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  1. #5080
    Quote Originally Posted by KaveMan  [View Original Post]
    This exact experience has happened to me like 12 times. Actually, happened within 10 minutes of my first visit to Globe in 2014.

    My instinctual reaction was consider the source: a Prostitute.

    After 7 years, I think this is still the biggest risk to the newcomer expecting VIP experience; even worse than sharking, bad session, $ theft or even a night-mugging in tunnel at train station.

    Its definitely disturbing.

    There is a certain sociopathic component to prostitutes, who are dissociated from their intimacy and they react this way.
    Let me disagree on that; much better a refusal (possibly polite, but any refusal) than a bad session. Or, I see a refusal the best way to avoid a mediocre session; that is the biggest risk a punter can run, not the refusal. I am the first who do not want to have a session, if the girl is not convinced 100%.

  2. #5079
    For fans, Mara now with silicon is at Cleo, super GFE, can have her for 30 mn for only 129 including entry including drinks and foods. Had fresh look with no tattoo, really cute Aida ex Globe at Cleo, but not wow level in bed. Mara was higher level, but not wow look enough to repeat. Ambra is told to be a real beauty at Cleo, maybe will have to give a look on my way to Ventoux.

  3. #5078
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    Exactly the point I was trying to make. And indeed: if refusal is polite, no harm done and go for the next girl. But an arrogant refusal with many dedain (towards you, and towards men in general) definitely kills the mood, also for me as a regular. As long as it is 1 or 2 girls, ok, but when it becomes more and more, a reason to go look elsewhere.
    When many seem disappointed by girls now at Globe, for me biggest problem being looks with average faces, too much silicon and tattoos, more than behavior, and also lack of elegance and charm, so yes, better to go elsewhere. When Globe was on my way for my Summer sport, but after my 2 visits, even I enjoyed new Swiss, and even very complicated with cars on this Summer for me, but I preferred to drive more kilometers to enjoy better and for less expensive, even driving from Aachen through Germany and Austria to Austrian / Swiss / Italian borders to improve my climbing Prato up to Stelvio. I relax and recover when driving except in Switzerland but Ok in Umbrail / Stelvio, or Fluelepass around Davos, or Julierpass or Berninapass around Saint Moritz to Livigno.

  4. #5077
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    Exactly the point I was trying to make. And indeed: if refusal is polite, no harm done and go for the next girl. But an arrogant refusal with many dedain (towards you, and towards men in general) definitely kills the mood, also for me as a regular. As long as it is 1 or 2 girls, ok, but when it becomes more and more, a reason to go look elsewhere.
    I see, we agree, not much can be done if the girl is rude. I never had a girl be really rude to me, the most rude for me was when I was completely ignored when saying Hello.

  5. #5076
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    I understand that a girl refusing a client can kill the mood, but the WGs should have this right. There are plenty of creepy clients. If we start again the discussion about girls refusing clients just because they expect a short session, well, that is just supply and demand. Why should Sofia go with a guy for 30 minutes when she has guaranteed many long sessions during a day. The only thing I would expect is that the refusal is polite "I wait for somebody", "I don't think we have good chemistry" etc. Even as a regular, there were situations when I was refused. I accept it and go to the next girl. It's better than the girl being forced to accept to make a room and then performing poorly in the room.

    Once the room is accepted by the girl then she has to respect the Globe service standard. No negotiation or discussion about DFK, BBJ or covered sex. 30 minutes are 30 minutes and one hour is one hour. No repeated bazar style upselling of extras, if the client is not interested then it's the end of the discussion. Feedback around these issues is usually taken seriously by management. Management keeps track of both good and bad feedback and intervenes.
    Exactly the point I was trying to make. And indeed: if refusal is polite, no harm done and go for the next girl. But an arrogant refusal with many dedain (towards you, and towards men in general) definitely kills the mood, also for me as a regular. As long as it is 1 or 2 girls, ok, but when it becomes more and more, a reason to go look elsewhere.

  6. #5075
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Did you ever force a girl to go to room? I never did and to be fair, no girl never forced me to go with her.
    FKK is brothel, you just have to pay, no need for convincing or forcing to go to room to have sex in any ways you want LOL!

  7. #5074
    Did you ever force a girl to go to room? I never did and to be fair, no girl never forced me to go with her.

  8. #5073
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    The only thing I would expect is that the refusal is polite "I wait for somebody", "I don't think we have good chemistry" etc. Even as a regular, there were situations when I was refused. I accept it and go to the next girl. It's better than the girl being forced to accept to make a room and then performing poorly in the room.
    I had what I considered a very rude rejection from Estefania earlier this year. I asked her if she wanted to go to the room, she said we could go but to give her 5 - 10 minutes for her food to go down.

    She then proceed to walk around talking to other men in the club trying to get them to go to the room, presumably hoping they would be bigger spenders. She didn't return to me after 10 minutes not that I had any intention of going with her at that point.

    If she didn't want to go with me using one of your examples would have been much better than lying about waiting for her food to go down.

  9. #5072
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    The rule is: if you, as a girl, go to the room with a man (and take his money) you should perform on Globe level (if not, customer complaints are taking very seriously). But if the girl refuses you (in whatever rude way) there is no way to complay. This is why more and more girls simply ignore you or refuse you, waiting for a big whale (4-6 hours in the room, with little sex, easy money for the girls, see other messages about this). Very bad attitude, not only towards men, but also to their own business IMHO, but ok. Happily there are still enough girls that are willing to please you for 30-60 minutes.
    I understand that a girl refusing a client can kill the mood, but the WGs should have this right. There are plenty of creepy clients. If we start again the discussion about girls refusing clients just because they expect a short session, well, that is just supply and demand. Why should Sofia go with a guy for 30 minutes when she has guaranteed many long sessions during a day. The only thing I would expect is that the refusal is polite "I wait for somebody", "I don't think we have good chemistry" etc. Even as a regular, there were situations when I was refused. I accept it and go to the next girl. It's better than the girl being forced to accept to make a room and then performing poorly in the room.

