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  1. #4823
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    You miss the point. Again.

    Breakthrough infections happen.
    We are now discovering that infections happen just as easily to vaccinated people. Thousands of them have contracted and passed on the virus. Yes, even to their children! Which doesn't matter because children are less vulnerable to covid than to flu.

    Of course this was not how the "vaccine" was sold. It was sold like other vaccines. Measles, mumps, rubella, Hep be, etc. In that once you've got it you are totally immune.

    Instead, we now find out that it doesn't work, and there have been over 500,000 adverse effects reported on the VAERS system (a small fraction of the actual number).

    Yet again, Fauci lied. He funded the virus. He lied and twisted with the political wind about it. And then he lied about the effectiveness of the gene therapy "vaccine". Why isn't he (along with Whitmer, Cuomo, Bill and Hillary, Podesta and many others) in jail?

  2. #4822
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    And I know the anti-vax Trumpsters who fell for Trump's year long lies about how "It's a Democrat Party HOAX! We've got this under control. It will go away WITHOUT a vaccine!", discouraging anyone from bothering to invent a vaccine or take one even if a manufacturer is "foolish" enough to bother inventing one"
    What on earth are you blabbering on about? The virus came to America in 2020. Within the same year, Trump had not only encouraged and supported companies in inventing a vaccine, he had got it approved and into use.

    Hardly a "year long lie that it would go away without a vaccine", is it? You really need to put a little more nuance into your lies: I doubt even Pelosi would put out such an unqualified whopper. Then again.

  3. #4821
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    "not everyone who chooses to not take an unproven vaccine is a 'MAGA". Maybe, however: "The vaccination rate among White evangelical Protestants continues to lag behind those of other major religious groups: 57% of White evangelicals say they have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, compared with 73% of White Protestants who are not evangelicals, 75% of religiously unaffiliated adults and 82% of Catholics," reported Pew. And show me a white evangelical who isn't a MAGAt. https://www.au.org/blogs/christian-n...b9FDtZcWY0eCTw.

    I guess it really is true that scientists hid the "genius gene" in the vaccine, considering how many of the unvaccinated aren't.
    The group in America with the lowest level vaccination is blacks. Not known for their support of Republicans.

  4. #4820
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Great post and totally right, Chris!

    It is amazing how quickly things will change. Newsom gets a recall movement because of Covid, and now you have Whitmer of Michigan agreeing to this: Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and the state legislature have agreed on a budget proposal that includes language banning health officials from enforcing mask mandates in schools and preventing state public agencies from enforcing vaccines on employees or customers.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/whitmer-m...cine-passports

    Biden's popularity on Covid is already down 10%, and the polling in Iowa showing disapproval for Biden is scaring the snot out of Democrats.

    The one thing you can be sure of with these dictatorial Democratic is that like with Whitmer the one thing that will convince these to run from the "science" is negative polling. When the pols like Whitmer start advocating for personal choice over mandates on the vaccines, you can be assured these douches will say, "I never was in favor of mandates."

    In the mean time, if Republicans can make this FDA blow dart loving bureaucrat as the face of the Democratic party, they will clean up in November: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI2D8GLPYr4.
    Excellent post. In fact Whitmer. Like many senior democrats. Should be in prison, on manslaughter charges for her deliberate forcing of elderly care homes to accept covid positive people, which resulted in the deaths of many of the state's most vulnerable. Most of whom were from a demographic that leans republican, which undoubtedly factored into her scheme.

    As the old saying goes, lock her up.

    As for cleaning up in November, in a serious and secure election I have no doubt the republicans would clean up next year (as they would have last year).

    Unfortunately, in today's clown world of millions of "mail-in" ballots spammed out to whoever, wherever and "collected" en masse by democrat operatives; democrat-controlled cities ejecting GOP observers from the count, pausing it when things aren't going their way and suddenly "discovering" a pallot of just the hundreds of thousands of 98% democrat votes they need to win; and millions of democrat-voting illegals pouring over the border and being sent by Biden's handlers to swing states where they are sure to pick up a ballot or ten: one can never be too sure.

  5. #4819
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    "If Joe Biden says to take it, I'm not takin' it, but if doctors say to take it, I will."

    There. Fixed it for you.
    Witch doctors?

  6. #4818

    The Big Lie Confirmed

    Even the the partisan audit in Arizona has failed to find any evidence of fraud. In fact Biden increased his lead. How is Trump going to get feeble minded republicans to give him money now? What is the next grift from the worlds biggest grifter? The time and money wasted so some lowlife failed entrepreneur can sooth his bruised ego!

  7. #4817

    Oops

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Great post and totally right, Chris!

    It is amazing how quickly things will change. Newsom gets a recall movement because of Covid, and now you have Whitmer of Michigan agreeing to this: Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and the state legislature have agreed on a budget proposal that includes language banning health officials from enforcing mask mandates in schools and preventing state public agencies from enforcing vaccines on employees or customers.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/whitmer-m...cine-passports

    Biden's popularity on Covid is already down 10%, and the polling in Iowa showing disapproval for Biden is scaring the snot out of Democrats.

    The one thing you can be sure of with these dictatorial Democratic is that like with Whitmer the one thing that will convince these to run from the "science" is negative polling. When the pols like Whitmer start advocating for personal choice over mandates on the vaccines, you can be assured these douches will say, "I never was in favor of mandates."

