Budapest

[Winco]

Also available for escort in Budapest only the following pornstars:

Britney
Kitty Cat
Aliz/Liz
Natalie Colt
Aleksa Diamond AKA Aleska Diamond
Jeny Baby
Nesty/Aletta

3 hours booking minimum,1000 Euro.Complete service included(cof and anal).

[Gamma Ray 007]

JM wasn't my first choice, but the Massage Trio group mentioned by Ibn Buttita answered their phone without a lick of English. I had been corresponding with the Massage Angels for over a month trying to nail down an appointment--they always said "Call a few hours early on same day." So my plane touched down, I called 10 minutes later, and "So sorry! Maybe tomorrow?" Of course, by noon I'll be back on the plane! So Japan Massage it was.

I had managed to get a good address on them, (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...425ca5e9eabce2) I made an appointment, and was met at the top of FIVE long flights of stairs by Dama and another cute young thing. They showed me the book of cuties, and they were all so nice I just went with Dama as she was right there, spoke some English, and wasn't shy (she flashed me her shaved pussy to prove it).

I had a solo shower, and we moved into a nice room--all red--with candles and Japanese items around. Dama stripped off her mini-robe and launched into a full-on massage. I let her do the legs, but then I suggest that I could massage her for a while. She liked the sensual aspects, but made it clear that touching her pussy was off-limits. I did all I could to make her change her mind, but nothing doing! We had a nice time of posing, and I admired her slight form but genuinely lovely pussy. Eventually we moved into an outstanding HJ and I swear I messed up a the sheet in four places when I came.

Dama wasn't a clock watcher, so we chilled and I continued to admire her, chatted as much as we could, and eventually I took another shower and departed in a taxi. I've been using MB Elit taxi at +36-1-412-0-412 and have been very pleased.

Total damage was Fl. 24,000--they even gave me a receipt which I will promptly destroy.

I'll sleep well tonight!

[Winco]

Can I ask you if they work for any agency? which one and what about the rates and the services? I'm arriving to Budapest in 2 weeks.

Thanks

DC

No. This is not an agency. It's a very different than agencies and things are mich more friendlier/relaxed(in terms of services) and exclusive(in therms of the girls who are on offer). Miniimum booking is 3 hours with complete service(cof and anal) and the price is 1000 Euro. The only exception is superstar Simony Diamond(she also offers complete service: cof and anal) and for her minumum booking is 5 hours and price is 2000 Euro. If you're really serious sms me (send me a text message with your e-mail address) I'll tell you all the details that you need to know. However, since you're coming to Budapest in 2 weeks time it's IMPORTANT to tell me NOW which girl/s would you like to book so that things can be organized. Also, it's important to tell me the dates of your stay in Budapest and the dates WHEN will you like to be with the girl/s. Regards.

[Dr Clitorius]

Many beautiful Hungarian pornstars available for escort in Budapest. Here are just some of them: Simony Diamond, Jasmin Luna Gold, Debbie White, Nikki Blond, Nikki Rider, Angelica Heart, Kyra Black, Celine Black, Virginee and many more. If you're interested send me a private message for all tghe details.

Can I ask you if they work for any agency? which one and what about the rates and the services? I'm arriving to Budapest in 2 weeks.

Thanks

DC

[Winco]

Many beautiful Hungarian pornstars available for escort in Budapest. Here are just some of them: Simony Diamond, Jasmin Luna Gold, Debbie White, Nikki Blond, Nikki Rider, Angelica Heart, Kyra Black, Celine Black, Virginee and many more. If you're interested send me a private message for all tghe details.

This is serious and it's reality.

[Gregarious]

Hi guys

Just got back from Budapest after the Hungarian F1

I had read up on various "massage" establishments and seeing as Japan Massage was only a 5 minute walk from where I was stopping thought I would give it a go.

Went Friday evening around 10. 30pm, did not make an appointment, just rang the buzzer at the street door entrance to numerous apartments.

