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  1. #1339
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    USA got shit terrible football teams. So nobody in their right mind would ever get paid 1 billion $ from football.

    This very idea says it all, you have absolutely NO idea what football even is.

    And no, football is not some handball with breaks every 20 seconds like what you play in the states. Calling a national league for the World Series etc. And Superbowl? What is this? Some childish game? Reminds me of Sega Mega Drive. Might as well name the contest 'Super Mega Duper Galactic Finals'.

    P.S. : I admit I am clueless regarding that sport you play. So just admit you are clueless regarding football too! Because you are.
    Got caught in a lie, now deflects with jokes and insults. Would fit in great in the our American White House.

    $1 billion athlete. Still laughing that he thought that would go unnoticed. What a blow to credibility for future claims. LOL.

  2. #1338
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    USA got shit terrible football teams. So nobody in their right mind would ever get paid 1 billion $ from football.

    This very idea says it all, you have absolutely NO idea what football even is.

    And no, football is not some handball with breaks every 20 seconds like what you play in the states. Calling a national league for the World Series etc. And Superbowl? What is this? Some childish game? Reminds me of Sega Mega Drive. Might as well name the contest 'Super Mega Duper Galactic Finals'.

    P.S. : I admit I am clueless regarding that sport you play. So just admit you are clueless regarding football too! Because you are.
    I like soccer too and I do pretend like I know what I am talking about when I sit and watch these games in FKK lounges LOL. However, I can never understand why Messi is supposed to be the best of all time when he can't win shit playing for his country. And I secretly admit I do enjoy seeing the penalty shootouts after 90 minutes of tied score. BTW, why can't the English ever win anything and please no tall tales of some long gone glory days eons ago.

    But yes, real football is played in USA while they do play authentic soccer in Europe and a more aesthetic game down in Brazil (used to).

    Peace.

  3. #1337
    Pessimist:

    1. How do you explain the Mars surface with the tectinic drift theory without any expansion of the planet?

    As we do see a rift opening, but there are no signs of any plates moving underneath another plate.

    Or are Earth a one of a kind? Just like the old idea where we believed the earth was the center of the solar system?

    2. How do you explain the size of the dinosaurs unless earths gravity was far weaker in the past? Or perhaps even that the 100 million year old bones themselves also have expanded since they died?

    Some of whom would have dangerous neck injuries just from turning 90 degrees.

    3. If the continents that formed Pangaea have moved apart since then (as in the Atlantic ocean, Indian ocean etc), how can the pacific ocean still be almost half a hemisphere?

    Remember the Pangaea continent alone was just over half a hemisphere by itself too. We see that in earth samples showing where the poles and equator was.

    4. All the seafloor is very newly formed on the earth. American geological satellites have confirmed this. And hardly any ocean floor is more than 50 million years old. Except for parts of the Mediterranean. And there are no subduction zones as mountains grow where the expansion is on land instead of on the seafloor. In fact, all the most recent seafloor are on mountain ridges underneath the oceans. But the land crust is making it harder for the lava to break through, so we get a bulge or a spike upwards instead.

    5. Why would only the universe expand at an accelerated pace, and not everything within it? Are you saying there are no universal laws of physics? Or does you physics only work where you allow it to?

    6. The amount of books written on religion and how the earth was the center of the universe was in the thousands before Gallileo Gallilei got hanged for questioning the beliefs of thousands of scholars.

  4. #1336
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    And sorry, there is tons of scientific research on this, and one does not have to watch any YouTube videos to know about these things. More important is to actually understand what is already existing in today's scientific realm.
    I will not waste time responding to all of your post. At least since most of it is well answered in the 1982 documentary regarding the expanding earth theory that I linked you. YouTube is a great site where people can share information. You may not like YouTube, but it can have many purposes. For both good and bad. In this documentary, a professor at the University of Tasmania, who wrote a book on the expanding earth theory is interviewed. And he explains it all. Quite simple. He also was a lecturer at Yale.

    Now to the idea of beliefs. The argument the critics usually come with against this growing earth theory; which is in fact nearly 150 years old, is that we do not know where all the new matter comes from. But I would argue that this might either be related to some quantum physical black / white hole phenomenon. Or some higgs boson concentration where gravity is higher. Or a combination of both.

    But I hope for the sake of your own credibility that we can agree on one thing: physics are jammed full of theories. Proof only goes so far.

    This however has not been proven either way, but I am leaning towards saying the expanding earth theory has the highest chance of being right. 80-20.

