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  1. #3427
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    The 3.8 million figure is grossly inflated, as it includes everyone who died with covid rather than of it. Incentives were given to doctors and hospitals to get the number up by testing people dying or dead of something else. Many dying people caught it in hospital where they were about to die anyway. We all remember the notorious case of the guy killed in an auto accident who was counted as a covid death. And the average age of covid death is mid-80's, so half of them were late 80's and 90's, and were on the way out regardless.

    At the same time, the 176 m figure is a tiny fraction of the real number. Most people who had it didn't even know that they did, and it went unreported. It is a highly contagious disease; once it gets out in a population there's little way to stop it, as the data has shown: countries and states with no lockdown had the same results as those with draconian lockdown. But for the vast majority, they either don't notice it or they have a couple of days of flu-like symptoms and get better. No trip to the hospital, no test, no report, they just continue with life (as we all should have).
    In other words, you don't like the data so, like any good republikkkan, you claim the data is fake news and make up your own.

    No wonder republikkkans believe that trump won, that the vaccine changes your DNA, etc. Why not say the earth is flat? After all, it must be since all pictures from space only show one side.

  2. #3426

    Biden G7

    Quote Originally Posted by Beno69  [View Original Post]
    And they are very dangerous. Still continue with the big lie and try to change the voting rights / rules in GOP counties with big Black and Latino communities to make voting for them very difficult. Even bring some voters in the line a drink would be a crime. Worlds democrazy nr. 1! - there is only 1 hope that this criminal ex president will go to jail for at least 10-20 years!

    But I don't know what repeating the Trump Mafia fake news here have to do with mongering?
    Biden at G7 embarrassing USA and himself.

    1. Interrupted Boris Johnson twice because he forgot what Boris said. Has to be corrected by Boris.

    2. Broke protocol with the queen.

    3. Got Syria and Libya mixed up 4 times.

    4. Congratulated by Putin for helping Russia energy while destroying USA energy.

    What a fool!

    Trump looks awfully good right now in comparison to this clown.

    I wonder how the idiots on here are going to spin Biden incompetence at G7?

  3. #3425
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    What a bunch of turgid fakenews wordsludge you just presented, none of which refutes any of the ten factual statements about leftist lies spewed toward President Trump.

    Florida and Texas, both open for business, are doing better than New York and California, despite the latter having brutal and unconstitutional lockdowns.

    Children are not vulnerable to covid, and teachers are no more vulnerable to it at school than going about normal life. Let them wear those stupid face visors on top of their triple-mask if they want.

    The border, which Trump had got under control by keeping the illegals in Mexico, has now been thrown open deliberately by the dems because they know white people (and increasingly, black men) aren't stupid enough to vote for them so they need to replace them with a new base.
    "Florida and Texas, both open for business, are doing better than New York and California, despite the latter having brutal and unconstitutional lockdowns. " Wrong. Again. https://news.yahoo.com/lockdown-stat...153025163.html.

    "Children are not vulnerable to covid". Just stop with the lies. Less vulnerable? Sure, but not "not vulnerable". https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019.../symptoms.html.

    "Hydroxychloroquine is effective". Only in the warped minds of republikkkans. Not one randomiszed, double-blind study has proven that it is effective. But kkkonservatives would rather believe that because it "worked" on your cousin's boyfriend's uncle's plumber, IT IS A CURE. Stop listening to Tucker.

    Ahh, the republican't "open border" argument. Please include one source where any Democratic politician from anywhere used the term "I support open borders."

    Racist and republikkkans hate critical race theory because they can't handle the truth. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...lained/618828/.

  4. #3424
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    The majority of the people left to vaccinate are blacks. Are you saying all blacks are Trump supporters?
    You lie:

    https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/

  5. #3423
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    .....Unfortunately, republicans still exist. But everybody knows they are liars anyway.
    And they are very dangerous. Still continue with the big lie and try to change the voting rights / rules in GOP counties with big Black and Latino communities to make voting for them very difficult. Even bring some voters in the line a drink would be a crime. Worlds democrazy nr. 1! - there is only 1 hope that this criminal ex president will go to jail for at least 10-20 years!

    But I don't know what repeating the Trump Mafia fake news here have to do with mongering?

  6. #3422

    Tech censorship

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...o_society.html

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis discussed signing a bill he said will protect state residents' ability to access and participate in social media platforms and allows them to fight back against de-platforming and censorship during an interview on FNC's "Sunday Morning Futures. ".