After a little broken English from them I was buzzed in. They are on the 4th floor and I was met by Lena (I think that was her name). You are advised of the prices and options etc. I went for the 60 minute fully naked massage with blow job finish. Cost 24000 Hu Feninks (around £75). You are able to pick the lady to massage you from a book of large A4 photos (assuming they are available) I actually choose Lena. I was led into the massage room, after taking my shoes off, undressed and had a shower. Then Lena proceeded to give me the best massage I have ever had, which was amazing. Lots of really forcefully but gentle manipulation using lots of oil or something similiar. At the end of the massage she started to arouse my little fella whilst I was still on my front and then eventually ahe asked me to turn over. She drizzled oil onto my little fella and started a very very slow hand job which then proceeded to oral withot condom. Eventually I came into her mouth and she swallowed the lot, and then proceeded to clean me up. Had a shower afterwards and paid and left one very happy man.

I repeated this again on the Monday dinner time around noon and this time choose a very petite Hungarian lady with enhanced breasts but I can't remember her name. Same procedure and her massage was if anything a little better than Lena's with the oral being a combination of hand job stroke oral with me partly cumming in her mouth and partly not.

I have to say that for £75 a time I thought the services were superb and if I could get the same somewhere around Sheffield I would be in heaven.

Simples

[Lexb]

Usually when the first post made and it is a request for information that requires detailed and involved answers, the other readers see it and just write "Everything your are looking for has been covered repeatedly in this thread so just scroll backwards and read or, as stated in the "Abbreviations" section(above), RTFF!

All I'm recommending you do it to go backwards five reports from yours and then six reports from yours and read the superb and current information written by Ibn Buttita!

This is the most detailed of the most current information available.

[Italianboy1980]

hello, everybody!

i'm an italian boy and the next august i will go in budapest with a friend. that will be our fisrt time in budapest, and we need some help!

we'll stay in karoly krt for 3 days, which are the places that we didn't miss?

i need to know the best strip club, the best peep show and the best massages centre(i know japanmassage)that there be near our hotel. so we can't lose!

i heard about jam disco, is it right? is it nice?

please help us, we want some fun with nice girls.

obviously we are not bill gates.!

thaks guys for all your help. bye!

[Gregarious]

Hi

Do any of you guys know if massage angels or indeed some other massage places provide:

Owo to completion

Possible full service

Does it depend on negotiations with the girls and cash inducements

I am in Budapest for the F1 if anyone else is around

Thanks

Greg

[Mattador]

I can just confirm this is another jewel in Budapest.
http://www.mymassageangels.com/

I've tried few girls there and was always satisfied. The best masseuse (Cindy) in terms of techniques seems not to be working there anymore. Lea is extremely good too, so is Brigi. Vivien need more practice, but is definitely a lovely girl. The manager speaks english although not all girls.
You need to pay an extra 4000 HUF for a fully naked massage. Add 5000 HUF for covered oral. The costs for extras seem to vary from girl to girl as I have been quoted and charged different prices each time, but always within reasonable 3000-5000 ranges.
The only downside is that they don't have lounge to wait in so if you are early or the previous client was late you need to wait outside.

Massage Parlors: My Massage Angels

I had a couple of hours before dinner one night so I tried to finally visit Massage Angels, which had always been at the top of my list for a visit due to good reviews on ISG and their awesome website. Traffic almost ruined my plan, though, as my taxi crawled from Pest to Buda due to bridge closures resulting from the high Danube waters. The parlor is on a street behind Buda castle in a small residential building – one of the most interesting outside locations for an MP, facing the old walls, and with suitably Asian-evocative rooms (but the shower room was down the hallway). I had called ahead to reserve a session with Brigi, and was happy with my choice as she easily lived up to the photos of her body on the website. She is easily the most hard-bodied girl I had ever been with, completely firm and toned all over, and a set of large but perfectly shaped fake tits, all tanned to perfection. As a bonus, she had a great face as well. She wore a g-string through throughout and would not allow me to pry underneath, but sucking her tits was fine. Her massage progressed from relaxing to very stimulating, using her breasts to body massage me. The finish was a covered but smooth BJ, and it was brought to a close by some gentle caressing My only regret was that I had to get back to my hotel and so had to reduce my session to half an hour. Total cost was about 16, 000 F.

