Stupid shit in Medellin

[The Cane]

Did they get vaxxed with sewer water? Aka Sinovax ROTFLMMFAO.

Speaking of sewer water, if there's anybody here who thinks getting vaccinated is 100% protection from getting sick, here's what I want them to do. First, get a cholera shot, or maybe you already have one. Then next, go to some poor, underdeveloped country in say Africa or somewhere in Asia. And then, start drinking from the same rivers, ditches, and holes that they drink from. And let's see what happens. Don't tell me that having the cholera vaccine means you absolutely can't get it! I know better. The risk is still there. Same with other diseases. I just got vaccinated against shingles, and they out and out tell you that there is no guarantee that you won't get shingles. And in the unlikely event that you do get it, then the vaccine will help you fight it and get through it. That's how vaccines work. They aren't guaranteed shields against contracting a disease, but they offer an awful lot of protection, and make it far less likely that you will get sick. But if you do, then thank your lucky stars you got that shot! Because, it could save your life (or that of somebody you love).

[Villainy]

That's not how any vaccine, has ever worked. TB, smallpox, cholera, polio, yellow fever. You can't get these diseases, and spread them, if you're vaccinated.

The cdc literally changed the definition of vaccines and herd immunity in 2020. This is a fact.

The covid shot isn't a vaccine, it's a treatment like the flu shot to prevent harsher symptoms. The same way a flu shot doesn't prevent you from getting it or spreading it.

This is why there wasnt a spanish flu vaccine and why there has never been one for respiratory viruses, they naturally mutate too fast to have any "vaccine".

I am vaxxed but against mandates as they are an obvious govt power grab pushed forward by manipulating emotional and illogical peoples' heart strings like yourself.

you shouldnt care if anyone is unvaccinated or "anti-vaxx". Wake up.

Have you ever taken a science class? How do you think vaccines are developed? You think that one day some scientist says "Eureka" I know the answer and puts together some chemicals and / or bio agents and voila! The world now has a vaccine that works perfectly and no one ever gets the disease again? That is a fair interpretation of what your post suggests.

The reality is that the disease is studied and a vaccine is eventually developed as a result of that research. It is tested and retested, side effects and efficacy are measured. Over time the vaccine results are studied and the vaccine is revised and revised and revised until eventually it is nearly perfect. So you object to calling the "CoVid vaccine" a vaccine because it isn't perfect yet? Sorry man, you need to get a refund from the Elvis School of Science Fiction and enter the real world.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Not true. I have been around vaccines my entire life and have received every single one of those inoculations you mentioned (and then some) before going abroad, and I know what kind of protections they gave me. Vaccines offer some damn good protection. That's why people should get vaxxed (thanks for making the case), but they don't make one impervious to illness. And what did I say? I said to get infected after vaccination would be the exception versus the rule. Which means that it would be quite rare in most circumstances. Chill out Johnny Walker. Have a drink!

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ye...02/id/1047066/

In the Netherlands, health authorities called for pre-flight COVID-19 tests for all travel from outside the European Union, after it turned out that most of the passengers who tested positive after arriving on two flights from South Africa on Nov. 26 had been vaccinated.

Did they get vaxxed with sewer water? Aka Sinovax ROTFLMMFAO.

[Villainy]

"It is much usually much harder to get people to do the right thing / the social responsible thing rather than the selfish thing. " - Villainy.

"It is usually much harder to get people to do the right thing / the socially responsible thing as opposed to the selfish thing. " - Villainy.

[The Cane]

That's not how any vaccine, has ever worked. TB, smallpox, cholera, polio, yellow fever. You can't get these diseases, and spread them, if you're vaccinated.

Not true. I have been around vaccines my entire life and have received every single one of those inoculations you mentioned (and then some) before going abroad, and I know what kind of protections they gave me. Vaccines offer some damn good protection. That's why people should get vaxxed (thanks for making the case), but they don't make one impervious to illness. And what did I say? I said to get infected after vaccination would be the exception versus the rule. Which means that it would be quite rare in most circumstances. Chill out Johnny Walker. Have a drink!