    GOV. RON DESANTIS: What they censored was actually true. They called it a conspiracy theory if you said this may have leaked from the lab. They were also censoring around the same time last year any criticisms of lockdowns. And we know now lockdowns didn't work. States like Florida that were open were better off for it.

    And so you often hear people say, hey, these are private companies, they can do what they want, yadda, yadda, yadda. But here's an example of working with Fauci where Facebook, you could argue, is essentially acting as an arm of the state, because they're suppressing what the government wants suppressed.

    And so I think this issue with big tech is unlike anything we have seen. They have massive amounts of power. These are monopolies that are much stronger than the monopolies of the early 20th century. They control, in effect, a handful of companies, a huge percentage of the political speech in this country.

    And so I think, when you have a situations, they're not just censoring based on partisanship. Obviously, we have seen conservatives be censored. But when they're censoring things about some of the most important issues that we have ever addressed, how COVID started, whether lockdowns work. You know they're really doing damage to society.

  7. #3421

    Vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, "every sane person" leaves out the majority of trump supporters.

    Any person who believes that the COVID vaccine changes your DNA or that the orange fruitcake won the election or that COVID has a 0.1% fatality rate, etc, is, by definition, insane. They live in their own little fantasy world where up is down, morning is night, trump never told a lie, tucker Carlson tells the truth and proof is what they say it is.
    The majority of the people left to vaccinate are blacks. Are you saying all blacks are Trump supporters?

  8. #3420

    Canada

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Hydroxychloroquine works. This is, of course, complete bullshit. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638 and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e.../PIIS2589-5370(20) 30389-8/ fulltext.

    The Virus came from a Chinese lab. This is far from a proven fact. Plus, trump claimed the release was dejliberate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahha...h=8b733f233f1c.

    Hunter Biden's laptop was real. And even Fux News couldn't make much out of it.

    Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op. And this comes out after HOW MANY months? If this was REALLY true, the relevant parties would have shown proof immediately. I wonder who got paid off?

    The "Russian Bounties" story was fake. Bad intel. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/u...elligence.html.

    We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time. And how many idiot republikkkans won't get vaccinated because the vaccine alters your DNA, contains microchips, magnetizes you, etc? Dumb, dumber, dumbest https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/202...e-anti-vaxxers.

    Blue state lockdowns didn't work. BS. https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...ry-outpaces-us And besides, it is the CONSUMERS who control the reopening anyway https://www.idahostatejournal.com/co...d0ef34ea0.html.

    Schools should be opened. Sure. But not the expense of children or teachers.

    Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country. Critical Race Theory is a disaster for racists, white supremacists and republikkkans. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...lained/618828/.

    Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful". So was trump's.

    Trump 10 - Fake News Deep State Dems 0. Trump got kicked to the curb. Unfortunately, republicans still exist. But everybody knows they are liars anyway.
    Has Watching fake news made you this stupid? Your post shows you don't have a clue. Critical race theory is socialists hate of Americans people and white people. Why do you hate white people and the USA. ? Why are so many people trying to enter USA illegally if it is such a horrible country?

  9. #3419

    G7

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I agree. And I submit Biden has a better plan in every way than the former guy.

    Not that Trump had a plan at all with regard to China other than to frame them as the "Yellow Menace" out of one side of his mouth to thrill his lamebrain base while lying in perfect sync with Xi out of the other side of his mouth about the known (to him) threat and risk of the spread of the coronavirus to the point of triggering a Pandemic that could have been avoided if an honorable POTUS with real concern about American lives and the economy had been in that position at the time. His only focused goal with China appears to have been to beg them to "Make sure I win." lol. He lost that negotiation, too.

    History will forever show that Trump was the wrong person in the wrong job at the wrong time and, not surprisingly, tragically wrong about everything important. As was easily predictable by anyone paying attention.
    Biden plan! What a joke. Biden showed his incompetence again. Confusing Libya and Syria several times. Putin thanked Biden for enhancing Russia oil and gas economy while shutting down USA production and drilling. Putin joked about $4. 00 gas in USA. Biden is the laughing stock oh G7. I see you as well as several other countries are happy with a weaker America under Biden than a strong USA under Trump. Why are you so anti American. Why do you want USA to fail?