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[Mattador]

This is my favorite place nowadays. It's a very well run establishment, very close to the Parliament. Very good service, and great value for money. The manager speaks english and can help you with your requests and questions. Photos are real.
Base massage that includes lingsam is 13000 HUF for 60 minutes, and 16000 HUF for 90 minutes. Four-hand massage goes for 30000 HUF for 90 minutes. Oral adds a 4000 HUF to the price, but not sure if all girls provide that. Anyway, you don't need the oral as the lingam massage is awesome.

http://www.pesti-masszazshaz.com/

[Sgent19]

Just found this, linked to a directory:

http://www.realescort.webs.com/

Hilarious! Photoshop Wall of Shame.

Check out the Zuzana and Adult Star subpages too.

[Ibn Buttita]

this is part two of my budapest trip report form early june. i described my massage parlor, peep show and strip club fun in my last post, so this one will detail my experiences with apartment girls and escorts.

apartment girls

i don't know if i ever saw such an overload of information on any one topic: the number of websites with advertising for girls available in private apartments for sex in budapest is staggering. in the end though, i think it's too much to go through, and ultimately, at least in my case, doesn't have sufficient payoff to put in the effort. i put together contact information on girls i was interested in from several sites: beszamolol. hu, szexmost. hu, redzone. hu (which had the best photographs), and szexxx. hu. all had photos and district location and contact telephone numbers listed, but the best was beszamolol. hu for the range of info provided, from basic stats like age and height, to fun facts ("favorite dessert"), and essential data like services available and languages spoken. many girls were listed in multiple sites. some of the sites are in english but others are in magyar only – using google translation or similar programs will not only help you decipher the sites, but also provide plenty of entertainment (if anyone tries the "mutual french roast" service translated from beszamolol. hu, let me know how it is!).

despite all the research i put in, results were rather dismal. i had only two instances where i contacted and actually met girls, and those were complicated issues, which you'll see below. many numbers did not work. some girls who were listed as speaking english (like barby on szexmost. hu and elsewhere) claimed they did not know english and refused to join me. some girls were not in; their roommates (invariably magyar-only speakers) answered the phone instead. i had two particularly annoying situations where i got in contact with a top girl, but was never able to get together with her. the first was viki on beszamolol. hu, a gorgeous blonde with the distinguishing feature of showing her face in her photos on the website, a rare situation. i called her a few times but her available time slots never matched mine, and at other times i just got her roommates; her rate was 25, 000 forints for an hour, "everything" included, though i did not get details. ultimately, my holiday just ran out and i never had the chance to get together with her and see if the photos matched the reality (her photos did look like real-life, in her apartment shots, not professional or photo-shopped images).

the other girl i got in touch with was petite and exotic looking vanessa from redzone. hu, who was reported on in glowing terms here on isg. i was able to call and contact vanessa on my first evening in budapest, and since i had some destinations to hit first (including a massage parlor before closing, palace strip club – i wanted to get worked up and then have a release), i set an appointment for 12:30am, at 15, 000 forints for an hour, plus an extra 3, 000 for kissing. when i arrived at the vicinity of her apartment and called as we had arranged, in order to get the exact address, her roommate answered and told me that she was already occupied; when i asked until when the roommate got rather rude, and i just gave up. repeated attempts to get contact vanessa again were unsuccessful. vanessa was also listed in budapest bunnies.com – i think my mistake was to avoid the escort agency (price listed was something like 120 euros an hour) to get her at a cheaper price freelance. this attempted cost-savings was my downfall, since i may have had better luck getting together with her with the agency as the intermediary.

bu as mentioned above i did meet and have sex with two apartment girls (sort of...). one of the sexier set of profile photos i saw were those for barbika on szexx. hu, which seemed well-produced but not stolen from another website. i got through one morning and arranged a late afternoon visit. i called to confirm before getting on the line 3 metro up to the gyongsi stop in district 13 (about 5 or 6 stops from the station near st. stephen's basilica) – a lot of apartment girls seem to live in this area. barbika asked if i could meet later, and when i said i could not come later, she said visit anyway – this should have been a warning sign to me that i would not get the girl i was looking for. at the gyongsi metro station i didn't know where to go, but when i called barbika a blonde with nice tits taking on a mobile phone came up to me, and told me she would walk to the apartment – warning two: who was this using barbika's phone? i got to the building and went up to the apartment, and was greeted not by the slender brunette in the photo, but a shorter, bustier, and chunkier girl, with long black hair: definitely not the "barbika" on the website. but she was wearing lingerie and looked cute in a girl-next-door way, plus my schedule was too tight to find an alternative encounter, so i decided to stay.

