Kyiv

[FilthyBeaver]

What a dolt. The mistake is yours. If you think pussy isn't subject to inflation just like everything else on the planet you're a fool. If you're too cheap to pay someone what they're asking, especially considering what you're asking them to do with their bodies, you'll never understand this. I'll happily pay more to price people like you out.

Higher prices means more attractive girls actually considering this line of work to make whatever ends they need to meet. That is a good thing, because it drives down the price for an average looking girl.

Go back to Pattaya and get a handful of girls from Issan and that's exactly what you'll have for 1500. I like mine from the northwest, they are considerably more expensive and worth every penny. You won't find them in a shithole like Pattaya.

I have seen this mistake being done time and time again and people still don't get it to this very day. I know some lads that have been visiting Pattaya for 20 years now and every 2-3 years they complain about prices going up and quality going down.

But when they have a 9/10 spinner on top of them they are willing to pay 2-3 k baht for an hour. And then they keep wondering why these girls don't go for the standard rates of 1 k anymore. ITS BECAUSE THEY THINK WITH THEIR WIENERS!

Now we are talking about Kiev obviously. Different market, different prices but same rules apply. You pay a girl 3000 UAH a few times and she will be asking for that amount from future Johns as well. And so the spiral begins, next one will be like "I need to fuck her" and offer 3. 500 and that's how you end up with these ridiculous "Escort" ads that ask for 4 k an hour. Mate most girls you can still easily get for 1. 5 k.

[Argo1990]

Not to sound like a ******* but 3000 for someone I find attractive is inexpensive in my book. I'm so picky that I'll almost pay anything for someone who can make be rise before I see them naked.

I have seen this mistake being done time and time again and people still don't get it to this very day. I know some lads that have been visiting Pattaya for 20 years now and every 2-3 years they complain about prices going up and quality going down.

But when they have a 9/10 spinner on top of them they are willing to pay 2-3 k baht for an hour. And then they keep wondering why these girls don't go for the standard rates of 1 k anymore. ITS BECAUSE THEY THINK WITH THEIR WIENERS!

Now we are talking about Kiev obviously. Different market, different prices but same rules apply. You pay a girl 3000 UAH a few times and she will be asking for that amount from future Johns as well. And so the spiral begins, next one will be like "I need to fuck her" and offer 3. 500 and that's how you end up with these ridiculous "Escort" ads that ask for 4 k an hour. Mate most girls you can still easily get for 1. 5 k.

One might think that the Covid induced economic impact in the Ukraine would lead to REDUCED prices. Well not if you guys overpay like crazy. In 10 years it will be normal to pay these chicks 3 k for a handjob for fucks sake.

[VinDici]

couldn't find any info or number or the new ones. Can you please maybe attached your message or rewrite in short?

I already shared how to find the numbers yourself in a post 3 below your *rolleyes.

Just search on Keksik and any girls with a blatantly fake picture whose phone number is also connected to Telegram, will be an apartment / salon. You will find more than 10 just by doing a few minutes research.

I would only ever share numbers via PM, I don't post such things publically, if you send me a PM, I'll share a couple to get you started.

[TinyHippo]

Not to sound like a ******* but 3000 for someone I find attractive is inexpensive in my book. I'm so picky that I'll almost pay anything for someone who can make be rise before I see them naked.

Yes, I agree. Seems others may disagree, but just wanted to be honest about prices. With that said, Kyiv has gotten really expensive for daily life and mongering. I will check out Dnipro and Kharkiv for the first time soon. Then will decide if this is my last trip to Ukraine. Funny how now Budapest and Prague are the cheaper way to go to. Slavic girls are still my favorite though.

Also, edit your photos with an app. Just takes a few minutes to look five years younger. All the girls are doing it. Why can't we! Not like they will change their mind when they are minutes away from money.

[FilthyBeaver]

Not to sound like a ******* but 3000 for someone I find attractive is inexpensive in my book. I'm so picky that I'll almost pay anything for someone who can make be rise before I see them naked.

I verified my photo on Mamba which made things better. Had a petite 20 yo who was fun, but expensive. 3000 UAH for an hour, but she was super my type. Seems like everyone wants 3000 on there now in Kyiv. Blah.

That said, yes Mamba is mostly a waste of time. 95% of the girls are using filters to change their appearance. Make sure you never give your hotel room or apartment number to a stranger. I was supposed to meet a cute girl yesterday in front of a cafe, but she didn't look like her photos at all. Luckily I was wearing sunglasses and a mask. So, I just kept walking by. Haha I would also suggest using only Telegram because you can hide your phone number. I had a "hobby" phone with my UAH sim and after giving my number out to a few people on Tinder and Mamba I have started to get random messages.