    Once the room is accepted by the girl then she has to respect the Globe service standard. No negotiation or discussion about DFK, BBJ or covered sex. 30 minutes are 30 minutes and one hour is one hour. No repeated bazar style upselling of extras, if the client is not interested then it's the end of the discussion. Feedback around these issues is usually taken seriously by management. Management keeps track of both good and bad feedback and intervenes.

  10. #5071
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    The rule is: if you, as a girl, go to the room with a man (and take his money) you should perform on Globe level (if not, customer complaints are taking very seriously). But if the girl refuses you (in whatever rude way) there is no way to complay. This is why more and more girls simply ignore you or refuse you, waiting for a big whale (4-6 hours in the room, with little sex, easy money for the girls, see other messages about this). Very bad attitude, not only towards men, but also to their own business IMHO, but ok. Happily there are still enough girls that are willing to please you for 30-60 minutes.
    What is Globe level for sex? Are girls behaving same in bed with all of us? When some are rabbits, some go for therapy without sex, or many are not kissing as say girls. Of course girls should be free to refuse, when they should be free independent, are they really? Girls are able to switch off brain to kiss and suck a fat old ugly, when I would not be able for anything if I felt I disgust the girl, so I don t insist nor complain on desk. I m just happy when I find a attractive girl meaning natural beauty with a bit of elegance and charm who welcome me and come to me. My favorite game is to find in FKK land when Globe is only 1 club among many others.

  11. #5070
    Quote Originally Posted by KaveMan  [View Original Post]
    On the first 2014 visit; I complained immediately to the skinny older ugly female manager at the time.

    She shot back "Did this happen in the room? When I said I refused a room, she said "you are are on your own".

    I saw then there is a gray area where the Club doesn't care; Aphro too, but they give refunds at least.

    There were multiple variations of this rudeness. My internal rudeness compass is finer than the Richter / Geiger scale and I avoid these toxic freaks.
    The rule is: if you, as a girl, go to the room with a man (and take his money) you should perform on Globe level (if not, customer complaints are taking very seriously). But if the girl refuses you (in whatever rude way) there is no way to complay. This is why more and more girls simply ignore you or refuse you, waiting for a big whale (4-6 hours in the room, with little sex, easy money for the girls, see other messages about this). Very bad attitude, not only towards men, but also to their own business IMHO, but ok. Happily there are still enough girls that are willing to please you for 30-60 minutes.

  12. #5069
    Quote Originally Posted by KaveMan  [View Original Post]
    On the first 2014 visit; I complained immediately to the skinny older ugly female manager at the time.

    She shot back "Did this happen in the room? When I said I refused a room, she said "you are are on your own".

    I saw then there is a gray area where the Club doesn't care; Aphro too, but they give refunds at least.

    There were multiple variations of this rudeness. My internal rudeness compass is finer than the Richter / Geiger scale and I avoid these toxic freaks.
    Oh, so that means that we clients side can do whatever the fuck we want in the room and reply did it happened in the room? Then you are on your own LOL!

    Either way, I found Globe service behind the door in the room to be amazing, so far Ingo did amazing job to keep service level high at Globe and line up is arguably good most of time, but line up can get better!

  13. #5068
    When many German fat old uglies used to complain crying on Bruggen. De desk, a bad guy like me don't need to complain on desk about girls as long they don't try to fuck me about money. I never complained at Globe nor GT Bruggen. I had a very average room, my lowest, with smiling pretty face Lisa. Ro, previous one, not the one at the moment, and I was frustrated but it was my fault: on Summer 2019, so I proposed her to go on roof, but at 7.30 pm it was too cold for her and beds are too bad, too uncomfortable, so only fast sex for 30 mn, low level for me, but my bad choice for the place, even I think Lisa was higher level for welcoming smiling behavior in lounge than in bed.

  14. #5067
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    but if this happened complain to the desk
    On the first 2014 visit; I complained immediately to the skinny older ugly female manager at the time.

    She shot back "Did this happen in the room? When I said I refused a room, she said "you are are on your own".

    I saw then there is a gray area where the Club doesn't care; Aphro too, but they give refunds at least.

    There were multiple variations of this rudeness. My internal rudeness compass is finer than the Richter / Geiger scale and I avoid these toxic freaks.

  15. #5066
    Quote Originally Posted by KaveMan  [View Original Post]
    This exact experience has happened to me like 12 times. Actually, happened within 10 minutes of my first visit to Globe in 2014.

    My instinctual reaction was consider the source: a Prostitute.

    After 7 years, I think this is still the biggest risk to the newcomer expecting VIP experience; even worse than sharking, bad session, $ theft or even a night-mugging in tunnel at train station.

    Its definitely disturbing.

    There is a certain sociopathic component to prostitutes, who are dissociated from their intimacy and they react this way.
    I never had such experience and it is hard to imagine this happening in Globe where I found how girls are both in and outside rooms to be top notch, but if this happened complain to the desk or Ingo as each complaint can lead to better quality of the club as Ingo do seems to care about how Globe service is as that is the competitive advantage of Globe.

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