Pattaya Reports

[MrManGuy]

So humor me.

Why do the high end soapies have a different (cheaper) rate card for japs / Koreans?

If they are happy to willingly pay higher rates for the same girl and Service, wouldn't the establishments charge them more without worrying about antagonizing them?

The money is in the Far East?

To say that all japs / Koreans are rich and splurge is similar to saying all Americans are rich or all Indians are poor. It's just a stupid statement.

In my previous life I sold homes to all races which included a whole bunch of Koreans and guess what, they are as demanding if not more than a typical westerner when it comes to money and goods.

The only observation I made is. Tourists who come for a week or less tend to spend a bit more and enjoy the time rather than nickel and dime at every place. To say that a certain race pays more for less is not a compliment but an insult IMHO.

Because of racism against us in Japan and Korea.

Asians are superior as customers in Thailand. They have more money than the average westerner and they stay at the best hotels and can afford the best hookers. Girls don't want to argue with some idiot American who thinks 1997 prices should still apply. They are there to make a profit and make the most profit with Asian customers. It pisses me off; as this low balling is making girls think twice about westerners.

How far this goes is anyone's guess. I won't pay much more than 7000 for LT and of it goes to 10 I won't go around saying the best girls are on beach road I'll say they are still in the GoGos but I won't pay what's being asked because its too much for me personally for what's on offer.

I am against members of this forum making out that the Koreans and Japanese are stupid and over paying for girls. They are just paying the market rate for quality. There is a lot of hidden racism against the Thai on here; implying that because a girl is thai then she can't be worth more than 1 k which is BS.

It's almost 2020. The world changed. Prices went up. Enjoy it or move; but don't make out like the best girls are 700 baht on beach road. What is on beach road are girls who can't work in establishments; ask yourself why? She is either a thief, has HIV or is too ugly for a bar. If she was a good looking part time freelancer she would be at ibar, with all the other lookers, but I don't recommend that either and those girls usually charge more than 1 k.

[Mr Enternational]

So humor me.
Why do the high end soapies have a different (cheaper) rate card for japs / Koreans?

I was about to ask the same question. How is everyone so privy to what the Japanese and Korean mongers pay chicks? For all we know they could be paying half as much as you.

[LoneWolff]

This just in new information: Top Pattaya girls do not want to do 3-4 ST and between 3-5k and between 5 and 7 k for LT rates with a handsome, young Korean (who have likely recently done military service and are fit as) or Japanese man and make potentially 20k in one night. They'd rather 500-700 baht (or 1/10) of the price to sleep with old American men by standing around on beach road.

Face it, in the modern world, the money is in Japan and Korea. That's where the girls go.

So humor me.

Why do the high end soapies have a different (cheaper) rate card for japs / Koreans?

If they are happy to willingly pay higher rates for the same girl and Service, wouldn't the establishments charge them more without worrying about antagonizing them?

The money is in the Far East?

To say that all japs / Koreans are rich and splurge is similar to saying all Americans are rich or all Indians are poor. It's just a stupid statement.

In my previous life I sold homes to all races which included a whole bunch of Koreans and guess what, they are as demanding if not more than a typical westerner when it comes to money and goods.

The only observation I made is. Tourists who come for a week or less tend to spend a bit more and enjoy the time rather than nickel and dime at every place. To say that a certain race pays more for less is not a compliment but an insult IMHO.

[MrManGuy]

This just in new information: Top Pattaya girls do not want to do 3-4 ST and between 3-5k and between 5 and 7 k for LT rates with a handsome, young Korean (who have likely recently done military service and are fit as) or Japanese man and make potentially 20k in one night. They'd rather 500-700 baht (or 1/10) of the price to sleep with old American men by standing around on beach road.

Face it, in the modern world, the money is in Japan and Korea. That's where the girls go.

[MrManGuy]

This is the biggest BS I read on this forum, admin should delete your post.

Experienced monger? You? LOL your posts say the opposite.

He has already lost its credibility a long time ago with his plaintive posts

All credible reviews give the same advice; it's not worth the risk. Giving people advice to go there is wrong. Just wrong.

Thailand is not as cheap as it once was but it is still cheap. Time people accepted 500 to 700ST doesn't exist in the way it may have in the past. But you can get 1000ST on Soi 6 where at least the girls are employed by the bar.

[Anon Mous]

I have been doing some research on which Russian Clubs to avoid on WS.

XO Club, Galaxy, Moulin Rouge.

Am I missing more?

Adding to that, are there any on LK Metro and Soi 6 which I need to avoid as well?

Appreciate the help.

Thanks.

Read my FR in the thread Foreign Sex Workers in Thailand and do yourself a huge favor. Avoid them like the plague.

[Christian G]

If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV.

This is the biggest BS I read on this forum, admin should delete your post.

I am an experienced monger who has been with many, many hookers

Experienced monger? You? LOL your posts say the opposite.

I think you just lost all credibility with the board with that statement.

He has already lost its credibility a long time ago with his plaintive posts

[JesseJames]

Pattaya attracts some real delusional weirdos. I consider myself a semi-professional degenerate but some of the people around Pattaya really take the first place for lack of personal awareness. I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere. I mean really, sending punters to beach road on a forum which is supposed to give mongering advice is just plain wrong.

Nobody will pay you anything. It will be the other way around. You'll do the paying, if you even had 10 Grand to pay, they might not accept it from a self described degenerate. Besides, we're not interested in your negative rants.