  5. #1335
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    For millenials with ADHD posting an image with a quote on it, that is a "news article", like this one with Woody Harrelson: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/c...me_wise_words/.
    Yeah, I hate that stuff, and it is spreading.

    I have yet to read some studies on it though, but long clickbait headlines do have purpose (aside from just generating revenue per click). They make people click, and that in turn makes them more susceptible to actually reading the article. Unfortunately, those pictures there have no hidden article behind them, and there is nothing more to click on.

  6. #1334
    USA got shit terrible football teams. So nobody in their right mind would ever get paid 1 billion $ from football.

    This very idea says it all, you have absolutely NO idea what football even is.

    And no, football is not some handball with breaks every 20 seconds like what you play in the states. Calling a national league for the World Series etc. And Superbowl? What is this? Some childish game? Reminds me of Sega Mega Drive. Might as well name the contest 'Super Mega Duper Galactic Finals'.

    P.S. : I admit I am clueless regarding that sport you play. So just admit you are clueless regarding football too! Because you are.

  7. #1333
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Still a $1 billion footballer? Liar. LOL.
    Actually, 100 billion. Who counts in $ anyway? Lets go pound!

  8. #1332
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I thought I had already explained to you why you haven't even heard of the expanding / growing earth theory.

    Ok, I will try to explain a bit more:

    'Burn all the books!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning

    What we have witnessed with the censoring of the expanding earth theory for the past 6 years is nothing but modern day censorship, and the advocates ro the theory are framed as heretics. Or even conspiracy theorists who say the theory on continental drift is wrong. As I already wrote, school books don't even mention this.

    A google search on Albert Einstein only shows he believed in the expanding universe theory, but you have to look really deep to find any hints of the fact that he read a book regarding the expanding by a certain author I forgot the name of now, and he responded that he did agree with him. The earth is expanding. I will try to find the source again, but it is a bit hard.
    Sorry, there is no "growing earth theory" for the simple fact that it is not growing. At least no credible theory. But if you must believe such a theory, so be it.

    As for Einstein. It is not a question of what he believed. He was a scientist and the very best physicist of all time and it was not about what he believed (as if it is a matter of faith) but what he knew and what was proved. At first, Einstein's model of the universe was a static universe because at the time he proposed his general relativity in 1915, that was the understanding of cosmologists. In mid 1920's, Hubble established that there were galaxies; up to then, we knew only Milky way and did not even know about other galaxies. Einstein then abandoned his cosmological constant which he had introduced in his general theory model to make it work for a static universe (that in itself is amazing. The greatest scientist of all time tweaked his equation and randomly inserted a constant in his equation, as school kids do, just to make it work for the world that was known then). He called it his greatest blunder. Many years later, Alan Guth (among others) came up with the inflationary theory of the universe and this fits the current known observations about red shift. All of these talk about universe at massive scales. I. e. Space between galaxies which is much larger than the size of any galaxy itself. There is NO science which claims a given star system or worse yet a single planet is stretching as a result of some inflationary theory.

    And sorry, there is tons of scientific research on this, and one does not have to watch any YouTube videos to know about these things. More important is to actually understand what is already existing in today's scientific realm.

    All this said, I will leave you to your views. Your views are yours, mine are mine. Cheers.

  9. #1331
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    As I wrote, this is the narrative pushed by "dietitians and fitness gurus". I honestly cannot say I believed it or disregarded it as outright bullshit. If I am not knowledgeable on a subject, I prefer to defer to others who I trust. But whether it is true or not, it is the most parroted narrative. You have a generation of people with ADHD, who surely will take it as gospel. Influencers who often have zero academic or scientific background dominate the dialogue. Not intellectuals. If you don't have a reality TV show host personality, nobody seems to listen. In the 18-29 age group, 36 percent of Americans get their news from social media. My guess is they actually only read the headline and briefly stare at the image or caption, and then scroll to the next thing in their newsfeed, allowing them to read 30 "articles" in about 15 seconds. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...a-news-source/.

    For millenials with ADHD posting an image with a quote on it, that is a "news article", like this one with Woody Harrelson: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/c...me_wise_words/.
    Right, same point. Sexy lies spread faster than boring truths. Your example illustrated how easy it was to sell people on a planned, clandestine conspiracy when the truth was just boring economics and presentation of research data.

    I dare say that conspiracy theorists share that same characteristic with religious fanatics. Science and facts is boring so they defer to mythology and more interesting what ifs. Both share the same disconnect, lack of reason. Both are dangerous when they propagate their theories and mythologies as truths.