    In the mean time, if Republicans can make this FDA blow dart loving bureaucrat as the face of the Democratic party, they will clean up in November: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI2D8GLPYr4.
    Does the Michigan governor have a line-item veto? Yes she does.

    What is the likelihood of the "mask mandate prohibition" surviving the line item veto? About as likely as a Republican giving a hoot about anybody other than themselves.

  8. #4816
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    Here you go:

    If Joe Biden says to take it, I'm not takin' it.
    "If Joe Biden says to take it, I'm not takin' it, but if doctors say to take it, I will."

    There. Fixed it for you.

  9. #4815
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    If that's the case, Biden and Kamala should have to pay for all expenses out of their own pockets. They told the American public not to trust any vaccine developed during the Trump admin (which means don't trust any of the vaccines since they were all developed during the Trump admin.).
    Oh, by all means put that lie in your letter to the insurance company too and see how it goes.

    And I know the anti-vax Trumpsters who fell for Trump's year long lies about how "It's a Democrat Party HOAX! We've got this under control. It will go away WITHOUT a vaccine!", discouraging anyone from bothering to invent a vaccine or take one even if a manufacturer is "foolish" enough to bother inventing one, won't even think of turning to tax-payer funded government subsidies and bailouts in Obamacare to save their ass and their house, right?

    Because, you know, "Freedumb!"

  10. #4814

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Krispy Kritter only has about 12 talking points, all of which he stole from Fucker Carlson and all of which are complete BS. He recycles all of them and thinks we won't notice.
    The 99.9% talking point, though a lie on its face is still heavily schewed as it takes into account all ages. So when you have some 50,60+ year old Trumpster reciting that stat it's drastically higher for them if unvaccinated.

  11. #4813
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]

    On the negative side, as we have seen from over half a million VAERS reports in less than a year, it does quite a lot.

    For people in vulnerable groups (elderly, obese, people with severe pre-existing conditions) it is probably worth taking the vaccine. But for healthy people under 50, the likelihood of severe negative reaction to the vax is the same or more than the likelihood of severe negative reaction to covid. Both very low.

    We cannot eradicate covid. It will always be with us. The "vaccine" option is there for people who wish to probably ameliorate their symptoms if and when they get it. But it does not come near to the level of justifying the destruction of constitutional freedoms and bodily autonomy of American citizens.
    Great post and totally right, Chris!

    It is amazing how quickly things will change. Newsom gets a recall movement because of Covid, and now you have Whitmer of Michigan agreeing to this: Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and the state legislature have agreed on a budget proposal that includes language banning health officials from enforcing mask mandates in schools and preventing state public agencies from enforcing vaccines on employees or customers.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/whitmer-m...cine-passports

    Biden's popularity on Covid is already down 10%, and the polling in Iowa showing disapproval for Biden is scaring the snot out of Democrats.

    The one thing you can be sure of with these dictatorial Democratic is that like with Whitmer the one thing that will convince these to run from the "science" is negative polling. When the pols like Whitmer start advocating for personal choice over mandates on the vaccines, you can be assured these douches will say, "I never was in favor of mandates."

    In the mean time, if Republicans can make this FDA blow dart loving bureaucrat as the face of the Democratic party, they will clean up in November: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI2D8GLPYr4.

  12. #4812
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Covered this already when Golfinho, tried to make the same claim:

    And here, when you again made this false claim:

    I then asked:

    Care to "double down" on that falsehood again?
    Here you go:

    If Joe Biden says to take it, I'm not takin' it.

  13. #4811

    Intentionally obtuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    Then you've got nothing to worry about from the unvaccinated. Mind your own business and party on.
    You miss the point. Again.

    Breakthrough infections happen. So an unvaccinated COVIDiot can pass the infection to a vaccinated who can infect his minor children who can't yet be vaccinated. What part of this don't you understand?

    No vaccine is 100% effective. Here's proof: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...ons-180978408/.

  14. #4810

    Nope, Nah, Not Even...

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    If that's the case, Biden and Kamala should have to pay for all expenses out of their own pockets. They told the American public not to trust any vaccine developed during the Trump admin (which means don't trust any of the vaccines since they were all developed during the Trump admin.).
    Covered this already when Golfinho, tried to make the same claim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    What's completely shameful, is your blatant misrepresentation of her quote and completely taken out of context, when you only provided as a partial quote.

    HARRIS on VACCINE: "If the Doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely." "But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I'm not taking it.".

    I for one, wouldn't believe a fucking word out of Agent Orange's Clorox bleach mouth, let alone take medical advice. Have at it, if wish to take medical advice from the "Orange Pied Piper".
    And here, when you again made this false claim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    ... It seems he saw Biden and Kamala's early videos of them saying not to trust the vaccines since the vaccines were created during the Trump admin so he didn't get vaccinated.
    I then asked:

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Sure, I'll play along... So where's / what's your source for this, where Biden and Kamala Harris actually say this to the American public?
    Care to "double down" on that falsehood again?

  15. #4809
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    If that's the case, Biden and Kamala should have to pay for all expenses out of their own pockets. They told the American public not to trust any vaccine developed during the Trump admin (which means don't trust any of the vaccines since they were all developed during the Trump admin.).
    The real truth is here: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...accines-not-v/.

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