[Goatscrot]

Perhaps. But I can't say I have observed Asian men escorting the best looking Thai bargirls or Freelancers by any world standard around either Pattaya or Bangkok. Not even on par with the pics of girls self-identified Asians here have posted as prime examples of their gamesmanship. So I would say judging who would take the most impressive photo is a very different challenge than judging who would be the best partner in bed tonight. Just like it is for Westerners.

And the fact that I see more Asian men choosing blatantly obvious Ladyboys to take to their room than any other ethnic group draws into serious question their standards for assessing female beauty of any race anyway.

Must agree with you here Mr Tooms. Recently, in Bangkok, I have seen non-Thai Asian dudes, mainly Japanese and Koreans, with gals I would not give a second look. Who do I see the best looking Thai gals with? That's easy, Thai men who obviously have money. And as far as the Pattaya GoGos are concerned, I had the occasion to be in Sensations a few weeks ago. Jeez, never seen such bad surgery and the number of gals who were overweight was shocking. Some of the dancers were wearing panty hose FFS!

[EihTooms]

And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture.

Perhaps. But I can't say I have observed Asian men escorting the best looking Thai bargirls or Freelancers by any world standard around either Pattaya or Bangkok. Not even on par with the pics of girls self-identified Asians here have posted as prime examples of their gamesmanship. So I would say judging who would take the most impressive photo is a very different challenge than judging who would be the best partner in bed tonight. Just like it is for Westerners.

And the fact that I see more Asian men choosing blatantly obvious Ladyboys to take to their room than any other ethnic group draws into serious question their standards for assessing female beauty of any race anyway.

[Mr Enternational]

I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere.

I think you just lost all credibility with the board with that statement. You and JohnyJo are obviously not aware of the dynamics of the chicks on Beach Road.

[MrManGuy]

Statistically speaking, you are incorrect. When I hear crap like beauty is in the eye of the beholder and such, it's only true when applied to a single opinion or view point. The clubs I mention, generate the most money of all the Go Go bars on Walking Street. So common sense says most money usually means most customers, means better girls, less turnover, and nicer set up and fixtures. Of course there is always an exception here and there. If you don't think so, ask the girls themselves. Go ask a girl at Windmill, why isn't she working at Baccara? Ask a Baccara girl about Windmill and she will tell you "never heard of the place." And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture. It's the same like everywhere in the world. I've seen so many Westerners on there first trip to an Asian country and pay for sex with the most below average looking Asian hooker. I ask if they would have pay for sex with street crack working girls in the USA? They say "no way. " I say back. "Why are you doing that here in Thailand?

When in a relationship you can consider your partner to be the most attractive person in the world and you can get to the point where you won't be interested in women who are objectively more attractive.

With hookers, its objective. To a degree also subjective around your preference for what kind of attractive lady. When I first went to Oase, I found nearly all the girls attractive but I picked ladies with darker features and olive skin, while others would prefer blondes. That it is more around windmill vs baccara or red head vs blonde. I think most of the girls on WS are fairly consistent. Some are just preferred by Asian customers because they're marginally more attractive. I like the little brown skinned ladies. Others don't. Would I go to Baccara if I was Asian enough? Probably, their girls are a little bit better. Us white people are definitely tier 2 in pattaya. Koreans and Japanese are much more sex crazy and willing to spend big.

[MrManGuy]

Yes but I'm talking about normal girls, and good looking, not homeless from 'coconut bar' - beach road, there is 80% sick HIV: So good for you mr. 500' enjoy! .

Pattaya attracts some real delusional weirdos. I consider myself a semi-professional degenerate but some of the people around Pattaya really take the first place for lack of personal awareness. I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere. I mean really, sending punters to beach road on a forum which is supposed to give mongering advice is just plain wrong.

[MrManGuy]

From what I've seen recently uploaded on YouTube the beach road talent looks about the same as what I've seen it before, a sampling of all walks of life including some decent lookers. The good lookers don't last very long, sometimes minutes of taking up their position on the street. I've seen some cute girls get dropped off by motobike 100 feet from me and before I could get over to talk to them they were picked up. I have found a few good ones off beach road but the majority were disappointing. I only do the beach road tour when I'm either coming or going from WS. Link to a beach road video below where the guy really focuses on only getting the working girls in his video, he must edit out tons of footage to get so many good up close shots of the girls. Girl at 29 seconds into the video in the grey top looks pretty good, same with the girl at 5:44 in the black shorts. 5:54 in the background on the left should have been zoomed in on over the chubby one. Same guy has also shot some footage of the freelancers in Bangkok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzdZ0L2YD9c

I am an experienced monger who has been with many, many hookers and I would not touch a single hooker from beach road no matter if she looked like some really attractive celebrity that you like. There are ample ladies around Pattaya who do not carry the same risks. If any decent young or old chaps are reading this. Save yourself the potential disaster and get girls from reputable venues. It is only a few bucks, which is nothing in the scheme of things.

[SamWise1]

Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.

I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.

Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes. Lots of girls at 8 pm though. I chose the best one I could find and goofed around with her for an hour before rushing over to Walking Street.

Walked into Honey 2 for fun. Certainly better than Soi 6 level but nothing worth 2400(?) baht. Walked into Sabai Room. One pretty girl with short hair stood out #43. if she were a gogo girl or worked in any bar I would be buying her lady drinks. However, she's in a soapie! I contemplated getting a mechanical soapie and my smarter head decided not to.

I value your reports Banana Boi. Look like the talent after the holidays is very limited. I was planning my trip next month and worried now that it will be hunt for good girls!