 5 girls there.

Germany, etc the clubs would interest me, but not the other. Going by myself, you give me a beach, clubs at night food, I'm good.

Sxm prices are good and based on 20 to 30 minute sessions. What about curacao?

[Der Auslander]

I'm planning on taking my first trip ever for mongering and I'm about 75% sure I'm going to St. Martin. My other choice is Germany, but I'm not sure what else I would enjoy about that trip besides the clubs.

My advice would be Germany (Switzerland and / or Austria). 90% of the girls speak English fluently or at least to a good level. Most girls working in these clubs tend to be of Romanian origin but can be of a very high standard. The mega-clubs have excellent facilities and good enough food and it is therefore possible to spend a considerable amount of time in these clubs during any particular visit. In Germany the clubs to primarily consider are Oase and Sharks (near Frankfurt) and Artemis (in Berlin) but there are other clubs such as GoldenTime and LivingRoom (Dusseldorf) and World (Giessen), Colosseum (Augsburg / Munich), Paradise and Sakura (near Stuttgart). In Switzerland there is Globe and History (Zurich and Basel). In Austria there is GoldenTime (Vienna) and Welcum (near Villach).

Outside of Switzerland (which is more expensive), the cost of play is around Euro 100 to Euro 120 per hour. My advice would be to try and travel with a buddy or meet up with some other ISG members in the clubs. You can easily spend 12+ hours in any of these establishments (particularly the mega-clubs), enjoying the facilities as well as the ladies. All of the clubs mentioned above have websites, if you want to do some further research. The standard of girls in each club can vary from average looking to very high quality. Websites tend to give the impression that every girl looks like a Vogue Model which is not the case with the exception of Globe (in Zurich) where all of the girls are of a very high standard.

With regard to safety, the countries mentioned above are probably safer than the US, let alone any South American country.

My advice is to do some research and to buy full membership to ISG and use the Private Message system to ask questions and link up with some ISG Members. You wont get much play constantly asking questions in the open forums.

[SexMajik]

Thanks for all the responses!

Medellin is top of my list for latin girls (I've been browsing this forum for 9 months) but I want to put that off until I can learn some decent Spanish. I think I'd have a lot better luck and fun if I can talk to the girls.

If there were 5 girls on SXM that I found attractive and fun I wouldn't mind just rotating them around for two weeks every day. As far as the strip clubs, can you meet some of these poor attitude girls and take them home? For how much?

I checked out Alexis in NY and she is $400 which is reasonable in NY considering the hot ones I see on the sites are $500+. I am unwilling to pay that amount because I generally only need about 20 minutes with a girl and then I'm out.

Montreal was a great recommendation and one I never considered. The prices are about right and the girls are of good quality. I want to be able to pay around $150 or less which is why SXM and FKKs with the 60/ hh price is ideal. For that price in SXM I can lower my standards a bit and can take a girl that has a little more meat.

The other option is Germany where I shouldn't have much trouble finding what I like and getting DFK as well for a reasonable price.

I'm really not a big tourist so I like SXM for the beach and food and playing some tennis. The other places might bore me a bit unless the girls are so hot and cheap that I can entertain myself trying to find the sexiest women.

As of this moment I don't know where to go anymore. Maybe leaning towards Germany and saving Medellin for another time. If it's going to be a struggle to find what I want in SXM it's not worth going. I'm not really a beach person anyway.

Sexmajik;.

You will be going to St Maarten in low season. Usually the spectacular chicas are on island at high season. I only like chicas that are thin and beautiful. Big butts are not my thing. I have always been out with spinners. Most quite beautiful. In fact last month I heard one of my ATF chicas was there. Angie--100% perfect. Tall with a phenomenal body and almost 6 pack abs.

I was sailing from Martinique to Puerto Rico and stopped for one day just to be with her. She was her usual spectacular sweet self. I always go with the chicas in the clubs a few times before I invite them out for the evening.

[Balboa]

I would have to disagree with you about a gringo going to the clubs in Medellin as you did.

At this time with the election next week I would definitely not send a gringo to Medellin.

I have an apartment there and go there frequently.

Lets face it you are not going to get a Mansion chica for 50 dollars. In addition the chica in the photo is not what.

SexMajik was looking for. She has big glutos (ass) and he specifically wanted a thin Paisa.

