German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Mr Ho]

I suppose there is some middle ground between addiction and sex being food. Sex has been shown to be have healing properties. But a hobby can be addictive if everything around it takes it beyond the bare minimum you would need to get that health benefit.

Sex and lust is one of natural desire of humans, but sex / lust has been implanted (by many societies and religions etc.) to us as something that is dirty, unless sex / lust is conducted in certain forms whether it is relationship or marriage etc.

In a way, it is some kind of oppression because it is something we naturally desire as humans, but they try to restrict it for centuries using all kind of tools to denounce and restrict freedom of recreational sexual activities.

Well pro mongers has found good wise way around this for our own happiness.

For me, mongering is going to white sand beach or eating nice different kind of food that never expire.

[Pistons]

Little Justin is probably in love. I don't think that because one is rich, that also means that he is able to look outside the monogamous group think idea of true love. The illusion can seem as strong as free will.

I suppose there is some middle ground between addiction and sex being food. Sex has been shown to be have healing properties. But a hobby can be addictive if everything around it takes it beyond the bare minimum you would need to get that health benefit.

I do wonder what Osho would have done. I suppose he is quite rich now considering I have seen some products marketed with his face on them.

I suppose I would have taken Osho with me to an FKK if I were to pick one guy. Osho and maybe Jesus.

Justin Bieber is not quite in that category.

Osho regarding sex:

https://youtu.be/KmThdVnWNi8

[Mr Ho]

You seem to think that every man wants to spend all their free time fucking beautiful WGs. That fucking beautiful, young WGs is their deep down desire and life aspiration, but they ignore this desire because society has brainwashed them into marrying women. But I don't think this is true.

Bob Kraft. Justin Bieber. Both men are known to have used the services of WGs, so we can conclude that neither is "brainwashed". Also both men are wealthy enough to walk away from their careers and move to a monger friendly country and have orgies every day for the rest of their life. But for whatever reason they choose not to. My belief is simply they have a healthy habit. They want to occasionally fuck beautiful WGs but their mind is not consumed by it. And they do not daydream about the day when they can return to a brothel. I don't think they are wasting their time reading forums, making thousands of posts, and getting defensive about what others on an anonymous forum are saying about them. They aren't planning trips and spending hours in the FKK like us ISGers do.

I consider myself an addict. Not something I am proud of or really that ashamed of.

No, not every day man. At the beginning, it was every day and I was in heaven and but as years went by, I did not lose passion for it, and it is hard to find right words to explain it, but let say I calm down a lot.

I think I calm down a lot because finally after all these years of fucking young beautiful girls one after another, sometimes two at the same time, different skin colors, hair colors etc etc. , all this things that all young men once dream of became normal to me.

And yes, I do think all straight men at one point in their life especially in their teenage years dream of such sex life and mind you I have been mongering since age 17 or age 18, then it accelerated to more crazy level once I found German FKK in year 2009 when I was 29. Till then I did both normal and pro girls, but after discovery of German FKK, normal relationships just did not make sense to me from sexual point of view in most part, not all and I turned professional monger. Well years passed and recently I calm down a lot.

Having said that, even though I calm down a lot, I still put mongering as my primary hobby. I do other things, like skiing, sports or eating gourmet, travelling sometimes etc. , but all this I have been doing for all my life also, and I kind of stick to what human nature demand, and I do find sex with young beautiful girls very beautiful things to do in life like some kind of in touch feeling with true art, for me it is like in touch experience with fine art.

Addict is when one cannot control their behavior and I control my self, for example, as I mentioned I take about one to three trips per year right? It is one to three trips because sometime, I cannot due to work schedule or recently I cannot be bother to fly over, you may say I do not enjoy it enough to fly over, no, I do, it is just that I calm down a lot and as much as I love German FKK, I can tell myself no I should focus on making this money first then go or I cannot be bother to go now etc. Plus I monger some nice Eurasians here so I got things going on here too. So I am still in control.

Addict may not be right word I think and you say you are an addict? Maybe not man, I mean addict do not admit they are addict, so at least you seem to realize that this hobby of mongering can be dangerously addictive.

I think it is addictive when one begin to seek something more than sex in brothel or German FKK, there has been horrible case before in German FKK because of that.