  10. #3418
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    You're living in your own little fantasy world if you equate an understanding of the attack on the Liberty with supporting Trump or opposing covid vaccinations. A reflection of your mentality as absurd as equating objections to Isreali double-standards and crimes with anti-semitism.
    Trump supporters do oppose getting the covid vaccine. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it false and just because Tucker Carlson doesn't talk about it doesn't make it true.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-vaccine-poll

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/u...-vaccines.html

    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/202...e-anti-vaxxers

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ed-blue-divide

  11. #3417

    Kamala is a gift to Republicans, Desantis 2024

    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...he-republicans

    Here is what the millions of Americans who take their opinions from Fox News and related outlets have been hearing about Kamala Harris. The vice-president was put in charge of the southern border because she "has brown skin". Her picture book, "Superheroes Are Everywhere", was issued to migrant children, maybe corruptly. ("Is she profiting from Biden's border crisis?" tweeted Republican supremo Ronna McDaniel.) Metropolitan elites worship her; Vogue, which ignored lovely Melania Trump, put her (her!) on its cover. Her entrepreneur niece, Meena Harris, is an anti-white racist queen of cancel culture.

    In other words, while the mainstream media soberly cover Ms Harris's efforts to win Joe Biden's trust and master her portfolio (which includes Mexico and Guatemala but not the border, where her book has not been issued to anyone), she is being relentlessly defined on the right as a dishonest member of the corrupt elite with an agenda alien to white America. Tucker Carlson—who during the election campaign refused to pronounce Ms Harris's Hindu name correctly—has neatly synthesised these two slanders. "She's a globalist superhero. Just like Voldemort, you can't really know how to pronounce her name."

    So far, so predictable, you might say. But Ms Harris is no ordinary vice-president. As the first non-white, female vice-president of a party that has made diversity an organising principle, she is the presumptive next Democratic presidential nominee. It is hard, even at this early stage, to imagine her being denied. Given the 78-year-old Mr Biden's age, her elevation could be only three years off. And the election that would ensue—the Republicans' worsening derangement suggests—may well be as crucial as the one just past. This raises the question of whether she has what it takes to rise above the right-wing slanders and appeal to middle America, as Barack Obama did, or whether she will be destroyed by them, as Hillary Clinton was. And it is making senior Democrats nervous. "Everyone is saying, 'Oh God, Kamala is next and then we're in trouble' says a Democrat close to the White House.

    Oratory aside, Mr Obama's success was based on an ability to reassure white Americans that was rooted in his intimate knowledge of them. The son of a white woman, brought up by his white grandmother, he promised better times for all and rarely mentioned race unprompted. Ms Harris is a different case. She is the daughter of South Asian and Jamaican immigrants, brought together by the civil-rights movement, who brought her up as black. Though nothing like the vindictive race-warrior of Mr Carlson's fevered imagining, she leans into black identity politics more than the former president did.

    This is a good way to win elections in California. It would be a disastrous general-election strategy, as shown by the white backlash to Mr Obama, notwithstanding his carefulness, and by Ms Harris's failure to impress even black voters during her hapless presidential bid. African-Americans tend to support the Democratic candidate who seems likeliest to appeal to white voters, on which basis they preferred Mr Biden. And her Hail Mary effort to turn things round by accusing Mr Biden of racial insensitivity during a televised debate ("I do not believe you are a racist but.") only confirmed them in their choice. Polls suggested that black voters found it cynical and insincere.

    The coverage of her current job has also been mixed. She has been accused of failing to carve out a well-defined "Veep" role or hire a sufficiently politically savvy staff. This is probably unfair. Her pressing need is to do whatever Mr Biden (with whom she had some making up to do) wants in order to make his administration successful. And she appears to be doing that. She was involved in the recent Middle-Eastern diplomacy. She is due to visit Mexico City next week. Though inexperienced in foreign policy, she is a polished front-woman who espouses Mr Biden's internationalist views. The criticism of her seems rather to reflect not only the underlying anxiety about her ability to succeed him, but also the unusual nature of her position.

    Ever since Walter Mondale upgraded the vice-presidency in the late 1970's, most of its occupants have spent four years trying to make themselves useful; then a second term, if it transpired, laying the groundwork for a presidential run. The carping suggests Ms Harris is expected to do both things at once, which is unrealistic; and indeed she would be castigated if she tried to.

    There is one political task she cannot delay, however. That is to understand why her presidential campaign failed, which was not mainly to do with her race or gender, however much of an electoral burden they may be. Her stump speech sounded like group-written marketing spiel (something about wanting to "prosecute the case against Donald Trump" Her promise—quickly rescinded—to scrap private medical insurance suggested a politician who had no clear idea where or what she stood for: whether on the left, with an emphasis on expanding the government, or towards the centre, with more focus on enterprise and opportunity. This was why the pundits and donors who at first flocked to her quickly moved on. It was in turn why she resorted to playing the race card against Mr Biden. No wonder she makes some Democrats nervous.

