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[PinkPearl]

Forget Thailand if you love girls who love kissing, especially French kissing.

Your chances are low of finding any in Bangkok who will want to do any extended sessions of this sort, let alone an hour or two.

IME with dozens of ladies, not men or katoys, mostly street walking indies, in visiting BKK 24 months since 07.

Maybe go to Brazil or try France instead. I know Canadian girls are into it.

Thai girls would far rather give you a massage, a BBBJ or even fuck you without a condom than make out.

Weird, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is an Asian thing.

BTW the usual Thai "kiss" is like a face hug, cheek to cheek.

[Mackin]

Brilliant ad. Really makes you think about what you are doing to yourself.

[PinkPearl]

Thailand's brilliant anti-smoking ads with "cute kids":

http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shin...191902989.html

[LittleBigMan]

Is there a honeymoon phase guys go through when new to Thailand?

Then after a few years or a decade or two, when their eyes are finally open, it's like the all too familiar marriage blues?

Thailand is no different than anyhere else in the world regarding marriage! The grass never stays green!

LBM

[PinkPearl]

Is there a honeymoon phase guys go through when new to Thailand?

Then after a few years or a decade or two, when their eyes are finally open, it's like the all too familiar marriage blues?

[Gangles]

Hello VL,

Thanks for your comments.

However, I note that you did not challenge the main premise that there is more prostitution in Australia than in any Asian country.

Do you agree or disagree.

In my little town, a developer wanted to build a brothel. The townspeople protested. Demonstrations, sit ins, presentations to mayor, and both members of parliament.

To no avail.

The brothel went ahead with government consent.

Yet Australians castigate asian countries for their perceived roles as sex destinations and rampant prostitution.

A couple of years ago, I came across, and confronted, a delegation of stone faced Australian feminists in Angeles City. They had gone there to clear up the prostitution business. When I set out the basic information about prostitution in Australia, and suggested that if prostitution is such a blot on society, they should fix up their own country first, before they come to fix up some other country. They realized that they were being hypocrites, and they packed up and went home.

A small blow struck for freedom.

G

Funny you should talk about the difference between perception and reality. Because whatever Australia you live in, it isn't the same one I live in, that's for sure.

Let's iron a few things out:

Firstly, yes, I have no doubt your local paper has a half a page of ad from prostitutes. But I do not believe for a moment you can organise P4P with children by one phone call. If you can, it certainly isn't through legal means, and I hope the law finds you and you have a long and brutal time in prison.

Secondly, the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is NOT a sex tour! It's a Pride March! There is a world of difference, but being from a small town, you probably don't know the difference, do you.

Thirdly, the brothel of which you speak will not have "hundreds of rooms". It will have 40 rooms and 21 waiting rooms. That's. 61 rooms. Only 2/3rds are for bookings. It'll be 24 hours, but they won't be alone in that aspect. It will be the biggest in Aus, but far from the biggest in the world.

Finally, it's been years since I was in Kings Cross (it is a dirty shithole) , so I can't directly comment. But, St Kilda is far from the hotbed of P4P action it may have once been. Apart from the streetwalkers, which plod action has whittled the number down some what, there is but ONE legal brothel in St Kilda, perhaps 2 or 3 illegal rub and tugs (not telling you where they are either) , zero strip clubs, and 3 adult bookstores. Hardly Nana Plaza, is it?

In fact, if I was going to look for some P4P action, St Kilda would be the last place I would go.

[Run Mann]

Below is an inspirational letter written by a Falang to an advice columnist (similar to Dear Abby letters). He wants foreigners who're looking for good Thai brides to know that there're some good (but expensive) ones out there. The advisor's response follows his letter.

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Dear Hillary,

I read your column every week and enjoy your comments to your posters. You have a great sense of humor! I must be in a small minority however, because I don't have anything to complain about. I am married to a Thai angel who is everything I ever dreamed of. I met her online, and when I first started writing to her she said 'I am not a bar girl! If that's what you're looking for, get lost! ' I had a feeling right then, that I was heading in the right direction. After reading so many sad stories from other farang gents, I feel really blessed! My wife is a tenured school teacher in a government school. She is attractive, intelligient (sic) , good with money, a great cook and a passionate lover! Needless to say, her parents drove a hard bargain when it came to negotiating the sin sot, but she was worth every baht. We're getting ready to build a little house in Selaphum and I'm looking forward to many wonderful years with my little angel and her sweet family as well. I hope my letter offers a little hope to those fellas who are wondering if there really is someone out there for them.

Dave.

Dear Dave,

It is indeed nice to read of successful marriages between foreigners and Thais, as I generally only hear of the disasters. So your wife is a school teacher, I see. Get her to go over some spellings for you each morning, my Petal. It is 'intelligent' not 'intelligient'. Yes, you can find your soul mate through on-line dating, but you must be very careful and not commit to anything before meeting your angel. That reminds me of the book by Mike Smith called Bangkok Angel. Worth a read by all foreigners who are wondering about mixed marriages. By the way, actually I am against the concept of the sin sot, unless there is a similar return if the marriage fails. A wife is not a commodity to be bought, sold or traded.

[V Lenin]

Pink Pearl,

There is usually a great deal of difference between perception and reality. <snip

I live in a small town in Australia. Every day, in my local paper, I will find at least half a page of ads by prostitutes. We have a legal brothel in town. At any time, night or day, I can pick up the phone and organise sex of any kind, heterosexual, homosexual, little boys, little girls. Phone sex, lap dances.

As Thailand has its centers for P4P in Pattaya and Bangkok, so do cities in Australia, at Kings Cross, St Kilda etc. The biggest sex tour in the world is in Australia. It is the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and it is supported by government. Front page headlines with the opening of a new, super-brothel, with hundreds of rooms, priced at $270 per hour. 24 hour operation. Asians are amateurs in comparison.