[JohnnyWalker55]

I get tired of saying it, but no vaccine guarantees you from not getting the thing it's supposed to protect you from. That's not how any vaccine works. Vaccines can protect you from getting a particular illness, but there is always the chance of a break-through case. And when that happens, what the vaccine does is prevent the illness from being so virulent that it kills you. That's how all vaccines work. But of course, you can talk to people until you're blue in the face. They will just believe what they want to believe, and say stupid stuff like why should I get vaccinated when I'm not sick (slapping forehead)? The point of getting vaccinated is to protect you from getting sick at all, and if in the event you still do get sick (the exception and not the rule), then the thing won't be so virulent that it takes your life. It's undisputed that most of the folks who have been dying now are the unvaccinated. I have seen some of them on TV lying in their death beds. Wishing they had gotten vaccinated, and pleading with others to do so before it's too late. Yep. COVID isn't so bad. That is, until it kills you or somebody you care about.

That's not how any vaccine, has ever worked. TB, smallpox, cholera, polio, yellow fever. You can't get these diseases, and spread them, if you're vaccinated.

The cdc literally changed the definition of vaccines and herd immunity in 2020. This is a fact.

The covid shot isn't a vaccine, it's a treatment like the flu shot to prevent harsher symptoms. The same way a flu shot doesn't prevent you from getting it or spreading it.

This is why there wasnt a spanish flu vaccine and why there has never been one for respiratory viruses, they naturally mutate too fast to have any "vaccine".

I am vaxxed but against mandates as they are an obvious govt power grab pushed forward by manipulating emotional and illogical peoples' heart strings like yourself.

you shouldnt care if anyone is unvaccinated or "anti-vaxx". Wake up.

[Villainy]

Not sure which of these is most appropraite.

"It is always a much easier task to educate uneducated people than to re-educate the mis-educated. " - Herbert M. Shelton.

"The American people are free to do exactly what they are told. " - Ward Churchill.

"It is much usually much harder to get people to do the right thing / the social responsible thing rather than the selfish thing. " - Villainy.

[Huacho]

Still nobody explains why the importance is put on having the vaccine instead of having the disease.

Sigh. Okay, I know you went to Golden Gate so I will try to keep it real simple. Asymptomatic transmission. You only think you don't have the disease. You are not sure. So, you're running around unvaccinated and not sure if you have the disease or not. Yes, vaccinated people can get the disease but it is less likely that they will. And, if they do, it is less likely they will be contagious.

Again, to review, currently the vast majority of people hospitalized with COVID are unvaccinated. The vast majority who are dying are unvaccinated. The rates of infection, symptoms, hospitalization, and death are all not just lower but much lower in the vaccinated population.

So now I have explained it to you. But, you're a proven selfish asshole and genuinely do not care. I really hope you get busted with your fake vax card.

[Huacho]

"It is always a much easier task to educate uneducated people than to re-educate the mis-educated. " - Herbert M. Shelton.

Another impressive source. A fake doctor, arrested and jailed multiple times for practicing medicine without a license, and starving people to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_M._Shelton

[Elvis 2008]

So I am walking around selfish with no card and no covid, while he is allowed to go around selfless with a card and covid. He is a sick man praised and given the red carpet, while I am a healthy man shunned and told to get in the back of the bus. Make that make sense please..

Sure, I will explain it. The Democratic douches put out that they care more about human life than Republicans. They then embraced the "scientists", and they have a relationship with the "scientists" where they look out for each other. So the "scientists" and the point and hate Dems point a finger at you and say, "he does not care about human life, and you should hate him" and they do.

The way you trap the douches is get them to reveal what the data should be. No one gets what it means when a vaccine is 95% effective so you have to define what that means and then get them to define what success is. When they cannot define that, you know you have won.

The Democratic douches do not care about what is right. They tell you what is right and then squeeze the data in to fit their beliefs. So they will blather on about how shitty the red states are and then have no answer for why Europe has cases surging right now. That is not "science" which is proving a theory but faith based religion.