    Kamala chameleon.

    She should reflect on the fact that the centrist Mr Biden won as Mr Obama had before him: by promising hope, opportunity and togetherness for all. There is no evidence that Democrats can get round Americans' mistrust of government and vexed racial politics any other way (however they may hope to govern). Mr Obama, a big admirer of Ms Harris, must believe she can pull off the same trick. Talking up her vice-presidential credentials was one of his two big political calls last year. The other was his initial dismissiveness of Mr Biden. It would be a terrible shame if the former president turned out to be wrong on both counts.

  12. #3416

    The buck stops with Kamala

    https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion...251878483.html

    I believe that the first porno with a "kamala" Femdom theme will be a multi millionaire!
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  13. #3415

    Never more timely?

    https://youtu.be/aqQv3qef21A

    https://townhall.com/columnists/jeff...stock-n2590907

    Upon becoming president, Joe Biden created a disaster at the nation's southern border. He foolishly ordered an immediate halt to the construction of our border wall. He also abandoned Trump administration policies that were clearly working. The result has been a massive increase in the number of illegal immigrants entering the United States.

    This stampede of migrants has overwhelmed our resources at the border and created a true humanitarian catastrophe. To show he was taking action to deal with the problem, Biden appointed Vice President Kamala Harris to be his point person on the border crisis.

    Even though he has selected crazed leftists for many of the positions in his administration, choosing Harris may have been his worst appointment. Harris is a total embarrassment who has never succeeded in any position throughout her political career.

    As a presidential candidate, Harris departed the race early after a series of pathetic performances in debates. Her fundraising collapsed and she exited several months before the first presidential caucus.

    Biden rescued her from political obscurity when he chose her as his running mate. As the vice-presidential candidate, she failed to capture the imagination of voters and was fairly ineffective. In her only televised debate with her Republican opponent, Vice President Mike Pence, she was terrible and lost convincingly.

    Her performance as vice president has been even worse, so it is mystifying why Biden would choose her for such an important role as dealing with the border crisis. In this position, she has been even worse than expected, acting in an arrogant, ill-informed manner that has only exacerbated the crisis.

  14. #3414

    Hypocrisy

    So it is all coming out now how Trump Was spying on Democrats and reporters that he didn't like. Was a big crybaby claiming that his campaign being spied upon because of the FISA warrant on Carter Page but used the DOJ as his private investigation team on Senior Democrats and reporters covering his impeachment. He even spied on his own legal counsel. Lets hear from all the fascists here that think this is just fine.

  15. #3413
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Hydroxychloroquine works. This is, of course, complete bullshit. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638 and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e.../PIIS2589-5370(20) 30389-8/ fulltext.

    The Virus came from a Chinese lab. This is far from a proven fact. Plus, trump claimed the release was dejliberate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahha...h=8b733f233f1c.

    Hunter Biden's laptop was real. And even Fux News couldn't make much out of it.

    Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op. And this comes out after HOW MANY months? If this was REALLY true, the relevant parties would have shown proof immediately. I wonder who got paid off?

    The "Russian Bounties" story was fake. Bad intel. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/u...elligence.html..
    Thanks it becomes really tedious replying to these delusions regarding EX- President Trump.

    So if Hunters laptop is real then why isn't there a grand jury convened like we have for Trump? Because it just deflection and no substance like all Republican talking points?

    Look at the list here its all froth and no substance. None of it has any real importance.

    Hydroxychloroquine had minimal impact on Covid mortality rates. How's the bleach injection going? Hard for the US to be taken seriously when the President utters that nonsense. With the so called best health system in the world the US mortality rates rank as one of the worst globally. By the way where is the great Trump health plan he promised?

    There is no evidence that Covid came from a lab. There is no evidence it has been manipulated. Even if it did what are the consequences? The consequences of Trump claiming it was a hoax and would be over in no time at all is 600,000 dead and growing.

    Schools are superspreader environments for diseases, lots of kids running around interacting then returning to homes with every conceivable bug going around. Why is it necessary to rush reopening? Could it be parents don't want to be bothered looking after the kids?

    Basically out of the whole list there is only one thing that is an "achievement" which is the so called border security. We have seen the wall has been a complete waste of money as people still go over it, under it, around it or as always cross over legally and overstay. Every other thing on the list are just grievances of no importance at all. Its a pretty poor list that out of 30,000 lies during the Presidency you can only find 10 questionable ones that have zero importance.

    Delusional Republican suckers 30000 cases of swallowing the bullshit and giving a shiteater grin afterwards.

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