[TinyHippo]

It has been a complete waste of time for me, nevermind the money. Mostly scammers and inactive accounts. In a month I've had conversations with two real people, neither of them were what I'm looking for. I get likes several times a day by either cougars (I'm late 40's so do the math there) or models who have only ever been to one place you've ever actually heard of and Nigeria. I was counting just now and I've been hit on the by the same scammer using the same pictures in 6 different accounts in the last three weeks.

That app is only working for developers.

I verified my photo on Mamba which made things better. Had a petite 20 yo who was fun, but expensive. 3000 UAH for an hour, but she was super my type. Seems like everyone wants 3000 on there now in Kyiv. Blah.

That said, yes Mamba is mostly a waste of time. 95% of the girls are using filters to change their appearance. Make sure you never give your hotel room or apartment number to a stranger. I was supposed to meet a cute girl yesterday in front of a cafe, but she didn't look like her photos at all. Luckily I was wearing sunglasses and a mask. So, I just kept walking by. Haha I would also suggest using only Telegram because you can hide your phone number. I had a "hobby" phone with my UAH sim and after giving my number out to a few people on Tinder and Mamba I have started to get random messages.

[Cahdgui]

There are new Salons around, you'll find them if you follow my instructions below. If you read further in this thread you'll find the answer to your other questions too.

I searched and only found the reason why all salons are closed (police raid.)

But couldn't find any info or number or the new ones. Can you please maybe attached your message or rewrite in short?

Much appreciated!

[VinDici]

What happened that all of the apartments are closed? Appreciate if anyone know.

There are new Salons around, you'll find them if you follow my instructions below. If you read further in this thread you'll find the answer to your other questions too -.

[Cahdgui]

Yes, they are closed, you can read about it further in this thread.

So there are no salons open?

What happened that all of the apartments are closed?

Appreciate if anyone know.

[VinDici]

It's all about your personality, escort girls are humans, they also like interesting people and good attitude.

This is such a basic thing, and it's sad that it needs to be pointed out. I've been doing this a long time, and by treating escorts with mutual respect, I get so much more from bookings. Any escorts that mistake my kindness for weakness, are dismissed very quickly, the others however have developed long standing mutually beneficial relationships.

Since March. When they has lockdown all main salons and their are closed and their numbers are disconnected. Am I wrong? Can anyone confirm that?

Yes, they are closed, you can read about it further in this thread.

Can anyone recommend a good place to find active numbers of apartments or escorts in Kyiv and Kharkiv please, assuming Mamba is a waste of time and money these days?

Just search on Keksik and any girls with a blatantly fake picture whose phone number is also connected to Telegram, will be an apartment / salon. You will find more than 10 just by doing a few minutes research.

[Cahdgui]

Since March. When they has lockdown all main salons and their are closed and their numbers are disconnected. Am I wrong? Can anyone confirm that?

[SexBomb123]

Hi all,

Finally back to Ukraine next week.

Can anyone recommend a good place to find active numbers of apartments or escorts in Kyiv and Kharkiv please, assuming Mamba is a waste of time and money these days?

I found a few by searching on Telegram but there isn't much action, especially in Kharkiv.

Thanks!

[Ivan Buyan]

Wow, crazy prices if it is even real. You pay $20 to access and about $20-30 just to get their number + $150 for the girl!

That said, I just arrived in Kyiv for two weeks. Will see how the mongering goes.

Hey buddy,

Being the loyal customer who gets bonuses from time to time (like secret parties invitations) I may say that OMG girls are totally real but some of them are overpriced and definitely not worth the money. The good thing is paying for the number once you can meet the girl as many times as you want and negotiate on the "discount" later. Some girls are really pro and all they care about is money but for some you can become a good friend and have free sex from time to time. I met one girl on the New Year OMG party, paid her couple times (400 dollar a night + dinner) but after we hang out together with her and her friends in Kyiv and Odesa.

It's all about your personality, escort girls are humans, they also like interesting people and good attitude.

[FilthyBeaver]

Is Mamba dead? I messaged a lot of girls, but only a couple average looking ones replied. Such a time waster as I have a VPN as was messaging girls before I came here. I guess the easy days of Kyiv are over.

It has been a complete waste of time for me, nevermind the money. Mostly scammers and inactive accounts. In a month I've had conversations with two real people, neither of them were what I'm looking for. I get likes several times a day by either cougars (I'm late 40's so do the math there) or models who have only ever been to one place you've ever actually heard of and Nigeria. I was counting just now and I've been hit on the by the same scammer using the same pictures in 6 different accounts in the last three weeks.

That app is only working for developers.

[TinyHippo]

Is Mamba dead? I messaged a lot of girls, but only a couple average looking ones replied. Such a time waster as I have a VPN as was messaging girls before I came here. I guess the easy days of Kyiv are over.