part of the appeal was her room: it was maybe the girliest room i've ever seen, all pink with ruffles and lace. i wonder if it was just her taste or the idea was to play into the "i'm fucking a teenager in her bedroom" fantasy that some porn sites play into with their sets. anyway, i enjoyed the fantasy, and the girl was in her early 20s and cute. her blowjob without condom was very soft and very satisfying, the sex with her on top and in missionary less interesting. there was kissing, but she seemed at times into it and at times distant. the biggest concern was the rather unpleasant smell of her crotch and some discharge i noticed – which i believe makes her the leading candidate for the source of the mild case of the clap i experienced after my trip. but at the time i enjoyed the experience, but playfully asked her real name as i left – she insisted on barbara! total cost was 15k for one hour.

one of the few apartment girl reviews i saw on the isg forum was for dorina. on her site she's described as 21 years old and pictured (face hidden, in an amateur-type picture) as a dark haired girl with a nice big pair of boobs. she was high on my target list and so was happy when i got through a couple of days later. i followed her directions up to gyongsi metro stop in district 13 and started to look for the street address given. i quickly realized that the building to which the directions were taking me was the same one where i had visited "barbika" the other day, i had a strange sense of déjà vu. when i called dorina for the apartment number and she described to me the same location as yesterday, i could only laugh and see what fate had in store for me – after all, i reasoned, it was possible "dorina" also worked out of this apartment. at first it seemed to be a horrible fate – the woman who opened the door was very unattractive and fat with close cropped hair. but she led me into the same bedroom as the previous visit and there – as you've long since guessed – was "dorina, " the same girl as before, wearing the same lingerie. only then did i make the connection, and realize that she really did fit the description if the dorina on the website. we both had a laugh (which almost turned to tears when the large woman offered a threesome!), and i embarked on round two with mystery girl. this time i opted for a half-hour (8k) session with blowjob only, and did finally get her to admit to her name being dorina (or was it?). this was the same day as my peep show experience with tamara two years later – so i had two very different reunions in one day!

escorts (independent)

on a recent romania trip i had my best experience with an escort listed on a website; that was part of my thinking in contacting an escort, but mostly it was practical – i was having such a difficult time contacting apartment girls that i looked for an easier way, and, well, the two i contacted actually answered the phone.

that was the easy part, with carmen of carmen4you.com. she was one of the best looking escorts on the websites for independent escorts i had seen – carmen's photos showed a tall brunette with a fine set of breasts. i contacted her and thought i had everything set up for her to visit my hotel room at midnight – it would be pricey at 130 euros an hour, but at least i would have company and a hottie at that. and so i waited for her to arrive. and waited... and waited. and despite a follow-up call i attempted (no answer) she never showed up, basically leaving me with a wasted night. i didn't bother to contact her again after this.

i did have an opening the next night, due to a series of communication failures with apartment girls; i just wanted to have something in place for the nighttime. i contacted vanessa of http://www.budapestescortgirl.com (not the petite vanessa mentioned above, whom i never met up with), who has her own site with images that impressed me, for her exotic face and views of her on balconies showcasing her body against a backdrop of beautiful budapest architecture. if only i had access the forum reports warning against her that have been posted in the last few days! but when she arrived, i was impressed with her body: tall, lean, with one of he most glorious asses i've ever experienced, and she arrived dressed in a slinky, sophisticated outfit. unfortunately, her claim of "real photos" on her website did not really reflect the photoshopping that gave her a much more youthful appearance.combined with a kind of husky voice, this simultaneously made the encounter somewhat more interesting but generally more disappointing for me, and this before she let me know that there would be no kissing. the best part of the sex was the doggystyle position where i got a fine view, but overall it was rushed and mechanical. it was not really worth the 36, 000 forints.

after these disappointments with apartment girls and escorts, i was even more determined to conclude my trip in a big way, even if it meant going outside budapest. so out of town i went, to vienna to return to an fkk after a two-year break: see the vienna thread for a report on my visit to goldentime, which turned out to be the highlight of my trip.

