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09-05-21 23:06 #14421
Posts: 314Originally Posted by Goferring [View Original Post]
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09-05-21 07:20 #14420
Posts: 499Originally Posted by WestCoast1 [View Original Post]
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09-05-21 01:06 #14419
Posts: 6843Its a bit muddy. Maybe
Originally Posted by FuriousGeorge [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]
Filipinos yes. Foreigners if they are: 1) The spouse or parent of a Filipino; 2) Dual citizen; 3) Foreign government worker (possible Embassy staff, or NGO, and just guessing); 4) Seafarers with 9 (c) visa; 5) Those with eligible certificates, RC or CRPC (unclear to me what those are); 6) Those with eligible visas (seems unclear what that is); 7) Investors with special authority (unclear again).
#6 above, eligible visas. It does mention the 9 (a) visa. I think that is the normal Embassy-granted, 59-day, pre-arrival visa? It does mention having to follow IATF rules:
Conditions of the IATF-EID:
Must have a valid and existing visa at the time of entry unless otherwise stated in the table above.
With pre-booked accredited quarantine facility / hotel for at least 10 days at the traveler's expense*.
Must undergo RT-PCR testing on the 7th day of quarantine. Non-OFWs and non-Filipinos on PAL flights arriving in Manila will be swabbed by Detoxicare Molecular Diagnostics Laboratory for arrivals in NAIA Terminal 2, or by the Philippine Airport Diagnostics Laboratory for arrivals in NAIA Terminal 1. Those arriving in Laoag will be swabbed by Mariano Marcos Memorial Hospital and Medical Center. *.
*For fully vaccinated travelers, whether in the Philippines or abroad, stayed exclusively in Green list countries / jursidictions / territories in the last fourteen (14) days prior to arrival in the Philippines, may only hold a 7-night confirmed booking on a facility-based quarantine and shall undergo an RT-PCR test on the 5th day of their quarantine stay. The vaccination status must be independently verified / confirmed by Philippine authorities as valid and authentic upon the traveler's arrival in the country.
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09-04-21 16:31 #14418
Posts: 3263Originally Posted by FuriousGeorge [View Original Post]
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09-04-21 15:37 #14417
Posts: 1056Philippine Airways Files for Bankruptcy
https://www.philstar.com/business/20...P55fNshDDJSRF4
I am surprised so few airlines have gone belly up. Anyway, this is just another nail into the mongering coffin.
I see no hope of banging LBFMs there for a long time (when I will definitely be past it). The first white trash to return would be the Ossies who have draconian lock down measures. Allowing Koreans have the keys to the candy store would lead to other issues when Covid outbreaks occur.
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09-04-21 10:26 #14416
Posts: 248It kind of seems like we can go back after Sept 5th if we are vaccinated. Am I wrong? That would be fantastic.
Originally Posted by BrizLad [View Original Post]
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09-04-21 02:32 #14415
Posts: 6843Article regarding chances of contracting Covid after vaccination.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/brea...t_ufn_20210904
From the article:
Dr. Balters team has recently collected surveillance data that give us a clearer picture of the difference in risk to the vaccinated and unvaccinated as the Delta variant surged from May 1 through July 25. They studied infections in 10,895 fully vaccinated people and 30,801 unvaccinated people. The data showed that:
The rate of infection in unvaccinated people is five times the rate of infection in vaccinated people. By the end of the study period, the age-adjusted incidence of Covid-19 among unvaccinated persons was 315.1 per 100,000 people over a seven-day period compared to 63.8 per 100,000 incidence rate among fully vaccinated people. (Age adjustment is a statistical method used so the data are representative of the general population.)
The rate of hospitalization among the vaccinated was 1 per 100,000 people. The age-adjusted hospitalization rate in unvaccinated persons was 29.4 per 100,000.
Older vaccinated people were most vulnerable to serious illness after a breakthrough infection. The median age of vaccinated people who were hospitalized for Covid was 64 years. Among unvaccinated people who were hospitalized, the median age was 49.
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From the same article, referencing this study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1261295v1.full
Regarding whether vaxxed persons can transmit to others (using viral load as indicator; Delta only):
Another study from Singapore looked at vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected with the Delta variant. The researchers found that while viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated workers are similar at the onset of illness, the amount of virus declines more rapidly in the vaccinated after the first week, suggesting vaccinated people are infectious for a shorter period of time.