  10. #1330
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    BTW, that sugar bribery conspiracy was also bullshit that also took hold because as they say, lies spread faster than facts. You quoted then Kearns research but her work would later be deemed an unfair condemnation of the Harvard researchers from the 60's. Here's a nice editorial pointing out her bias condemnation of dead men who were just doing there jobs:

    https://www.foodnavigator-asia.com/A...ent-conspiracy

    Point is, this wasn't a conspiracy like Kearns painted it out to be. It was a case of economic interests funding sound data and a lack of convincing data from the opposition. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was just capitalism.
    As I wrote, this is the narrative pushed by "dietitians and fitness gurus". I honestly cannot say I believed it or disregarded it as outright bullshit. If I am not knowledgeable on a subject, I prefer to defer to others who I trust. But whether it is true or not, it is the most parroted narrative. You have a generation of people with ADHD, who surely will take it as gospel. Influencers who often have zero academic or scientific background dominate the dialogue. Not intellectuals. If you don't have a reality TV show host personality, nobody seems to listen. In the 18-29 age group, 36 percent of Americans get their news from social media. My guess is they actually only read the headline and briefly stare at the image or caption, and then scroll to the next thing in their newsfeed, allowing them to read 30 "articles" in about 15 seconds. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...a-news-source/.

    For millenials with ADHD posting an image with a quote on it, that is a "news article", like this one with Woody Harrelson: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/c...me_wise_words/.

  11. #1329
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Mursenary: You don't really get it do you? Everything is capitalism. Capitalism, or money is the tool used for selfish reasons.

    What you define as a conspiracy, or investigative work is just different ways of fram.

    Every opponent in a discussion can frame the opponents views as a conspiracy.

    I could point to 2 or 3 things in your last post alone here as say these are nothing but conspiracy theories. But again, that is just a way of framing your points in a way to discredit its merits.

    Each side in a discussion always claim the other side has faulty research. And as with wars, with either weapons or pens, history is written by the victors.
    Okay?

    Is it a conspiracy? No, no secret plan. Just one side producing sound research and the opposition unable or not investing the effort to do the same.

    Still a $1 billion footballer? Liar. LOL.

  12. #1328
    Pessimist: here is one documentary on it from 1982.

    https://youtu.be/Othb0xsvZb4

  13. #1327
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Pistons,

    I never heard that earth is expanding in size. Where did you get that from? And it is most certainly not related to the accelerated expansion of the universe, which is *a theory*. Fact is that none of us will ever know if the universe is expanding at an accelerated pace, and if that acceleration jumped up a notch 4 to 6 billion years ago. What these are, they are theories based on some observations and matching them with the math. But those theories ONLY pertain space between galaxies. Even a given galaxy is not getting stretched apart, and most certainly planets are not stretching nor is my living room growing in size every year. Would be nice if it happened, but it is not.
    I thought I had already explained to you why you haven't even heard of the expanding / growing earth theory.

    Ok, I will try to explain a bit more:

    'Burn all the books!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning

    What we have witnessed with the censoring of the expanding earth theory for the past 6 years is nothing but modern day censorship, and the advocates ro the theory are framed as heretics. Or even conspiracy theorists who say the theory on continental drift is wrong. As I already wrote, school books don't even mention this.

    A google search on Albert Einstein only shows he believed in the expanding universe theory, but you have to look really deep to find any hints of the fact that he read a book regarding the expanding by a certain author I forgot the name of now, and he responded that he did agree with him. The earth is expanding. I will try to find the source again, but it is a bit hard.

  14. #1326
    I would never lay blame on this corona outbreak on certain individuals for being pro capitalism. Hell, I believe in determinism, and that even these guys are nothing but sheep themselves.

    The problem that created the string of event that lead people to panic over the collapse of world capitalism, well: automation is an oxymoron for capitalism itself. Yet absolutely vital in order to compete. So one thing cannot survive without the other.

    We just need 2 things to fix it:

    1. A one world government to avoid conflict.

    2. A new set of blockchain currencies massively taxing wealth instead of labor.

    Until now, implementing this system has been impossible, so there is noone to blame. But it is dead important to switch ASAP.

  15. #1325
    Mursenary: You don't really get it do you? Everything is capitalism. Capitalism, or money is the tool used for selfish reasons.

    What you define as a conspiracy, or investigative work is just different ways of fram.

    Every opponent in a discussion can frame the opponents views as a conspiracy.

    I could point to 2 or 3 things in your last post alone here as say these are nothing but conspiracy theories. But again, that is just a way of framing your points in a way to discredit its merits.

    Each side in a discussion always claim the other side has faulty research. And as with wars, with either weapons or pens, history is written by the victors.

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