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[Ibn Buttita]

in early june i visited budapest and sought out the range of sex options available. on a previous trip i had only checked out the peep shows, but this time i branched out. it was interesting, with some exceptional experiences, some comical ones, and ultimately a lot of the fun was in the exploration and pursuit of opportunities. this post will cover my foray into the erotic massage parlors, and a return to the peep show scene, with a brief trip to s strip club.

massage parlors: massage trio

the budapest massage parlor scene had been a major target for this trip, so i did a fair amount of research on where to go, especially since it would be necessary to reserve ahead at these places. japan massage had gotten rave reviews on isg, and the central pest location looked to be perfect for me, but when they emailed me their prices i almost had a heart attack – 24, 000 f for an 80 minute, 1-girl erotic massage? with other options available, i crossed them off my list. my massage angels was at the top of my to-do list (see below), but my first attempt to make a booking was foiled by a later morning opening time than their website indicated. another place near the nyguati train station (infoatmassagehouse. hu, 575-8784) had a receptionist with poor english one day, and on another occasion the name of the available masseuse was not one i had noticed in the photo lineup on the website, so i declined to visit.

instead, i became something of a regular at massagetrio on aradi street (1 block parallel to andrassy, about 4 blocks up from terez korut/the octagaon square. i had read good reports on the forum, and the photos of girls on their websites (http://www.masszazshirdeto. hu and http://www.masszazstrio. fw. hu) looked great, and real. making a booking was easy, as the receptionist spoke english (not the case with some other places). the location was easy enough to find; as one previous post described, it does have a shady appearance fro the outside, just a grey metal door with a buzzer. once inside, though in a basement, it's very pleasant. the rooms are paneled with light wood, with small en-suite washrooms with shower and sink, and glowing lanterns and soothing music create the right atmosphere.

but the important part, of course, was the girls. on my first visit i asked for a two-girl massage, and was very happy when bogi and szilvi accompanied me to the room. i showered and they undressed. a great feature of this place is that the girls just strip down from their street clothes, which would be a great sight to see from a regular hungarian girl, given how sexy they are and dress. and that was the best part: the massagetrio girls really are normal hungarian girls – and high school girls at that! bogi and szilvi were 18 and just finishing up their senior years, doing the massage thing on the side. szilvi has a tight, lithe body with curly dark hair, so kind of eastern looking, while bogi had more of a girl-next-door look, curvy without being chubby, shortish straight brown hair, and an adorable smile.

szilvi was nearing the end of her shift and could not stay for the full hour, so when they asked if i wanted a blowjob finish with my erotic massage and i replied enthusiastically, szilvi suggested starting with that from her, and with bogi looking on and caressing me szilvi kneeled over me and started sucking me, and i quickly turned her around to 69 position and licked her ****, and eventually shot my cum into her mouth. after i paid her (she cut the charge to account for the reduced time) and kissed her goodbye, it was bogi's turn. with her lying on her back, i spread her legs and licked her fresh teenie pussy, and then she got on top of me in a 69 and we both licked and sucked until i came in her mouth. how's that for a fantasy good at any age: in bed 69-ing with two naked high school girls! we finished up with a mutual shower, with each of us soaping the other up in all he right places.

i returned for a solo session with bogi on my last day in budapest, before my ride to the airport. i had just returned that morning from a busy day in vienna at goldentime fkk (see the vienna thread for that), and as i was returning to my hotel from the train station i saw a girl who looked just like bogi; i could have sworn it was her. this got me to lean against a return visit to massagetrio since bogi would therefore not be at work, but the girl made no sign of recognition as i walked by (i started to feel like stalker at this point!). i decided that, even with a full fkk day under my belt, i needed to bring my budapest sex tour to a successful close (see my next post on escorts for the unsuccessful part...) and so went over to massagetrio after i called and discovered that bogi was indeed present. what followed was another exceptional experience, one of the most erotic and sensual i've experienced. no kissing, but lots of caressing and delicious 69 with a wonderful cim finish. and to see bogi in and out of her everyday clothes (as i had after the first massage – she passed me on the street and smiled as i was checking out a restaurant menu) was such a rush. with jeans low cut enough to see her thong, shirt that showed her cleavage, and a natural-girl smile, wow, i wonder how the guys at school must react to her. such a sweet girl, and easily the highlight of budapest for me.