The chica is not what I would select either. Attached is a nice chica- not the one I was referring to in my previous post but very dooable.

I think for a non Spanish speaker cruising the bars without a wing-man could be a problem.

I think SXM is a better starting spot for Latina mongers.

Mel.

And I will totally disagree with you.

He would meet much better looking and thinner Paisas at the Mansion than SXM.

Plus he'd meet guys there to show him around other venues in the city.

He doesn't have to cruise the bars alone.

I've been in Medellin for almost 20 years.

The election will have little or no affect on mongering or most anything.

I would never choose the girl you posted a pic of, not attractive at all to me.

But whatever, send him to SXM and he'll see almost all big hipped Colombian girls.

Medellin IMO, is way better than SXM for mongering.

[Mel365]

I would have to disagree with you about a gringo going to the clubs in Medellin as you did.

At this time with the election next week I would definitely not send a gringo to Medellin.

I have an apartment there and go there frequently.

Lets face it you are not going to get a Mansion chica for 50 dollars. In addition the chica in the photo is not what.

SexMajik was looking for. She has big glutos (ass) and he specifically wanted a thin Paisa.

The chica is not what I would select either. Attached is a nice chica- not the one I was referring to in my previous post but very dooable.

I think for a non Spanish speaker cruising the bars without a wing-man could be a problem.

I think SXM is a better starting spot for Latina mongers.

Mel.

[Balboa]

I'm planning on taking my first trip ever for mongering and I'm about 75% sure I'm going to St. Martin. My other choice is Germany, but I'm not sure what else I would enjoy about that trip besides the clubs.

My concern with the island is that the SA girls there may not be to my taste. I am not at all attracted to women with wide hips and large rear ends. I like slim to medium sized European types, though I do like dark hair and dark skin too. I'm fairly confident that I'll find what I like in St. Martin, but just want to make sure.

If anyone has experience with both destinations, maybe you can help with my decision. I don't speak any Spanish but I suppose I could try and learn some a few weeks in advance. The DR is also a good choice for mongering and vacationing but I think I'd want to have some Spanish abilities to enjoy my time with women there.

My only other experience with P2P is in New York, and it totally sucks. I can't wait to go to one of these places and spend money without any regrets.

Thanks in advance.

My advice is no no no.

SXM can be fun of course, the sun and sea as someone said earlier.

The mongering is a side show.

I just left there as a matter of fact, mostly bigger girls, very predominant.

I'm in Medellin, Colombia now.

It's great!!

I suggest you get online, look up the Medellin Mansion.

They cater to newbies.

Read about them in Medellin thread.

Or read up on Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.

Another great mongering spot.

Don't get me wrong, SXM is fun, but the mongering is nowhere near as good as other spots, and way more expensive, especially if you like takeout.

As an example, I met this girl at a club today in the afternoon, in Medellin.

$10 fine to get her out of the club, $50 to her and we spent all day together.

And I was even being generous.

Not going to happen like that in SXM.

[Mel365]

Sexmajik;.

You will be going to St Maarten in low season. Usually the spectacular chicas are on island at high season. I only like chicas that are thin and beautiful. Big butts are not my thing. I have always been out with spinners. Most quite beautiful. In fact last month I heard one of my ATF chicas was there. Angie--100% perfect. Tall with a phenomenal body and almost 6 pack abs.

I was sailing from Martinique to Puerto Rico and stopped for one day just to be with her. She was her usual spectacular sweet self. I always go with the chicas in the clubs a few times before I invite them out for the evening.

Do not get your hopes up for an evening of debauchery. You will probably have sex twice in the night and once in the day. I just take them out because I like their company, as I have already checked them out in the clubs. I think you should give St Maarten a try. I find that the 10 rated ones are usually a starfish in bed. ANgie and others are the exceptions. I have a much better time with 8's and 9's.

I am also from NY. What is your problem here?

There are so many HOT European looking ladies up here. If you like a tall (about 6 feet+ in heels, slender, model type lady with a great boobs and body--google Alexis Cain escort, or her roommate Gina Rollins Escort. Gina is the most prolific chica in the USA according to *** when it was running. Send me a pm- possibly we can swap names.

Look way back in the reports of distinction, I used to post photos from SXM.

Mel.

[Lucky Strike]

I'm planning on taking my first trip ever for mongering and I'm about 75% sure I'm going to St. Martin.
Thanks in advance.