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09-04-21 01:04 #14414
Posts: 3407Originally Posted by BrizLad [View Original Post]
Have a look at the decimated cruise industry after numerous onboard outbreaks.
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09-03-21 23:19 #14413
Posts: 314Originally Posted by DickBump [View Original Post]
Because you have a choice on your next entry to RP. You do want to go back to punter heaven and start enjoying some pinay action?
RP will for sure have entry requirements. You can get a taste already here https://www.philippineairlines.com/e...xForTravelToPH.
There will be the bunch of unvaccinated horny guys at some immigration counter being denied entry and arguing the toss. You can join them and argue your case there.
And it's only going to get harder for the unvaccinated as governments see this as a big stick approach. (once again, please reserve your arguments for the RP immigration counter.).
How motivating is the thought of unli 21 yo filipina available for 24 x 7 BBBJ with CIM, CIP & CIA?
Free jab v Pussy holiday. I'm already vaccinated and eagerly checking the travel pages daily.
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09-03-21 22:01 #14412
Posts: 41The Rose. Having already had Covid why would I even entertain getting the jab, which doesn't stop one from contracting or spreading the pizza virus.
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09-02-21 06:40 #14411
Posts: 59Oh the Humanity
I work in direct health care in a large metropolitan hospital. We strive to save people's lives and discharge them in better health than when they entered. Some Covids come into the ICU and when they get better they are transferred to a regular care unit for the rest of their recuperation. For others the order is reversed and from the ICU their fate is the cold and lonely hospital morgue.
Lately we have become beleaguered by a spike in new Covid cases. A small anecdote explains the terrible situation. A guy runs away from a dog who is attacking him. He falls and sustains a head injury. He comes to the ER and placed on a stretcher awaiting treatment for his injuries. He is awake and alert.
However the ER is clogged by scores of individuals with the newly surging Covid. None of them had been vaccinated. The fellow with the head injury dutifully waits his turn. His mother notes that he is no longer awake and believes that he is sleeping. 4 hours later he is seen by the staff and we realize he is now comatose.
Now the hospital did nothing wrong. When assessing the walk-in patients the triage nurse correctly determined that the critically ill Covid patients had more immediate need than others. Perhaps they were at death's door.
In any event one cannot help the temptation to cast some blame on those unvaccinated infidels. Yet that is not our province to make moral judgements.
One of the hallmarks of our civilization is that we care for others, even jailed murderers and mongers.
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09-01-21 11:04 #14410
Posts: 6843Somebody check my math
Originally Posted by Locamotive [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Goferring [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Locamotive [View Original Post]
Added weight for this. I was reading an article last week with those stats, I wish I'd saved the link, ABS-CBN I think. They were running down the changes from ECQ to MECQ. The end of the article said that the IATF, the government's medical / science crew that makes recommendations on lockdown severity, has realized that the recent ECQ lockdown did not see the previous drops in covid cases. Cases went up even with a stricter curfew, alcohol bans, quarantine passes, etc. The IATF would like to recommend a different strategy, but the article didn't point out that new strategy (I am guessing there is no other strategy).
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09-01-21 04:20 #14409
Posts: 3407Originally Posted by Locamotive [View Original Post]
Unfortunately, your comparison to MVAs is not too applicable as a crashed car doesn't ricochet off and cause 3 other accidents. It's the exponential growth that has the authorities worried and why draconian remedies are being put in place. Look at how many areas went from few to thousands of cases in the blink of an eye. The biggest concern is if the disease spreads so much that it over runs limited heath services and then the sick can't even be treated and any form of control then falls apart: reports of India and Indonesia running out of oxygen, and PI running out of nurses.
Hopefully, we don't get too many mutations, vaccines limit the spread so that those that are sick can be treated before they infect others, reasonable controls can be put in place and be effective, and then the gates to Nirvana can reopen.
Fuckk I need a holiday. 😁.
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09-01-21 01:04 #14408
Posts: 162Originally Posted by WestCoast1 [View Original Post]
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08-31-21 14:42 #14407
Posts: 1290Originally Posted by WestCoast1 [View Original Post]