I do dream about going back sometimes like I do dream about going to nice white sand beach, every one got something look forward to in life and for me going on German FKK trip is like going to white sand beach, I do look forward to it and each time I land in Germany, I still do get this excitement like a little kid running to toy store with money, but it is just for sex and memories and what happen in FKK stay in FKK.

One thing it changed me though, I tend to prefer fulfilling my lust with professional girls than normal girls due to less complication and I can do more dirty thing one after another with multiple girls in one day and as for human communications I prefer to do that with friends and my pets. It is not that I have bad experience, it is just that mongering world gave me such a good best experiences that made me realize wow this is far easier, better and less stress and make more sense for me rationally.

It is hard to describe what I mean by calm, but for me like some other pro mongers, I took something that is limited for most men unlimited, so it is something that are always there for me and I am fortunate that I bother to adventure out to the world of mongering since age 17 or 18 and carried on that journey throughout this wonderful planet called earth.

In closing, forum is nice to post, I mean I do not talk about mongering to almost anybody in my private life. Only two good friends knows about it and one of them is not exactly monger. Most of time, I just mess around on forum, but I do sometimes write more seriously, it is interesting place to chat considering most of us monger cannot go out there and talk about this hobby openly, I mean if I am asked how was your trip to Germany, as much as I want to say, but I cannot say that blow job was so good or I had so much anal sex in Germany etc. LOL.

Justin Bieber? That is some vivid example man LOL. Put it this way, I live better sex life than most of so called celebrities through out my life, I am free, I am not watched or controlled by anybody, I just follow the law to some extent and also I do have some self discipline, but other than that I am free since young age and continue to be that way. I tend to not follow celebrity world too much because it is made up character that we see and some mongers here live better sex life than most of those guys and some mongers live better sex life than me in quantity at this forum that make me inspire to make me get out more to hunt when my motivation is bit low.

All in all, it is each their own, some guys like to fuck, some are stuck not knowing what to do, I mean it is out there, all men got to do is go out there with cash and with free informed spirit, then nowadays all men can have best sex life. It is eternal mystery what stopping them. And I hope all men will find their sexual satisfaction because it is important part of happy life by men's nature.

What stops me sometime is my sexual satisfaction that is the irony of it all though. Even though I calm down a lot, I have been monger since age 17 or 18, I am a monger now and I will always be a monger. This is sure thing.

[McAdonis]

It is merely a point of view and I much prefer to fucking beautiful girls throughout my life when I want to than jerking off front of computer screen and denouncing mongers who are living every men's secret dream.

You seem to think that every man wants to spend all their free time fucking beautiful WGs. That fucking beautiful, young WGs is their deep down desire and life aspiration, but they ignore this desire because society has brainwashed them into marrying women. But I don't think this is true.

Bob Kraft. Justin Bieber. Both men are known to have used the services of WGs, so we can conclude that neither is "brainwashed". Also both men are wealthy enough to walk away from their careers and move to a monger friendly country and have orgies every day for the rest of their life. But for whatever reason they choose not to. My belief is simply they have a healthy habit. They want to occasionally fuck beautiful WGs but their mind is not consumed by it. And they do not daydream about the day when they can return to a brothel. I don't think they are wasting their time reading forums, making thousands of posts, and getting defensive about what others on an anonymous forum are saying about them. They aren't planning trips and spending hours in the FKK like us ISGers do.

I consider myself an addict. Not something I am proud of or really that ashamed of.

[Gino02]

Salaam zusammen. I guess most of us have heroes from childhood and later: sports icons, great thinkers of history, mentors from family or college. My question is: if you could bring one person you admire to an FKK, who would it be? Buzz Aldrin? Babe Ruth? Stephen Hawking? Jesus? The Emperor of Japan? Your uncle, the cool one? Maybe someone who changed your whole way of thinking and now you want to pay them back and show them something they've been missing in their life.

How would you persuade them to come along? Where would you bring them? How do you think the visit would go?

For me definitely it would be the Dalai Lama or Mahatma Ghandhi. Just shooting the breeze together in an FKK, checking out the naked babes, that would be so cool.