SexMajik, IMHO, if go to SXM for the sun, the sea, good food, and some mongering (in that order) - sure, by all means. But if your #1, #2 and #3 priorities are mongering with euro-type chicks, you might wan to reconsider.

Will there be spinner type european chicks? Sure, but most likely you'll see them in 2 strip clubs where prices are higher and attitudes are worse than in NYC. Sure, there have been reports on this site of gents taking them out for a full night, or full day for a very reasonable price and had very good time. Or took them even for a 1-2 hour to a hotel before their shift at the club starts. Didn't happen to me, in any of my 50+ weeks spent there over 15 years. I guess it depends on your "game".

Suggestion: in you're stuck in NYC, try Canada. USD goes a long way there, and if you do some internet research you can find providers with great attitude.

Have fun!

[SexMajik]

I'm planning on taking my first trip ever for mongering and I'm about 75% sure I'm going to St. Martin. My other choice is Germany, but I'm not sure what else I would enjoy about that trip besides the clubs.

My concern with the island is that the SA girls there may not be to my taste. I am not at all attracted to women with wide hips and large rear ends. I like slim to medium sized European types, though I do like dark hair and dark skin too. I'm fairly confident that I'll find what I like in St. Martin, but just want to make sure.

If anyone has experience with both destinations, maybe you can help with my decision. I don't speak any Spanish but I suppose I could try and learn some a few weeks in advance. The DR is also a good choice for mongering and vacationing but I think I'd want to have some Spanish abilities to enjoy my time with women there.

My only other experience with P2P is in New York, and it totally sucks. I can't wait to go to one of these places and spend money without any regrets.

Thanks in advance.

[DennisMP]

Just returned from SXM after a 10 day visit. Progress slow and still ongoing with cleanup and restoration, French side seems like they have no interest in doing anything anytime soon. Having said that all of our favorite mongering spots are and were in full swing with the Carnivale finale. As my visit in March proved to be very pleasing at Defiance I went there my first night and met with Michele and Daniella. Michele has been reported on here before and remains to be the number 1 girl there IMO, I let my wingman take her for a ride and he was not disappointed. I chose Daniella a petite spinner from Cali, smaller breasts, cute face and smile, looked nice dressed up. I say looked nice dressed up because unwrapped was a different story, when she was slow to remove her panties until she was ready to get on top I knew one of 2 things were coming, either I was going to have to bushwack my way through or she had some ugly scar she was hiding, thank god no hair but as expected her cesarean scar was horrible, thick purple keloid scar that went from hip to hip, the village witch doctor that did this should be hung. She was undaunted and provided a great service and I enjoyed talking with her.

There didn't appear to be any other girls there that caught my attention so the following night I went to Carolinas which has always been my favorite spot. I was nearly overwhelmed by what I saw, at least 15 girls and over half of them were absolute smoke shows! As a result my wingman and I returned every single night for a week. Just to be clear I been to Carolinas probably 100 times and my wingman is a local who has an untold number of visits and we both concur the lineup there is the best it has ever been. So if you're in the area get here while it lasts as they'll cycle out in a couple months. Top of the list are Marta. Blonde bombshell with big bolt ONS, you can't miss her. Catalina. Older of girls there at 35, nice rack, slim rear end. Jessica. Short spinner, jacked body, right side arm and leg tattoos. Tatiana (not to be confused with the dark Tatiana who is still there) gorgeous slender face, big butt, bolt ONS. And if you want the party of your life with an absolutely crazy chick grab Patricia. Michelle Rodriguez lookalike who will screw your brains out. Paola. A very pretty slender Colombiana with long dark hair without providing details provided service rare in the business. I also took Lilly one night as I've been with her before and she and I simply click. She is the plain Jane of them all and doesn't draw much attention. On the beware side I DO NOT recommend one girl. Viviana. A young very petite spinner that is eye catching and the sole reason for my decision, was absolutely the worst experience I've ever had at Carolinas.

I normally don't and didn't venture to any of the other spots. Crystals is open as well El Capitan appeared to be. Elsewhere on the island Platinum Room has a great cast of characters and we went there often as we have a few girls there who on their free time will join us at the beach or come out for a few drinks, its nice to parade around with them. At the Red Piano I noticed a couple of the local girls are still free lancing.

So that's the short version, keep in mind YMMV and the girls come and go every few months.