<snip

G

Funny you should talk about the difference between perception and reality. Because whatever Australia you live in, it isn't the same one I live in, that's for sure.

Let's iron a few things out:

Firstly, yes, I have no doubt your local paper has a half a page of ad from prostitutes. But I do not believe for a moment you can organise P4P with children by one phone call. If you can, it certainly isn't through legal means, and I hope the law finds you and you have a long and brutal time in prison.

Secondly, the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is NOT a sex tour! It's a Pride March! There is a world of difference, but being from a small town, you probably don't know the difference, do you.

Thirdly, the brothel of which you speak will not have "hundreds of rooms". It will have 40 rooms and 21 waiting rooms. That's. 61 rooms. Only 2/3rds are for bookings. It'll be 24 hours, but they won't be alone in that aspect. It will be the biggest in Aus, but far from the biggest in the world.

Finally, it's been years since I was in Kings Cross (it is a dirty shithole) , so I can't directly comment. But, St Kilda is far from the hotbed of P4P action it may have once been. Apart from the streetwalkers, which plod action has whittled the number down some what, there is but ONE legal brothel in St Kilda, perhaps 2 or 3 illegal rub and tugs (not telling you where they are either) , zero strip clubs, and 3 adult bookstores. Hardly Nana Plaza, is it?

In fact, if I was going to look for some P4P action, St Kilda would be the last place I would go.

[Rick666]

Dear Sirs,

Just arrived yesterday and checked out the talent at Gullivers And Hillary.

Both places were filled with customers and some nice girls at Gullivers.

I liked the girls@Hillary Better and there was a nice band.

I'm staying around the corner of Lollipop and I'm thinking of checking out the early shift.

[Daddy07]

I live in a small town in Australia. Every day, in my local paper, I will find at least half a page of ads by prostitutes. We have a legal brothel in town. At any time, night or day, I can pick up the phone and organise sex of any kind, heterosexual, homosexual, little boys, little girls. Phone sex, lap dances.

Are you saying that P4P sex with children is legal, or at least widely available, in Australia?

That I can't believe.

[Tony Hoeprano]

I think she does not want to introduce you to Daddy because:

1. She has already a promised Thai BF.

2. She's just with you now and don't plan on keeping you in the future.

3. She already hinted to Daddy that she may date a Farang and the look on his face said it all: NO, NO and NO

Haha. Maybe you're on to something. Truth be told, if push came to shove I could meet him, she's often suggested that I clean up my act. What she has insisted on was not unreasonable.

Fwiw, he's an ex cop who was fired for losing a large amount of money. Anyways. Today is my cheat day. I'm off to Dunkin Donuts. Yeeeehaw!

[Mr Enternational]

As to Thailand, it is an anomaly in the region. All Asian countries have a high rate of prostitution, but only in Thailand it is openly traded. And somehow, it is seen acceptable (at least on the surface). In India there are designated red light areas like Geylang in Singapore but the concept of GFE in these countries is rarely undertaken. Just my 2 cents.

I also think that is the difference. In virtually any place on earth you can find somewhere to stick your dick into some paid pussy. But the GFE tenants (such as being seen in public going to dinner, beach, etc) of places like Thailand, PI, and Brazil lead people to think there is more paid sex going on in those places. Whenever a woman mentions that there are a lot of hookers in Thailand I tell them that there are hookers everywhere. Then they say there are more in Thailand. I say a guy can only stick his dick into one at a time so what does it matter how many there are. That usually shuts them up.

[Duniawala]

"The West is not catching up with Asia, that is completely untrue.

Not sure what you meant by that. You have double negative, thereby meaning the West is catching up to Asia. Well although the boundaries are slowly breaking down in Asia as they modernize, it is still far away from the Western values.

As to Thailand, it is an anomaly in the region. All Asian countries have a high rate of prostitution, but only in Thailand it is openly traded. And somehow, it is seen acceptable (at least on the surface). In India there are designated red light areas like Geylang in Singapore but the concept of GFE in these countries is rarely undertaken. Just my 2 cents.

[Crazy4Thai]

Are there any experts on Asian or Thai culture here, now that OTH is gone?

I was wondering if you could comment on the following opinion:

"The West is not catching up with Asia, that is completely untrue. For one, the culture of Thailand, especially with regard to sex, is extremely different from the rest of Asia. In Asia, you do not have school kids getting into prostitution, except Thailand. In Asia, you do not have college age girls posting on websites advertising themselves as sugar-babies, except Thailand. Asia, except Thailand, is remarkably conservative and any girl caught doing any of those things is severely ostracized and rejected, even by their own families. If they were to do it, it would have to be driven completely underground and very deeply underground at that. What you said is untrue."

I'm no expert but I think I've learned a few things in my 6 years here in Thailand. Based on my own Asian mongering and what I see on other Asian ISG forums and surfing Asian Craig'slist sites, I think prostitution is much more in the open than what I saw in the US. I've not really mongered in Europe so my view is admittedly limited. But in Asia, Thailand is not so different I think. Want a sugar baby in Singapore? PI? Indo? Cambodia? Viet Nam? Hong Kong? Take your pick man!

[NicFrenchy]

I would venture to say that straight and narrow Thai girls coming from good families are more conservative than Western culture. I can't even meet my GF's dad because we're not engaged and also my occupation isn't the most prestigious LOL.

I just think Thailand has a reputation because a lot of it is geared toward the western sex tourists.

I think she does not want to introduce you to Daddy because:

1. She has already a promised Thai BF.

2. She's just with you now and don't plan on keeping you in the future.

3. She already hinted to Daddy that she may date a Farang and the look on his face said it all: NO, NO and NO