Good question Poly! I would bring Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi and Dalai Lama to Sharks 2016 spring. They are all already ready, don't even need to change to robes or towels. And as much as I don't like Sharks anymore, don't think there is any competition with the beginners wow factor with Sharks in its heyday of spring 2016 when they had the best looking and most service oriented girls with zero up selling. I might even book the upstairs VIP area for them for some group fun LOL.

[Polyamorist]

Salaam zusammen. I guess most of us have heroes from childhood and later: sports icons, great thinkers of history, mentors from family or college. My question is: if you could bring one person you admire to an FKK, who would it be? Buzz Aldrin? Babe Ruth? Stephen Hawking? Jesus? The Emperor of Japan? Your uncle, the cool one? Maybe someone who changed your whole way of thinking and now you want to pay them back and show them something they've been missing in their life.

How would you persuade them to come along? Where would you bring them? How do you think the visit would go?

For me definitely it would be the Dalai Lama or Mahatma Ghandhi. Just shooting the breeze together in an FKK, checking out the naked babes, that would be so cool.

[Sirioja]

More than 9000 posts with a single handle, you'd have to outsource if you took on another username.

My English lessons, best pleasure is to write in English. Not far from 1000 visits since end of 2012, all over FKK land.

[Mr Ho]

My travels are mixed in with work, outstanding food, wine, often skiing and swimming. Clubs are icing on the cake, not a destination in and of itself. I see the point of the post below taken out of context and it rings true in some cases. However you look at it, what we do is frowned upon, just as many beliefs and creeds have been. It just means we have more choices and necessarily have spare income to indulge it. So yes, by any objective measure of being fortunate to have a good passport to go as we please, spare cash and time rather than three minimum wage jobs, we are lucky.

Monkey brain addiction comes in many forms, fat, salt. Nicotine, sex, alcohol, drugs and deep solace delusion in certain social constructs contrary to all evidence or rational observation. Where occasional partaking with the easy ability to stop at whim becomes a permanent addiction is also not clear cut. This awareness is base of control.

Pussies are like food. We humans eat three times per day in first world nations and you do not call it exactly addicted to food because we eat 3 times per day, it is merely our appetite as humans.

It is just like that for pro mongers. Beautiful girls pussies are like food, we may not need or want it three times per day, but we need it more than other men and we need quantity and also quality.

I got platform set up here for Eurasian beauties and once to few times per year, I need to fly 10 hours to taste some white beauties and beautiful exotic girls pussies.

It is merely lust and we mongers figured out how to feed it beating down several society norms by thinking for ourselves.

Those who are addicts never addicts they are addicts, from society norms, we maybe labeled as prostitute addicts, but who cares what those who are not getting quality or quantity may think? What important is that we made our dreams came true in area of lust, this is what matters.

It is merely a point of view and I much prefer to fucking beautiful girls throughout my life when I want to than jerking off front of computer screen and denouncing mongers who are living every men's secret dream.

If they call mongers addicts to prostitution, I will call them they are addicted to their old wives and society norms.

[Pistons]

I am not sure Nick the G ment it this way, but I agree with the critic he wrote regarding group identity. Not that I think it is necessarily of key importance to addiction. But it is a problem when groups identity is pushed ahead of self identity. Because this removes the personal freedom aspect, and one essentially becomes part of a cult. While not having full control oneself over where the cult identity is headed. Unless you are some sort of cultist leader.

An internet forum can be such a cult. Thankfully, as mentioned before, the FKK environment itself, with its polygamous nature, seems radically anti cultist in its basics.

But never lick up to other people. Think for yourselves.

Jordan Peterson on identity politics on Australian TV:

https://youtu.be/tOHUwwP6LLs

[Pahllus Maximus]

My travels are mixed in with work, outstanding food, wine, often skiing and swimming. Clubs are icing on the cake, not a destination in and of itself. I see the point of the post below taken out of context and it rings true in some cases. However you look at it, what we do is frowned upon, just as many beliefs and creeds have been. It just means we have more choices and necessarily have spare income to indulge it. So yes, by any objective measure of being fortunate to have a good passport to go as we please, spare cash and time rather than three minimum wage jobs, we are lucky.