despite those great experiences, i did have one poor session at massagetrio. zita looks great on the website so when i was told she was available one afternoon i reserved with her. she has a very tight, slender body, and a dark, exotic roma look, but beyond looks the experience with her was disappointing. she didn't speak english so communication was difficult, and she took up most of the hour with a mediocre massage. she offered a blow job, but the bj was more of a handjob with my tip in her mouth, and she abruptly refused my offer to 69 with her. overall she really restricted the amount of touching to little more than her breasts. but overall massagetrio was a great find, highly recommended.

massage parlors: my massage angels

i had a couple of hours before dinner one night so i tried to finally visit massage angels, which had always been at the top of my list for a visit due to good reviews on isg and their awesome website. traffic almost ruined my plan, though, as my taxi crawled from pest to buda due to bridge closures resulting from the high danube waters. the parlor is on a street behind buda castle in a small residential building – one of the most interesting outside locations for an mp, facing the old walls, and with suitably asian-evocative rooms (but the shower room was down the hallway). i had called ahead to reserve a session with brigi, and was happy with my choice as she easily lived up to the photos of her body on the website. she is easily the most hard-bodied girl i had ever been with, completely firm and toned all over, and a set of large but perfectly shaped fake tits, all tanned to perfection. as a bonus, she had a great face as well. she wore a g-string through throughout and would not allow me to pry underneath, but sucking her tits was fine. her massage progressed from relaxing to very stimulating, using her breasts to body massage me. the finish was a covered but smooth bj, and it was brought to a close by some gentle caressing my only regret was that i had to get back to my hotel and so had to reduce my session to half an hour. total cost was about 16, 000 f.

peep shows: a reunion

on my last visit to budapest i had mostly visited the peep shows, and had a lot of fun. i had different targets this time, but i still wanted to try one of them again. i returned to the one where i had my best experience on my previous visit, pipi show at 68 jozsef korut. it was late morning, and when i arrived the manager had the three girls who were sitting in by the door get into their booths. on the ground floor i watched one brunette girl with glasses who looked like a sexy student, and a taller, slender brunette. i would have happily done either one of them. but i went upstairs and saw tamara's show i was sold – she had a gorgeous face and a nice fit body. so i arranged to take her in the little cubbyhole room where i had had sex on my previous visit two years ago. tamara had looked familiar during her little strip show, but when i met her in the bedroom i wondered if this could really be the girl i had fucked in this same spot in 2008 – could she still be working here, and still look so good? i confirmed it was her when i saw her belly, which had suffered from childbirth (her only flaw – she could really be a model otherwise). without any mutual language i couldn't communicate this, and i'm sure she did not remember, but we had a very pleasant (for me at least) reunion as we lay on our sides spooning as i pumped her from behind. a quick repeat, only 20 minutes for 15, 000 forint (plus 1, 000 for use of the room), but still memorable. and you can be sure i'll see if tamara is there the next time i visit budapest.

strip shows: royal palace

with all the strip clubs in budapest i wanted to check out at least on during my trip. i chose royal palace since it was among the ones recommended in isg, or at least it was not warned against or being a scam place. it also had a dinner special for 20 euros and i did not have dinner plans on my first evening in town, plus it offered free transport to the club. so after calling for my free taxi pickup, i arrived at 10pm to an empty club (it was a tuesday night). i was afraid that this would make me a constant target for the ladies, but the one girl, isabel, who approached me turned out to be excellent company for a few hours, slinky dress, good conversation skills in english, hit body, what's not to like. as for the stage show, there were a couple of hot women stripping, but i was not overly impressed by the lineup – good, but not great. the girls who isabel pointed out as being available for takeout (isabel wasn't) were rather less attractive to me. i did get an excellent 10 minute lap dance from isabel, with plenty of hands-on access to her lithe body, butt, and nice (fake) tits. another pleasant surprise: the food (three course meal) was outstanding.

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[Gamma Ray 007]

I'm wondering if there is anything in Budapest that is like Crazy Horse Revue (Paris), or the late (lamented) Raymond's Revue Bar in London. This would be a fixed-price venue with a number of acts involving music, costumes, etc. Full nudity is great, but not required, depending on the intensity of the performers, looks, costumes, etc.

Any ideas?

Note--I'm NOT looking for routine strip clubs, night clubs with dancing and lame floor shows, or live sex shows (e.g, Casa Rosso in Amsterdam), but would be happy to know about the latter option!