So in 2021, the vaccine is rolled out and the number of worldwide cases doubled. Now can you imagine if they were cut in half? We would be hearing non stop how fucking great the vaccine is. So the vaccine is rolled out and cases double and that cannot be the fault of the vaccine? Why? Why can the vaccine only be good and not bad? Because the "scientists" say so?

So the vaccine data says you should NOT get the vaccine. It seems to me that the vaccinated are like JJ and spreading it around to other people particularly the unvaccinated.

60% of the USA is vaccinated. Other countries have more. What is success? What % reduction should there be if 60 or 80% of a population is vaccinated? If the "scientists" will not do that and all they can do is point a finger at the unvaccinated and say, "Vaccines would work if they got vaccinated", which is what they are doing, you know and I know they are full of shit. We know now that even if a country is 100% vaccinated, the virus will still spread.

So I would just ignore those who are trying to demonize you. They are just pointing a finger at you because they do not have the answer while proclaiming to the world that they do, So giving vaccines to everyone and vaccine mandates have already been proven not to work. The demonizing of the unvaccinated should stop, and it would but "scientists" would have to admit they made a mistake, and they never do.

The only thing certain about the virus data in 2022 is that like in 2021 the Democratic douches and their "science" buddies will declare victory no matter what the data shows.

[Huacho]

"The American people are free to do exactly what they are told. " - Ward Churchill.

Ward Churchill, disgraced former University of Colorado professor, was fired for lying about being Native American and for multiple incidents of plagiarism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill

[MarquisdeSade1]

You steal photos from blogs. You dodge and deflect when asked to prove you've Mongered in places you claim by showing stamps on your passport. You claim to have met several ISG mongers, yet nobody can confirm. Who are you fooling? Lolol.

Is that the best you can do? Make shit up like JJqusiamodo LMAO.

Like I'm going to show a self proclaimed obsessed anal wart licker my passport LMAO?

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/01/t...izing-america/

He look, it looks just like Market St. 24/7/365.

[The Cane]

Not sure which of these is most appropraite.

"It is always a much easier task to educate uneducated people than to re-educate the mis-educated. " - Herbert M. Shelton.

"The American people are free to do exactly what they are told. " - Ward Churchill.

Americans doing as they are told? Apparently not since 40% of Americans still aren't fully vaccinated. I guess whether or not you're doing as you're told depends on who you're listening to. I happen to be an extremely well-informed, well-educated person who takes my counsel from other well-informed, well-educated persons in their respective fields. And by the way in Mr. E's example, just because somebody else is doing something wrong doesn't mean that you too should go and do something wrong yourself. One still has a choice to make about doing the right thing or choosing to act fraudulently yourself. You know the saying. Two wrongs don't make a right!

[The Cane]

Still nobody explains why the importance is put on having the vaccine instead of having the disease. Everybody knows that Jj got the vaccine and thereafter got the disease. Say if instead of leaving Colombia and going to the USA, he left Colombia and went to Peru. I have not gotten the vaccine, and I have not gotten covid. Yet, to enter Peru on the same plane as Jj, I would bave had to show a test saying that I was negative, while he could have waltzed in with full blown covid by showing only his card.

So I am walking around selfish with no card and no covid, while he is allowed to go around selfless with a card and covid. He is a sick man praised and given the red carpet, while I am a healthy man shunned and told to get in the back of the bus. Make that make sense please.

In order to make sense, proof of vaccination (or proof of recovery from infection) and a recent negative test should be required. I understand that this is what they're doing in Germany at the moment (they call it 2 G), and to fly back to the States you have to be tested too (even citizens).

[JustTK]

Still nobody explains why the importance is put on having the vaccine instead of having the disease. He is a sick man praised and given the red carpet, while I am a healthy man shunned and told to get in the back of the bus. Make that make sense please.

Not sure which of these is most appropraite.

"It is always a much easier task to educate uneducated people than to re-educate the mis-educated. " - Herbert M. Shelton.

"The American people are free to do exactly what they are told. " - Ward Churchill.