Monkey brain addiction comes in many forms, fat, salt. Nicotine, sex, alcohol, drugs and deep solace delusion in certain social constructs contrary to all evidence or rational observation. Where occasional partaking with the easy ability to stop at whim becomes a permanent addiction is also not clear cut. This awareness is base of control.

[Takedown]

Obviously this makes sense. Who wants to have a philosophy in which the person would place himself at the bottom? The objective of all these theories is to feel good about self and have a high sense of self worth.

Here mongers articulate and espouse a philosophy and worldview. They explain the world as they see it. Of course, in this particular view, the monger is tops- the smartest, the best, the most enlightened, what have you. Mongering is the most worthy activity in the world.

I'm new here but this is what I am observing.

Very spot on. A healthy relationship with mongering is knowing that it is a hobby, not a representation of society and life as a whole. There has recently been references to Maslow's hierarchy pointing out that sex is a basic physiological need; however, there are other needs. Efforts made in satisfying that one need should be proportionate to efforts made in satisfying the rest. In order to justify an imbalance that leads to ignoring deficits in societal position, health, and wealth, they need to create an alternate reality. This is also known as self delusion. It appears that the delusions are a dangerous sort of coping mechanism that leads one to ignore efforts in recognizing and addressing individual deficiencies. This habit often spills over to all aspect of life and creating false realities become second nature. Even worse, they often blame others for poor outcomes by creating alternative accounts of events. Sometimes they even blame society at large for "getting it wrong" and that they themselves have insightful knowledge despite fact. Perhaps the cause of this is true addiction, but equally credible is that it is the result of a lifetime of rejection by women and even other men. In the latter case, one can see why an effective coping mechanism would be to create alternate realities, blaming others, and falling into the conspiracy theory trap.

[Samplerr]

We can understand better when we know who is behind the writings, when we know look and behavior. Some need to use different profiles, one is enough for me.

More than 9000 posts with a single handle, you'd have to outsource if you took on another username.

[The Cane]

LOL! This is the wellknown mask used by the addicted of any kind. Addicted to sex, nicotine, drugs, ideologies of any kind, whatsoever.

Believing to belong to a group of chosen ones, where they are allowed to transfigure their neediness, greed and addiction into something special AND VALUABLE!

With regards to those sex-addicted ones: Similar to what the Camel advertising was aiming at with nicotin addicts by "reframing"! The brand's slogan, used for decades, showing adventurous scenes in adverts and films, was: "I'd walk a mile for a Camel!

I don't consider myself to be addicted. Not at all! A man enjoys having sex, and a lot f it, and now he's "addicted" to one of the most primal of all human needs. That's just some more feminazi bullshit! Now in my case, I was a world traveler long before I ever discovered the traveling monger lifestyle. And when I did, well wow what a nice addition to the whole experience making my travels all the better! For me, the travel came first, then the mongering. So, if I'm addicted to anything, then maybe it's the travel and not the sex! Ha!

[Sirioja]

It is actually triple funny. When a troll also looks like one due to drugs.

Or quadruple funny when the troll also cannot cum. A troll fuck without an ending.

We can understand better when we know who is behind the writings, when we know look and behavior. Some need to use different profiles, one is enough for me.

[CaneUppHosAss]

Every little group and even individuals come up with a philosophy and world view that makes sense of this universe as they see- invariably, in every such philosophy and worldview, the person proposing it always puts self and their little group at the very apex.

Obviously this makes sense. Who wants to have a philosophy in which the person would place himself at the bottom? The objective of all these theories is to feel good about self and have a high sense of self worth.

Here mongers articulate and espouse a philosophy and worldview. They explain the world as they see it. Of course, in this particular view, the monger is tops- the smartest, the best, the most enlightened, what have you. Mongering is the most worthy activity in the world.

I'm new here but this is what I am observing.

LOL! This is the wellknown mask used by the addicted of any kind. Addicted to sex, nicotine, drugs, ideologies of any kind, whatsoever.

Believing to belong to a group of chosen ones, where they are allowed to transfigure their neediness, greed and addiction into something special AND VALUABLE!

With regards to those sex-addicted ones: Similar to what the Camel advertising was aiming at with nicotin addicts by "reframing"! The brand's slogan, used for decades, showing adventurous scenes in adverts and films, was: "I'd walk a mile for a Camel!